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Richmond Park cyclist warned about speeding by police (via The Department of Parks & Recreation/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Police warn cyclist about speeding in Richmond Park; Jeremy Vine recruits another impatient driver to the Clown of the Day circus; LTN vandals pour oil over planters; Rapid Tour de France times; World’s longest solar bike path + more on the live blog

Is it finally summer? Dan Alexander is on the final live blog before he inevitably tops up his sun burn out in the lanes tomorrow
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Jul 16, 2021 08:04
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SUMMARY

  • Jeremy Vine recruits another impatient driver to the Clown of the Day circus
  • Tadej Pogačar clocks fastest ascent of Luz Ardiden since Lance Armstrong's 2003 Tour de France winning blitz
  • Tulse Hill LTN vandalised with oil poured over planters
  • Police warn cyclist about speeding in Richmond Park
  • Get a room...
  • World's longest solar bike path opens in the Netherlands
  • Get ready for one hot weekend out on the bike
  • Tour de France stage 19 update: Dangerous chase group including Mads Pedersen, Davide Ballerini and Jasper Stuyven tries to bridge to the break
  • Brooks England and Brompton release limited-edition Team GB bike and saddle
  • When you've got too many jerseys
  • Here's what has changed for ad-free users...Plus some temporary fixes if you're having problems with the site
  • Thomas De Gendt looking forward to a break after probably his final Tour de France
  • Matej Mohoric shushes the haters after soloing to second Tour de France stage
  • Team Sky reunion
  • Reader comments and reaction: Police warn cyclist about speeding in Richmond Park
Richmond Park cyclist warned about speeding by police (via The Department of Parks & Recreation/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
16 July 2021, 08:04

Jeremy Vine recruits another impatient driver to the Clown of the Day circus

Yesterday’s Clown of the Day was, I think, showing off to his embarrassed passenger in the back seat. If you have a problem with my road positioning I’d be delighted to hear from you. #LondonCycling pic.twitter.com/cx8cre0n0b

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) July 15, 2021

This driver can do it all…encroach into a cycle lane, hoot a cyclist riding sensibly and safely, ignore potential hazards, get in an argument, lose the argument, resort to ‘mind your business’, speed off…and get stuck at the next set of lights. Jeremy suspected the driver’s passenger was getting a bit embarrassed by the showing off…

“Shut your mouth” = I’m wrong and I know it

— Bripod (@Bripod1983) July 15, 2021

You do have to wonder what the driver was hoping for? To get Jeremy out the way so he could race up to the red light for maximum waiting time? The presenter has recruited a few clowns to his circus recently, including one person driving down Kensington High Street on the phone…without hands on the wheel.

However, Jeremy will do well to outshine our favourite clown…There’s never a bad day to rewatch ‘Clown takes a pratfall’…Glorious. 

16 July 2021, 08:04

Tadej Pogačar clocks fastest ascent of Luz Ardiden since Lance Armstrong's 2003 Tour de France winning blitz

LUZ ARDIDEN | 1990 – 2021 | #TDF2021 pic.twitter.com/fRHBi1AOPh

— ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily) July 15, 2021

 The times are in…Pog, plus Richard Carapaz and Jonas Vingegaard for that matter, set the fastest times up Luz Ardiden since Lance Armstrong’s infamous 2003 stage-winning attack. Yesterday’s stage was considerably easier than the other most recent times on the list. It was 30km shorter and had less climbing than the Armstrong time and was 80km shorter than the Schleck time of 2011, which may account for the speedy ascending.

16 July 2021, 08:04

Tulse Hill LTN vandalised with oil poured over planters

Our local anti-LTN campaigners are really *really* horrible people 🙁 there is oil everywhere- dying plants, dangerous and filthy for kids walking to the school just next to this. Grim. pic.twitter.com/yblScrV3NS

— Rachel Mantell🧡 (@Rachel_Mantell) July 16, 2021

This was the scene at an LTN in Tulse Hill, Lambeth this morning after vandals doused the planters with oil. It’s the most recent incident of LTN vandalism in the area. Last month, vandals painted over ‘no car’ signs with white paint.

