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Dylan Groenewegen wins stage six of the Tour de France
Dylan Groenewegen wins stage six of the Tour de France (ITV) (Image Credit: ITV)

“By a nose”: Dylan Groenewegen has last laugh, wins Tour stage with bizarre ‘aero beak’ back on display; Sprinter bunny hops 60km/h crash; Bikes at polling stations; Cav reaction; Opinion split over Schwalbe’s “revolutionary” valve + more on the live blog

Welcome back to the live blog, everyone recovered from yesterday’s Tour de France stage yet? Dan Alexander is back for all your news, reaction and more from the cycling world this Thursday… oh, and apparently there’s an election or something too…
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Jul 04, 2024 08:08
25

SUMMARY

  • "About time" or "change for the sake of it"? No surprise as opinion split over Schwalbe's "revolutionary" valve it hopes will be cycling's new tyre inflation industry standard
  • Introducing, one rapidly updated feature... record-breaker Mark Cavendish's greatest ever Tour de France stage wins
  • Mark Cavendish reflects on 35th Tour de France stage win: "It’s hard to fully grasp"
  • The congratulations continue — former teammates, rivals, friends, commentators and more join the Cav party
  • "Bicycles are very narrow and they're not going to get wider": Councillors slam plans to widen "dangerous" cycle lane, asking "why are we spending money on things they don't use?"
  • Incredible skill from Tour de France pro to bunny-hop sprint crash at 60km/h
  • "Such a nice guy to break my record": Eddy Merckx congratulates Cav
  • "We don't need a stage ruined because of a basic photo taken on a phone": Tour de France fan almost brings down Jonas Vingegaard while stepping into road to take photo of speeding peloton
  • Echelons to make an appearance on third sprint stage of the Tour de France?
  • Comment of the day
  • It wouldn't be an election without? Bikes at polling stations!
  • We're heading for a sprint — after crosswind fears don't come to much
  • Tesco tells cyclist who complained about broken and blocked bike racks outside shop that "working racks are never full" and "not considered high priority"
  • "By a nose": Dylan Groenewegen has last laugh, wins Tour stage with bizarre 'aero beak' back on display
Dylan Groenewegen wins stage six of the Tour de France
Dylan Groenewegen wins stage six of the Tour de France (ITV) (Image Credit: ITV)
4 July 2024, 08:08

"About time" or "change for the sake of it"? No surprise as opinion split over Schwalbe's "revolutionary" valve it hopes will be cycling's new tyre inflation industry standard

Schwalbe CLIK VALVE-8
Schwalbe CLIK VALVE-8 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Schwalbe CLIK VALVE-8
Schwalbe CLIK VALVE-8 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

You might have missed it in the Cavendish chaos yesterday teatime, but Schwalbe reckons it has a “revolutionary” new valve that will be the cycling industry’s new tyre inflation standard. Suvi heard all about it at Eurobike this week, the Clik valves promising: much easier attachment and operation, as well as no risk of air loss and 50 per cent more air flow rate. What’s more, Schwalbe says it can be retrofitted to your existing valves with a conversion kit.

> RIP Presta and Schrader? Schwalbe reckons its “revolutionary” new Clik valve is set to become cycling’s new tyre inflation industry standard

Us cyclists don’t really get involved with endless debates about what tech is best. You’d never catch us arguing over, I don’t know, something like disc brakes vs rim brakes… ah… or the merits of 1x… hmmm, I might need to rethink this. The news has prompted plenty of chatter among our readers, my favourite comment from Sredlums setting the mood early on before everyone had got to their keyboards…

“How is it possible no one has commented on this? It is the perfect set-up for a good fight. Presta fans and Schrader fans fighting [over] which valve should definitely needs no replacement, modernists versus traditionalists, Schwalbe fanboys versus haters, critical thinkers trying to find a design flaw… come on people, step up your game!”

Schwalbe CLIK VALVE-6
Schwalbe CLIK VALVE-6 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Schwalbe CLIK VALVE-6
Schwalbe CLIK VALVE-6 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Facetiousness aside, it is of course worth highlighting potential issues with Presta and Schrader, before looking at what Schwalbe says the Clik can address, that only seems like a sensible approach when weighing up claims about a new industry standard.

