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Bonkers Buckaroo bikepacking set-up; Yves Lampaert spotted riding mountain bike with panniers home from national TT win; Jeremy Vine’s ‘Clown of the Day’; Could the Tour de France be returning to London?; Count the commuters + more on the live blog

Dan Alexander will be taking you through Thursday with all your updates from the cycling world on the live blog
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Jun 17, 2021 08:00
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  • Jeremy Vine spots 'Clown of the Day' using phone while driving without hands on the wheel
  • Sadiq Khan wants to bring Tour de France back to London...once wounds of Boris Johnson's 2015 comments have healed
  • Count the cyclists
  • Largest GPS drawing by bicycle record holder sets new target of riding between all 20 Premier League clubs during the Euros
  • We're saying nothing...
  • Tom Dumoulin marks return with fourth Dutch national time trial championship
  • Reaction to Transport for London's successful appeal against Streetspace ruling
  • Bonkers Buckaroo bikepacking set-up...starring obligatory aero bars
  • How do you celebrate becoming Belgian national TT champion? If you're Yves Lampaert you ride home on a city bike with panniers
  • Primož Roglič insists he is not the favourite for the Tour de France
  • Zwift confirmed as presenting partner of Tour de France Femmes
  • Rohan Dennis jumping ship from Ineos Grenadiers to ride for rivals Jumbo-Visma, according to Dutch media report
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17 June 2021, 08:00

Jeremy Vine spots 'Clown of the Day' using phone while driving without hands on the wheel

Clown Of The Day: this young smartphone user looks like he’s pretty good at driving without touching the steering wheel, but because this is Kensington High Street, where @RBKC has removed all protection for cyclists, sadly my footage must go to the police. pic.twitter.com/LGj6kSduv6

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) June 17, 2021

‘Clown of the Day’ with Jeremy Vine…I’m sensing the start of a new series. Riding down Kensington High Street, Vine’s nifty 360-degree camera spots this driver completely oblivious to the presenter. The motorist doesn’t have either hand on the wheel and continues to scroll his phone as he rolls forward with the traffic.

Despite the BMW driver’s protestations, Vine tells him: “I’m going to have to report you I’m really sorry. Why should I have to share the road with somebody as dangerous as you? You’re not even putting your hands on the steering wheel.”

I guess it would be nice if Kensington High Street had a protected cycle route for riders to avoid having to filter through traffic past distracted drivers…Oh, that would be the one Boris Johnson was said to be ‘ballistic’ after it was been ripped out last December.

Who is going to be the next clown in Jeremy Vine’s circus?

17 June 2021, 08:00

Sadiq Khan wants to bring Tour de France back to London...once wounds of Boris Johnson's 2015 comments have healed

Tour de France 2014 Cambridge-London break (source L'Etape London)
Tour de France 2014 Cambridge-London break (source L'Etape London) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France 2014 Cambridge-London break (source L'Etape London)
Tour de France 2014 Cambridge-London break (source L'Etape London) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Sadiq Khan hopes to bring the Tour de France back to London for the first time since stage three of the 2014 edition (pictured above). During his re-election campaign the Mayor of London pledged to push for the Olympics back in the capital in 2036 or 2040 and the Evening Standard reports Khan is eager to host Tour de France stages too.

Khan admitted that bridges may have to be rebuilt after Boris Johnson’s decision to pull out of hosting the 2017 Grand Depart, saying it’s “not worth it”. Johnson insisted the money would be better spent on cycling infrastructure and should not be “wasted” on something that “would only deliver very brief benefits”. 

Some even suggested that the 2017 route was designed to troll the now PM over Brexit by passing through four of the six countries that signed the Treaty of Rome in 1957, founding the European Economic Community (EEC), the predecessor of the European Union (EU). Niche.

17 June 2021, 08:00

Count the cyclists

In 9 seconds of video, count the people cycling along the #CS3 #Embankment cycle track and compare to the number of motorised vehicles using the other 4 lanes.
Which is the more efficient use of space? pic.twitter.com/7tUBScsVVE

— always last (@lastnotlost) June 15, 2021

I’m going for 11…but there was definitely another group of riders coming into the very blurry shot at the end of the video… 

17 June 2021, 08:00

Largest GPS drawing by bicycle record holder sets new target of riding between all 20 Premier League clubs during the Euros

Gordon Miller Ride for Freedom.png
Gordon Miller Ride for Freedom (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Gordon Miller Ride for Freedom.png
Gordon Miller Ride for Freedom (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Most of us are enjoying the Euros by setting up camp on the sofa and enjoying a few cold ones…Gordon Miller will be putting in some big miles on the bike for an excellent cause. Riding between every Premier League ground between 27 June and 11 July, Gordon is hoping to shine a light on modern slavery, specifically child trafficking in sport.