This is appalling behaviour. Who would do this? https://t.co/mq4AeHEJP6

— Will Norman (@willnorman) July 16, 2021

On a more positive note…

On the flip side these planters in Maidstone Hill Greenwich have been lovingly looked after by local residents… pic.twitter.com/511uoYRcWO

— Meristem Design (@MeristemDesign) July 16, 2021

16 July 2021, 08:04

Police warn cyclist about speeding in Richmond Park

The Met police driving like a madman to stop a cyclist for “speeding”(24mph) in Richmond Park…. pic.twitter.com/Kx03vJ2nn2

— The Department of Parks & Recreation 🦌 (@ldnparks) July 16, 2021

This police officer was keen to have a word about speeding with a cyclist in Richmond Park this morning, he even got the full blue light treatment…The speed limit in the park is 20mph (32km/h), something which is regularly broken by motorists. This rider was apparently riding at 24mph (38km/h) when he was stopped for a word…

“It’s your safety,” the officer can be heard explaining, before waving at the cyclist who stops to film. When asked if he told the rider to slow down, the officer walks off, says something inaudible, followed by, “but, yes”.

The officer then drives off, ignoring the questions about stopping speeding motorists. 

While speed limits on public roads only apply to those driving motor vehicles, the Royal Parks are able to apply the 20mph limit to all users, including those on bikes. Back in 2013, questions were asked after police fined a young cyclist for speeding in the park.

The discussion around road safety has continued since then, with many riders calling for through traffic to be banned. A recent ‘code of conduct’ for cyclists using the park was widely criticised, with one campaign group co-ordinator saying it cannot address the “real hazard” of motor traffic.

The Department of Parks & Recreation shared these videos from shortly after today’s incident and accused the police officer of an “epic double standard”…

Fifteen minutes later. 1600kg at 24/25mph. pic.twitter.com/1AVBDvZUww

— The Department of Parks & Recreation 🦌 (@ldnparks) July 16, 2021

16 July 2021, 08:04

Get a room...

🤩 From one legend to another. Respect!

🤩 D’une légende à une autre ! Respect !#TDF2021 pic.twitter.com/Jeuj13ZAmH

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 16, 2021

Eddy M made a big prediction at the start today: Tadej Pogačar will win five more yellow jerseys. It’s hard to argue with that… 

16 July 2021, 08:04

World's longest solar bike path opens in the Netherlands

World's longest solar bike path
World's longest solar bike path (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
World's longest solar bike path
World's longest solar bike path (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The central Dutch village of Maartensdijk is now home to the world’s longest solar bicycle path. At 330m long it is made from blocks of concrete topped with a thin transparent layer that allows sunlight to strike solar cells housed in the blocks. The pilot project hopes to see if such dual-use roads can be used to create solar energy while also serving active travel.

“It’s very important. We want to be climate-neutral in 2040, and then you have to dare to use innovation, and this is very innovative,” Arne Scaddelee told Design and Development. “We have a very full province with not much room, and for that reason you have to try dual use. So if you can use roads to generate energy, you have a double advantage.”

Solar bike paths are already used elsewhere in the Netherlands, but officials from Utrecht say this is the longest one yet.

16 July 2021, 08:04

Get ready for one hot weekend out on the bike

Too Hot Inbetweeners GIF from Toohot GIFs

I only went out for a half-hour spin but have come back feeling like a boozy Brit who’s fallen asleep on the beach in Lanzarote all afternoon. As much as anything this is to remind me not to get sunburnt tomorrow, but here are some of our best guides on hot weather riding…

Featuring some pictures that’ll hurt just looking at them…Cycling survival — how to avoid sunburn & stay comfortable

Cycling sun protection: 5 easy ways to look after your skin

And if you feel the weather’s finally worth picking out a fresh, new jersey — here are some of the best summer jerseys

Right, time for a cold shower and some water…

16 July 2021, 08:04

Tour de France stage 19 update: Dangerous chase group including Mads Pedersen, Davide Ballerini and Jasper Stuyven tries to bridge to the break

🚴‍♂️ A strong chasing group.

🚴‍♂️ Un imposant groupe de poursuivants.#TDF2021 pic.twitter.com/6DIoqcsTBh

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 16, 2021

Today’s stage 19 route is one of those Grand Tour stages that should be a sprint, but at this point in the race with everybody physically and mentally exhausted – the breakaway has a good chance. Six riders went up the road early on – Matej Mohoric and Simon Clarke amongst them. 

Now, a 14-man second group has blown up any hopes of a quiet roll to Libourne…Mads Pedersen, Jasper Stuyven, Davide Ballerini, Nils Politt and Mike Teunissen are just five of the names involved. Another move with Alejandro Valverde and Greg Van Avermaet has just been caught.

