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“This genuinely could kill somebody”: Viral video of overenthusiastic Tour de France fan being pushed off mountain for running next to cyclists sparks debate online; Would you pay £1,000 for a pair of aero socks?; Election reaction + more on the live blog

Morning one and all, welcome to the Friday live blog where Dan Alexander will have all the election reaction, Tour de France updates, news and more
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Jul 05, 2024 08:18
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  • Would you pay £1,000 for a pair of aero socks? Mark Cavendish's 'Project 35' Nopinz socks available online
  • On your bike! Numerous Conservative politicians who have made questionable cycling claims lose their seats
  • Do you have these cycling essentials? 10 things we think every budding cyclist needs
  • "I'm glad Mathieu eats a greasy hamburger every now and then": Adrie van der Poel concerned by "really not healthy" dieting in pro cycling
  • Cav's Astana teammate fined for stopping to watch record-breaking win on roadside screen
  • "A TV camera is there to capture images and not to influence the race": Mark Cavendish blasts Tour de France motorbike rider for putting him "out the back" after mechanical, as record-breaking sprinter fined for drafting behind team car
  • Hooked vs hookless wheels at the Tour de France — which rims are the pro peloton hooked on in 2024?
  • TT day at the Tour
  • Got the nose (and wallet) to sniff out a Tour de France stage win? Dylan Groenewegen’s bizarre Scicon Batman aero ‘beak’ finally available to buy… for just £300 – but why was it banned in the first place?
  • When your entire village comes out to watch you at the Tour
  • Remco Evenepoel wins Tour de France time trial by 12 seconds, as Tadej Pogačar takes time on Jonas Vingegaard and Primož Roglič
  • Mark Cavendish makes history, Dylan Groenewegen's bizarre (and stage-winning) aero beak, and the weirdest things we’ve ever seen at the Tour de France
  • Time trial porn — Remco edition
  • "This genuinely could kill somebody": Viral video of overenthusiastic Tour de France fan being pushed off mountain for running next to cyclists sparks debate online
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5 July 2024, 08:18

Would you pay £1,000 for a pair of aero socks? Mark Cavendish's 'Project 35' Nopinz socks available online

It’s been the Tour of expensive aero tech. Dylan Groenewegen got his nose in front to take yesterday’s sprint wearing his ‘aero beak’, an attachment that Scicon has now made available online, priced at £300 for UK buyers. Don’t all rush at once…

Dylan Groenewegen's aero beak, 2024 Tour de France stage three (Eurosport)
Dylan Groenewegen's aero beak, 2024 Tour de France stage three (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dylan Groenewegen's aero beak, 2024 Tour de France stage three (Eurosport)
Dylan Groenewegen's aero beak, 2024 Tour de France stage three (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Well, once you’ve got that you can head over to aero clothing specialists Nopinz who are selling the socks Mark Cavendish has been seen in during this Tour de France. That’s if you’ve got a spare £999.99 down the back of the sofa.

NoPinz aero socks
NoPinz aero socks (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
NoPinz aero socks
NoPinz aero socks (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Named P35, a reference to Project 35 and Cavendish’s hunt for the outright Tour stage wins record, they are, Nopinz says: “Designed by champions for champions. These exceptional socks are crafted for a groundbreaking project, offering unparalleled performance and comfort. Elevate your ride with the perfect blend of innovation and excellence.”

Unfortunately for the brand, Cav’s history-making win on Wednesday was achieved in a pair of the team’s standard-issue socks, the Manx Missile changing back having been spotted rocking the extra aero ones earlier in the week.

Mark Cavendish at 2024 Tour de France
Mark Cavendish at 2024 Tour de France (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Cavendish at 2024 Tour de France
Mark Cavendish at 2024 Tour de France (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Nopinz aero socks
Nopinz aero socks (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Nopinz aero socks
Nopinz aero socks (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

If you sign up to Nopinz’s mailing list you’ll get five per cent your order and can very truthfully tell that significant other you got £50 off. Or just buy an entire bike, or a set of wheels, or a top of the range turbo trainer, or a different cycling outfit for every day of the week, or a holiday, or you know, anything you want that costs almost £1,000. 

5 July 2024, 08:18

On your bike! Numerous Conservative politicians who have made questionable cycling claims lose their seats

Polling Station (Flickr Creative Commons - Simon Clayson)
Polling Station (Flickr Creative Commons - Simon Clayson) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Polling Station (Flickr Creative Commons - Simon Clayson)
Polling Station (Flickr Creative Commons – Simon Clayson) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Let’s face it, despite relentless culture war noise around cycling in recent times, cycling and active travel were never prominent during the election campaign. With that said, it would be remiss of this live blogger to miss the opportunity to dig deep into the road.cc archives and pick out some of the politicians we’ve reported on during the last four-and-a-half years and see how they got on.

It’s our (at times tenuous) cycling election round-up. We’ll start with the most recent Transport Secretary.

Mark Harper (Conservative) LOST

Mark Harper (Parliament)
Mark Harper (Parliament) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Harper (Parliament)
Mark Harper (Parliament) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The final Tory Transport Secretary lost his Forest of Dean seat to Labour (you’ll be hearing more of that) in one of the tightest results of the night. Harper’s majority from 2019 had been more than 15,000, but in a disastrous night for the former minister for transport, a huge swing to Labour, plus Reform taking 17 per cent of the vote, saw him lose his seat in Parliament by just 278 votes.

