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Oil on popular cycling + walking route spilled deliberately to target cyclists, claims spotter; Simon Cowell urges e-bikers to “read the manual” after fall; Tory Councillor slammed for red light whataboutery; Sunweb sign Bardet + more on the live blog

Monday’s live blog is brought to you by Jack Sexty, with some contributions from Simon MacMichael later this evening.
  • by Jack Sexty
Mon, Aug 10, 2020 08:32
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SUMMARY

  • Weekend catch-up
  • Painted 'cycle lanes' appear in Lewes, demanding more space for bikes
  • If you go cycling in Greenwich Park today, you're sure of a big surprise
  • Romain Bardet added to Team Sunweb's group chat
  • "Even for you Joanna, this is particularly odious": Conservative councillor accused of "gloating" after Labour councillor tweeted about hospital visit
  • Fabio Jakobsen "will be a bike racer again", suggests Deceuninck-Quick Step team doctor
  • Ride your socks off on Zwift tonight at 7pm!
  • More cycling transfers: AG2R lose a Bardet and gain a Van Avermaet
  • Simon Cowell has surgery on broken back following e-bike crash, and urges new owners to "read the manual"
  • Lance Armstrong's bike shop has stopped selling and servicing Trek police bikes
  • E-bike and scooter retailer Pure Electric urge public not to be deterred from riding e-bikes following Simon Cowell crash
  • "Some humans really suck": oil spilled on Somerset cycling and walking route is targeted at cyclists, claims spotter
  • Man cycling 2,000 miles with his dog to raise cash for Teenage Cancer Trust
  • Man admits stealing bike and pigeon
  • Geraint Thomas caption comp: some of our faves so far
  • Nick Freeman to 'discuss' cyclists jumping red lights with Talkradio's Mike Graham tomorrow
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10 August 2020, 08:32

Weekend catch-up

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Stolen bikes 1 (Met Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Stolen bikes 1 (Met Police)
Stolen bikes 1 (Met Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Enjoyed the weekend sun a little too much and forgot to read road.cc? Here’s what you missed…

Four-year doping ban for Swiss cyclist who tested positive for three banned substances

Milan-Sanremo: Wout van Aert takes the somewhat belated first Monument of the season

Noel Gallagher says the only downside of cycling is “the f***ing helmet”

Chris Froome faces crucial Dauphiné test to clinch Tour de France place

Near Miss of the Day 452: Horse box lorry driver’s astonishingly close pass “scared me sh*tless,” says cyclist

Simon Cowell breaks back in electric bike fall

Cyclist convicted of causing bodily harm by wanton or furious driving after fatal collision with pedestrian

Had your bike nicked? £30k of stolen bikes recovered in Hackney

10 August 2020, 08:32

Painted 'cycle lanes' appear in Lewes, demanding more space for bikes

Graffiti appeared in #Lewes High Street, including a makeshift “cycle lane” painted on the road surface https://t.co/CJf3buorCe

— Brighton Argus (@brightonargus) August 10, 2020

The Argus reports that the unofficial cycle lanes in Lewes, East Sussex have been painted around the town centre, including some bike signs and space for bikes to stop at junctions. 

The local council are currently discussing whether they should bid for cash from the government’s Active Travel Fund, but have condemned the ‘graffiti’. A spokesperson commented: “We would never condone the use of graffiti on the roads, it is illegal and potentially dangerous.

“We are currently working on emergency active travel measures to improve social distancing in the centre of Lewes. This has been the subject of local consultation in recent weeks with those directly affected by the proposal.

“This is an extremely challenging time for businesses trying to recover from the impact of the Covid-19 crisis. As a county council, our priority is to support those businesses in their recovery.

“The Government has instructed us that Emergency Active Travel Fund measures must be in place by early September, which has limited the amount of time we have to consult.

“We have written to businesses and residents where are proposing temporary measures and asked them to let us know if the measures will have an effect on them.”

10 August 2020, 08:32

If you go cycling in Greenwich Park today, you're sure of a big surprise

Carol Kirkwood has seen lots of doggers in Greenwich Park this morning. 🤣🤣 #classic#BBCBreakfast pic.twitter.com/4Oh9vKUZhw

— Haggis_UK 🇬🇧 🇪🇺 (@Haggis_UK) August 10, 2020

That’s according to BBC weather presenter Carol Kirkwood anyway. We hope they’re keeping socially distanced in any case… 

10 August 2020, 08:32

Romain Bardet added to Team Sunweb's group chat

Our 2021 group chat has just got a new member👀🔥 #KeepChallenging pic.twitter.com/IfSILMSvax

— Team Sunweb (@TeamSunweb) August 10, 2020

During these financially troubling times, simply post the team WhatsApp chat to announce your new flagship signing and hey presto! According to an accompanying press release the 29-year-old Frenchman has signed a two-year deal, and will join up with Sunweb from AG2R La Mondiale for the start of the 2021 season. 