16 July 2021, 08:04

Brooks England and Brompton release limited-edition Team GB bike and saddle

Team GB Brompton
Team GB Brompton (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Team GB Brompton
Team GB Brompton (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Since the 2012 Olympics in London, Brompton has been providing GB athletes with their folding bike transport for getting around the various training centres and Olympic villages. Now, with the help of Brooks England, Team GB bikes and saddles are available to the public for purchase.

Featuring a more classy red, white and blue paint job than Lord Sugar’s Union Jack Pinarello….the GB Brompton has a red-lacquer finish with white and blue detailing and Brooks C-17 saddle featuring the roaring lion logo of Team GB.

The Brooks Team GB C17 All Weather Saddle is available online for £140 and both bike and saddle are in store at the Brompton Junction shop in London.

16 July 2021, 08:04

When you've got too many jerseys

#TDF2021 – Pogacar has Polka dot bike as spare bike today#LFRLive pic.twitter.com/H5czMSRjKu

— La Flamme Rouge (@laflammerouge16) July 16, 2021

I for one would love to see the garish nightmare of the yellow jersey riding a polka dot bike. I’ve also just realised that the final podium picture will be Pog (barring disaster) with his yellow, white and polka dots next to one other (let’s say green jersey wearer to avoid tempting fate)…

16 July 2021, 08:04

Here's what has changed for ad-free users...Plus some temporary fixes if you're having problems with the site

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There have been some changes here at road.cc this week…We’ve got a new layout for ad-free users, which is good…Unfortunately, we’ve also had a few problems with the site – especially for logged in users. 

We’re working hard to get things sorted as soon as possible, but in the meantime we’ve got a full page here with some temporary fixes…

16 July 2021, 08:04

Thomas De Gendt looking forward to a break after probably his final Tour de France

 
 
 
 
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Thomas De Gendt believes this is probably his final Tour de France and says he is looking forward to taking a break. The Belgian breakaway expert has struggled to make a mark at this year’s race and explained that his best power numbers are only enough to get him dropped. 

De Gendt told Sporza he’ll be looking to do something different in 2022: “I don’t have much to look for here, someone else can do it for me next year. The last ascent in this Tour and perhaps my last mountain ever in the Tour. There is a very good chance that this was my last Tour. But Luz Ardiden is a nice climb to finish with.

“Next year someone else can try it in my place in the Tour. I haven’t been able to show anything this year and not last year either. I have very little to do here for myself, only as a servant. Then I can cope better.”

The Lotto-Soudal rider said he didn’t take enough rest during lockdown and has paid the price for riding four Grand Tours since last August. After the Tour of Norway in late August, De Gendt doesn’t see himself racing regularly again until next spring.

“It may not be bad to get off the bike for a few months and only start again in, for example, Paris-Nice. Most likely I will only ride the Tour of Norway this year and a few Belgian one-day races, if they are short of someone,” he continued.

The veteran’s Lotto-Soudal team-mate Brent Van Moer, who has been dubbed De Gendt’s protégé due to his breakaway expertise, is once again chasing a stage win and is in the front group of 18 riders who will compete for the day. They have 36km to go…

16 July 2021, 08:04

Matej Mohoric shushes the haters after soloing to second Tour de France stage

Victory salute… witness statement? 🤐 pic.twitter.com/Gn7h4dZNNk

— the Inner Ring (@inrng) July 16, 2021

Just one day after reports from France that Bahrain Victorious’ hotel and team bus were raided by police, Matej Mohoric tried to silence the critics with his second stage of the Tour de France.

 He had a message for the doubters too…”I was feeling like a criminal, with all the police that came to our hotel. From one point of view it’s a good thing, it means there is still control over the peloton, and they are checking all the teams. Of course they didn’t find anything, because we have nothing to hide. But from another point of view, I’m disappointed in the system because it’s not a nice thing when police walk into your room and search all your belongings.

“Even when you have nothing to hide, it feels a little bit weird. It never happened to me before. When they go through your personal photos, photos of your family, through your phone, through your messages, it feels a little…”

16 July 2021, 08:04

Team Sky reunion

Thought we’d get the band back together 🤣 #TDF2021 pic.twitter.com/COzAtR32XU

— Geraint Thomas (@GeraintThomas86) July 16, 2021

16 July 2021, 08:04

Reader comments and reaction: Police warn cyclist about speeding in Richmond Park

He was doing 24 mph. Please can I book that officer to sit outside my kids school where 24 mph would be my dream.

