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Lime bike on a pavement (Unsplash)
Lime bike on a pavement (Image Credit: Unsplash)

Are “borrowed” Lime bikes pushing London to Dutch levels of cycling?; Toronto’s “bicycle mayor” arrives to be sworn in leading hundreds of cyclists; Fabio Jakobsen abandons Tour de France; Park Lane cycling scenes in Hyde Park + more on the live blog

Hop on the live blog train bringing you the best of cycling, from Tour de France to local bike lanes, steered by Adwitiya today
  • by Adwitiya Pal
Thu, Jul 13, 2023 09:06
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SUMMARY

  • Fabio Jakobsen abandons Tour de France to recover from the stage 4 crash, to leave Soudal Quick-Step next season
  • Mark Cavendish avoids Tour de France comeback speculation, says recovery should be "number of weeks"
  • Park Lane in Hyde Park, London is now permanent
  • "Arriving like a true queen": Toronto's "bicycle" mayor arrives to be sworn in, leading hundreds of cyclists on her first day
  • Chris Froome "let down" by Tour de France snub, blames "frustrating" equipment issues
  • "This stage is out of control!": Tour de France stage 12 so far...
  • Has someone cracked UAE's code? Tigers = Jumbo Visma, Crocodiles = Bora??
  • E-bikes and e-scooters to be banned from part of Thames Path
  • Some more uplifting cycle lane news...
  • How do you make sense of that stage?! Cofidis gets second win in 15 years today through Ion Izagirre
  • 10 ways to make the Tour de France even better — no weight limits, eliminations stages, tandems + more
  • New Specialized road bike leaked with unique oversized head tube — is this the new Tarmac SL8 or a revamped Roubaix?
  • "Click-clack of anti-capitalism" or "free-range bikes": Are teens "borrowing" locked Lime bikes pushing London to Dutch levels of cycling?
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13 July 2023, 09:06

Fabio Jakobsen abandons Tour de France to recover from the stage 4 crash, to leave Soudal Quick-Step next season

Dutch sprinting specialist Fabio Jakobsen has announced this morning that he is going home from the Tour de France, after a tough edition of the Grand Boucle with his team Soudal Quick-Step, which he is set to leave next year.

He said: “Due to my stage four crash, and after discussions with the team, we decided it’s better for me to stop my Tour de France journey here. At this point it seems impossible for me to get to Paris, as I am not recovering, and my body is not healing from the crash.

“I’m very sad to leave the Grande Boucle, because I had big goals for this race and wanted to be at my best with the team. I will now take some time to recover and clear my head, and hopefully be back at my best later this season.”

Unfortunately, @FabioJakobsen will not start stage 12 of the #TDF2023.

Read more about it here and join us in wishing Fabio a speedy recovery: https://t.co/gprrpP3a1M

Photo: @GettySport pic.twitter.com/qHLxT2rZOP

— Soudal Quick-Step Pro Cycling Team (@soudalquickstep) July 13, 2023

A stage winner in last year’s Tour, beating the likes of Wout van Aert and Mads Pederson in a sprint to the finish line, Jakobsen hasn’t had the best of times in Bilbao and France so far this year.

> Fabio Jakobsen quickly edits Instagram post to remove sight of broken Specialized

He was expected by many, including our esteemed panel, to at least compete for the green jersey this year. However, the Wolfpack man has failed to win any stage so far, always a spectator from the back to the gripping action the four sprint stages has provided this year.

To add more to his miseries, he unfortunately was involved in a bad crash right at the final corner before the straight for the sprinters on stage four, leaving him bloodied and bruised. Oh, and his Specialized bike snapped in half, a photo of which he had posted on Instagram. And which we spotted with our keen eyes on the live blog before Jakobsen was presumably told to edit the post so as not to bring any bad name to the all-important bike sponsors of the team.

Fabio Jakobsen Tour de France (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Fabio Jakobsen Tour de France (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Fabio Jakobsen after stage 4 crash at 2023 Tour de France (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Speaking of the team, Jakobsen has confirmed that he will leave Soudal Quick-Step, who after some very strong showings in the Tour have failed to make an impact this year, struggling to offer the Dutchman opportunities to place himself in the bunch.

Reports suggest that team boss Patrick Lefevre wants to strengthen the climbing aspect of his team to support world champion Remco Evenepoel, who is not here in the Tour but set to ride in the Vuelta.