10 August 2020, 08:32

"Even for you Joanna, this is particularly odious": Conservative councillor accused of "gloating" after Labour councillor tweeted about hospital visit

Jolly bad luck. Was the traffic light red? Like the time I saw you on Brentford High Street cycling through a red light?

— Joanna Biddolph (@JoannaBiddolph) August 7, 2020

Biddolph – who represents Turnham Green ward – sent the reply to Councillor Guy Lambert, questioning if his accident happened when the traffic light was on red because she allegedly saw him cycling through a red light once, apparently. It’s safe to say people weren’t on her side, with almost a hundred replies accusing her of being “petty”, “nasty” and “spiteful” amongst other things… 

Even for you Joanna this is particularly odious. You may disagree with him on various issues but he’s in hospital! Try and display some empathy.

— Philip Schroeder (@phil_schroeder) August 8, 2020

What a petty and mean spritted sentiment from an elected official. There should be no space in politics in all mainstream parties for attitudes like this.

— Gareth Fiford (@FifordGareth) August 8, 2020

A dreadful comment of the kind you might expect from a child, not an elected official

— Bike Party (@bike__party) August 8, 2020

Wow, fellow councillor in A&E and you’re gloating. What a spiteful response.

— Karen Liebreich (@kareninagarden) August 8, 2020

Biddolph has anti-cycling form, including the time in March 2019 when she asked Twitter: “What’s it called when someone on a bicycle whizzes past moving cars in moving traffic on a busy road, squeezing between the car and the pavement or the car and parked cars, almost touching the cars it was whizzing beside?” 

Surrey Police replied “filtering”, as did the West Midlands Police Traffic Investigations Unit, who said: “Joanna, what you are describing is called “filtering” actively encouraged by @transportgovuk for both motorcycles & cycles, actually taught in bikeability level 3. If done correctly it is risk free and enables those on two wheels to be the most efficient form of transport.”

10 August 2020, 08:32

Fabio Jakobsen "will be a bike racer again", suggests Deceuninck-Quick Step team doctor

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Fabio Jakobsen (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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Fabio Jakobsen (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Speaking to Sporza, Yvan Vanmol said that he couldn’t give a time frame at this stage, but expects the 23-year-old will race a bike professionally again. 

He continued: “Given the seriousness of the accident, Fabio Jakobsen is doing very well. 

“Fabio is fully conscious. You can’t talk yet, but communicating via text messages is fine.

“At the end of next week he will be ready to be transferred to the Netherlands. 

“What we are still concerned about is the aesthetic damage and possibly the muscle group around his mouth. Since no vital organs have been affected, we hope for the best.”

Vanmol said he is in communication with a doctor in the Polish hospital Jakobsen is currently recovering in, saying that he “performed his job perfectly.” 

10 August 2020, 08:32

Ride your socks off on Zwift tonight at 7pm!

Ride Your Socks Off
Ride Your Socks Off (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ride Your Socks Off
Ride Your Socks Off (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

This week’s ride is a ‘C’, so expect to be getting a bit more of a sweat on if you’ve only previously joined us on a ‘D’ week. At least one sock giveaway will take place at some point as always, awarded to the rider who is directly behind the ride leader when we take a screen grab. 

Click here to get full details and sign up, and we hope to see your avatar on the start line at 7! 

10 August 2020, 08:32

More cycling transfers: AG2R lose a Bardet and gain a Van Avermaet

🇧🇪 BIENVENUE @GregVanAvermaet 🇧🇪 ⁰#allezALM – © Getty Images pic.twitter.com/Urvykuj7fn

— AG2RLM Pro Cycling Team (@AG2RLMCyclisme) August 10, 2020

The 35-year-old Belgian and his current teammate Michael Schär  will both move over from CCC Team on three-year deals starting from January 2021. AG2R La Mondiale will also begin using their new name, AG2R Citroën Team, at the beginning of the new year. 