— Jo Rigby (@Jo_Earlsfield) July 16, 2021

Loads of reaction for the round-up from the Richmond Park story…Labour councillor Jo Rigby hoped the officer would take his speeding senses outside her kids’ school.

Over on Facebook, Sean Fullerton wrote: “I live adjacent to the Park and have ridden there since I got my first bike 50 years ago. I’m regularly overtaken by speeding motorists and also by trade vehicles yet I never heard of either of these offenders being fined. The Park should be closed to through traffic, end of!”

I’d be embarrassed to be one of the officers sitting in that van. What a waste of time.

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44 Comments

44 thoughts on “Police warn cyclist about speeding in Richmond Park; Jeremy Vine recruits another impatient driver to the Clown of the Day circus; LTN vandals pour oil over planters; Rapid Tour de France times; World’s longest solar bike path + more on the live blog”

  1. AlsoSomniloquism
    July 16, 2021 at 8:31 am
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    I don’t know about “just”

    I don’t know about “just” encroaching on the cycle box, he also managed to RLJ as he passed the first and second lines with his front wheels whilst the light was red. 

    I would also like to point out the Taxi driver who is on the wrong side of the road parked up half in the ASL but it is ok because the LTDA will have his back.

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  2. chunky
    July 16, 2021 at 8:40 am
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    Does this site aim to be the

    Does this site aim to be the Jeremy Vine show of the cycling world?

     

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      July 16, 2021 at 8:42 am
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      What does that mean? If you

      What does that mean? If you mean he posts lots of cycling content and this is a news and topic conglomeration blog, then yes he will appear alot. The same as Boardman, Cycling Mikey and unfortunately recently Nick “I will get drivers off but want cyclists penalised” Freeman.

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      • TheBillder
        July 16, 2021 at 9:17 am
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        AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

        …recently top lawyer Nick “I will get drivers off but want cyclists penalised” Freeman.

        — AlsoSomniloquism

        FTFY before Nigel / not Nigel gets here.

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        • brooksby
          July 16, 2021 at 11:02 am
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          TheBillder wrote:

          …recently top lawyer Nick “I will get drivers off but want cyclists penalised” Freeman.

          — TheBillder FTFY before Nigel / not Nigel gets here.— AlsoSomniloquism

          I think that they may have *flounced off. *been banned.

           

           

          *Delete as appropriate

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            July 16, 2021 at 3:26 pm
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            Changed his username again to

            Changed his username again to TTDanger. I expect because of the story of the lady getting hurt. I haven’t seen a post yet since the flounce though but considering that was due to someone doing “Misogynistic swearing that we are all applauding”, seems strange to then be celebrating a women being seriously injured. Unless of course an attention seeking troll already banned from the site once before…

          • Hirsute
            July 16, 2021 at 3:32 pm
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            Mods deleted some of the

            Mods deleted some of the posts in the A11 story in response to my complaint.

          • AlsoSomniloquism
            July 16, 2021 at 3:53 pm
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            Oh, luckily I missed those. 

            Oh, luckily I missed those. 

            Edit: I suspect they must have temporarily helped him on his way to finally fulfil the promise made yesterday. I wonder what his new username will be. Donut Frump?

      • Steve K
        July 16, 2021 at 9:54 am
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        AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

        Nick “I will get drivers off but want cyclists penalised” Freeman.

        — AlsoSomniloquism

        I still think the reality is he wants cyclists potentially penalised so he can increase his business trying to get them off too.

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        • Captain Badger
          July 16, 2021 at 10:14 am
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          Steve K wrote:

          he reality is he wants cyclists potentially penalised so he can increase his business trying to get them off too.

          — Steve K

          Nah. Any fule no that cyclists are paupers who can’t afford cars, let alone St Nicholas of Freeman’s services for Gentlemen of Quality….

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            July 16, 2021 at 10:50 am
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            My opinion is his “loophole”

            My opinion is his “loophole” record was being hit with all these cyclists suddenly becoming videographers and video evidence he couldn’t argue against. (Well he could but it didn’t work, probably because the judges were no longer star struck with his clients).

            So now he wants to punish all cyclists instead. 