> “For most people, the most important mode of transport remains the car, the van, the lorry, the motorbike”: Transport Secretary Mark Harper says the Conservative party is “proudly pro-car”, as Chris Boardman admits concerns

In more recent times, as one of his last acts in the role, Harper agreed to a proposal to introduce tougher laws for “dangerous cyclists” who kill or injure, as he said “it’s only right tiny minority who recklessly disregard others face full weight of the law”. That legislation was not passed in time, due to Rishi Sunak calling the election, although during the campaign Labour pledged to introduce it in the next Parliament.

Grant Shapps (Conservative) LOST

Grant Shapps TV interview (public domain)
Grant Shapps TV interview (public domain) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Grant Shapps TV interview (public domain)
Grant Shapps TV interview (public domain) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Where do you start with Grant Shapps? Another former Transport Secretary, Shapps’ time was, from the viewpoint of a cycling website’s interests, defined by that mad week in August 2022 when he proposed number plates, insurance and speed limits for cyclists… before making a rather quick U-turn. Shapps lost his Hertfordshire constituency of Welwyn Hatfield to Labour after his share of the vote plummeted 19 per cent.

Jacob Rees-Mogg (Conservative) LOST

Jacob Rees-Mogg and Keynsham High Street cycle lane
Jacob Rees-Mogg (left) and Keynsham High Street cycle lane (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Jacob Rees-Mogg and Keynsham High Street cycle lane
Jacob Rees-Mogg (left) and Keynsham High Street cycle lane (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

North East Somerset and Hanham also went to Labour, Jacob Rees-Mogg presumably already banging on the GB News studio doors shouting to be let in. We’ve had less involvement with Rees-Mogg than others, although his opposition to a bike lane in Keynsham and use of an “extremely offensive racist term” while talking about “lunatic” cycle lane plans earned him some road.cc time.

Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative) WON

Sir Iain Duncan Smith
Sir Iain Duncan Smith (Image Credit: Parliamentary portrait)
Sir Iain Duncan Smith
Sir Iain Duncan Smith (Image Credit: Parliamentary portrait)

The former Conservative leader spearheaded the campaign to introduce the aforementioned new ‘dangerous cycling’ laws. Iain Duncan Smith kept his Chingford and Woodford Green seat, in part due to the opposition vote being split between the former Labour candidate Faiza Shaheen (who was replaced and subsequently ran as an independent) and the then-instated Labour candidate Shama Tatler.

Philip Davies (Conservative) LOST

Philip Davies (Parliament portrait)
Philip Davies (Parliament portrait) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Philip Davies (Parliament portrait)
Philip Davies (Parliament portrait) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

During the campaign we heard from a reader who accused Davies of “massive prejudice against cyclists” after “angry email rant” to constituent who questioned his “contradictory” road safety views and number plates for cyclists stance. That was the least of Davies’ problems when it transpired he was one of those who’d been down the bookies to bet £8,000 on the election date. It’s always the ones you least expect. Anyway, Davies will presumably be joining Rees-Mogg down the GB News job centre having also lost his seat last night.

Nick Fletcher (Conservative) LOST

Cyclist next to an LTN planter, Hackney, London
Cyclist next to an LTN planter (Image Credit: Adwitiya Pal)
Cyclist next to an LTN planter, Hackney, London
Cyclist next to an LTN planter (Image Credit: Adwitiya Pal)

The Conservative former MP who was criticised for touting a known 15-minute city conspiracy in Parliament, and who later claimed cycling routes have turned his city into a “ghost town”, lost his Doncaster East and the Isle of Axholme seat to Labour last night.

Thérèse Coffey (Conservative) LOST

Thérèse Coffey calls active travel project "anti-driver" (Active Travel Woodbridge/Parliament portrait)
Parliament portrait) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Thérèse Coffey calls active travel project "anti-driver" (Active Travel Woodbridge/Parliament portrait)
Parliament portrait) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Thérèse Coffey, the Conservative politician who for a brief period during the autumn of 2022 served as health secretary during Liz Truss’ stint as prime minister, lashed out at an active travel project in her Suffolk constituency, claiming that it is “anti-driver”. Last night, Coffey lost her Suffolk Coastal seat to Labour, her share of the vote down a third on 2019.

Nigel Farage (Reform) WON

Farage screenshot from YouTube
Farage screenshot from YouTube (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Farage screenshot from YouTube
Farage screenshot from YouTube (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

During his years of opportunistically jumping from issue to issue, Farage has unsurprisingly had a pop at cycling a couple of times, perhaps most famously in 2021 during a rant about “insane” cycle lanes. And no, you probably don’t need me to tell you in this case “insane” isn’t a positive adjective…

> Nigel Farage forges new career as anti-cycling bingo caller

Louise Haigh (Labour) WON

Labour shadow secretary for transport Louise Haigh riding a bike
Labour shadow secretary for transport Louise Haigh riding a bike (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Labour shadow secretary for transport Louise Haigh riding a bike
Labour shadow secretary for transport Louise Haigh riding a bike (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The shadow transport secretary easily kept her seat in Sheffield, so we’re assuming Louise Haigh will be the next head of transport now her party is in government. In November, concerns were expressed after Haigh began to outline her stance on active travel policies, 20mph speed limits and low-traffic neighbourhoods.

> Labour’s shadow secretary for transport rides a bike and offers support for cycling infrastructure… gets accused of photo-op (and for riding without helmet)

However, she later insisted that active travel is “essential for economic growth” and “every pound invested delivers a huge return in benefits”. She also said comments about Sheffield being too hilly to cycle in were a “light-hearted joke”.

And finally, anyone know how this guy got on last night? At least he’ll have a driver taking him everywhere from now on…

Sir Keir Starmer official portrait
Sir Keir Starmer official portrait (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Sir Keir Starmer official portrait
Sir Keir Starmer official portrait (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Sir Keir Starmer was ‘making U-turn’ when he hit cyclist, says witness

5 July 2024, 08:18

Do you have these cycling essentials? 10 things we think every budding cyclist needs

I know what you’re all itching to know: ‘Does the aero beak make the cut???’ 