Jakobsen said: “If I stayed another two years, I would have to share my spot with Remco and another top sprinter. I want to go to the Tour, I want to sprint, that will not work at Soudal Quick-Step in the coming years.”

“I did talk to Patrick here in the Tour, on the bus,” he said. “At the end of the conversation, I got a hug. However, unfortunately, I can’t stay. I have to find another team.”

“It was coming beforehand, but I hadn’t seen Patrick after the spring. As the boss of the team, he also has to take stock and I can also talk to Patrick. We don’t want to break up with a fight.”

> Jakobsen’s team to proceed with legal action against Groenewegen over Tour de Pologne crash

The timing of Jakobsen’s decision to go home could also be based around the fact that none of the next six stages offer anything for the sprinters, as the already quite difficult Tour heads into the even more gruelling Alpine territory.

Which also leaves Soudal Quick-Step’s chances of getting a stage win looking very slim, with the only realistic way to victory through a breakaway. And from what we’ve seen so far, it could be incredibly difficult to get in one and make it all the way to line without being caught. But crazier things have happened so let’s not count them out.

Meanwhile, well wishes for the sprinter’s recovery have flooded on social media. road.cc wishes him a speedy recovery too!

Get well soon Fabio, so sad that that crash has ended your Tour ambitions. ❤️‍🩹

— Anna Mac 👑🪱 🌈🖤 (@AnnamacB) July 13, 2023

That’s a shame, I thought he was climbing really well in stages 1 and 2 so the shape was definitely there. Get well soon!

— Alexandra G (@_alegatz) July 13, 2023

13 July 2023, 09:06

Mark Cavendish avoids Tour de France comeback speculation, says recovery should be "number of weeks"

2023 Tour de France Mark Cavendish (ASO/Pauline Ballet)
Pauline Ballet) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2023 Tour de France Mark Cavendish (ASO/Pauline Ballet)
Pauline Ballet) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2023 Tour de France Mark Cavendish (ASO/Pauline Ballet)

Speaking from beside his hospital bed back in the UK, Cavendish confirmed he successfully underwent surgery to fit plates to his fractured right clavicle, an injury slightly complicated by the screws from his 2014 Tour crash in Harrogate being affected.

> Mark Cavendish avoids Tour de France comeback speculation, says recovery should be “number of weeks”

13 July 2023, 09:06

Park Lane in Hyde Park, London is now permanent

Joy! Will Norman, London’s Walking and Cycling Commissioner has revealed that the cyclepath in Park Lane in Hyde Park, London is being made permanent.

Hyde Park is a much loved London gem, which gets v busy with people walking.

With more Londoners cycling, our Park Lane cycleway provides a safe alternative for bikes (accessible at night), prioritising the park for walking & slower cyclists.

We’re making Park Lane permanent. pic.twitter.com/E3mfmLNPGe

— Will Norman (@willnorman) July 13, 2023

13 July 2023, 09:06

"Arriving like a true queen": Toronto's "bicycle" mayor arrives to be sworn in, leading hundreds of cyclists on her first day

Now that’s what you call a city mayor! Olivia Chow, who made history last month, becoming the first ever Chinese-Canadian mayor of Toronto and ending over a decade of conservative rule in the city, had her swearing in ceremony yesterday.

And would you look at the scenes!

New Toronto mayor Olivia Chow arrives to be sworn in, leading hundreds of cyclists on her first day. pic.twitter.com/4Dc7XuAeph

— dave seglins (@cbcdaveseglins) July 12, 2023

> Toronto elects ‘bicycle mayor’ Olivia Chow

Nicknamed the ‘bicycle mayor’ for her ardent passion for cycling (she doesn’t even hold a driving licence), Chow led hundreds of cyclists on her first day to the swearin in.

The 66-year-old – who spoke in the run-up to the election about the need to create more cycling infrastructure in order to support Vision Zero – was notably up against right-wing anti-cycling candidate Anthony Furey, who even made removing all bike lanes on Toronto’s major roads a key part of his campaign.

Arriving like a true Queen!!!

— Matrraka (@Matrraka) July 12, 2023

Let’s see who can answer this question!

Wow. What politician in the UK would do this?

— patrickwillcocks (@patrickwillcock) July 12, 2023

I’ve got two…

You had one … pic.twitter.com/fHGPl75Oco

— Sunny Giron (@sunny_giron) July 12, 2023

pic.twitter.com/Ih9UgGXyqX

— realJohnKotyk (@realJohnKotyk) July 13, 2023

The British democracy, ladies and gentlemen!