    • hawkinspeter
      July 16, 2021 at 9:28 am
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      chunky wrote:

      Does this site aim to be the Jeremy Vine show of the cycling world?

      — chunky

      The “Live Blog” is picking up on various social media mentions of cycling as well as other news, so it’s going to feature Jeremy Vine a fair bit. You don’t have to bother reading those sections though if you’re not interested. I’m usually more intrigued by his 360 camera footage than his highlighting of poor driving (fish in a barrel and all that).

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      • brooksby
        July 16, 2021 at 12:54 pm
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        Does Jeremy Vine employ some

        Does Jeremy Vine employ some sort of videographer to add graphics’n’stuff to his clips, or does he spend his evenings poring over a laptop, developing RSI…?

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        • ktache
          July 16, 2021 at 1:06 pm
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          He did the graphics for his

          He did the graphics for his Channel 5 morning show.

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        • hawkinspeter
          July 16, 2021 at 1:10 pm
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          brooksby wrote:

          Does Jeremy Vine employ some sort of videographer to add graphics’n’stuff to his clips, or does he spend his evenings poring over a laptop, developing RSI…?

          — brooksby

          I like to think he has a third world factory filled with video editors working for a pittance

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            July 16, 2021 at 3:01 pm
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            So the normal Youtube editors

            So the normal Youtube editors working for the big “content creators”.

          • brooksby
            July 16, 2021 at 3:38 pm
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            AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

            So the normal Youtube editors working for the big “content creators”.

            — AlsoSomniloquism

            Oh, absolutely.  Vine has subcontracted his labelling to a rendering factory in a Russian prison 😉

  3. AlsoSomniloquism
    July 16, 2021 at 9:44 am
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    Now did they douse the

    Now did they douse the planters with oil thinking they could burn it and then realised that it didn’t burn.

    The treasurer from OneLambeth has stated it is an Art Installation from someone. It apparently represents the Pollution of the planet as oil and fossil fuels kills the plants. 

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    • brooksby
      July 16, 2021 at 11:04 am
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      I wondered if it was an art

      (edited) Read the comments before posting. Read the comments before posting.

      Aren’t OneLambeth the anti-LTN organisation, though?  I’m sure they’d try and explain away anything as “art” to try and avoid accusations that they’re just bunch of polluting NIMBYs.

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  4. OnYerBike
    July 16, 2021 at 11:00 am
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    I rarely condone law breaking

    I rarely condone law breaking, but it is frustrating to see such disproportionate policing – according to the recently published stats* a full 87% of cars exceed 20mph speed limits, with 54% exceeding them by >5mph. And yet we don’t see the police pulling over every other car.

    * https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/vehicle-speed-compliance-statistics-for-great-britain-2020/vehicle-speed-compliance-statistics-for-great-britain-2020 (I note there are various caveats about the 20mph data)

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    • GMBasix
      July 16, 2021 at 11:32 am
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      Disproportionate in so many

      Disproportionate in so many ways:

      • policing those less likely to be exceeding the limit;
      • policing those less likely to cause KSIs, and creating much less impact force;
      • policing those less likely to be polluting the park by exceeding the limit;
      • policing those who are not required to carry a speedometer and, if they do, not to have it callibrated to any specific degree of accuracy.

       

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  5. Hirsute
    July 16, 2021 at 11:07 am
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    I know it whataboutery but

    I know it whataboutery but seriously some one on a bike going 24 mph v a large vehicle going the same. If police are worried about dangers…

    Do those vans come equipped with radar speed detection?

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    • brooksby
      July 17, 2021 at 1:38 pm
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      Yeah, but ‘bike’, innit?

      Yeah, but ‘bike’, innit?

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  6. eburtthebike
    July 16, 2021 at 11:30 am
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    The police have a duty to

    The police have a duty to protect the public, but they must do it proportionately, and the risk from a cyclist travelling at 24mph is tiny compared to that of a car at the same speed.  I sincerely hope that the cyclist stopped will be reporting this discriminatory policing by that policeman, and forcing the Met to justify his behaviour, which of course they can’t; it’s blatant discrimination.