Starting at Wembley, Gordon will be visiting all 20 top-flight stadiums in time for the final of the Euros and must be ruing Norwich’s promotion. A mammoth ride but it’s not his first epic cycle challenge…last year he set the Guinness World Record for the largest GPS drawing by bicycle by riding 620.5 miles (998.7km) around England to spell out the message ‘end modern slavery’. 

You can find all the details on the Ride for Freedom website…

17 June 2021, 08:00

We're saying nothing...

Even the Pope isn’t into disc brakes. https://t.co/6Yjg5POTvD

— Xylon van Eyck (@XylonVE) June 16, 2021

If you missed yesterday’s big story about Egan Bernal visiting the Pope with a brand new Pinarello Dogma and maglia rosa, check it out here. 

17 June 2021, 08:00

Tom Dumoulin marks return with fourth Dutch national time trial championship

4th Dutch TT title🇳🇱🥇 pic.twitter.com/fBeRr47u22

— Tom Dumoulin (@tom_dumoulin) June 16, 2021

After an extended break from the sport Tom Dumoulin is back near the top of the world in TTs. Dumoulin yesterday won his fourth national championship in the discipline, beating Sebastian Langeveld and teammate Koen Bouwmann. 

“In the second part the heat started to play a role. My legs became slightly tired. It was hard work,” Dumoulin said. “But I have recovered well after a week of racing in Switzerland. I rode a very good time trial. If I had ridden this time trial a few years ago, I would have been very happy too. I am close to my good form. In Switzerland it went a little bit better every day. I started to like racing more and more. I have continued that feeling. I am very happy with the title today. This is really a victory over myself.”

The win will be a confidence boost ahead of his main goal of the year at the Tokyo Olympics where the Jumbo-Visma rider will look to add a gold medal to his world title from 2017. Elsewhere, Aleksandr Vlasov, Emma Norsgaard, Stefan Küng and Rein Taaramäe all won their respective country’s TT championship. 

17 June 2021, 08:00

Reaction to Transport for London's successful appeal against Streetspace ruling

Good news for all those seeking to make our streets safe for walking and cycling @TfL https://t.co/36mW4D9eR2

— Ruth Cadbury MP 💙 (@RuthCadbury) June 17, 2021

Yesterday’s Court of Appeal decision against a ruling from the High Court that Streetspace active travel initiatives were unlawful was greeted warmly by active travel proponents…

Jeremy Vine called it a “massive moment for cycling in London”. Saying, “if confirmed, the Bishopsgate judgement means more protection for vulnerable road users and less chance of ‘professional’ drivers pretending they need access to all roads for all customers.”

This is such good news. Massive thanks too all those @TfL and our legal team who ensured that common sense prevailed. https://t.co/nwlgH1Y9hu

— Heidi Alexander (@Heidi_LDN) June 17, 2021

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan said the decision “is a vindication of our policies”. He continued: “Our world-leading Streetspace schemes are helping protect the health of Londoners, and this decision reinforces my determination to make it safer and easier for Londoners to walk and cycle, and to help ensure a green and sustainable recovery from the pandemic.”

17 June 2021, 08:00

Bonkers Buckaroo bikepacking set-up...starring obligatory aero bars

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by MASON Cycles (@mason_cycles)

We need answers. Can Rob even use those aero bars or are they merely there to mount everything around? It doesn’t look very…well, aero…but we’re guessing that’s not the point. He’s been on the road for a month now, riding more than 2,000 miles from Bournemouth to Land’s End to John O’ Groats and back again on his Mason Cycles Bokeh GRX and has probably broken a record for most stuff carried in the process.

For a proper look at bikepacking, and what kit we’d recommend, head over to our friends at off-road.cc where they’ve got a complete guide with everything you need to know when preparing for a two-wheeled adventure…

We’ve also got a round-up of 26 of the best bikepacking bags so you don’t have copy Rob’s unique set-up…unless you want to, of course…

17 June 2021, 08:00

How do you celebrate becoming Belgian national TT champion? If you're Yves Lampaert you ride home on a city bike with panniers

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Linde Merckpoel (@lindemerckpoel)

Yves Lampaert needs to give Rob some advice on panniers. In true Belgian style the Deceuninck-Quick-Step rider returned home from his second national TT championship win on a humble steed without any of his flash team kit. The video shared on Instagram shows the 30-year-old being cheered on by the people in the car behind as he basks in the glory of his win.