13 July 2023, 09:06

Chris Froome "let down" by Tour de France snub, blames "frustrating" equipment issues

Chris Froome (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Chris Froome (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Equipment issues again? At least no disc brake complaints this time…

> Chris Froome “let down” by Tour de France snub, blames “frustrating” equipment issues

13 July 2023, 09:06

"This stage is out of control!": Tour de France stage 12 so far...

What drama, what spectacle. A day that was expected to be one for the breakaway has not really developed into a clear one, because the peloton just won’t let them go!

We had Van der Poel attack and Wout van Aert follow (is there a better love story?), we had van Aert lead solo, then Skjelmose at the front, who was then joined by Kelderman and Soler, and just few seconds behind the ever-inseparable Vingegaard and Pogačar, sticking to each other’s wheels and not giving an inch. Okay, there might be a competitor for the MvdP and WvA love story.

MVDP ATTACKS, WVA FOLLOWS! It doesn’t matter when you read this. #TDF2023 pic.twitter.com/fW1HXqR6Je

— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) July 13, 2023

“This stage is just out of control. I don’t even know where to look!” said Eurosport GCN’s on-scooter expert Jens Voigt.

Jonas Vingegaard is riding like a crazy person and I absolutely love every second of it. 😍 #TDF2023 pic.twitter.com/lIgWy3yAZX

— Benji Naesen (@BenjiNaesen) July 13, 2023

13 July 2023, 09:06

Has someone cracked UAE's code? Tigers = Jumbo Visma, Crocodiles = Bora??

Remember yesterday’s cryptic team radio from UAE Team Emirates? 

“Everybody jump the tiger, when the crocodiles have to swim, you jump!” … WHAT?

Looks like someone’s cracked the message and solved the mystery of why were tigers and crocodiles roaming on French roads.

I think I’ve cracked the code! 💡
Tiger = yellow & black = Jumbo-Visma (Vingegaard)
Crocodiles = green = BORA-hansgrohe (Hindley)
“Jump the tiger” = position yourself ahead of TJV
“When the crocodiles have to swim” = when BOH are vulnerable in crosswinds
“You jump” = push on for… https://t.co/0y8yzqUxzd

— Lukas Knöfler 💙💛 (@lukascph) July 12, 2023

Now wouldn’t it be funny if UAE’s DS just did it again for the laughs?

13 July 2023, 09:06

E-bikes and e-scooters to be banned from part of Thames Path

Thames Path at Hammersmith (copyright Simon MacMichael)
Thames Path at Hammersmith (copyright Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Thames Path at Hammersmith (copyright Simon MacMichael)
Thames Path at Hammersmith (copyright Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Hammersmith and Fulham Council says the PSPO will be in effect soon, with exemptions for disabled people using mobility aids and parents transporting children, with riders soon facing a £100 fixed-penalty notice if caught riding along parts of the Thames Path in London.

> E-bikes and e-scooters to be banned from part of Thames Path

13 July 2023, 09:06

Some more uplifting cycle lane news...

Some live reporting from road.cc stalwart Simon MacMichael with images of the C9 extension westwards from Kew Bridge in west London, which he says is “starting to take shape nicely”.

C9 extension 1 (image: Simon MacMichael)
C9 extension 1 (image: Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
C9 extension 1 (image: Simon MacMichael)
C9 extension 1 (image: Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

You can see Brentford’s Gtech Community Stadium poking its head up immediately above the road narrows sign to the right of the petrol station.

He added: “Once this is built through to Brentford, it will be possible to pretty much cycle all the way from Stratford to Brentford on protected or off-road cycle lanes (and beyond those, off route paths either end eg River Lea to the east, Syon Park/Thames Path to the west).”

“Except for Kensington ******* High Street.”

C9 extension 2 (image: Simon MacMichael)
C9 extension 2 (image: Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
C9 extension 2 (image: Simon MacMichael)
C9 extension 2 (image: Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

First the Park Lane in London and now this today? Which one of you has made a deal with the devil…

13 July 2023, 09:06

How do you make sense of that stage?! Cofidis gets second win in 15 years today through Ion Izagirre

After 15 winless years, Cofidis has done it, and not just one, twice!