10 August 2020, 08:32

Simon Cowell has surgery on broken back following e-bike crash, and urges new owners to "read the manual"

And a massive thank you to all the nurses and doctors. Some of the nicest people I have ever met.
Stay safe everyone
Simon.

— Simon Cowell (@SimonCowell) August 10, 2020

So sorry to hear this.
Sounds a very nasty accident.
I wish Simon a successful operation and a full & speedy recovery. https://t.co/RqBwIzVeqR

— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) August 9, 2020

The music mogul fell of his electric bike near his Malibu home on Saturday, and thanked the doctors and nurses who treated him after undergoing surgery on a broken back. He also said: “Some good advice… If you buy an electric trail bike, read the manual before you ride it for the first time.”

According to a spokesperson, the 60-year-old had “broken his back in a number of places”, and the surgery involved a number of procedures including the installation of a metal rod in his back. The BBC report that Cowell’s six-year-old son Eric was with him at the time of the accident. 

10 August 2020, 08:32

Lance Armstrong's bike shop has stopped selling and servicing Trek police bikes

Mellow Johnny’s of Austin, Texas say they will “no longer purchase, re-sell, and service police-issue Trek bikes and accessories” amid the continuing controversy surrounding police brutality against the black community. They also clarified: “We are not anti-police. We do believe our local police force will protect us from the very threats we are receiving right now.

“We wish this entire community peace and progress and togetherness at the conclusion of these trying times. And we intend to be a part of the discourse, struggle, and growth for Austin, as we have since we opened our doors in 2008.”

Back in June, Fuji Bikes suspended sales to US police forces after seeing evidence of their bikes being used against protestors following the killing of George Floyd. Trek rejected calls to take the same action, saying that “bikes can play positive role by continuing to get officers out of cars”, and instead outlined a company diversity programme that included the creation of “1,000 cycling industry jobs for people of colour”. 

10 August 2020, 08:32

E-bike and scooter retailer Pure Electric urge public not to be deterred from riding e-bikes following Simon Cowell crash

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Moustache Friday 28 riding -5 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Moustache Friday 28 riding -5
Moustache Friday 28 riding -5 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Although it’s not clear exactly what type of bike Cowell was riding when he broke his back, Pure Electric are keen to remind the British public that e-bikes in the UK are subject to much stricter regulations. Their public affairs director Tom McPhail commented: “Some American e-bikes are more like motorcycles and it’s not clear what Simon Cowell was riding when he had his accident.

“By contrast, e-bikes in the UK are well-regulated. E-bikes are an incredible transport solution that can help millions of people get fit, move around cities easily and have fun while they’re doing it; it would be a tragedy if this one isolated accident in Los Angeles deters people from riding them here in the UK, particularly given the way the streets are filling up with cars again since lockdown ended.”

In the US there are three classes of e-bikes, with most capable of a 20mph assisted speed from a motor that could be up to 750 watts. In the UK, motor power is limited to 250 watts and the assisted speed cuts out at 15.5mph (25km/h). Check out eBikeTips’ comprehensive guide to e-bikes and the law in the UK here. 

10 August 2020, 08:32

"Some humans really suck": oil spilled on Somerset cycling and walking route is targeted at cyclists, claims spotter

Oil patches on Two Tunnels path - credit  Jayson Godridge
Oil patches on Two Tunnels path - credit Jayson Godridge (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Oil patches on Two Tunnels path - credit  Jayson Godridge
Oil patches on Two Tunnels path – credit Jayson Godridge (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Posting on a local Facebook group before sending this image to road.cc, the cyclist spotted the oil along the popular Two Tunnels Greenway path in Bath, speculating that it is likely the deliberate work of a saboteur who is attempting to make a warped point about cyclists’ speed on the route. He also claimed to have spotted a similar oil patch last week, adding: 

“What they need to remember is that this path is used by everyone, including kids and the elderly. It’s now very slippery, potentially very dangerous, and will also be polluting the area once the rain comes.

“Some humans really suck.”

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oil spill comments 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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oil spill comments 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Numerous people replied to say they have reported the issue to the council and to Sustrans, who maintain the route. Another commented: “It’s not just a danger to the cyclists, it’s an environmental problem as well. As soon as it rains it’s going to flow into the surrounding area. This is so pointless and dangerous to a lot of people including children, I’m not a cyclist but I would never dream of doing such a malicious, deliberate act. I hope the police do something.” 