Lampaert isn’t quite at the 50.3km/h average speed that won him his title but he finds the time to give a victory salute. On a similar note, last week Team GB track star Laura Kenny hitched a lift to the velodrome on a cargo pulled by fellow serial gold medal winner and husband Jason Kenny.

17 June 2021, 08:00

Primož Roglič insists he is not the favourite for the Tour de France

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Primoz Roglic (@primozroglic)

Primož Roglič has distanced himself from the favourite’s tag ahead of the Tour de France Grand Depart next Saturday. Roglič suggested there will be more competition than simply just himself and Slovenian compatriot Tadej Pogačar in the fight for yellow.

“I wouldn’t even place myself, I don’t consider myself as so big a favourite,” Roglič told RMC Sport. “I’m not the defending champion. At the end, I didn’t race for a while. I will just go there and in the end we have to see how it goes. There are lots of guys who are super strong that are capable of winning. It’s not just a fight between me and Tadej. You have twenty other guys and I think all the race is just bigger than we are, so we definitely just need to go there, do our best with our guys. And in the end, we’ll see what that means with the result.”

17 June 2021, 08:00

Zwift confirmed as presenting partner of Tour de France Femmes

The inaugural edition of the women’s Tour de France will start on Sunday 24 July 2022 with Zwift on-board as a presenting partner. The Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift will begin in Paris on the Champs-Élysées and is the biggest step in creating an equal competition for female riders running alongside the biggest event in the men’s calendar. Zwift founder Eric Min explained why he was so keen to be involved: “This is an incredibly important announcement for us as we look to build on our investment in women’s cycling and really help grow and develop the sport. Together we can bring women’s cycling to a larger audience and inspire new generations of female cyclists for years to come.”

Zwift has signed a deal to be involved for four years with the event which will see female riders compete for the yellow jersey over eight stages with full TV coverage.

17 June 2021, 08:00

Rohan Dennis jumping ship from Ineos Grenadiers to ride for rivals Jumbo-Visma, according to Dutch media report

Rohan Dennis (Eurosport)
Rohan Dennis (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Rohan Dennis (Eurosport)
Rohan Dennis (Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Some slightly surprising transfer news to wrap up Thursday. Rohan Dennis is heading to Jumbo-Visma, according to Dutch outlet Wielerflits. The two-time world time trial champion has impressed since signing for Ineos, adapting to his new role as a super domestique following a controversial ending to his time with the team now known as Bahrain Victorious.

Media reports suggest that despite having the option to sign a new deal with Ineos or link up with his former sports director from BMC, Allan Peiper, at UAE Team Emirates, Dennis has decided to sign for GC rivals Jumbo-Visma. The Dutch team reportedly sees the Aussie as the heir to Tony Martin’s vital role within their Grand Tour unit. It will be interesting to see if Dennis makes an appearance when Ineos reveal their Tour team in the coming week…

17 June 2021, 08:00

Video: Cyclist and driver in huge road rage row in Toronto

Video: Cyclist and driver in huge road rage row in Toronto

It’s not clear what sparked incident … but wow did it escalate quickly

17 June 2021, 08:00

Councillor claims planned Surrey Bike Park could attract child molesters

Councillor claims planned Surrey Bike Park could attract child molesters

Remarks made in meeting about private company taking over BMX track at Ranmore Common

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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  1. David9694
    June 17, 2021 at 8:12 am
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    You know how dogs seem to

    You know how dogs seem to like to stick their head out of a moving car? my clown of yesterday had his King Charles sticking out of the driver’s window. 

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    • brooksby
      June 17, 2021 at 8:41 am
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      David9694 wrote:

      You know how dogs seem to like to stick their head out of a moving car? my clown of yesterday had his King Charles sticking out of the driver’s window. 

      — David9694

      Is that a euphemism?

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      • the little onion
        June 17, 2021 at 8:48 am
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        King Charles is like a Prince

        King Charles is like a Prince Albert, only with two big floppy things on either side.

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      • Secret_squirrel
        June 17, 2021 at 8:48 am
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        Only if his Prince Albert was

        Only if his Prince Albert was with him too.