And while some will question the need to change, would a few more industry standards be a bad thing for cycling, a pursuit packed with so many part sizes and types that vary so marginally? If valves are one such part that would benefit from a standard is an altogether different question admittedly. Enough of my ramblings, let’s dive into your thoughts.

IanMSpencer: “I think that the Presta valve is flawed, too easy to damage — loads of people bend the top when trying to pump with a mini-pump, and Schrader is too bulky for road wheels. So, if this is easier to use, and there is a reasonably cheap converter (which itself can be reused from valve or pump) then it’s a yes from me.”

brooksby: “xkcd did a cartoon years ago, along the lines of two scientists saying there are too many competing standards and that they intend to come up with a universal standard to replace them all. The next panel has them complaining that there is now another competing standard, if I remember correctly. We’ve got Presta and Schrader, and we’ve all got the appropriate pump for our needs. Why do we need another valve standard?”

Said cartoon: 

pic.twitter.com/5xZSjyhpYX

— Jon (@ormondroyd) July 3, 2024

Mike Butcher: “Cycling needs to bring in a standard for all components, whether it’s valves or bottom brackets, there are too many variations out there already.” 

Commoner: “Can’t wait until just one is decided on…”

Happy Cycling UK: “Ok. Take my money…”

Steve Clayton: “Nah no point and more pointless crap to sort a problem that doesn’t exist.”

Paul Greendale: “About bloody time someone came up with an alternative to those two daft formats!”

Si: “No one. Absolutely no one has asked for this. Pure change for the sake of it!”

Any more for any more? Speak now or forever hold your silence… or at least until the next story on it…

4 July 2024, 08:08

Introducing, one rapidly updated feature... record-breaker Mark Cavendish's greatest ever Tour de France stage wins

Mark Cavendish's top 10 Tour de France wins
Mark Cavendish's top 10 Tour de France wins (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Cavendish's top 10 Tour de France wins
Mark Cavendish's top 10 Tour de France wins (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Record-breaker Mark Cavendish’s greatest ever Tour de France stage wins

4 July 2024, 08:08

Mark Cavendish reflects on 35th Tour de France stage win: "It’s hard to fully grasp"

Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5
Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5 (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5
Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5 (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

He’s had time to reflect on the events of yesterday, Mark Cavendish sprinting to victory on stage five of the Tour de France to finally break that stage-wins record. And what a sprint it was — weaving, darting, positional perfection and that all so familiar final burst.

In a release communicated by his Astana Qazaqstan team once the dust had settled, Cavendish admitted that even then it was “hard to fully grasp”.

“We worked towards it, and as a team, we did everything possible to make it happen. We have an incredible team, and I have amazing teammates. Throughout not just this Tour de France but all this time, I felt immense support from the entire team, and today we have the moment to celebrate this success together.

Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Cavendish wins record 35th Tour de France stage, 2024 Tour de France, stage 5 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“I am very happy to be part of Astana Qazaqstan Team, where I found friends and, essentially, an incredible family. Today, the team was magnificent, everything was done perfectly, and I managed to win. I believed in success, but the main thing is that the team believed in success, we were on the same wavelength and had a common goal. I received maximum support, and we purposefully worked towards the goal we achieved today.”

> “Cycling’s greatest ever sprinter”: Reaction to Mark Cavendish’s historic 35th Tour de France stage win

General Manager Alexandr Vinokurov added: “Few believed that we would succeed, that Mark’s arrival in Astana Qazaqstan Team would change history, but we believed and did everything to make today’s victory happen. We were close to this last year, but fate had other plans. I believe that real champions should not end their careers after a fall and injury, and I am happy that Mark decided to do another season in the end.

“But we are not going to stop; only five stages have passed, and most of the race is still ahead. We are ready, and we will continue to fight.”