10 August 2020, 08:32

Man cycling 2,000 miles with his dog to raise cash for Teenage Cancer Trust

chris and vinnie the dog charity ride
chris and vinnie the dog charity ride (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
chris and vinnie the dog charity ride
chris and vinnie the dog charity ride (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Thanks to “time off through furlough”, Chris Canham set off with Vinnie the Jack Russell on the 28th July, and has completed around 500 miles so far. They will also stop off at all of the three peaks and climb them on route, and are pressing ahead despite numerous mishaps along the way. His friend Craig Hudson said: Chris’ bike, now named Lazarus, has broken on a number of occasions, always being rescued by Chris and a group of good Samaritans along the way. Halfords in particular have been vital in keeping Chris, Vinnie & especially Lazarus on the road, managing to provide work on the more extensive breakages. Some concerns were raised at first about Vinnie, referred to as “The Wonderdog” by the Facebook community, but Chris has won over the Great British public by showing just how much he spoils the pup and how much Vinnie is loving the adventure too.”

You can follow Chris and Vinnie’s journey on Facebook here, and donate to the JustGiving page here. 

10 August 2020, 08:32

Man admits stealing bike and pigeon

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racing pigeon - via wikimedia commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
racing pigeon - via wikimedia commons.PNG
racing pigeon – via wikimedia commons (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The Evening Express reports that 28-year-old Dean Wells pleaded guilty to the unusual crime, after stealing a pigeon from a pigeon loft in Elgin, Scotland and also stealing a bicycle from a different address on the same street. He also admitted to a domestically aggravated charge of behaving in a threatening or abusive manner.

After Wells attempted to take off on the bike he had stolen from a rear garden, the residents decided to go out in an attempt to get the bike back. Wells was reportedly “lying on the ground in an attempt to hide himself”, and the bike was retrieved by the owners, who took photos and called the police. 

On the same day, officers were called to another address after a witness found that one of his 17 pigeons was missing from his pigeon loft, which was eventually traced back to Wells. Giving his own plea in mitigation, Wells told the court via video link: “I’d just like to take this opportunity to apologise.

“The theft of the pigeon, that was just a big mistake.

“I’ve got an addiction, and my addiction is to valium and opium. For the bike I was out my face.

“My life has never been so good since I left Elgin. I left to get away from all that trouble. This is just a blip in my recovery.”

Wells asked to be released on bail because “there’s some serious guys in prison looking for me just now”; however he was remanded in custody until later this month, with Sheriff William Summer citing Wells’ “raft of previous convictions.”

10 August 2020, 08:32

Geraint Thomas caption comp: some of our faves so far

“Have you been in an accident that wasn’t your fault?” pic.twitter.com/yhwznkWuYg

— Matt Becker (@MattBecker82) August 10, 2020

“Hi Dave. Can you come back and give me a lift?”

— Colin Lynch (@FormerTTchamp) August 10, 2020

OK lads, send in the air strike. Target is about 1min ahead, head bobbing, elbows out.

— Matt Becker (@MattBecker82) August 10, 2020

The Welshman appears to be on the phone with a helicopter in the background, and social media hasn’t disappointed with the replies. 

10 August 2020, 08:32

Nick Freeman to 'discuss' cyclists jumping red lights with Talkradio's Mike Graham tomorrow

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mike graham on talkradio 2 - via twitter (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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mike graham on talkradio 2 – via twitter (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The lawyer best known for getting famous motorists off speeding fines using obscure loopholes is going, erm, ‘highbrow’ following his appearance on Good Morning Britain alongside Cycling UK’s Duncan Dollimore last week. Freeman will be talking to Mike Graham on Talkradio about “cyclists who jump red lights and why we need robust legislation to make the roads safer for all of us.” The ‘discussion’ will air at 11:30am tomorrow. 

We’re confident that Mr Graham, who recently said on his show that cyclists are “an absolute eyesore on the entire country” and described cycle commuting in London as the preserve of  “Lycra-clad, new tech start-up types”, will table a fair and balanced debate on the topic… 

10 August 2020, 08:32

Bradley Wiggins says cycling could learn from athletics to avoid repeat of Fabio Jakobsen crash

Bradley Wiggins says cycling could learn from athletics to avoid repeat of Fabio Jakobsen crash

Painted lanes could prevent sprinters from deviating from line; meanwhile team doctor hopeful Jakobsen will be back racing at some point

10 August 2020, 08:32

The Italians have launched a new mid-range aero road bike

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  1. brooksby
    August 10, 2020 at 9:21 am
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    “This word – ‘doggers’ –

    “This word – ‘doggers’ – Carol; I do not think it means what you think it means…”

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    • hawkinspeter
      August 10, 2020 at 9:41 am
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      She knows what it means and

      She knows what it means and there’s no need to kink-shame her for whatever floats her boat.