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    • brooksby
      July 16, 2021 at 11:35 am
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      Are the Royal Parks private

      Are the Royal Parks private land or not?  I mean – their trustees can pass all sorts of bylaws as if it’s private land, but then the police seem able to do their policing as if it’s public land…

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      • Steve K
        July 16, 2021 at 11:45 am
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        https://www.royalparks.org.uk

        https://www.royalparks.org.uk/managing-the-parks/policing-in-the-royal-parks 

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        • mikewood
          July 16, 2021 at 12:30 pm
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          Steve K wrote:

          https://www.royalparks.org.uk/managing-the-parks/policing-in-the-royal-parks 

          — Steve K

          Found this on that website

           

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          • Sriracha
            July 16, 2021 at 3:38 pm
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            So if there is no speed limit
            So if there is no speed limit regulation that applies to cyclists, and the met police are responsible for enforcing regulations, what exactly were they enforcing here?

            The cyclist was pulled over on blue lights – I presume the police need genuine grounds for suspicion of some actual, not imagined, infraction before they can do that. Or can they police according to their own prejudice?

          • wycombewheeler
            July 16, 2021 at 3:59 pm
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            Sriracha wrote:

            So if there is no speed limit regulation that applies to cyclists, and the met police are responsible for enforcing regulations, what exactly were they enforcing here? The cyclist was pulled over on blue lights – I presume the police need genuine grounds for suspicion of some actual, not imagined, infraction before they can do that. Or can they police according to their own prejudice?

            — Sriracha

            and yet this page

            https://www.parkcycle.co.uk/ride-planning/cycling-in-the-park.aspx

            states 

            “Penalty Notices may apply for not keeping to designated cycling routes or speeding.

            Please note that Police Officers are now able to issue Penalty Notices, which carry a £60 fine for a number of offences in the Royal Parks including failure to adhere to the designated cycle routes.”

            emphasis mine. Nothing like a consistent message to let people know where they stand. Has anyone submitted a FOI request about how many cyclists and how many drivers have been charged with speeding within the park?

          • Sriracha
            July 16, 2021 at 4:18 pm
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            I was referring to the source

            “Penalty Notices may apply for not keeping to designated cycling routes or speeding.

            — wycombewheeler

            I was referring to the source in [b]mikewood[/b]’s post stating that “Speed limits do not apply to cyclists within the parks…” See his post above.

            If there are no speed limits that apply to cyclists in the parks then how do they define “speeding” in the source you link to?

            Looking at your link, it’s just a Web page for general information. I suspect whoever wrote the text was misguided on that particular point. The word “speeding” is the giveaway, it is just vernacular – there is no actual regulation.

          • wycombewheeler
            July 16, 2021 at 4:13 pm
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            Sriracha wrote:

            I was referring to the source in [b]mikewood[/b]’s post stating that “Speed limits do not apply to cyclists within the parks…” See his post above. If there are no speed limits that apply to cyclists in the parks then how do they define “speeding” in the source you link to?

            — Sriracha

            this is the inconsistency in messaging on the various pages of the royal parks site that I was alluding to.

            If the royal parks can’t decide whether or not speed limits apply, what chance do cyclists have.

            And of course, there is this 

            https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-cyclist-fined-for-speeding-in-richmond-park-after-he-is-clocked-at-38mph-a3102191.html

            So the magistrates were convinced that speed limits do apply to cyclists within the royal park, even though the highway code makes clear that on the general highway they apply only to mechanical driven vehicles.

            Maybe cycling UK need to step up and get members acquited of all charges, like a certain organisation for taxi drivers.

          • wycombewheeler
            July 16, 2021 at 3:55 pm
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            mikewood wrote:

            Found this on that website

            — mikewood

            I’d like to tink the 8-12mph applies to off road cycle routes and not the roads.

            I’m sure drivers who use the park would not find cyclists taking the lane at 12mph to be acceptable.

          • Sriracha
            July 16, 2021 at 4:47 pm
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            wycombewheeler wrote:

            Found this on that website

            — wycombewheeler

            I’d like to tink the 8-12mph applies to off road cycle routes and not the roads.

            I’m sure drivers who use the park would not find cyclists taking the lane at 12mph to be acceptable.

            — mikewood

            Found it. The 8 – 12 mph speed is a reference specifically to shared use paths, and specifically [b]not[/b] to cyclists on the roads:

            [I]”The Royal Parks advocates a design speed for shared use paths of 8–12mph. For roads, design speeds should be appropriate for the designated speed limit. This will impact on the choice of surface material and the delineation of shared /segregated routes.”[/i]

            https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.royalparks.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/87197/Walking-and-Cycling-Technical-Design-Guidance-2016.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiT9aawgejxAhWFgP0HHdvMC2IQFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0y52Mavr2lK_mVj72BNnw-

          • brooksby
            July 16, 2021 at 4:59 pm
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            Well spotted!  Your google-fu

            Well spotted!  Your google-fu is strong, young (?) padawan.