> Do you have these cycling essentials? 10 things we think every budding cyclist needs

5 July 2024, 08:18

"I'm glad Mathieu eats a greasy hamburger every now and then": Adrie van der Poel concerned by "really not healthy" dieting in pro cycling

Mathieu van der Poel at the Tour de France 2024 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mathieu van der Poel at the Tour de France 2024 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Mathieu van der Poel’s father Adrie has spoken out about “really not healthy” dieting in pro cycling and admitted he is “glad Mathieu eats a greasy hamburger every now and then”.

Speaking to Wieler Revue, he said: “In the past, almost all female cyclists had anorexia and when I look at today’s cyclists, I almost get scared when I see them walking. They are already so thin and all the food has to be weighed. I am glad that Mathieu eats a greasy hamburger every now and then and that he doesn’t care about that nutrition app. When I look at the Tour, I see cyclists of 1.80 meters with a weight of 60 kilograms. That is really not healthy.”

That’s the approach to nutrition I take too, Adrie, you know, it’s all about avoiding being “really not healthy” so you’ve just got to keep scranning those hamburgers, right?

Retired pro Nathan van Hooydonck responded to Adrie’s comments, suggesting that Mathieu is lucky to be able to eat a hamburger as, “If other riders do that, they are no longer competing to win.”

“Mathieu can go eat a hamburger because he is exceptionally talented. If other riders do that, they are no longer competing to win. You race to win and to get the best out of yourself, don’t you?”

5 July 2024, 08:18

Cav's Astana teammate fined for stopping to watch record-breaking win on roadside screen

One of the more bizarre stories to come out of the Tour so far…

Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5
Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5 (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5
Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5 (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Italian website Tuttobici reports that Davide Ballerini, Mark Cavendish’s Astana Qazaqstan teammate, was fined 200 Swiss francs for behaviour contrary to the image of cycling on the day the Manx Missile broke the stage wins record.

Why? Well, he stopped by the roadside during the finale to watch the sprint on a giant screen. How dare you, Davide. 

5 July 2024, 08:18

"A TV camera is there to capture images and not to influence the race": Mark Cavendish blasts Tour de France motorbike rider for putting him "out the back" after mechanical, as record-breaking sprinter fined for drafting behind team car

Mark Cavendish drafts behind race organisers car during stage six, 2024 Tour de France (Eurosport)
Mark Cavendish drafts behind race organisers car during stage six, 2024 Tour de France (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Cavendish drafts behind race organisers car during stage six, 2024 Tour de France (Eurosport)
Mark Cavendish drafts behind race organisers car during stage six, 2024 Tour de France (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “A TV camera is there to capture images and not to influence the race”: Mark Cavendish blasts Tour de France motorbike rider for putting him “out the back” after mechanical, as record-breaking sprinter fined for drafting behind team car

5 July 2024, 08:18

Hooked vs hookless wheels at the Tour de France — which rims are the pro peloton hooked on in 2024?

Hooked vs hookless wheels at the Tour de France July 2024
Hooked vs hookless wheels at the Tour de France July 2024 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Hooked vs hookless wheels at the Tour de France July 2024
Hooked vs hookless wheels at the Tour de France July 2024 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Hooked vs hookless wheels at the Tour de France — which rims are the pro peloton hooked on in 2024?

5 July 2024, 08:18

TT day at the Tour

What a load of part timers. Only 25km on the menu at the Tour de France today…

Tour de France 2024 stage seven
Tour de France 2024 stage seven (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France 2024 stage seven
Tour de France 2024 stage seven (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A huge day in the GC fight. Can Jonas Vingegaard take back time on Tadej Pogačar? How will Remco Evenepoel go? Or will the Slovenian superstar extend his lead? All to play for this afternoon. Pogačar is the last rider off the start ramp at 4pm UK time. 

5 July 2024, 08:18

Got the nose (and wallet) to sniff out a Tour de France stage win? Dylan Groenewegen’s bizarre Scicon Batman aero ‘beak’ finally available to buy… for just £300 – but why was it banned in the first place?

Dylan Groenewegen Scicon nose cover available to buy
Dylan Groenewegen Scicon nose cover available to buy (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dylan Groenewegen Scicon nose cover available to buy
Dylan Groenewegen Scicon nose cover available to buy (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Got the nose (and wallet) to sniff out a Tour de France stage win? Dylan Groenewegen’s bizarre Scicon Batman aero ‘beak’ finally available to buy… for just £300 – but why was it banned in the first place?

5 July 2024, 08:18

When your entire village comes out to watch you at the Tour

Everyone’s on the road (or finished) now, Victor Campenaerts’ current fastest time about to come under siege from the big hitters. Here are some of the more notable things to happen so far although, let’s face it, TT days are rarely that riveting. Poor Stefan Küng had some mechanical bad luck…

😫 Terrible for @stefankueng. The Swiss champion has a mechanical issue that’s costing him time!

😫 Terrible pour @stefankueng. Il est victime d’un ennui mécanique qui lui coûte du temps !#TDF2024 pic.twitter.com/hvbgJ4UXRk

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 5, 2024

Meanwhile, Julien Bernard was living the dream, his entire village out on the climb to welcome him…

All the love for Julien Bernard 🥰@lidltrek #TDF2024 pic.twitter.com/b34LEYwgJN

— Eurosport (@eurosport) July 5, 2024

5 July 2024, 08:18

Remco Evenepoel wins Tour de France time trial by 12 seconds, as Tadej Pogačar takes time on Jonas Vingegaard and Primož Roglič

In the end just four riders could beat Victor Campenaerts’ time — Jonas Vingegaard, Primož Roglič, Tadej Pogačar and stage winner Remco Evenepoel. If you’re going to come fifth, that’s not a shabby quartet to lose to. It was clear not long after yellow jersey Pogačar had rolled down the start ramp at 4pm on the dot that the Big Four were going to head the stage standings, the only question over the order.