      By the way, I’ll just leave this here: https://phys.org/news/2020-08-humans-private.html

      (Just humans and Arabian babblers)

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      August 10, 2020 at 10:33 am
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      Reminds me of the Car Share

      Reminds me of the Car Share Episode where she states she goes dogging every evening with the elderly neighbour in the back field.

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      • eburtthebike
        August 10, 2020 at 11:00 am
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        AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

        Reminds me of the Car Share Episode where she states she goes dogging every evening with the elderly neighbour in the back field.

        — AlsoSomniloquism

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u4hAxi5b6o

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    • David9694
      August 10, 2020 at 11:01 am
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      Ohh, I can almost feel the

      Ohh, I can almost feel the shoe horn straining at Road.cc to find a way to get that one in.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        August 10, 2020 at 5:09 pm
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        I don’t mind a link to the

        I don’t mind a link to the lovely Carol not matter how tenouous.

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  2. eburtthebike
    August 10, 2020 at 10:57 am
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    Let’s face it; tories are an

    Let’s face it; tories are an obnoxious bunch of callous, selfish, nasty people.  Still, when your  leader is a liar, cheat, hypocrite and coward, maybe that shouldn’t be a surprise.

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    • Hirsute
      August 10, 2020 at 11:00 am
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      Fantastic generalisation.

      Fantastic generalisation.

      Are you here all week?

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        August 10, 2020 at 11:47 am
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        Whilst it is a generalisation

        Whilst it is a generalisation, there is also alot more proof in favour then not?  And if you think BloJo is not a liar, cheat, hypocrite or coward, please show me proof,

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      • eburtthebike
        August 10, 2020 at 7:22 pm
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        hirsute wrote:

        Fantastic generalisation.

        Are you here all week?

        — hirsute

        I could be; how much are you paying?

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    • Compact Corned Beef
      August 10, 2020 at 11:47 am
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      That’s absurd, unfair and

      That’s absurd, unfair and hectoring.

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      • eburtthebike
        August 10, 2020 at 2:03 pm
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        Compact Corned Beef wrote:

        That’s absurd, unfair and hectoring.

        — Compact Corned Beef

        Perhaps you could make your irony a little clearer next time.devil

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  3. Haloric
    August 10, 2020 at 11:44 am
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    Does anyone know what e-bike

    Does anyone know what e-bike this was ? I’ve seen Simon Cowell refer to it as a ‘e-trail bike’ – so is this an actual electric motor bike, or a power assisted bike ?. Simon Cowell does not look like he could pull a wheelie on anything that needs his own power, and its also pretty difficult to do on something that provides assistance, particularly on a first ride – whereas as with a twist grip motorbike, it could easily happen. Enquiring minds want the truth please. Be interesting to analyze how this story has been framed once we know.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      August 10, 2020 at 11:53 am
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      American so I assume 20mph

      American so I assume 20mph minimum with the ability to ride on electric power and some trail bikes have the ability to go upto 60mph. So I assume he bought one and probably did the throttle and was thrown back and off as it was set at highest straight away. Hence the manual mention. 

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      • Haloric
        August 10, 2020 at 12:12 pm
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        Thats what I suspect too –

        Thats what I suspect too – but do we call electric motor bikes e-bikes now ? Because of course this is just another press dig at the dangers of cyclists, when in fact it’s (most likely) a story for electric motorbikes. If this is true, be interested to see how many news papers attempt to clarify that.

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      • kil0ran
        August 10, 2020 at 12:41 pm
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        It’s easily done, even with a

        It’s easily done, even with a UK spec eBike. Grab handlebar, chuck leg over, this then tends to move your right hand on the throttle and the bike zips out from underneath you. Bloke I sold an ebike to did just that and ended up flat on his back with bike on top of him.

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        • eburtthebike
          August 10, 2020 at 2:01 pm
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          kil0ran wrote:

          It’s easily done, even with a UK spec eBike. Grab handlebar, chuck leg over, this then tends to move your right hand on the throttle and the bike zips out from underneath you. Bloke I sold an ebike to did just that and ended up flat on his back with bike on top of him.