It was a long time coming for Izagirre but he performed a master piece with a solo win from 30KM out. Relive the last KM ⤵️

Elle aura pris du temps, mais Ion Izagirre retrouve enfin la victoire sur le Tour, après un run solitaire spectaculaire ⤵️ #TDF2023 @continental_fr pic.twitter.com/DYYjouXe3l

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 13, 2023

After Victor Lafay’s shock win in stage two which saw him wear the green jersey, the French cycling outfit has won another stage, as the brilliant rider from the Basque country, Ion Izagirre broke away solo to close off a fitting finale to what was a thrilling day for fans, but a brutal day for the riders.

In a stage fuelled by a flurry of non-stop attacks, which saw several brilliant riders like Van der Poel, Van Aert, Ciccone, and Skjelmose trade in leads, go for solo breakaways, pace the peloton and not give anyone more than a few minutes of breathing space, it was Izagirre who came out on top.

Until the final 30km, it looked like Van der Poel had things under control, going solo first and then joined by Pinot and Jorgensen. However, as the trio allowed the chasing pack to close off. It was then that Izagirre put the hammer down and decided to go off solo, diving down the steep descent of Col de la Croix Rosier.

He soon put 30 seconds, then 40 and then eventually won the stage with a lead of astonishing 58 seconds; the final kilometre or so a mere procession as he basked in the French sun of a Tour which started from his home region.

BRAAAVOOO ! 🥇#TDF2023 📸 @GettySport pic.twitter.com/BH0Es3YKJT

— Team Cofidis (@TeamCOFIDIS) July 13, 2023

In the GC, no changes at the top, but home hero Thibaut Pinot jumps into the top 10, moving up five places after what was a strong performance in a very difficult stage.

Today’s podium was rounded up by TotalEnergies’ Mathieu Buegaudeau and Movistar’s Matteo Jorgensen.

Oh and just in case you missed it, never count out Van der Poel to bring elite cyclocross skills to the Tour.

Mathieu van der Poel risking life and limb to get the largest possible gap before the next climb. 😳 #TDF2023 pic.twitter.com/ZjYUI6xLx4

— Benji Naesen (@BenjiNaesen) July 13, 2023

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13 July 2023, 09:06

New Specialized road bike leaked with unique oversized head tube — is this the new Tarmac SL8 or a revamped Roubaix?

2023 Specialized spotted
2023 Specialized spotted (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2023 Specialized spotted
2023 Specialized spotted (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Come on now, where are all those who were going on about this being a TT bike?

Back in January, we had already speculated that we may see a new Tarmac SL8 this year. Although our predictions were for before the Tour de France, after some course correction, we now expect the new bike to show its face just in time for Remco Evenepoel to defend either his World Champion title or the Vuelta.

However, some of his teammates might have gave the game away prematurely though, as these leaked images appear to show a new Specialized road bike that is certainly different to anything we’ve seen previously. 

Read more about the yet to be released bike here:

> New Specialized road bike leaked with unique oversized head tube — is this the new Tarmac SL8 or a revamped Roubaix?

13 July 2023, 09:06

"Click-clack of anti-capitalism" or "free-range bikes": Are teens "borrowing" locked Lime bikes pushing London to Dutch levels of cycling?

Lime e-bike
Lime e-bike (Image Credit: Lime)
Lime e-bike
Lime e-bike (Image Credit: Lime)

Click-click-click-click-CLACK. Click-click-click-click-CLACK. 

No, I’m not humming the intro to some Dutch techno-anthem, neither is it the noise made by the zombies from The Last of Us. It’s the sound of a ‘hacked’ Lime bike hurtling past you. 

But Guardian journalist and cycling campaigner Peter Walker believes that the with more and more teenagers “borrowing” the locked Lime bikes pushing London to the levels of biking seen in the hallowed, mythical land of the Dutch?

The rate at which London’s teenagers are “borrowing” locked Lime bikes at the end of the school day, some of my local secondaries are heading for near-Dutch levels of cycling modal share.

— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) July 12, 2023

If you didn’t know, the lime-coloured, well, Lime bikes are the e-bike hire scheme popular in several boroughs of the capital (as well as Manchester and Milton Keynes). They are supposed to be unlocked using the smartphone app and dropped off at the designated parking bays after use.

Supposed to be.

However, there are ways to get around the unlocking, which went viral a couple months ago on TikTok, as people hacked them to ride without the battery assistance, which resulted in users “dumping the bikes with impunity”, according to one council.