The TT world champion wins his first Tour stage!

With Tadej Pogačar finishing 12 seconds down, Remco Evenepoel wins stage 7 of the #TDF2024 pic.twitter.com/P2BCJH3Imr

— Eurosport (@eurosport) July 5, 2024

While Vingegaard started hot before appearing to fade, Evenepoel looked bulletproof, the TT world champion bettering Roglič and the Dane’s times and setting a benchmark that even Pogačar could not overhaul.

Hearts sank all over Belgium when Evenepoel signalled for the team car with two kilometres to go, before relief as the mechanical (perhaps chain troubles) was apparently fixed with a slam of the bike. When the yellow jersey crossed the line a winning margin of 12 seconds was confirmed, the Soudal Quick-Step rider cutting the gap to Pogačar. It was an otherwise successful day for UAE Team Emirates’ star, who took time on his compatriot Roglič and great rival Vingegaard.

It all means Pogačar remains in yellow, 33 seconds ahead of Remco, 1’15” up on Vingegaard and 1’36” up on Roglič heading into a weekend involving punchy hills and gravel.

5 July 2024, 08:18

Mark Cavendish makes history, Dylan Groenewegen's bizarre (and stage-winning) aero beak, and the weirdest things we’ve ever seen at the Tour de France

road.cc Podcast episode 81
road (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
road.cc Podcast episode 81
road (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Mark Cavendish makes history, Dylan Groenewegen’s bizarre (and stage-winning) aero beak, and the weirdest things we’ve ever seen at the Tour de France

5 July 2024, 08:18

Time trial porn — Remco edition

For those of us who spent years watching Dan Martin, Nairo Quintana and Domenico Pozzovivo ride TTs… 

Brent
Brent (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Brent
Brent (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Remco Evenepoel Tour de France TT (ITV)
Remco Evenepoel Tour de France TT (ITV) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Remco Evenepoel Tour de France TT (ITV)
Remco Evenepoel Tour de France TT (ITV) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

aero  /ˈɛːrəʊ/ adjective INFORMAL

aerodynamic.
“we softened the lines for a more aero look”
 

5 July 2024, 08:18

"This genuinely could kill somebody": Viral video of overenthusiastic Tour de France fan being pushed off mountain for running next to cyclists sparks debate online

You might have already seen the video doing the rounds on social media, it’s already been viewed nearly three million times on the ‘Cycling out of context’ Twitter account. Apparently filmed earlier this week on the Galibier stage of the Tour de France, it shows the moment an overenthusiastic spectator, you know, one of those ones you see all the time and shake your head at for running up the climbs just inches away from the riders. 

Well, things took a turn…

pic.twitter.com/6bzuXmMZs7

— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 4, 2024

Another spectator clearly not very impressed by the running gives them a nudge, and by nudge I mean — quite a significant shove, so much so the fan is sent tumbling off the mountain. When the camera returns back to the falling fan seconds later it shows they’d dropped even further down the slope. 

And while plenty took pleasure in seeing what they viewed as a moment of mountain justice — a perfect dose of karma for an irritating blight on the sport — the point has also been made that, well, pushing someone off a mountain because you don’t like what they’re doing might not be wholly virtuous either.

Reaction to Tour fan video (Twitter)
Reaction to Tour fan video (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Reaction to Tour fan video (Twitter)
Reaction to Tour fan video (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Idk, the guy is in the same position as the other one was running. Not like he was staying away from the riders himself

— King Arthur 👑🇧🇷 (@crash22crash) July 4, 2024

 Admittedly, sympathy was in the minority on this one…

Reaction to Tour fan video (Twitter)
Reaction to Tour fan video (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Reaction to Tour fan video (Twitter)
Reaction to Tour fan video (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Maybe just leave it to the authorities in future…

Reminds me of Bergen 2017 pic.twitter.com/76wZYDRKd5

— Melhus skatepark 🦐🦈 (@skateparken) July 4, 2024

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Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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33 thoughts on ““This genuinely could kill somebody”: Viral video of overenthusiastic Tour de France fan being pushed off mountain for running next to cyclists sparks debate online; Would you pay £1,000 for a pair of aero socks?; Election reaction + more on the live blog”

  1. Pub bike
    July 5, 2024 at 9:42 am
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    RIP “Plan for drivers”..

    RIP “Plan for drivers”…hopefully.

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    • eburtthebike
      July 5, 2024 at 11:05 am
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      Pub bike wrote:

      RIP “Plan for drivers”…hopefully.

      — Pub bike

      Unlikely: Labour has said the same.

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      • chrisonabike
        July 5, 2024 at 12:24 pm
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        BBC wrote:

        Sir Keir Starmer said Uxbridge and South Ruislip was always “going to be tough – we didn’t take it in 1997 when we had a landslide victory”. He said Ulez was “the reason we didn’t win there yesterday”, saying “we’ve all got to reflect on that, including the mayor”.

        — BBC

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66264893

        Also “the only party on the side of drivers”.

        Maybe not over bike-bashing – but no additional help and being patronised?  Sure.

        At least they’ve said they’ll “Give mayors the power to create unified and integrated transport systems, and to promote active travel networks” – although some places appear to have already set about that!  So it doesn’t exactly promise anything new?  And what you get very much depends on the mayor!