          — kil0ran

          eBicycles in the UK don’t have throttles, they can only be pedal assist, so was the bike you were selling legal?

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          • kil0ran
            August 10, 2020 at 2:25 pm
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            Walk assist – on a Wisper 705

            Walk assist – on a Wisper 705 – https://wisperbikes.com/shop/e-bikes/step-through-ebikes/705-26-2019/

            Throttles are legal on UK ebikes, providing they don’t exceed 4mph

          • eburtthebike
            August 10, 2020 at 3:59 pm
            0

            kil0ran wrote:

            Walk assist – on a Wisper 705 – https://wisperbikes.com/shop/e-bikes/step-through-ebikes/705-26-2019/

            Throttles are legal on UK ebikes, providing they don’t exceed 4mph

            — kil0ran

            Thanks, I didn’t know that.

  4. kil0ran
    August 10, 2020 at 12:43 pm
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    AG2R Citroen? Maybe an AG2R

    AG2R Citroen? Maybe an AG2R-coloured version of the La Vie Claire kit might finally make brown shorts acceptable?

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  5. brooksby
    August 10, 2020 at 12:45 pm
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-53721909

    Another wild untamed motor vehicle?  Or, a driver who literally couldn’t see the side of a house?

    The picture really has to be seen to be believed 

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    • Hirsute
      August 10, 2020 at 12:50 pm
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      And this brooksby is

      And this brooksby is precisely why cyclists need insurance to use the roads

      see also

      https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/11613/production/_110778117_mediaitem110778116.jpg

      top trump !

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      • M20MAMIL
        August 10, 2020 at 9:14 pm
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        Friends, can I recommend the

        Friends, can I recommend the excellent blog ‘Audis in Houses’, in which the highly skilled drivers of our  favourite German automotive maker, demonstrate how difficult it can be to avoid collisions with buildings:

        Audis in houses

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    • hawkinspeter
      August 10, 2020 at 12:51 pm
      0

      brooksby wrote:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-53721909

      Another wild untamed motor vehicle?  Or, a driver who literally couldn’t see the side of a house?

      The picture really has to be seen to be believed 

      — brooksby

      When are houses going to take responsibility for their own safety? They sit there all nonchalant without any hi-viz or protective accessories and expect drivers to do all the work in avoiding them.

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    • Hirsute
      August 10, 2020 at 12:55 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-53721909

      The picture really has to be seen to be believed 

      — brooksby

      https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/128A1/production/_113873957_van2.jpg

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      • Mungecrundle
        August 10, 2020 at 1:09 pm
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        Have Amazon started

        Have Amazon started delivering vans?

        I expect there is a note through the front door “Your package is behind the bins”.

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        • Awavey
          August 10, 2020 at 11:15 pm
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          well this lorry tried to

          well this lorry tried to reverse into a house in Thorpe le Soken https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/photos-shows-damage-house-after-4412699 at least the police charged the driver with careless driving

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    • iandusud
      August 11, 2020 at 6:13 am
      0

      brooksby wrote:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-53721909

      Another wild untamed motor vehicle?  Or, a driver who literally couldn’t see the side of a house?

      The picture really has to be seen to be believed 

      — brooksby

      But was the 2 year old wearing a helmet?

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  6. brooksby
    August 10, 2020 at 2:40 pm
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    Quote:

    We’re confident that Mr Graham, …, will table a fair and balanced debate on the topic..

      

     

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  7. HarrogateSpa
    August 10, 2020 at 2:55 pm
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    I know why you publicise

    I know why you publicise Freeman & Graham – for the clicks & engagement – but it would be far better to ignore them.

    (Gets ready to be told ‘you might be better off elsewhere’ by road.cc writing person).

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    • Hirsute
      August 10, 2020 at 3:00 pm
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      I don’t really see the point

      I don’t really see the point of boosting those 2’s radio show or twitter feed by increased activity. Is anyone seriously going to tune in ?

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      • eburtthebike
        August 10, 2020 at 7:21 pm
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        hirsute wrote:

        I don’t really see the point of boosting those 2’s radio show or twitter feed by increased activity. Is anyone seriously going to tune in ?

        — hirsute

        I hear the masochists cycling club are all going to listen.

        And the cycling bingo card club; they’ll be listening too, but only for the first five minutes, because all the cards will be full by then.