> People have been hacking Lime e-bikes to ride them without power

Peter Walker, however, says that this ‘hacking’ has allowed schoolgoing teenagers to use them at the end of the school day, with him claiming that some of his local secondaries are “heading for near-Dutch levels of cycling modal share”.

“Lime should get some sort of NHS grant for their contribution to teenage activity levels. Manually pedalling a bike that heavy definitely falls into ‘strenuous’ exertion,” he added.

I’ve heard it called “the click clack of anti capitalism”. Personally I call them “free range bikes”. I live on a hill, and I often see (or hear) quite slight youngsters pedaling up the road unassisted. Those bikes are bloody heavy without the motor, credit to the kids.

— Georgina Wilcox (@GeorginaWilcox) July 13, 2023

Twitter user and frequent cycling advocate @BobFromAccounts wrote: “Unpopular opinion: The next mayor should be funding free bikes for the young ‘uns, thus creating a whole new generation of bike people, fewer cars and cleaner air whilst in turn positively annoying many of the car-brained.”

While Andy Hillier, a journalist wrote: “I hired one the other day. My teenage son was shocked I actually paid to use one.”

As long as we are discussing popular and unpopular opinions, here are my two cents, echoed by @CHAIRRDRF.

Unusual (and unpopular?) opinion: Evidence for me that if more people had access to convenient and secure bike parking, + subsidised kit/accessories for low income people – there would be a lot more cycling!

— CHAIRRDRF (@CHAIRRDRF) July 12, 2023

Walker said that the clicking noise they make can be a good thing as it alerts others of their ‘arrival’ — they can’t stop pedalling or the back wheel locks up, hence the waywardness; others were far less forgiving of the sound.

Had two booked today that proceeded to head off all on their own before I got there. Very disconcerting – feels like you’re going mad.

— Chris Davies (@crd37) July 12, 2023

It does make one wonder though, how is Lime making any money off these things?

A Lime spokesperson’s said that the company was aware of a “limited issue related to unlocked bikes being ridden without any power in London, and have worked to identify hardware solutions to prevent it, which are now being tested”.

The firm also said that it is encouraging users to report any videos of tampering or vandalism to its e-bikes to the relevant social media platform, and is “seeking to work with the likes of TikTok to implement a process where they are removed”.

Apparently, a fix should be coming later this year, and with the increasing rates, you’d expect the bosses at Lime’s lime-coloured office and wearing lime-coloured suits to be working on something to deal with this.

Until then…

Future tour de france winner in there somewhere….

— Ben Williams (@WaldoMumbles) July 12, 2023

13 July 2023, 09:06

"Danger" cycle lane to be resurfaced after cyclist's crash

"Danger" cycle lane to be resurfaced after cyclist's crash

Darlington Borough Council found parts of the infrastructure "not to be of the required standard"

13 July 2023, 09:06

VanMoof stores closed as “the most funded e-bike company in the world” files for protection from creditors

VanMoof stores closed as “the most funded e-bike company in the world” files for protection from creditors

Concerning times for owners of e-bikes awash with proprietary tech

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  1. HoldingOn
    July 13, 2023 at 9:28 am
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    The cyclist ahead of Mark

    The cyclist ahead of Mark Cavendish in that photo, must be a giant – Mark Cavendish isn’t short.

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    • SimoninSpalding
      July 13, 2023 at 9:46 am
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      More of this please, Cav is

      More of this please, Cav is the same height as me, and the general consensus is that I am short!

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      • HoldingOn
        July 13, 2023 at 10:03 am
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        Definitely not short.

        Definitely not short.

        You won’t be “dunking baskets” (I believe that is the correct sportsball term) but you also don’t need help reaching shelves in the supermarket!

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        • SimoninSpalding
          July 13, 2023 at 12:12 pm
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          Best I can do is dunking

          Best I can do is dunking bagels.

           

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      • wycombewheeler
        July 13, 2023 at 11:54 am
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        SimoninSpalding wrote:

        More of this please, Cav is the same height as me, and the general consensus is that I am short!

        — SimoninSpalding

        5’9″, 20 years ago that used to be average height for an adult male in the UK, but it seems like the younger generation is taller, so now we (you me and Mark Cavendish) might be slightly below average

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    • Rendel Harris
      July 13, 2023 at 10:00 am
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      HoldingOn wrote:

      The cyclist ahead of Mark Cavendish in that photo, must be a giant – Mark Cavendish isn’t short.