4 July 2024, 08:08

The congratulations continue — former teammates, rivals, friends, commentators and more join the Cav party

Try spotting these on the road today, although they could be out of date by the end of play… 

Astana Qazaqstan 35 water bottles (Twitter/Astana)
Astana) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Astana Qazaqstan 35 water bottles (Twitter/Astana)
Astana) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The team has also shared the in-car footage of the moment they found out about the win, sports director Mark Renshaw yesterday explaining that their TV had been cutting in and out so they had a nervous wait…

– Congrats…
– Victory?
– No…
– YES!!! 😂😂😂

Unique images from Sports Directors car 🚙. MUST SEE!#TDF2024 #AstanaQazaqstanTeam pic.twitter.com/dLDK98yPc2

— Astana Qazaqstan Team (@AstanaQazTeam) July 3, 2024

Legendary commentator Phil Liggett has been on the mic for all 35 of Cav’s victories, the broadcaster reflecting on the day and admitting, “If I speak too long, I’m going to cry.”

“If I speak too long, I’m going to cry”@PhilLiggett #TDF2024 @MarkCavendish

After coining the “Manx Missile” nickname and commentating all 35 of Mark Cavendish’s Tour de France stage wins, Phil Liggett reflects on the moment. pic.twitter.com/ert2aSG7mF

— NBC Sports Cycling (@NBCSCycling) July 3, 2024

Former teammates and friends from Soudal Quick-Step had messages of congratulation too.

Mark Cavendish’s former teammates and sports directors in our squad had a special message for the Manxman after his historic #TDF2024 win 😃 pic.twitter.com/bM3P5YSQxM

— Soudal Quick-Step Pro Cycling Team (@soudalquickstep) July 3, 2024

Meanwhile, at the Israel-Premier Tech bus, Pascal Ackermann was trying to work out how much to bill Astana having been the man Cav followed into the final couple of hundred metres before the launch of his historic sprint. 

When your sprint ends up leading out the record-breaking @LeTour stage win 😉

Congratulations on making history, @MarkCavendish!#TDF2024 🇫🇷 #YallaIPT pic.twitter.com/6miafAGsfG

— Israel – Premier Tech (@IsraelPremTech) July 3, 2024

4 July 2024, 08:08

"Bicycles are very narrow and they're not going to get wider": Councillors slam plans to widen "dangerous" cycle lane, asking "why are we spending money on things they don't use?"

A259 seafront cycle lane plans, Hove (Brighton and Hove City Council)
A259 seafront cycle lane plans, Hove (Brighton and Hove City Council) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
A259 seafront cycle lane plans, Hove (Brighton and Hove City Council)
A259 seafront cycle lane plans, Hove (Brighton and Hove City Council) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “Bicycles are very narrow and they’re not going to get wider”: Councillors slam plans to widen “dangerous” cycle lane, asking “why are we spending money on things they don’t use?”

4 July 2024, 08:08

Incredible skill from Tour de France pro to bunny-hop sprint crash at 60km/h

Somewhat lost in the Cav chaos was Mads Pedersen’s crash, Lidl Trek confirming that the Dane suffered no fractures after hitting the barriers hard during the sprint. The team said: “He will continue to be monitored overnight and a final decision on whether he can start Stage six will be taken tomorrow morning.”

Then, in a positive update the team have since confirmed that Pedersen will start stage six, despite suffering a heavy impact to his left shoulder and back, the former world champion posting on social media that “Ice baths are my best friend these days”.

It happened as Cav was launching his sprint up front, French pro Axel Zingle pulling off a quite audacious crash-escaping display of skill. Just watch the bunny hop.

It was all about Cavendish’s win, but check out the bunny hop over a crashed out Mads Pedersen. pic.twitter.com/NACAYOGmKj

— Aaron N. Chamberlain 🤽🏻‍♂️ (@elmachuca) July 3, 2024

Shades of Peter Sagan bunny hopping Fabian Cancellara as the Swiss powerhouse fell on the cobbles at Paris-Roubaix in 2016 although, if anything, Zingle’s was even cleaner. Italian pro Andrea Palini pulled off something similar at the Tour of Slovenia back in 2017, Zingle’s instincts kicking in as Pedersen hit the barriers.

The Cofidis rider barely even broke stride (if one can have a ‘stride’ on a bike), looking about in apparent relieved disbelief having dodged disaster.

Recalling the incident, or at least the split second when it happened, Zingle said: “It happened very quickly. I had finished my job for Bryan [Coquard], I had moved aside. For me, the race was already over even though I was still going at 60 km/h. I didn’t expect to have a fall in front of me.