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  2. Jenova20
    June 17, 2021 at 8:33 am
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    It’s really too bad they took

    It’s really too bad they took out that cycling lane to put in a taxi parking bay. Let’s hope they reverse course in the near future.

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  3. peted76
    June 17, 2021 at 8:43 am
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    It’s almost a shame that

    It’s almost a shame that citizens aren’t financially incentivised to catch eejits like that car driver, in particular on to catch people on their phones. If there was an incentive, those 360 degree cameras could earn someone a living. I’m thinking, easy nationwide reporting system, £200 fines per infringment, £10 in the pocket of the person reporting it. 

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    • Jenova20
      June 17, 2021 at 10:03 am
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      peted76 wrote:

      It’s almost a shame that citizens aren’t financially incentivised to catch eejits like that car driver, in particular on to catch people on their phones. If there was an incentive, those 360 degree cameras could earn someone a living. I’m thinking, easy nationwide reporting system, £200 fines per infringment, £10 in the pocket of the person reporting it. 

      — peted76

      I like this idea. It would be a great idea for illegal parking too, and a great way for people to make some extra cash.

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      • Darren Hunt
        June 17, 2021 at 11:07 am
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        I could literaly shop my

        I could literaly shop my neighbour every week for illegally parking on the pavement and too close to a junction, that could fund my bike habit! 😉

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    • Mary Willoughby
      June 17, 2021 at 10:34 am
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      I think the Satsi operated a

      I think the Satsi operated a similar regime whereby people were incentivised to report on the failings of other citizens to the authorities.

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      • Captain Badger
        June 17, 2021 at 10:46 am
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        Mary Willoughby wrote:

        I think the Satsi operated a similar regime whereby people were incentivised to report on the failings of other citizens to the authorities.

        — Mary Willoughby

        Quite. I have incentive enough with trying to get these idiots noticed by the cops. I don’t need a bung to do this.

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      • brooksby
        June 17, 2021 at 11:15 am
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        Mary Willoughby wrote:

        I think the Stasi operated a similar regime whereby people were incentivised to report on the failings of other citizens to the authorities.

        — Mary Willoughby

        I wonder whether it fixed their pavement-parking problem?

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      • Jetmans Dad
        June 17, 2021 at 11:18 am
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        Mary Willoughby wrote:

        I think the Satsi operated a similar regime whereby people were incentivised to report on the failings of other citizens to the authorities.

        — Mary Willoughby

        For a start, it is Stasi (not Satsi, which sounds way cuter), and for another thing, the Stasi wasn’t looking to incentivise citizens to report things that were objectively dangerous and specifically prohibited by law. 

        I really hate this attitude that attempting to be a reponsible citizen and report those showing contempt for the law is somehow emulating the Nazis. There is a lengthy sliding scale between “completely ignoring everything anyone else does” and “reporting someone to the authorities for every little failing”. 

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        • Mary Willoughby
          June 17, 2021 at 11:48 am
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          For a start, you may have

          For a start, you may have overlooked that the significance of the “proposal” being mooted is for citizens to be PAID for provide information to the Police, that’s clearly not the same as citizens simply reporting criminality. Most people seem capable of differentiating between the two.  And for another thing, apologies for the earlier typo.

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            June 17, 2021 at 11:53 am
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            So rewards shouldn’t be

            So rewards shouldn’t be offered for info leading to apprehensions?

            So this is where all the stasi went to then.
            ​https://crimestoppers-uk.org/give-information/rewards-for-information

      • AlsoSomniloquism
        June 17, 2021 at 11:34 am
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        There are alot of people in

        There are alot of people in the twitter replies equating Vine as a grasser or snitch with one mentioning something saimilar about Eastern Europe and secret police. I must mention it to my wife that she is a snitch or a grasser or a supporter of Old Communist Policies when she helped to stop a robbery in a bank and then completed a witness statement to the Police, following up by testifying in court.

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        • Mary Willoughby
          June 17, 2021 at 12:27 pm
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          AlsoSomniloquism: The

          AlsoSomniloquism: The proposal being mooted was for citizens to be PAID to provide information to the Police. I’m disappointed when people seem unable to differentiate between this and the simple reporting of criminality.  I’m not sure why you even make the suggestion that anyone has claimed your wife did anything other than the right thing. 