            Am I the only one that’s beginning to think the RP just don’t want cyclists there and are just making it up as they go along…?

          • eburtthebike
            July 16, 2021 at 5:55 pm
            0

            brooksby wrote:

            Am I the only one that’s beginning to think the RP just don’t want cyclists there and are just making it up as they go along…?

            — brooksbyBeginning to think?  Do try to keep up.

          • brooksby
            July 17, 2021 at 1:37 pm
            0

            eburtthebike wrote:

            Am I the only one that’s beginning to think the RP just don’t want cyclists there and are just making it up as they go along…?

            — eburtthebike

            Beginning to think?  Do try to keep up.

            — brooksby

            I’m so sorry, Burt: youre quite right and i was clearly a bit off my game yesterday…

            🙂

          • pockstone
            July 16, 2021 at 4:11 pm
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            I know I could google and

            I know I could google and check but:- What ‘driving design speeds ‘ (whatever that may mean) have been found to be acceptable to other park users.

            Does a policy statement on Driving in the Royal Parks exist, and were cyclists (as ‘other park users’ ) consulted and asked for their ideas on acceptable speeds for motor vehicles?

            Edit:

            No thought not. Plenty of rules and policies about bikes and e-scooters, picnics, demos, scattering of ashes, religious celebrations, but precious little about what must be the biggest danger to life and limb in the park

          • Steve K
            July 16, 2021 at 4:27 pm
            0

            mikewood wrote:

            https://www.royalparks.org.uk/managing-the-parks/policing-in-the-royal-parks 

            — mikewood

            Found this on that website

             

            — Steve K

            The Royal Parks clearly have no idea what they think.  If you scroll down on this link, https://www.parkcycle.co.uk/about-richmond-park/royal-park-rules.aspx you will find it says “speed limits on the park roads apply to pedal cycles as well as other vehicles”.  It then has a link for “full details of parks regulations” and if you follow that you get to the policy statement which you posted, which says they don’t.  Clear as mud.

             

  7. Velophaart_95
    July 16, 2021 at 5:37 pm
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    It’s so depressing; police

    It’s so depressing; police stopping a cyclist supposedly ‘speeding’ in a Royal Park, yet plenty of motorists carry on without a care.

    And planters doused in oil in protest from the mouth frothing anti-LTN-ers……

    What a lovely country we live in……..

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  8. Rick_Rude
    July 16, 2021 at 9:11 pm
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    I thought you couldn’t be

    I thought you couldn’t be nicked for speeding on a bicycle as such, given that having a speedo isn’t a requirement? 

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    • Rendel Harris
      July 17, 2021 at 6:55 am
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      Rick_Rude wrote:

      I thought you couldn’t be nicked for speeding on a bicycle as such, given that having a speedo isn’t a requirement? 

      — Rick_Rude

      Special bylaw in the royal parks.

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  9. Muddy Ford
    July 17, 2021 at 5:25 am
    0

    I bet that copper was

    I bet that copper was thinking “all my friends in the van are going to be impressed with this” not realising he doesn’t have any friends.

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    July 18, 2021 at 7:57 pm
    0

    Jeremy doesn’t need to

    Jeremy doesn’t need to recruit any more clowns. He has enough on his radio show on radio 2. Jesus Jeremy, perhaps you need to leave the show gracefully because you have completely lost the plot with your current stories. Having half an hour dedicated to some barmpot wanting the word ‘women’ to be banned and replaced with ‘people with cervixes’, and ‘mothers’ replaced with ‘the menstruating parent’. Really? Or do I need to give my head a bloody good wobble?

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      July 18, 2021 at 11:30 pm
      0

      Well I didn’t hear the

      Well I didn’t hear the program but trans people who identify as male but hasn’t fully trans would still have a cervix. So when targetting people for Cervical Smears, is it discrimination to state a gender that is not the self identifying one? I suspect the same argument is also for Prostrate Cancer and targetting. So unless you want to ban gender reassignments etc, the head needs a wobble. 