      — HoldingOn

      It’s Cees Bol who’s 6’4″ (194cm) and 83kg so yep, a big lad!

      ETA Cav also likes a ridiculously small bike size (when he was on Specialized he rode a 49cm frame) which makes him look way smaller than he is.

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      • SimoninSpalding
        July 13, 2023 at 12:14 pm
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        Great, so I am the height of

        Great, so I am the height of Cav, but the weight of Cees Bolindecision

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        • HoldingOn
          July 13, 2023 at 1:11 pm
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          SimoninSpalding wrote:

          Great, so I am the height of Cav, but the weight of Cees Bolindecision

          — SimoninSpalding

          You share the measurements of two professional cyclists – you must be amazing!

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        • belugabob
          July 13, 2023 at 5:58 pm
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          SimoninSpalding wrote:

          Great, so I am the height of Cav, but the weight of Cees Bolindecision

          — SimoninSpalding

          Never mind the quality, feel the width…

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        • Rendel Harris
          July 13, 2023 at 6:17 pm
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          SimoninSpalding wrote:

          Great, so I am the height of Cav, but the weight of Cees Bolindecision

          — SimoninSpalding

          I’m 4 inches shorter than Bol but 3kgs heavier at the moment, so I feel your pain!

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    • Pyro Tim
      July 13, 2023 at 10:13 am
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      He’s 5’8, and his bike looks

      He’s 5’8, and his bike looks like a kids bike compared to mine, so I’d say fairly short

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    • EK Spinner
      July 13, 2023 at 10:14 am
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      According to wikipedia he is

      According to wikipedia he is 1.75m (5ft 9″ for oldies and brexiteers)

      Not many would consider him tall, I would estimate him to be below average height, but on looking that up its only by about 25mm or so

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    • Steve K
      July 13, 2023 at 10:52 am
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      HoldingOn wrote:

      The cyclist ahead of Mark Cavendish in that photo, must be a giant – Mark Cavendish isn’t short.

      — HoldingOn

      Short arse and giant cyclist you say?

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  2. Car Delenda Est
    July 13, 2023 at 11:53 am
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    I think the fact that having
    I think the fact that having a stolen lime bike is considered cool is a key aspect to the success that wouldn’t be replicated by a free bike system.
    Lime’s losses from theft should be subsidised.

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    • Matthew Acton-Varian
      July 13, 2023 at 12:37 pm
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      The kids are commendable for

      The kids are commendable for their ingenuity. But the hire scheme, even with the “unauthorized use” is somewhat successful. The manner of its current operation should be re-evaluated whilst continuing, or even increasing, the actual service being provided.

      I live in a corner of the West Midlands which has its own fleet of “boris bikes”, and I have been tempted to try them. The only reason I haven’t is that my own bikes are more than capable for what I need them for, and for commuting purposes I would need to go through an area outside the bikes’ designated travel area, so they would stop working. But I have seen them used a fair few times, so the scheme is being utilised. About the only decent thing Andy Street and Boris Johnson have ever done in their careers.

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    • chrisonabike
      July 13, 2023 at 12:41 pm
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      Yep.  Doesn’t show any

      Yep.  Doesn’t show any special desire for cycling in the UK.  (Other than “we know a large fraction of people will cycle if we only make it convenient enough, because they do in NL, parts of Scandinavia etc. even though there are lots of cars there, they have “weather” etc.)

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  3. brooksby
    July 13, 2023 at 12:39 pm
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    It’s been a while since I’ve

    It’s been a while since I’ve grumbled about the Park Row cycle lane in Bristol… 😉

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  4. chrisonabike
    July 13, 2023 at 12:50 pm
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    On the Will Norman / Hyde

    On the Will Norman / Hyde park cycle path – presumably that video is showing that the painted line and odd bicycle symbol is not working and they’re going to make a cycle path elsewhere / very clearly separate from pedestrian area, right?

    Typical for the UK though – we’re stuck where we are because cycling is a very niche thing.  There is certainly current pent-up demand for car-free walking space.  And because cycling is niche much more of that than for cycling space.  And that’s then made difficult because a) our “lump cyclists and pedestrians together” designs / policies and b) many people want to drive to the walk, or get irritated because their car journey is held up by others driving to a walk…

    Reminder to Will – there are a (very) few places where “sharing” works, but here’s how to do pedestrians and cyclists:

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    • Creakingcrank
      July 13, 2023 at 1:00 pm
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      I think Will Norman is

      I think Will Norman is referring to the existing cycle path on Park Lane, Mayfair – the posh street next to Hyde Park with all the fancy hotels and car dealerships.

