Jacob Rees-Mogg used racist term in House of Commons during swipe at “lunatic” cycle lane plans

Wow - that really is a bit of decent reporting on the issue. But I did have to laugh at the juxtaposition of the photo with the nay-sayer's comment (below).

Matt Howard, who took over the management of Rueters bar on Hoghton Street, agreed.

He said: “They’re an absolute bloody joke. It just takes all the parking away from people.

“Potentially I’ve got customers that aren’t coming because there’s no parking.”

May I suggest that perhaps customers should not be drink driving? How many people drive to a town centre pub/bar anyhow as opposed to getting a lift or using the bus? Are people now incapable of walking a short distance from a car park?

Drink driving aside (the low and no alcohol market is booming at the moment so it's entirely plausible that this publican does generate a reasonable income from drivers), how the publican can be aggrieved at the loss of parking is beyond me. If you take a look at Google Streetview then you can see that the front of the building used to have off-street parking for pub-goers back as late as August 2018. However, that's been removed in favour of an outdoor seating area. I've nothing against that (in fact, I happen to think it's a great idea) but it seems more that the manager/owner is upset at the loss of some public space which he was able to generate income from for which I have zero sympathy. Furthermore, there's also a public car park 3min walk from the pub. 

My heart does not bleed. 

Update: it appears that the owner of the pub is actually the "newly elected Cambridge ward councillor Sinclair Hesketh d’Albuquerque" (https://www.southportvisiter.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/gallery...). If that's the case then he's hardly independent of this! 

Updated update: I'm wrong - seems to have been sold on to the Matt Howard (https://southportindependents.co.uk/rueters-bar-grill-in-southport-aims-...). 

Final update: It is owned by Sinclair! I emailed the pub to query why they are so concerned about parking when they themselves removed spaces and got a reply from Sinclair! 

Yep, management and ownership is two different things sometimes. 

Although I would argue the parking space you mentioned in Streetview is staff only. Two cars with one blocking in the other is not customer parking. The outdoor area has pretty much always been there albeit it might have been extended to allow more customers when indoor eating was a no-no last year and this. 

But his drop in business, which he is blaming the cycle lane for, is actually more down to less people going out in various lockdowns AND less workers in the surrounding offices rather then the cycle lane itself stopping the few people who drove there from parking. 

I would think that when you think you are losing a debate, cannot deal with facts or reality you make up answers such as 'impose a cycle network' when it is a consultation where the questions are asked of the local residents that the MP represents and where results will be made public. Using the statement that we need to 'remember the convienence of the motorist' presumably above all else inculding the safety, health, wishes and needs of the local people or constituents details a disrespectful and corrupt mindset.

Interesting point. What debate was being lost though?

Rees Mogg used a racist term. People aren't "throwing down the race card", they're pointing it out where it exists. It's an instant reflex for the right to use the "woke" card.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Rees Mogg used a racist term. People aren't "throwing down the race card", they're pointing it out where it exists. It's an instant reflex for the right to use the "woke" card.

Debatable. It's not a common insult. It's not even from this century, or well known. What he did do was call out the colour a certain political party plasters itself in, while criticising them. Context is key.

Although as many has pointed out, JRM is also not of this century in most of his attitudes.

I still think the terms "Lunatic" in relation to a cycle lane (or the council putting it in), and his use of "socialist" as an insulting description for everything to the left is just as hateful as using the term most would see as racist if used against the far east peoples even if not meant in that term when describing Libdems. Seeing his language in all of the discussions does show why they try to stop any actual interviews being done with him.

1) The fact that something has been going on for 20 years does not justify it if it is wrong.

2) Calling Lib Dems "the Yellow Peril" is puerile, but representative of the broken political system in Britain. Name-calling should be reduced or eliminated, and constructive debate encouraged. It's hard to see that happening under the 1st-past-the-post system.

The Lib Dem's at the time (early 2000s) referred to themselves using the phrase to emphasise the "threat" they posed to the more established parties.

Have we now got to the point where groups are going to be corrected on what that are allowed to call themselves?

https://www.edlibdems.org.uk/scots_labour_stung_by_the_yellow_peril

That's not actually them calling themselves that, though - they've just copied it from The Times.

Looked to me like the headline was their own, the article text was from The Times. But either way, they don't seem to have taken offence.
Edit - I see that you are correct about it being The Times' headline.

'They are all the same' is plainly false*, but it is designed to excuse or justify bad behaviour. In this case your objective is to defend Johnson's dishonesty.

*Think about it. Are all TDF riders the same? No. Some are better at climbing, some at sprinting, some at time trials. Some dope, or did, others don't. Look at any profession, and 'they are all the same' is clearly untrue.

One of the great things about reading is that it exposes you to new information, such as the fact that yellow peril is a racist slur.

Give it a break you tool. Its not a racist slur, let's all be a little grown up here. Are you one of the little darlings who are offended by everything?  Someone misinterpreting the innocent use of a word or a phrase isn't racisim; Its stupidity. You're as stupid as these other race baiters, that frankly, the world could do without.

alexuk wrote:

Give it a break you tool. Its not a racist slur, .....

Are you joking?
It seems you are the one offended that someone had pointed it out to you....
Dude, I suggest that if you are using the term, you cease and desist.
Oh no, of course you've never heard of it. But you are also an expert on whether it's a slur....

alexuk wrote:

...you tool. ... let's all be a little grown up here...

Well you've not exactly made a great start.

You ok hun?

It is amazing the amount of wierdly abstract racist terms that come from Boris and his chosen few. For example I didn't know picaninie was one, although sad to say that using letterboxes to describe muslim women in the full burka or niqab was one I was aware of due to social media before it was put out there by a sitting MP. 

Although I agree with you that JRM is very stupid, and was not meaning the racial slur in that sense, the point is someone of his education should have known. And anyway calling a cycle lane "lunatic" is also offensive to me. Calling it badly designed and not fit for purpose is true for some of them though.

That descrpition referred to children of colour, usually houseboys, there's a pub in Hull called "The Black Boy" which allegedly gets it's name from a child doorman that used to open the door to visitors.