“I was coming too fast to brake, and I didn’t want to fall. I had my hands in a snug fit, I was ready so I tried and it went through. I felt that I had touched him, I hope I didn’t hurt him. But he has strong skin, I hope he’ll be in good shape tomorrow!”

4 July 2024, 08:08

"Such a nice guy to break my record": Eddy Merckx congratulates Cav

Mark Cavendish and Eddy Merckx (picture credit A.S.O./Pauline Ballet)
Pauline Ballet) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Cavendish and Eddy Merckx (picture credit A.S.O./Pauline Ballet)
Pauline Ballet) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Writing on Instagram, Eddy Merckx congratulated Mark Cavendish for breaking his Tour de France stage wins record, The Cannibal calling it a “historical achievement” and saying it’s “such a nice guy to break my record”.

The Insta story has been shared on Axel Merckx’s account too, so no doubts about the legitimacy of the words. Others, in an extremely on-brand move for cycling, used Strava, Remco Evenepoel calling it a “legendary day for cycling”.

Michal Kwiatkowski wrote: “I am not crying, you are… Chapeau Mark Cavendish.”

4 July 2024, 08:08

"We don't need a stage ruined because of a basic photo taken on a phone": Tour de France fan almost brings down Jonas Vingegaard while stepping into road to take photo of speeding peloton

Spectator almost causes crash during stage 5, 2024 Tour de France (Eurosport)
Spectator almost causes crash during stage 5, 2024 Tour de France (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Spectator almost causes crash during stage 5, 2024 Tour de France (Eurosport)
Spectator almost causes crash during stage 5, 2024 Tour de France (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “We don’t need a stage ruined because of a basic photo taken on a phone”: Tour de France fan almost brings down Jonas Vingegaard while stepping into road to take photo of speeding peloton

4 July 2024, 08:08

Echelons to make an appearance on third sprint stage of the Tour de France?

Tour de France 2024 stage six (ASO)
Tour de France 2024 stage six (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France 2024 stage six (ASO)
Tour de France 2024 stage six (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Around 90km to go on stage six, Lotto Dstny have just made the first (admittedly pretty half-hearted) attempt to stick it in the gutter and split the race in the crosswinds. The winds aren’t particularly strong around Dijon, but the flat, open, straight roads look prime for echelon action. We’ve heard the team cars telling their riders to stay alert, it could be an exciting couple of hours.

Highlight of the day remains Mathieu van der Poel pulling off the coolest way to get on a bike I think I’ve ever seen. 10/10, no notes…

pic.twitter.com/u3ZQEqjJ4P

— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 4, 2024

4 July 2024, 08:08

Comment of the day

Literally “Clik bait” https://t.co/BQmXxfP4Tk

— James – making Insurance easier – Downes (@james_downes) July 4, 2024

4 July 2024, 08:08

It wouldn't be an election without? Bikes at polling stations!

Bike at polling station (Graham Boulton via Twitter)
Bike at polling station (Graham Boulton via Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Bike at polling station (Graham Boulton via Twitter)
Bike at polling station (Graham Boulton via Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Election day means one thing — bikes at polling stations!

🗳️ Riding to the polls today? Let’s pedal together!

Share your photos of #BikesAtPollingStations with us and remember to tag us—and don’t forget your ID! 🚲 pic.twitter.com/BttsIcgz2k

— Cycling UK (@WeAreCyclingUK) July 4, 2024

Get your photos in the comments, and if you’re still undecided…

Polling Station (Flickr Creative Commons - Simon Clayson)
Polling Station (Flickr Creative Commons - Simon Clayson) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Polling Station (Flickr Creative Commons - Simon Clayson)
Polling Station (Flickr Creative Commons – Simon Clayson) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> General Election 2024 — What do the main parties promise for cycling and active travel? 