      Introduced during Covid, it has been controversial (surprise surprise), with critics suggesting that cyclists already have the option to use roads and paths through the park itself.  This Tweet is designed to counter those arguments.

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      • chrisonabike
        July 13, 2023 at 1:15 pm
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        Creakingcrank wrote:

        I think Will Norman is referring to the existing cycle path on Park Lane, Mayfair – … This Tweet is designed to counter those arguments.

        — Creakingcrank

        Thanks – it wasn’t entirely clear to me that he wasn‘t saying “look!  We’re even letting you cycle here (as long as you don’t go much faster than the pedestrians)!”

        Sounds like Will Norman is coming on a bit.  There was quite a bit of skepticism when he started (to be fair that was as much about the whole administration).

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      • ktache
        July 13, 2023 at 1:42 pm
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        Particularly black cab

        Particularly black cab drivers, with their legendary further driver training and their inability to find any sort of different route…

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    • brooksby
      July 13, 2023 at 1:27 pm
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      chrisonatrike wrote:

      On the Will Norman / Hyde park cycle path – presumably that video is showing that the painted line and odd bicycle symbol is not working and they’re going to make a cycle path elsewhere / very clearly separate from pedestrian area, right?

      — chrisonatrike

      And you just know that all those pedestrians walking along in the cycle lane will be grumbling about “bl00dy cyclists”…

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      • Rendel Harris
        July 13, 2023 at 6:15 pm
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        brooksby wrote:

        [And you just know that all those pedestrians walking along in the cycle lane will be grumbling about “bl00dy cyclists”…

        — brooksby

        They can actually often get quite confrontational, I was already eschewing that path in the spring and summer in favour of Park Lane even before the cycle lane was built. It is a ridiculous path, in the usual way of Royal Parks (as you can see in the video) there is a metre and a half for cyclists and about three metres for pedestrians, but there are big signs in the cycle path stating “Pedestrian priority”.

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  5. Owd Big 'Ead
    July 13, 2023 at 5:35 pm
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    Dutch levels of cycling?

    Dutch levels of cycling?

    At a couple of schools at kicking out time.

    Only a Guardian journo could come out with such tripe.

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    • Rendel Harris
      July 13, 2023 at 5:50 pm
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      Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:

      Dutch levels of cycling?

      At a couple of schools at kicking out time.

      Only a Guardian journo could come out with such tripe.

      — Owd Big 'Ead

      Yeah, tosser! Or… is there just the smallest chance that he might have been having a joke about the number of hacked lime bikes that are being ridden around our neighbourhood (and it’s huge, saw more hacked ones than legit hires this morning)? I know it sounds silly and probably he’s a complete idiot who believes that we have Dutch levels of cycling because of what’s going on at a couple of schools at kicking out time, but you never know…

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      • chrisonabike
        July 13, 2023 at 6:08 pm
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        Well I guess we’ll just need

        Well I guess we’ll just need to look at the numbers.

        Obviously things in a particular locality can be very different from the national picture (particularly in some areas of London – where there is cycling infra).

        1) Sustrans (2021 survey) found that nationally 2% of UK children cycle to school.

        2) “The web says” in the Netherlands, 75% of children cycle to school; in Belgium 30% – though i can’t find the original source for those figures (although if you want lots of details there’s here for example and the usual suspects have articles from longer ago…)

        So I bet it’s somewhere between (1) and the Belgian figure in (2) – which would of course be great…

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  6. Brauchsel
    July 13, 2023 at 11:50 pm
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    I’m sick of the sound of

    I’m sick of the sound of stolen Lime bikes clicking past my window all night: they manage to get through the soundproofing better than the car noises. 

    More seriously, their riders are anti-social pricks: hopping on and off pavements without looking, weaving between pedestrians at (surprising) speed. When they’re done, the bikes are dumped: middle of the pavement, jutting into the road, basically wherever they stop and fuck anyone with visual or mobility impairments, or a pushchair, or just not expecting their way to be blocked. 