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          • Jetmans Dad
            June 17, 2021 at 12:43 pm
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            Mary Willoughby wrote:

            AlsoSomniloquism: The proposal being mooted was for citizens to be PAID to provide information to the Police. I’m disappointed when people seem unable to differentiate between this and the simple reporting of criminality.  I’m not sure why you even make the suggestion that anyone has claimed your wife did anything other than the right thing. 

            — Mary Willoughby

            There is a long history in this country of financial rewards being offered for information pertaining to criminal activity, without the East German secret police being invoked in response. 

      • OnYerBike
        June 17, 2021 at 11:45 am
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        Looks like Godwin’s Law is in

        Looks like Godwin’s Law is in effect…

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        • Mary Willoughby
          June 17, 2021 at 12:36 pm
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          Too true, if only I wasn’t so

          Too true, if only I wasn’t so naive, though they may have to expand the definition to incorporate other organisations.

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      • Hirsute
        June 17, 2021 at 12:11 pm
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        https://www.gazette-news.co
        https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19376677.colchester-residents-hit-drivers-parking-zig-zags/

        Parked within the zigzags of a zebra crossing.
        I’m all for stasi like reporting of selfish ignorant twats like this.

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        • Captain Badger
          June 17, 2021 at 12:34 pm
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          hirsute wrote:

          https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19376677.colchester-residents-hit-drivers-parking-zig-zags/ Parked within the zigzags of a zebra crossing. I’m all for stasi like reporting of selfish ignorant twats like this.

          — hirsute

          No, I’m just fine with reporting. Stasi style is unnecessary.

           

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          June 17, 2021 at 2:04 pm
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          hirsute wrote:

          https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19376677.colchester-residents-hit-drivers-parking-zig-zags/ Parked within the zigzags of a zebra crossing. I’m all for stasi like reporting of selfish ignorant twats like this.

          — hirsute

          That is a common occurence here as getting a Greggs is more important then road safety. Sometimes they will stop and park before the lights or even pull in and totally block the crossing when there are busy times. 

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    • nikkispoke
      June 17, 2021 at 1:58 pm
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      I dislike to say this, but

      I dislike to say this, but gaining action by the relevant authorities when  reporting offences such as illegal or dangerous parking or driving offences would be sufficent without any additional inducement.

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      • ChasP
        June 17, 2021 at 2:55 pm
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        I think the point is if they

        I think the point is if they are willing to pay for information they are interested enough to actually do something about it rather than ignore it…

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    • HoarseMann
      June 17, 2021 at 7:54 pm
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      peted76 wrote:

      £10 in the pocket of the person reporting it. 

      — peted76

      I’d be happy to pay £10 to get some justice dished out!

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  4. peted76
    June 17, 2021 at 9:00 am
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    It’d be great to have the

    It’d be great to have the Tour back in Blighty… A prologue time trial in London past some landmarks and then a stage showcasing some of our rolling countryside.

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  5. Awavey
    June 17, 2021 at 9:19 am
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    Boris had a point, for a
    Boris had a point, for a minimum outlay of 1million quid, that money could be better spent on longer term cycling goals. For all the boosting & flattering of egos hosting a Tour stage/Grand depart imparts, it’s very short lived affair, does Yorkshire feel any of the warm glow of hosting Le Tour anymore ? has London even forgotten it hosted a stage finish just 7 years ago?

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    • Inspector Kevin Smith SYP
      June 17, 2021 at 9:46 am
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      Awavey wrote:

      . For all the boosting & flattering of egos hosting a Tour stage/Grand depart imparts, it’s very short lived affair, does Yorkshire feel any of the warm glow of hosting Le Tour anymore ?

      — Awavey

       

      Hell yeah. Also we have (hopefully) the TdY as a legacy event and had the Worlds. Massive contributions to cycling take up and interest in competitive cycling across Yorkshire. I always love coming across the Belgians and Dutch who come over to watch and ride. 
       

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    • hawkinspeter
      June 17, 2021 at 10:25 am
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      Awavey wrote:

      Boris had a point, for a minimum outlay of 1million quid, that money could be better spent on longer term cycling goals. For all the boosting & flattering of egos hosting a Tour stage/Grand depart imparts, it’s very short lived affair, does Yorkshire feel any of the warm glow of hosting Le Tour anymore ? has London even forgotten it hosted a stage finish just 7 years ago?

      — Awavey

      Why not both?

      Hosting a stage is more of a tourism thing whereas cycling infrastructure is more in line with “levelling up” the country in terms of improving mass transit and public health.