4 July 2024, 08:08

We're heading for a sprint — after crosswind fears don't come to much

If you haven’t had enough fun at the polls today…

Poll

4 July 2024, 08:08

Tesco tells cyclist who complained about broken and blocked bike racks outside shop that "working racks are never full" and "not considered high priority"

Broken bike racks blocked by plants at Tesco Stalham store, Norwich (image provided)
Broken bike racks blocked by plants at Tesco Stalham store, Norwich (image provided) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Broken bike racks blocked by plants at Tesco Stalham store, Norwich (image provided)
Broken bike racks blocked by plants at Tesco Stalham store, Norwich (image provided) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Tesco tells cyclist who complained about broken and blocked bike racks outside shop that “working racks are never full” and “not considered high priority”

4 July 2024, 08:08

"By a nose": Dylan Groenewegen has last laugh, wins Tour stage with bizarre 'aero beak' back on display

We never doubted the aero beak. Promise. In all seriousness, Dylan Groenewegen’s sixth Tour de France stage win, and first since 2022, is almost certainly down to his legs and Jayco AlUla teammates, not a watt being saved by an aero nose cover.

With that said, top work Jayco’s social media team…

#TDF2024

Dylan Groenewegen wins by a nose 👃 pic.twitter.com/wZSO45ZWNH

— GreenEDGE Cycling (@GreenEDGEteam) July 4, 2024

Despite looking strong at the front of the peloton for much of the run-in, Cavendish and Astana were nowhere to be seen at the finish, the history-maker coming home in 20th place. Jasper Philpsen was again the nearly-man in second place, the Belgian getting pipped by Groenewegen on the bike throw. The Alpecin-Deceuninck sprinter has however now been relegated for cutting off Wout van Aert during the sprint, meaning it’s second place for Biniam Girmay.

After the finish, the Dutchman’s nose for victory was there for all to see, ‘Batman’ as he has been dubbed in recent days celebrating with his teammates and the latest frontier in questionable aero tech shining bright…

Groenewegen en zijn vader, wachtend op de definitieve uitslag… pic.twitter.com/10h6n9pacs

— Marijn Abbenhuijs (@MarijnAb) July 4, 2024

We never got an answer from the UCI on Groenewegen’s claim that he had been told to remove the aero beak on stage three to Turin, but he was seen wearing it again on the past two sprint stages.

> “This is getting ridiculous”: Bizarre aero ‘beak’ spotted attached to Dylan Groenewegen’s sunglasses at the Tour de France 

On Monday, he told his own team’s cameras, “I need to put if off, from the UCI… that was a big surprise! I think they saw me not pedalling and said, ‘this is not fair, we need to stop these fast sunglasses’.”

He then told ITV’s TV cameras: “I like the glasses. In sprinting you want to [be as] fast as possible and if you can change small things, that can change a lot.”

Dylan Groenewegen's aero beak, 2024 Tour de France stage three (Eurosport)
Dylan Groenewegen's aero beak, 2024 Tour de France stage three (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dylan Groenewegen's aero beak, 2024 Tour de France stage three (Eurosport)
Dylan Groenewegen's aero beak, 2024 Tour de France stage three (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

In a development that did not help the ridiculing it has been on the receiving end of online, we spotted the nose cover up on Scicon’s website priced at an eye-watering €350. Not that you’ll be able to buy one yet, the “flexible and adjustable nose pad” currently unavailable — although Scicon is more than happy to notify you when it’s back in stock.

Scicon nose cover
Scicon nose cover (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Scicon nose cover
Scicon nose cover (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

With that said, if it guarantees me a Tour de France win, maybe it’s worth stumping up for? I’ll give it a shot and report back. It’ll make an interesting review if nothing else…

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25 thoughts on ““By a nose”: Dylan Groenewegen has last laugh, wins Tour stage with bizarre ‘aero beak’ back on display; Sprinter bunny hops 60km/h crash; Bikes at polling stations; Cav reaction; Opinion split over Schwalbe’s “revolutionary” valve + more on the live blog”

  1. AidanR
    July 4, 2024 at 8:23 am
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    Clik – fantastic idea. Presta
    Clik – fantastic idea. Presta valves in particular are terrible. The fact that adapters are available so you don’t need to buy new tubes and pumps is critical.

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    • Matthew Acton-Varian
      July 4, 2024 at 10:00 am
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      Exactly. Whilst there have

      Exactly. Whilst there have been “new ideas” that were simply a modified version of either Presta or Schrader (don’t forget Dunlop valves were another standard since consigned to history) this design is more in depth, and is also minimalist in size. Muc-Off released a coreless valve (tubeless specific) around the same time – but uses a ball valve in an otherwise Presta standard body. Not a problem for MTB but a bulky item like that would be scoffed at by road riders.