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        • mdavidford
          July 5, 2024 at 1:01 pm
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          Although ‘we need to reflect

          Although ‘we need to reflect on that’ often means ‘this is really difficult but we hope if we ignore it long enough it’ll just go away’.

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          • chrisonabike
            July 5, 2024 at 2:43 pm
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            Maybe.  “the only party on

            Maybe.  “the only party on the side of drivers” probably doesn’t mean “…but we are on the side of cyclists more” though!

            We’ll see.  Now they can do what they like will they keep to “tory-lite” or bring in somet new thinking?  There will be some big issues to deal with – will they find time for a serious look at transport apart from “renationalise the railways” and “how can we get the ‘road tax’ tax back from electric cars”?

            Generally I expect little from the top. Hopefully more local authorities can realise it’s to their advantage to find money and put it into cycling, rather than just dumping it into holes in the ground or speculating to try to bring in more income.

          • mdavidford
            July 5, 2024 at 2:54 pm
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            chrisonabike wrote:

            Maybe.  “the only party on the side of drivers” probably doesn’t mean “…but we are on the side of cyclists more” though!

            — chrisonabike

            No – I wouldn’t expect anything like that – more likely “…while cyclists aren’t important enough for us to care about either way”.

            I imagine ‘on the side of drivers’ probably means keep the freeze on fuel duty (and hope oil prices come down because geopolitics), maybe some sort of gesture towards a scrappage scheme, and a few pennies for potholes. On ULEZ I suspect they’ll ‘reflect on’ it for a few years until it becomes the new normal, and then quietly forget about it.

          • Jetmans Dad
            July 5, 2024 at 3:42 pm
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            chrisonabike wrote:

            Hopefully more local authorities can realise it’s to their advantage to find money and put it into cycling, rather than just dumping it into holes in the ground or speculating to try to bring in more income.

            — chrisonabike

            This is the key. Most of the roads cyclists will ride on in their communities will be the responsibility of the local authority not central government. What we want is for Westminster to set down minimum standards for acceptable infrastructure, encourage local authorities to actively look for opportunities to create it and not block them when they do.

          • chrisonabike
            July 5, 2024 at 4:28 pm
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            Jetmans Dad wrote:

            Hopefully more local authorities can realise it’s to their advantage to find money and put it into cycling, rather than just dumping it into holes in the ground or speculating to try to bring in more income.

            — Jetmans Dad

            This is the key. Most of the roads cyclists will ride on in their communities will be the responsibility of the local authority not central government. What we want is for Westminster to set down minimum standards for acceptable infrastructure, encourage local authorities to actively look for opportunities to create it and not block them when they do.

            — chrisonabike

            Yep.

            Unfortunately “money from Central govt.” may be an issue.  Now, that itself doesn’t mean they can’t shuffle the funding and find money if they wanted.  Nor would extra money go to cycling in most places.  It’s political choices. to some extent

            As for “national standards” – that was my cry for a long time.  However I’ve recently learned that in the most successful cycling country it may in fact work differently.  Still digesting this one (and almost certainly “we can’t get there from here” anytime soon), but maybe worth a watch:

  2. OnYerBike
    July 5, 2024 at 9:56 am
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    Surely at some point UCI will

    Surely at some point UCI will need to revisit their rules on items being commercially available, if this is the end result (see also £300 aero beaks and >£50k track bikes). It makes a mockery of the rule if a company can just list an item on a website with an outrageous price and claim that makes it “available” if the reality is no-one in their right mind is going to buy it. 

    That said, I’m not quite sure what the solution is.

    In general it appeals that pros use equipment which is comparable to that which is accessible to ordinary people – I think it makes their achievements more relatable. I also wonder if it’s better for the industry – even if you don’t buy the exact same thing, if they are similar you can see more potential for trickle down benefits. For example, the “standard” Tarmac frame looks very similar to the S-works version, so you can imagine a lot of the R&D is shared between them. But when you consider something like Ganna’s entirely 3D printed Pinarello track bike, it’s reasonable to question if that has anything in common with the off-the-shelf Bolide.  

    I did wonder about something along the lines of a requirement to sell a minimum number to the general public, or a requirement that the item be commercially viable (i.e. profitable based on sales to the general public). Although I don’t know how that could work for items that are new (pros will be using them before they have gone on sale to the general public). 

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    • Matthew Acton-Varian
      July 5, 2024 at 10:59 am
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      To add to your point – the

      To add to your point – the lower tier Tarmacs come out of exactly the same mould, but use older FACT10 generation carbon layup techniques initially introduced in earlier S-Works models. There’s very little difference in frame weight but there is a small noticeable difference in stiffness/compliance.

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    • I love my bike
      July 5, 2024 at 11:09 am
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      Are they faster than the £30

      Are they faster than the £30 socks, or any of the other brands aero socks costing less than £100? A gold-plated bike could cost a fortune, but would that be an issue, or only if a pro rode it?

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      • mattw
        July 5, 2024 at 2:17 pm
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        You pay £30 for socks?

        You pay £30 for socks?

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    • The_Ewan
      July 5, 2024 at 12:19 pm
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      OnYerBike wrote:

      or a requirement that the item be commercially viable (i.e. profitable based on sales to the general public)

      — OnYerBike

      Or give the teams a budget cap that has to be accounted against full RRP, so anything priced unfeasibly high to prevent normal people buying it also has the same effect on them.

      And if the socks are so good that spending a grand on them really were to be better value than spending it on something else, then they can still do that.

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      • stonojnr
        July 5, 2024 at 1:08 pm
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        And you end up like F1 or
        And you end up like F1 or football where you just need a good accountant who knows the loopholes in the rules.