      I don’t even know why one is being compared to another – there’s little discussion of professional motorsport events when roads are being planned/built/repaired.

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      • Awavey
        June 17, 2021 at 10:24 am
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        Well sure you could spend on
        Well sure you could spend on both but then its costing you twice as much to do something and it would be nice for politicians for once to consider its public money they spend.

        As for the tourism angle, London is already one of the worlds top tourist destinations, it was (pre covid) literally like the 2nd most visited city in the world, more than half of overseas visitors trips to the UK,visit London. It really doesnt struggle to attract tourists by not hosting one off sporting events and its actually a gigantic gravity well for the rest of the UKs tourism industry because it’s much harder to get those same tourists out of London to travel & visit the rest of UK as a result.

        If the UK were to host TdF again it would be better to pick anywhere but London imo, but rest of UK doesnt get millions of pounds in promo budgets to spend so it wont happen.

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        • hawkinspeter
          June 17, 2021 at 10:27 am
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          Awavey wrote:

          Well sure you could spend on both but then its costing you twice as much to do something and it would be nice for politicians for once to consider its public money they spend. As for the tourism angle, London is already one of the worlds top tourist destinations, it was (pre covid) literally like the 2nd most visited city in the world, more than half of overseas visitors trips to the UK,visit London. It really doesnt struggle to attract tourists by not hosting one off sporting events and its actually a gigantic gravity well for the rest of the UKs tourism industry because it’s much harder to get those same tourists out of London to travel & visit the rest of UK as a result. If the UK were to host TdF again it would be better to pick anywhere but London imo, but rest of UK doesnt get millions of pounds in promo budgets to spend so it wont happen.

          — Awavey

          I’m pretty sure that some of the extra money we’ve saved from Brexit could be used to finance it.

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          • ChrisB200SX
            June 17, 2021 at 11:01 am
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            I’m pretty sure that some of the extra money we’ve saved from Brexit could be used to finance it.

            — hawkinspeter

            £350,000,000 per week should cover it?

          • Captain Badger
            June 17, 2021 at 12:44 pm
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            ChrisB200SX wrote:

            I’m pretty sure that some of the extra money we’ve saved from Brexit could be used to finance it.

            — ChrisB200SX

            £350,000,000 per week should cover it?

            — hawkinspeter

            Nah, the NHS has earmarked that…. greedy bastards.

        • HarrogateSpa
          June 17, 2021 at 1:28 pm
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          From a tourism angle, we

          From a tourism angle, we could try not being deeply unpleasant and untrustworthy in our dealings with the European countries just across the Channel.

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          • Flintshire Boy
            June 18, 2021 at 7:05 am
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            Pot.
             
            Kettle.
             
            Get over it!

            Pot.

             

            Kettle.

             

            Get over it!

    • ChrisB200SX
      June 17, 2021 at 10:59 am
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      Awavey wrote:

      Boris had a point, for a minimum outlay of 1million quid, that money could be better spent on longer term cycling goals. For all the boosting & flattering of egos hosting a Tour stage/Grand depart imparts, it’s very short lived affair, does Yorkshire feel any of the warm glow of hosting Le Tour anymore ? has London even forgotten it hosted a stage finish just 7 years ago?

      — Awavey

      It doesn’t have to be either/or, it’s also not  huge amount of money, probably a loss-leader overall.

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  6. Velophaart_95
    June 17, 2021 at 9:56 am
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    I’d be more impressed if he

    I’d be more impressed if he made a bid for the Giro, or even the Vuelta…..the Tour has been here before; and in London before….

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    • Awavey
      June 17, 2021 at 5:41 pm
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      it would make more sense and

      it would make more sense and probably stand more chance, but then you cant blame Boris for upsetting the organisers of those yet…interesting also to note in the same interview Khan talks flying in parts of the Indian premier league cricket tournament to play in London and is already being in discussions for London to host a Formula 1 race,possibly as early as 2023.

      not quite sure how any of that sits with a walking,cycling green recovery strategy maybe the teams will pay a congestion charge per lap or something, but it does earn more points in the Burson Cohn & Wolfe annual ranking of sporting cities survey, that London lost its top ranking to New York in, and which identifies as its key survey learnings that hosting major global sports events like F1 or the Olympics boosts your ranking.

      apparently even just talking about hosting them boosts it too…

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  7. G-bitch
    June 17, 2021 at 11:53 am
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    Re. buckaroo bike packing. 