      This Clik system is an easy retrofit for tubeless and inner tube Prestas with a removeable core. It’s light and minimalist and does away with valve caps for those weight weenies who never use them. And as of 2030 will become an open standard to adopt. And is easy to revert if you decide it’s not for you. I’m up for trying it out, especially for tubeless systems.

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      • Chris RideFar
        July 5, 2024 at 8:27 am
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        Unfortunately, Dunlop valves

        Unfortunately, Dunlop valves are still alive in some regions. I’m a bike mechanic in Switzerland, and I regularly see them on cheap bikes from large department stores. I even had one group of bike tourers from Austria who were searching for spare tubes and were disappointed that I didn’t have any with Dunlop valves! My advice is always to switch the tubes for Schrader valves. I definitely agree that Presta is too fragile and Schrader too bulky, so improvements are certainly possible.

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    • Pub bike
      July 4, 2024 at 10:44 am
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      Yeah but think of the extra

      Yeah but think of the extra weight of those adapters – can you get them made out of unobtainium?

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    • KDee
      July 4, 2024 at 2:53 pm
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      But if I read correctly, an

      But if I read correctly, an existing Presta pump head works fine anyway. I think I’ll order a couple of these Clik valves for my tubeless road bike just to see how it goes. I don’t mind experimenting a bit for 12 euros.

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  2. Nagai74
    July 4, 2024 at 9:16 am
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    Not much attention being paid

    Not much attention being paid to the road in the Astana team car!

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  3. dubwise
    July 4, 2024 at 9:26 am
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    Is that the same Phil Ligget
    Is that the same Phil Ligget who defended Lance Armstrong to the hilt and said those who stated he was a druggie, scum and liars? That Phil Ligget?

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    • Secret_squirrel
      July 4, 2024 at 11:32 am
      0

      The revelance to Cav’s #35

      The revelance to Cav’s #35 being?  Or did you just want another Armstrong rant? 

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  4. two20
    July 4, 2024 at 10:42 am
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    Well nobody can accuse the

    Well nobody can accuse the peloton of gifting Cavendish his record-breaking stage, brilliant, and incredibly emotional. That said, Merckx won his 34 stages whilst winning 5 Tours, with no days off, and no coming in 40 minutes down on tough stages. For me that’s different. But, undoubtedly Cavendish is the greatest sprinter in Tour history, chapeau!!

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    • Matthew Acton-Varian
      July 4, 2024 at 11:20 am
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      It is difficult, if not

      It is difficult, if not impossible to compare the two achievents due to the differing nature of the two riders, along with the eras they are from.

      However there’s an old football saying – “you can only beat the team in front of you”. If you transcribe it to suit cycling, it will become “you can only beat the riders beside/behind”. By the Merckx era the Tour was, and has always been since, a 21 stage race. Both riders had effectively the same rate of opportunity depending on editions entered. A stage win is a stage win, regardless of stage profile.

      Both Merckx’s long standing record, and Cav’s unique run to break it, are incredible and unrivalled achievements in their own right. Both have earned their titles as legends of the sport owing to their longevity and their abilities to keep winning race after race. Merckx is the GC GOAT, Cavendish the Sprinting GOAT.

      It remains to be seen whether Merckx’s GC record will come under threat, but this plucky Slovenian kid Pogacar might have a chance.

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      • rookybiker
        July 4, 2024 at 7:44 pm
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        If you transcribe it to suit

        If you transcribe it to suit cycling

        What is suit cycling?

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        • chrisonabike
          July 5, 2024 at 8:45 am
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          rookybiker wrote:

          If you transcribe it to suit cycling

          What is suit cycling?

          — rookybiker

          Perhaps this?

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          • chrisonabike
            July 5, 2024 at 8:47 am
            0

            Or for top and bottom:

            Or for top and bottom:

            https://momentummag.com/riding-in-a-suit/

          • mdavidford
            July 5, 2024 at 8:50 am
            0

            Is that a Boris Johnson fan

            Is that a Boris Johnson fan club meet-up?

    • SimoninSpalding
      July 4, 2024 at 1:52 pm
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      You say that, I have seen on

      You say that, I have seen on another website’s comment section exactly that suggestion.