        Cycling teams always tell us how poor in terms of cashflow they are anyway, none of them spend this kind of money on this stuff, it’s gifted by sponsors.

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  3. brooksby
    July 5, 2024 at 10:03 am
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    “Aero socks”??? 

    “Aero socks”??? 

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    • Hirsute
      July 5, 2024 at 10:16 am
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      They only weigh 100g !
      They only weigh 100g !

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  4. RoryLydiate
    July 5, 2024 at 11:24 am
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    I wouldn’t hold your breath.

    I wouldn’t hold your breath. I don’t remember the previous Labour government being that favourable toward cyclists. Active travel (like other green measures) is cheap which means it ain’t great for either GDP or tax and, like the government that has just been kicked out, Labour governments run out of money. Hope I’m totally wrong!

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    • chrisonabike
      July 5, 2024 at 12:14 pm
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      Yup!  It’s many of the same

      Yup!  It’s many of the same people that voted Conservative last time that voted for them, Im sure they don’t think the Great British Public has had a conversion experience!  (They just grew tired of the last lot and Labour slipped on some bluer clothes and moved to meet them).

      I think some longer term labour folks also have aversion to the bike – or rather they note the “unfair” class complaints eg. the rich are still driving but we can barely afford it!  Or want to appear supporters of the “working man” (and it is usually gendered thus) with van.

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    • Hirsute
      July 5, 2024 at 12:17 pm
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      If people are fitter and
      If people are fitter and healthier, they will need the NHS less so that will benefit the public purse.

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    • the little onion
      July 5, 2024 at 1:14 pm
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      The last labour government

      The last labour government set a target of halving road deaths in 10 years. Everyone scoffed and laughed. They hit the target in 9 years, in the face of wailing about speed cameras being there solely to collect revenue.

       

      I’ve also just seen Starmer’s speech. Basically, his won’t be a government of culture wars. As cyclists and active travel have been the ‘enemy’ in these culture wars, this is very, very welcome news. I’m sure Starmer’s government will let me down on active travel and other issues – but they will be much, much better than the last lot.

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      • dubwise
        July 5, 2024 at 5:01 pm
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        I wouldn’t trust Starmer as

        I wouldn’t trust Starmer as far as I could throw him.

        Has he stop flip-flopping over what a female is?

        At the end of the day, they are all lying scum.

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  5. Rendel Harris
    July 5, 2024 at 1:54 pm
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    The aggressor in the pushing

    The aggressor in the pushing incident certainly wins hypocrite of the day, the guy running alongside the cyclists was running in the same channel as the aggressor was standing, so if the runner shouldn’t have been there the aggressor shouldn’t have been standing there either. Yes the idiots who run really close to the cyclists are a scourge, but this one looks fairly innocuous compared to many. The fact that the aggressor didn’t just grab the runner but threw him off the side of the drop and then started swearing at him makes one suspect that he’s one of the distressingly common type who thinks he’s a bit tasty and loves an opportunity to use violence against others in a situation where he can claim he was acting in the interest of the riders.

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    • EK Spinner
      July 5, 2024 at 1:58 pm
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      These incidents can be

      These incidents can be interperated in so many ways

      I feel the shover was at the side of the road cheering and encouraging, he had space to step back safely if required. The runner was moving rapidly without paying attention to where he was going.

      The shove was an understandable defensive reaction to someone who was in the process of running into the shover, if he hadn’t pushed he would have been knocked over by the idiot who wasn’t looking where he was going.

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      • mdavidford
        July 5, 2024 at 2:16 pm
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        EK Spinner wrote:

        he had space to step back safely if required.

        — EK Spinner

        Although he was more interested in hurling abuse at the other guy than doing so, and nearly took a rider out as a result.

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      • Rendel Harris
        July 5, 2024 at 3:09 pm
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        As you say, the “shover” did

        As you say, the “shover” did have space to step back safely if required so he could have got out of the runner’s way rather than take the violence option. If you look at the runner before he reaches the shover, he’s actually tracking in a straight line very close to the edge of the road and not interfering with the riders at all, it’s only the shover’s decision to stand his ground and push the guy over that creates a problem and nearly interferes with the riders.

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      • ErnieC
        July 5, 2024 at 8:49 pm
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        EK Spinner wrote:

        These incidents can be interperated in so many ways

        I feel the shover was at the side of the road cheering and encouraging, he had space to step back safely if required. The runner was moving rapidly without paying attention to where he was going.

        The shove was an understandable defensive reaction to someone who was in the process of running into the shover, if he hadn’t pushed he would have been knocked over by the idiot who wasn’t looking where he was going.

        — EK Spinner

        I agree. Looked more like an instinctive push to protect himself. The swearing possibly very much the same. 

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  6. mattw
    July 5, 2024 at 2:16 pm
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    The Election looks positive

    The Election looks positive to very positive.

    But there’s a hell of a lot of lobbying work for us to do, starting with getting the 2014-promised review of road safety kicked off in the first King’s Speech.

    Now is the time to start.

    Pity about Labour splitting their own vote and letting IDS back in.

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  7. Miller
    July 5, 2024 at 3:35 pm
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    Stonking good TT stage today,

    Stonking good TT stage today, engrossing to see a full set of Galacticos up against each other.

    A very enjoyable watch on a great day.

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  8. wtjs
    July 5, 2024 at 5:13 pm
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    At the end of the day, they

    At the end of the day, they are all lying scum

    Tory apologist alert! We’ve had Johnson and Truss, we’ve had the bent betting on the election date, country will be destroyed by Labour ‘spend, spend, spend’ doom-mongering etc. etc., so Tory Damage Limitation BlackOps launches ‘they’re all as bad as each other’ in a futile attempt to cover-up the truly monumental scale of the Tory misdeeds.