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wtjs 10 hours ago

Yes, I can't wait: a duff BMC frame with a crap oval BB, and carbon rims set up tubeless and without a pressure -relief hole so you can pressurise the cavity and which would likely (to complete the disaster waiting to happen) be hookless/ mini-hook and explode with no notice

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60somethingcyclist 11 hours ago

About time they got more of them out of cars and onto bikes. Do their fitness levels some good.

in: Concerns for vulnerable road users as Met disbands specialist cycle and motorcycle safety units
wtjs 11 hours ago

I cannot tell if they relate to my report or someone else’s Yes, that's the point - the aim of the pseudo - database is to shut the punters up and deceive them about how little the police have done. They know the deception scheme has been successful when people report on here that they have achieved successful outcomes from most of their reports. They haven't.

in: Police receive record number of camera submissions in 2025… most of them from cyclists (again)
60somethingcyclist 11 hours ago

Mayor Adams perverted a lot of laws, hence the fact that he is no longer Mayor. New York cyclists have had an ongoing problem with members of the ultra-orthodox Satmar Jewish community in Williamsburg. They don't like people in cycle shorts and skimpy tops cycling through the neighbourhood. They used their political influence to get a cycle lane removed from a local highway. There was talk of a naked bike ride through the area but I think wiser counsels prevailed.

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60somethingcyclist 12 hours ago

This is disgusting. Cycling is for everyone; no-one should feel intimidated out of the hobby. The kind of "men" who think it's ok to harass women would think twice about doing it to a man. If we are going to persuade large numbers of motorists to become cyclists then the issue of harassment has to be addressed.

in: Abuse and harassment continuing to deter women from cycling, as campaigners launch new “safety audit”
chrisonabike 13 hours ago

I've a memory the poster may be Edinburgh-adjacent (is that right?) - in which case it *may* be possible as the shared use paths (former railways) (plus a bit of more recent infra) can allow you to do this. Highly dependent on your journey though. That's not the case most places in NL. There you may be using motor-traffic-reduced and slowed *streets* there but most roads have alternatives. But here in the north-west I can cycle for several miles in a couple of directions using them. Of course if I needed to eg. go east-west in the south of the city it's back to more usual UK conditions...

in: “Driving a bus is difficult enough”: Bus drivers’ union says mandatory hi-vis jackets for cyclists would “make roads a safer place” and hits out at “poor visibility” of people on bikes
chrisonabike 13 hours ago

According to the website as seen on my mobile this is an outstanding deal - the price in the box at the top by the weight etc. is showing as £0.00 ! (sorry due to site redesign I can't post a screenshot - besides I'm ignoring the price points which *are* quoted later in the article and am off to claim my free machine...)

in: BMC Roadmachine 01 Three
chrisonabike 13 hours ago

Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Then ... it will be easy to see that in the casualty numbers, no? And (albeit this is looking a decade back) indeed you can *see* the truth! https://robertweetman.wordpress.com/2017/09/29/a-year-of-death-and-injury-2016/ Do you mean is "we are used to *looking for the cars*" (or even "looking with our ears" - which is real) and thus cyclists are often surprising? Or is it "cyclists are in or space, we know that motorists are only on the roads"? * But ... it is true that cyclists are a bit less visible and quieter than motorists. And it is true that some cyclists don't make efforts to be visible. And indeed some are too relaxed about cycling in accordance with the law. The latter points are not good ... but then the damage caused by cyclists in a collision is on average much less than a with a motor vehicle. And while people often think that motorists are more likely to be motivated to obey the law because of legal consequences (because eg. "They've got number plates") that it's debatable. Unlike cyclists motorists aren't going to be motivated to proceed carefully because of worries about being injured or killed in a collision with a pedestrian... * Excluding all those motorists who reach year kill more people on the footways than cyclists do altogether...

in: “Driving a bus is difficult enough”: Bus drivers’ union says mandatory hi-vis jackets for cyclists would “make roads a safer place” and hits out at “poor visibility” of people on bikes
Benthic 13 hours ago

The cross checking is limited but I do have the matching data fields on my own records which correspond with the police's data fields: 'Offence Date', Offending Vehicle Type', 'Reporter' ('Cyclist' for me), 'Location Town or City', 'Primary Offence'. If that isn't replicated in the database for an incident I have reported it tells me something is wrong with the database. If I have reported an incident and there are several matching possibilities then, yes, I cannot tell if they relate to my report or someone else's.

in: Police receive record number of camera submissions in 2025… most of them from cyclists (again)

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