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  5. Hirsute
    July 4, 2024 at 11:27 am
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    Pram cycle – only got a

    Pram cycle – only got a twitter link

    https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1808123709590237362

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    • quiff
      July 4, 2024 at 1:59 pm
      0

      “That’s not a hundred years

      “That’s not a hundred years ago” I thought. Then swifltly realised I’ve got old, because instinctively I still think a hundred years ago means something starting with 18… 

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  6. mitsky
    July 4, 2024 at 1:04 pm
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    “Road rage ramming incident

    “Road rage ramming incident caught on CCTV
    A man has received a suspended prison sentence following an incident of road rage on the A55.”

    But cyclists.
    Someone call Matthew Briggs and IDS.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cg64z7wx6wyo

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    • Simon E
      July 4, 2024 at 3:50 pm
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      And next to it on the BBC’s

      And next to it on the BBC’s Wales – North East page:

      School bus driver arrested for drug driving – the 45 year old tested positive for cannabis.

      While in the local rag (Daily Post) today:

      Kiera Ridler was crashed into another car while driving at about 65mph on a 30mph road during a Flintshire car meet. Her vehicle spun and hit and paralysed 23 year-old pedestrian Christopher Rakestraw, who requires round-the-clock care as a result.

      Suspended sentence, banned from driving for a piddling 2 years & 10 months.

      surprise

      https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/left-man-paralysed-two-others-29472660

      But you’re right, it’s bloody cyclists that cause all the problems.

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    • ktache
      July 4, 2024 at 7:52 pm
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      “clipped…”??!

      “clipped…”??!

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      • quiff
        July 4, 2024 at 8:21 pm
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        I thought that!

        I thought that!

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  7. SimoninSpalding
    July 4, 2024 at 1:50 pm
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    Re getting on a bike, I have

    Re getting on a bike, I have seen a couple of senior cyclists with limited hip mobility getting on a bike similar to this. Not sure if that is why MvdP did it.

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    • quiff
      July 4, 2024 at 2:01 pm
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      Presumably not with quite the

      Presumably not with quite the same panache?!

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  8. mdavidford
    July 4, 2024 at 3:20 pm
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    Two bikes at our polling

    Two bikes at our polling station, but neither of them close enough to the sign to work as a photo. Come on people – put some thought into it! ☹

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    • stonojnr
      July 4, 2024 at 6:38 pm
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      No dogs, or bikes (nowhere to
      No dogs, or bikes (nowhere to park or lock them up anyway) and it’s walkable for me anyway

      But plenty of cars though, the average distance to a polling station, at least in urban areas is supposed to be 2 miles isn’t it.?

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chrisonabike 6 minutes ago

Seemed pretty visible to me - and she was sporting light-coloured hair, bag, footwear and bright trousers. What if she'd been approaching a motorist "out of the sun", or passing a field of oilseed rape or stand of autumnal trees later in the year? If you think that's flippant, note that "sun" and "tree leaves" have been advanced as defense / mitigation in court despite cyclists following guidance ('should'). Frankly she's already done the best preaching possible: been a "normal person" riding a bike.

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Rendel Harris 11 minutes ago

@60somethingcyclist Looks like you've stepped straight into silly comment mode without looking at all at the actual facts of the case. It has nothing to do with shared paths, the cyclist was on a public road on the vehicle carriageway, the pedestrian was standing on a traffic island waiting to cross. Evidence from independent witnesses shows that the pedestrian stepped out into the path of the cyclist without warning when he was around two metres from her. Much has been made of the fact that he was possibly riding at 5mph more than the motor vehicle speed limit for the road but he could have been riding at 10 mph and he still would have had no chance of avoiding her. The pedestrian was solely responsible for the incident and no amount of "mutual consideration and respect" would have changed that. Suggest reading the articles and evidence in future before commenting with such nonsense.

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60somethingcyclist 14 minutes ago

@yodhrin I should know, I was one.