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  9. IanMK
    July 6, 2024 at 6:25 am
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    Julien Bernard has also been
    Julien Bernard has also been handed a fine for a similar heinous crime as Davide Ballerini. How dare he stop and kiss his wife. Very unseemly.

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  10. Hirsute
    July 6, 2024 at 9:06 am
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    Is this anyone’s bike ?

    Is this anyone’s bike ?

     

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    • mdavidford
      July 6, 2024 at 9:16 am
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      Does that ‘P’ stand for

      Does that ‘P’ stand for ‘Passed on the 60th attempt’?

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  11. Professor_Parnassus
    July 6, 2024 at 6:40 pm
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    Pushed off a mountain…??
    Pushed off a mountain…?? Please don’t feel the need to resort to clickbait

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Boost power and maintain feel: Get the best out of your hydraulic brakes with these handy tips
Brake maintenance should mean more than an annual bleed. Here's how to get the very best out of your hydraulic brakes
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Pirelli revamps MTB tyre line up with simpler naming and fast-rolling option
Pirelli revamps MTB tyre line up with simpler naming and fast-rolling option
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Shimano Deore M6200 four piston brakes
Shimano Deore M6200 four piston brakes
Easier bleeding, refined ergonomics, and solid trail power: the trail riders’ standard
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Boost power and maintain feel: Get the best out of your hydraulic brakes with these handy tips
Boost power and maintain feel: Get the best out of your hydraulic brakes with these handy tips
Brake maintenance should mean more than an annual bleed. Here's how to get the very best out of your hydraulic brakes
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Orbea Kimu 24 H10 TR kid’s MTB
Orbea Kimu 24 H10 TR kid’s MTB
The Kimu 24 H10 TR is a superb bike for inspiring young riders to develop their off-road riding skills. It has been an awful lot of fun and has given us the confidence to tackle more ambitious trails than ever before, together.
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Trek and Scott debut prototype 32-inch XC bikes at Soldier Hollow World Cup
Trek and Scott debut prototype 32-inch XC bikes at Soldier Hollow World Cup
32-inch wheels have arrived to Solder Hollow in force, and there's a little extra thrown in for good measure
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Electric mountain bikes have confused my approach to racing
Electric mountain bikes have confused my approach to racing
Liam's just finished a weekend end racing e-MTBs, and it's thrown a race bike choice spanner in the works
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32-inch gravel tyres officially enter Schwalbe’s range with two models and two widths
32-inch gravel tyres officially enter Schwalbe’s range with two models and two widths
Schwalbe's 32-inch gravel rubber is here, and the brand reckons that this is just the tip of the iceberg
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Pinarello expands Dogma XC range to include new ‘affordable’ models, with bikes starting at £6k
Pinarello expands Dogma XC range to include new ‘affordable’ models, with bikes starting at £6k
Marathon and downcountry comes for Pinarello's Dogma XC full suspension platform with new, more affordable bikes, and yep, a very, very expensive build, too
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“A sledgehammer to crack a nut”: Campaigners protest Merseyrail’s blanket e-bike ban as train company insists “safety must always come first”
“A sledgehammer to crack a nut”: Campaigners protest Merseyrail’s blanket e-bike ban as train company insists “safety must always come first”
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Lime bike rider banned for making ‘rude gesture’ at pedestrian, South Park takes on e-bikes, new models from Royal Dutch Gazelle and Thok + more
Lime bike rider banned for making ‘rude gesture’ at pedestrian, South Park takes on e-bikes, new models from Royal Dutch Gazelle and Thok + more
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Volt Urban LS
Volt Urban LS
Good quality city bike with maintenance-free automatic gears
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Plans for London-wide e-bike hire licences delayed by impending public consultation
Plans for London-wide e-bike hire licences delayed by impending public consultation
Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has planned to replace the borough-by-borough contracts with a city wide scheme since as early as 2017, but has been delayed by Department for Transport regulations
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Moustache updates Lundi 27 with Bosch’s first hub motor and a slimmer, lighter design
Moustache updates Lundi 27 with Bosch’s first hub motor and a slimmer, lighter design
Popular urban e-bike gets a major update with Bosch’s new Hub Line motor and a claimed 3.5kg weight saving
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Police oppose new cycle lane amid fears of “a highway for illegal e-bikes on drug runs” – but council insists area will be safer and avoid “mania” of local roads
Police oppose new cycle lane amid fears of “a highway for illegal e-bikes on drug runs” – but council insists area will be safer and avoid “mania” of local roads
Despite the police’s objections the proposed cycleway was approved by councillors, who say measures will be put in place to “reduce opportunities for anti-social behaviour”
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Network Rail removes sign suggesting e-bikes are banned in train stations, admitting “customers can continue to pass through”
Network Rail removes sign suggesting e-bikes are banned in train stations, admitting “customers can continue to pass through”
The sign caused worry and confusion among some cycling campaigners as a photo of the sign circulated online, particularly following Cycling UK's announcement of a planned demonstration against Merseyrail's ban of e-bikes on trains
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Voi refuses to take bikes out of Ealing, Forest losing patience with Sadiq Khan, Also’s highly anticipated TM-B e-bike faces more delays, Merseyrail e-bike ban protest + more
Voi refuses to take bikes out of Ealing, Forest losing patience with Sadiq Khan, Also’s highly anticipated TM-B e-bike faces more delays, Merseyrail e-bike ban protest + more
All the news from the world of e-bikes, including Orbea's frame issues, Also's TM-B delays, ongoing London e-bike turf wars and more
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AidanR 53 seconds ago