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        • Hirsute
          August 10, 2020 at 7:38 pm
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          I couldn’t last 5 minutes

          I couldn’t last 5 minutes

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          • David9694
            August 11, 2020 at 6:08 am
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            There’s a pill for that. Back

            There’s a pill for that. Back to this radio show, my doctor says I should avoid this show, bad for my blood pressure. 

  8. Rome73
    August 11, 2020 at 7:07 am
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    I don’t know about Simon

    I don’t know about Simon Cowel’s bike but whenever I train people on EU regulated ebikes I always start them in eco mode. Even without a throttle a pedelec can have a ‘kick’ for the uninitiated.  

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      August 11, 2020 at 1:25 pm
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      I will attest to the kick

      I will attest to the kick when I tested some at the Brum Bike Show. On 5 as most of them were, it pretty much gives you the 200W power or so as you push down to start off so you leap forward at a speed not anticpated when cycling normally. 

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AidanR 3 hours ago

@mdavidford thanks for the tip on replying to the thread! It would seem odd for his brother (thank you for the correction) to mention that he wasn't able "to brake in time" because he was in the TT position if he otherwise would have been able to apply the brakes. Perhaps it wouldn't have avoided the crash entirely, but it seems likely that it would have at least lessened the impact. It therefore seems entirely reasonable to conclude from this that TT bikes are more dangerous. That takes no blame away from the driver, as a rider should not be forced to brake to avoid a collision caused by a driver turning into their path.

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mdavidford 3 hours ago

@the little onion I'd agree that would be a sensible way to go. I don't think it's currently feasible for Sustrans / NCN, though, because they don't have the necessary powers to make it happen. It needs a local authority, who can drive the planning, land acquisition, etc. And actually there are much larger sums earmarked for local and regional authorities to improve provision. (Whether they actually end up using that effectively is, of course, another question.)

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anotherflat 3 hours ago

@Steve K My sister taught a kid who came up through Crystal Palace youth system then left for another club at 16. Jordan classily traduced him and his family in some friendly newspaper.

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Rendel Harris 4 hours ago

@Terry Hutt Thing is, I've yet to come across a silent ebike, so all you have to do to check legality is ride it, keep an eye on your own speedo and listen to hear if the motor's still running when you get over 15 mph.

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Terry Hutt 4 hours ago

@Rendel Harris This would probably be better than their current "tests" if the e-bike has a cadence sensor and a non-GPS speed display. If it has a power sensor (proportional assistance) or no speed display you're back to square one. Mind you, if the bike is doing 30mph on the flat and the rider isn't pedaling furiously, I say crush it with the rider still attached.

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chrisonabike 4 hours ago

@the little onion AFAICS the notional cycling network is best seen as a "national sign network". An impressive mapping effort to catalog what infra there is and *suggest* places for cycling. But no guarantee it will be suitable for all cyclists. Or even any specific cycling purpose. Unless possibly you're into a kind of "adventure racing". It certainly bears little resemblance to the numbered junction network ("knooppunt") in NL. *That* is a genuine "help you navigate" system - but that goes everywhere, on at least "good enough" infra.

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chrisonabike 4 hours ago

@the little onion Yes. One of the many great features of cycling-as-transport is that you can start local. Then concentration (of money, then infra and cyclists) is effective. That's how eg. Seville did it. And (I think) Paris. And much of how NL has got there I suspect. OTOH there are some potential blockers at bigger scales. Perhaps a Reform regional mayor decides they *will* implement the national policies - win the war *for* the motorist? Or good infra or transport reorganisation gets tangled up in national legal regulation. Or the money is suddenly shut off (or redirected to fill half-a-mile of potholes for motorists for a year).

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the little onion 5 hours ago

@mdavidford I get your argument, but why spread it thinly on stuff that plainly doesn't work, rather than concentrating it on good stuff which does, in the right place? If given the choice of a national network of rubbish, or small localised patches of well-maintained excellence that does a great job within individual towns and cities, I'd go for the latter every time.

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OldRidgeback 5 hours ago

Like a lot of CPFC fans, I take anything Simon Jordan says with a pinch of salt. Jordan took over an ailing football club, got it into the premiership and then his ego got even bigger, followed by him running the club downhill fast. He's not remembered fondly by many down at Selhurst Park. He might actually know his wines as he did own a restaurant for a while. But he can stick his views on cycling up his behind.

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smallbeer 5 hours ago

@didsthewinegeek He can explain it to you but he can't understand it for you.

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