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chrisonabike 15 minutes ago

@60somethingcyclist hmm... that's a good lesson, but perhaps not one to draw from this case where someone stepped out in front of and close to an oncoming cyclist. There may be other lessons from this case - eg. how do we best train people to expect cyclists, understand that cyclists can move unexpectedly quickly, and educate cyclists that speed awareness matters for them also (even if not explicitly in law). And perhaps what places it's appropriate for cyclists to train / exercise in (and provision of such places if there's sufficient demand but they're lacking)? But it's hard to extrapolate that from even a handful of incidents, never mind one.

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60somethingcyclist 17 minutes ago

Good to see the Secretary of State practicing what she preaches, especially adhering to DfT advice on wearing a helmet. Usual keyboard clowns having a dig. One valid point though, the Highway Code advice on cycle wear clearly states "Daylight & Poor Light: You should wear light-coloured or fluorescent clothing (such as neon yellow, orange, or pink) to help other road users see you" Some form of hi-viz would have been a good example.

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belugabob 24 minutes ago

“I agree near schools and places like that but all these road [sic] elsewhere are ridiculous,” Leon began. “You had cars in the 80s that had no power steering, ABS, all manual cars, and 30 mile an hour limit. “Now you have cars with every gadget under the sun, stops on a dime, and they wanna drop it to 20mph." I feel that this is part of the problem... modern cars are, if anything, too refined. They accelerate more quickly, are more comfortable at speed, have aircon, airbags, power steering and decent radios - all of which make the driving experience more relaxing and requiring a little less input/attention from the driver (who doesn't really realise how fast they are going, or how quickly they got there) The "stopping on a dime" argument is particularly worrying, as all this means is the the driver's false sense of safety, so they can tend to push things further. As for the "cars weren't designed to do 20 mph" angle, design aims and capabilities are not mutually exclusive...in fact, I'd say that modern cars are better, in this respect, due to engine refinements.(and how many older cars are there, nowadays, in this leading age that we live in?)

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60somethingcyclist 37 minutes ago

I think this case is a lesson for us all, cyclists and pedestrians to be careful and mindful of others when we're out and about, especially on shared paths. Both groups have as much right as the other to be there. Mutual consideration and respect will help a lot.

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captain_slog 2 hours ago

I’d say that colour was more like fuchsia (and coming soon to a Rapha Pro Team jacket near you).

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chrisonabike 3 hours ago

@yodhrin I believe the fairer summary is "we don't know - but making the main point advocating a form of PPE with relatively limited protection - and to a group of likely experienced cyclists - isn't very helpful..." I've only read one of the reports but that suggested the skull removal was to alleviate pressure from major brain swelling. And a given helmet *might* be better than the standard. So I think "don't know" is fairest.

in: “Sometimes I wish I had died”: Cyclist had quarter of his skull removed after fly-tipped, asbestos-riddled shed on blind bend caused “catastrophic” crash
yodhrin 12 hours ago

@robgodd The poor guy himself suffered a traumatic brain injury and his skull was so badly shattered a significant portion of it had to be removed - do me a favour, have a look around cycling helmet manufacturers and see if any of them claim the foam hats they produce will protect against or even mitigate that level of injury. I'll wait if you like, but I can save us both the time and tell you what you'll find: none of them. Not a single one of them will. Because they don't, and they *can't* based on simple physics. Once the point of failure in a material is reached all(or as near as makes no odds) of the additional force beyond that necessary threshhold transfers through to the object beneath. Since bicycle helmets are rated for forces roughly equivalent to being dropped straight down from a stationary start 1.5m above a hard surface. Now, I'm not an expert in vehicle crash investigation, but I'm *fairly* sure that any impact or series of impacts powerful enough to render a quarder of your skull into gravel, put you in a weeks-long coma, give you massive amnesia, and leave you with ongoing symptoms of traumatic brain injury are a little bit, a teeny-weeny amount, a little smidgeon-widgeon more than what bike helmets are rated for. That's why none of the companies that make them claim they will help in such circumstances: because they know it would be a lie, and that unlike uninformed punters, carbrained journalists, or "medical professionals" who think wearing a helmet would save you from a broken arm(an actual scenario encountered by a mate, who's nurse at the A&E tutted and harrumphed her way through his whole treatment due to his lack of helmet despite his bonce having come through *being hit by a car* - another scenario bike helmets are worthless in - completely unscathed), the lawyers for those companies know their business and understand that if you lie in advertising you will get sued into the ground.

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