@mdavidford True, but why limit the assessment of such incidents to those cherry picked for this article?

in: “It didn’t look good right away”: Leading junior racer struck by driver during time trial training, forced out of world championships
Backladder 3 minutes ago

"I would even suggest that a rider on the TT bike with thier hands on the skis can still reach the brakes as quickly as a rider on a regular road bike with their hand on the top of the bars. In neother case are they covering the brakes with either hand and both would require a movement to cover it in a split second. So the bike is not in question, its the rider and their skill level." I think this statement is probably correct, but what it ignores is that riders usually use the top of the bars for riding uphill so the speed is a lot slower than when on a tt bike so the rider will have more reaction time for a given situation. Although you are correct to say that no bike is inherently dangerous we are really discussing bikes with riders on them and for the same rider a tt bike is more difficult to control in anything other than a straight line with no sidewind.

in: “It didn’t look good right away”: Leading junior racer struck by driver during time trial training, forced out of world championships
Boopop 3 minutes ago

Dear Road.cc, please check your emails - I sent an email yesterday evening asking for an original copy of the photo one of you took yesterday of LCC's cycling festival/iBike London ride. Cheers :)

in: “Sanctimonious swines”: Talksport presenter accuses cyclists of taking “diabolical liberties” in bizarre rant; “Seriously flawed”: Met Police speedy e-bike checks criticised for lack of rigour; Woman dramatically stops bike thieves + more on the live blog
jackcycles 6 minutes ago

@Steve K Lib Dems and "good" in one sentence. Nah, never happened

in: “Sanctimonious swines”: Talksport presenter accuses cyclists of taking “diabolical liberties” in bizarre rant; “Seriously flawed”: Met Police speedy e-bike checks criticised for lack of rigour; Woman dramatically stops bike thieves + more on the live blog
Mr Blackbird 10 minutes ago

@Paul J Those trispoke wheels sound absolutely lethal. I think their use and sales should be banned. The point you are missing here is that just because an aspect of bike design is perceived, without any context, as being more dangerous, it doesn't automatically follow that it should be banned. My argument is that the bike has to be ridden appropriately for the road conditions. Excessive speed in the wrong place is far more dangerous than TT bike geometry or trispoke wheels.

in: “It didn’t look good right away”: Leading junior racer struck by driver during time trial training, forced out of world championships
Rendel Harris 29 minutes ago

@didsthewinegeek What on earth does that mean? A cheap GPS speedometer means a cheap GPS speedometer, if you don't know what one of them is then I'm afraid I can't help you.

in: “Sanctimonious swines”: Talksport presenter accuses cyclists of taking “diabolical liberties” in bizarre rant; “Seriously flawed”: Met Police speedy e-bike checks criticised for lack of rigour; Woman dramatically stops bike thieves + more on the live blog
Smoggysteve 30 minutes ago

@Paul J You need to READ whay I am saying cos you clearly do not get it. There is nothing inherently dangerous about a bike of any kind. Its 2 wheels, a frame, bars, groupset etc. There is nothing that makes that bike dangerous. A road bike in the wrong hands could be more likely involved in an incident than a TT bike in the hands of an experienced rider. The BIKE is not dangerous. The persons ability to handle it may make it appear more or less, but the inanimate object is not the danger. But tell me what is more dangerous: a road bike with no clip on skis but the rider is not holding the bars close to the brakes, maybe resting their hands on the top of the bars (like people used to do) and have their hands nowhere near the brake levers or a TT bike where the rider has their hands near the brakes not out front but actually on the bar ends near the brake levers? which is more dangerous? And I don't care what Mr Blackbird says, he's not the authority on bike safety and neither are you or I. I would even suggest that a rider on the TT bike with thier hands on the skis can still reach the brakes as quickly as a rider on a regular road bike with their hand on the top of the bars. In neother case are they covering the brakes with either hand and both would require a movement to cover it in a split second. So the bike is not in question, its the rider and their skill level.

in: “It didn’t look good right away”: Leading junior racer struck by driver during time trial training, forced out of world championships
Paul J 30 minutes ago

@Smoggysteve The raison d'etre of a TT bike is the squashed in position on the skis, and riders are going to train in the position they race generally. If that position is banned, and puppy paws are banned, riders will generally not use them in training... cause... they're training to be able to hold their race position. For a road bike position they'll be training to hold a position with their hands on the hoods just above the levers, and arms level - the fastest position on a road bike and UCI legal competition.

in: “It didn’t look good right away”: Leading junior racer struck by driver during time trial training, forced out of world championships
didsthewinegeek 33 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris So a cheap GPS speedometer isn't unqualified speak for a speed gun?

in: “Sanctimonious swines”: Talksport presenter accuses cyclists of taking “diabolical liberties” in bizarre rant; “Seriously flawed”: Met Police speedy e-bike checks criticised for lack of rigour; Woman dramatically stops bike thieves + more on the live blog
Smoggysteve 36 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris Well, in that case its impossible to say TT bikes are more dangerous. And that is my point entirely. But you could use times where TT bikes are used on open roads like Club 10s. There is a very commonly used one near me in Renfrewshire that's used by a whole manner of clubs. I can see on many Wednesday evenings dozens of riders - some on TT bikes , some on road bikes competing. I see no statistic from my time wathcing and competing in theses events that the TT bikes are involved in more incidents than the non TT bikes. And that is anecdotal but I have watched many event and I don't see a highly elevated danger at all. if there were they would be banned or discouraged. but they aint and that probably speaks more than someone who has very little experience riding them (in the case of Paul J) to decide what is dangerous and what isnt.

in: “It didn’t look good right away”: Leading junior racer struck by driver during time trial training, forced out of world championships

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