    Lime don’t seem to care much about this, so they need to be made to. Fine them for bikes dumped anti-socially, stolen or not. Take their licence to pollute the streets away if they don’t sort it out within six months. That might get them to take some action. 

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I am the Harold Lepper of the BMW story, I don't remember the accident nor the next 5 hours I have little flashes of memory in that time like snapshots. I was unconscious for a minute or two after I had wound up lying on the wrong side of the road after bouncing off the car. I would never ride on the wrong side of the road nor cut a corner it is not the way I ride a bike. I would use my lanes width if safe to do so. I can only guess what happened, I have a flash of memory of checking behind just before the corner to check no car behind as I would be moving to primary thought he corner, another flash of memory going I need full brakes and it won't be enough. I think I would have adjusted my line to the middle of the road hoping they would stop just over the give way line. They actually stopped right across my lane and about 2 feet into the opposite carriage way and the back of their car was just still in the side road. If I had stayed to the far left I would still have hit them. As the Judge said to Miss Sim if he was on the wrong side of the road why did he not cycle round your car? Surely where he hit you suggests he was veering away from your emerging car. Prosecution pointed out that I was braking so hard my back wheel was off the ground, she said she didn't think I had braked. Prosecution asked if she would pull out in the same situation again she said yes 4 times then the 5th time said perhaps not. Prosecution said that it looks like the cyclist was passing this sign on the CCTV about 8m from the accident on the left side of the road, she said it did but it was deceptive the cyclist was nearer the middle of the road. Prosecution paused then said so you deliberately pulled out into the path of oncoming traffic. They tried to muddy the water because they said I overtook another cyclist before the junction, which I believe is correct I have a vague recollection that it was moving very slowly and was more of a moped looking machine. It bumbles into view several seconds after the collision. Navigates round her BMW and was never heard of again! The verdict was reported to me just now that she has been found guilty has been banned from driving for 12 months and has been given a community order of 100 hours work. I think she saw me behind the moped as she approached the junction and before the junction had decided she had time to get out of the junction if the way was clear to the left, so she pulled out thinking she had time when she had given me about 10 yards to stop.

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Rendel Harris 27 minutes ago

Surprised there's no mention of The Texan's crossfield detour in 2003, say what you like about him (and who doesn't?), the man could handle a bike…

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MaxiMinimalist 29 minutes ago

For an increasing number of Southern French drivers* turn signals are becoming optional. *plate numbers showing 13, 31 and 84

in: “This will do further harm”: Borough blames bridge closure for congestion despite soaring costs and active travel route; BMW driver accused of “forgetting what ‘give way’ meant” after collision; Dowsett altitude disappointment + more on the live blog
Rendel Harris 32 minutes ago

You are absolutely determined to bait a certain Home Counties cyclist, aren't you!

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wtjs 43 minutes ago

@mctrials23 On the country roads here (Kent) people are usually good at not close passing me but the consistently overtake me on blind corners etc. Ah! good- you seem to be the ideal person to tell us about the Kent Police policy that videos of offences against cyclists will not be looked at unless there's a collision. Is it true, or just a rumour?

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wtjs 48 minutes ago

@mctrials23 As anyone that submits footage to the police knows, its a crapshoot and certain police forces are anti-cyclist... I don't know anything about 'shooting craps' but the implication is that it's down to chance. Not very much it isn't- I know how hostile Lancashire police are to cyclists, and Kent (I'm told- if this policy has changed, can a cam-equipped Kent cyclist let us know?) has even declared that videos without a collision with a cyclist will not be viewed or acted upon. I think that many police statements that action will be taken are false and that enquiries about that action will be ignored because there was either no action at all, or the joke letter was sent. They're pretty much all 'anti-cyclist'.

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MaxiMinimalist 53 minutes ago

I'm now writing my Christmas gifts list to Santa. No doubt the bearded shrewd old man will be able to negotiate goods deals before brands release RRPs.

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mctrials23 2 hours ago

@kinderje Yep. Completely agree. People should have to do a retest every 10 years at most. People should also have to go online or take a test in person if they can't do it online every year to keep them up to date on the latest highway code changes. How often do cars let you cross at a junction as a pedestrian? Most people don't know about any changes in the highway code.

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kinderje 2 hours ago

@mctrials23 Rendell said it in the other thread - why don't we get re-tested? I have had a license for over 40 years purely due to the fact that I passed the test when I was 20. It makes no sense.

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