    Re. buckaroo bike packing.  Off-road touring aside… can all road.cc readers please just pledge to share some honest and straightforward luggage advice with anyone they speak to pondering some two-wheeled travel?  If it’s on road, and it’s not racing, panniers might be a good option. I fear there are some poor sods out there spending enormous sums on bikepacking bags and ending up with that sort of set-up and associated issues when it may not be necessary. Or worse… just facing the indignity of a cycle tour without enough room to stash a BFO bottle of beer/wine/buckie and a giant bar of chocolate when you know there’s no shop options after finding a spot to pitch up.

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    • HoarseMann
      June 17, 2021 at 1:24 pm
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      I must admit to thinking that

      I must admit to thinking that was a good advert for racks/panniers and butterfly bars. But I quickly told myself off!

      Fair play to him – he’s out there doing it, which is more than I can say. Plus there’s quite a bit of dust on the bike, a hint that perhaps it’s seen a fair bit of off-road riding.

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      • G-bitch
        June 17, 2021 at 3:10 pm
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        Yes, clearly getting some off

        Yes, clearly getting some off-roading in there – I think I’m just genuinely a little perplexed at how the majority of cycle-touring content on instagram/twitter is ‘bikepacking’ led – someone show me a fairlight with racks!  As a died in the wool tourist though, it’s fabulous that more people are seeing the light, however the load is carried!    

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        • Hirsute
          June 17, 2021 at 8:53 pm
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          Sorry to read of your
          Sorry to read of your untimely death.

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          • brooksby
            June 18, 2021 at 9:42 am
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            hirsute wrote:

            Sorry to read of your untimely death.

            — hirsute

            That wool can be pretty dangerous, I hear…

          • Captain Badger
            June 18, 2021 at 10:49 am
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            brooksby wrote:

            …..

            That wool can be pretty dangerous, I hear…

            — brooksby

            There’s a real risk of being fleeced

    • andystow
      June 17, 2021 at 1:41 pm
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      I’ve settled on a Tubus front

      I’ve settled on a Tubus front rack with a pannier on one side, and my tent and sleeping pad lashed to the other. I also have a front rando style bag. I’m considering a tail or frame bag and downsizing that huge left pannier. I like front heavy better than tail heavy, but this is a bit too front heavy.

      I do have extra room to carry a 6 pack to camp.

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  8. gazza_d
    June 17, 2021 at 12:26 pm
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    Le Tour can spend a day

    Le Tour can spend a day sightseeing in London on it’s way back to France when it’s been back to Yorkhire. 

    TdY has had 2 years out due to the pandemic, but that and the Worlds were huge and TdY will be when it returns 

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  9. eburtthebike
    June 17, 2021 at 1:17 pm
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    Now I understand why so many

    Now I understand why so many people are terrified of clowns.

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  10. Steve K
    June 17, 2021 at 2:11 pm
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    Excellent idea from Mr Miller

    Excellent idea from Mr Miller and a very important cause.  All I can say from personal experience, however, is that cycling to every Premier League ground is a lot harder when you have to watch Crystal Palace play when you get there…

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  11. wtjs
    June 17, 2021 at 3:04 pm
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    Vine is certainly performing

    Vine is certainly performing a valuable service to the public, but it’s unfortunate that he felt he had to apologise to the driver for reporting him to the police. This implies that Vine had something to apologise for, and slightly opens the door for the nutter social media comments about the Stasi. He should have been even more pleased to be a means of a BMW driver getting his just desserts, which seems likely to happen in London. I wonder if Vine’s celebrity status would have prevented Lancashire Constabulary’s reflex action of filing video reports of traffic offences straight in the bin.

    I went to a Magistrates’ Court for the first time on Monday- I felt slightly guilty about being present for a preceding case in which I had no interest, but I soon perked up on hearing that it was a typical BMW driver chalking up an increase from 6 speeding points to 9. Sadly, it wasn’t the jackpot- I would have enjoyed being present for that. Let’s see how I do with this one.

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  12. ChrisB200SX
    June 17, 2021 at 4:13 pm
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    When I had a (slightly older)

    When I had a (slightly older) BMW i3, I managed to have a two hour text message chat with my brother through the car’s voice control without once touching the phone or looking at a screen.
    So that idiot didn’t even need the phone in his hand!

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  13. brooksby
    June 18, 2021 at 9:41 am
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    Bonkers Buckaroo bikepacking set-up

    Oh – the game! <slaps forehead>

    I thought you meant they had an Oscillation Overthruster mounted on their bike…

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Sredlums 1 hour ago

@Rendel Harris You know damn well what I mean, Rendel. The bikes here are just a nice angle to make their point about how tech has changed over the years. They could have easily used two other bikes for exactly the same purpose. They chose these because they already had an article that looked at the old bike in depth, and because Seixas' bike is new. You keep cherry-picking, to try to win this silly argument on semantics, but the intro actually says it quite clearly: "We compare Jaan Kirsipuu’s early-2000s AG2R race bike with Paul Seixas’ latest machine TO CHART A QUARTER OF A CENTURY OF TECH PROGRESS". The article is not ABOUT these bikes, it USES these bikes to illustrate that tech progress, hence, the article is about that tech progress.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Rendel Harris 2 hours ago

@Sreedlums That's hilarious, the article is literally about two Decathlon Tour de France bikes and comparing them. It says that everywhere, in the headline, in the subhead, in the body text. It says it's "a good excuse to look back at how Decathlon’s top-level race bikes have changed over the last 25 years", how on earth can you get from that to "this article was *not* about these two bikes"? Go on swearing black is white all you want, but you are totally wrong.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
whosatthewheel 2 hours ago

@Sriracha They have got what makes bicycles be recognized by the public as bicycles, and what motorbikes haven't got - pedals, that's why.

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Sredlums 2 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Oh wait, so now the article is only about Decathlon's TdF bikes? Because that's in the headline? That's funny, because in your previous comment you said "I think if you look really hard you can see this is an article about how Tour de France bikes have changed",. So, which is it? You can keep cherry-picking snippets of text, but it doesn't change the fact that this article was *not* about these two bikes, nor was it about TdF bikes. This article took these two bikes as examples of top road bikes of their time, to take a broader look at how road bike tech has changed in 30 years. And my original comment was about exactly that; road bikes then and now.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Rendel Harris 3 hours ago

@Sredlums Did you miss this bit? See the words "Tour de France bikes" there? Easy to miss, only being in the headline and all...

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Sredlums 3 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Except of course, Rendel, it is not. This sentence is in the intro of this article: "We compare Jaan Kirsipuu’s early-2000s AG2R race bike with Paul Seixas’ latest machine to chart a quarter of a century of tech progress", and this is the sentence with which they end the article: "Would you like to have a soft spot for bike tech of the past? Or is it best left to history?". Nowhere does it say they are looking only at bikes from the TdF. They honed in on these two specific Decathlon bikes to compare bike tech then with bike tech now.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Rendel Harris 3 hours ago

@Sredlums Well, Sredlums, I think if you look really hard you can see this is an article about how Tour de France bikes have changed, so if you were talking about road bikes in general (which you did not make clear) it was your comment, not my reply, that was not pertinent.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
mdavidford 8 hours ago

Looking at Google shopping results for 'road bike', and then at a variety of retailer sites (Halfords, Decathlon, Sigma Sports, Ribble, Winstanleys, etc. etc., plus a couple of our local shops with ecommerce presence), on none of them are more than about one in eight black or dark grey, and often that's just one of a number of colour choices. So if there are a preponderance of such bikes around, it seems like it's less because bikes have become more 'boring' than it is because the people buying them have.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
Sredlums 9 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Well, Rendel, I think if you look really hard you can see that I wrote "how much more boring road bikes have become" and not 'how much more boring road bikes IN THE TOUR DE FRANCE have become". Simply look around you, when you see a group of road bikers pass by. Look in the bike shops. It's black, black, more black, some dark grey, more dark grey, matte. And black parts, like on all the bikes you showed as an example.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
GravelIsNothingNew 11 hours ago

Exactly. Agree. But that doesn’t give ProCycling a free pass – instead the UCI and all pro teams should be leading the way as ambassadors for cycling as the greenest sport. Pro cycling could be green, but it will take significant change. Frighteningly however, it’s greenwashing that is still the aim and motivation for the majority of pro cycling sponsors. It’s not good enough. Such sponsorships should be banned. Like tobacco and alcohol. It’s as simple as that. Our planet is sending a very clear message through ProCycling – not sustainable.

in: “Cycling is fundamentally a green sport”: EF boss Jonathan Vaughters calls on teams to “take responsibility” as Tour de France on red alert due to extreme heat

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