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Foot of Leith Walk (Edward Tissiman, Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“How to not die at the Foot of the Walk – A Guide”: Cyclists slam “misleading, death trap” layout on notorious cycle lane; Attack the traffic! Thomas Voeckler to voice driving navigation app during Tour de France + more on the live blog

Four days to go, four days to go… The Tour de France is fast approaching and Ryan Mallon is hoping he can just about contain his excitement on Tuesday’s live blog
  • by Ryan Mallon
Tue, Jun 27, 2023 09:18
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SUMMARY

  • Julian Alaphilippe returns to Tour de France as part of powerful Soudal Quick-Step team
  • Sprint trains reunited, part two?
  • Renewed appeal over time trialist killed in dual carriageway collision
  • A new kind of anti-cycling bingo: Tour de France Netflix doc gets glowing review from Spectator writer “ideologically opposed to bicycles” and “infuriating, car-impeding, road-hogging cyclists”
  • How much slower is a gravel bike on the road?
  • Double Treble is on for Annemiek Van Vleuten as Movistar announce Giro Donne squad
  • Scenes!
  • The Magna CARta Defence: Driver tries to get out of speeding conviction… by quoting medieval laws
  • The only Tour de France preview you need to read (if you like Strava)
  • Le Tour does Cars, Part Two
  • Toronto elects ‘bicycle mayor’ Olivia Chow
  • Comment of the Day: Ridiculous Sat Nav voices, Dave Z edition
  • “First time in my adult life I’ve wished I could drive”: Thomas Voeckler set to be the voice of popular driving navigation app during Tour de France – but not everyone’s happy
  • “How to not die at the Foot of the Walk – A Guide”: Cyclists slam “misleading, death trap” layout on notorious cycle lane
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27 June 2023, 09:18

Julian Alaphilippe returns to Tour de France as part of powerful Soudal Quick-Step team

Speaking of charismatic, swashbuckling French superstars, Julian Alaphilippe will make his return to the Tour de France this Saturday, where he and his Soudal Quick-Step team will be hoping for another scintillating start on the difficult Basque roads.

The double world champion missed out on selection for the 2022 Tour, with Soudal Quick-Step building their team around sprinter Fabio Jakobsen, in the middle of a difficult year plagued by crashes, illness, and injury.

But Alaphilippe – who has won six stages at the Tour during his career, as well as winning the mountain jersey in 2018 and finishing fifth overall and holding the yellow jersey for 14 days at the epic 2019 edition – seemed to have returned to something approaching his old, sparkling self at this month’s Critérium du Dauphiné, where he won a stage and finished tenth on GC.

Fabio Jakobsen Tour de France Stage 2 (A.S.O. Pauline Ballet)
Fabio Jakobsen Tour de France Stage 2 (A.S.O (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Fabio Jakobsen Tour de France Stage 2 (A.S.O. Pauline Ballet)
Fabio Jakobsen Tour de France Stage 2 (A.S.O (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Jakobsen takes an emotional win on stage two of last year’s Tour (A.S.O. Pauline Ballet)

The 31-year-old will be joined in Bilbao by Jakobsen, who will hope to add to his maiden stage win last year, lead-out supremo Michael Mørkøv, and powerhouses Kasper Asgreen, Rémi Cavagna, Tim Declercq, Dries Devenyns, and last year’s opening TT winner Yves Lampaert.

27 June 2023, 09:18

Sprint trains reunited, part two?

So Michael Mørkøv will be at Cav’s last TdF, at his last chance to win the 35th stage. A girl can dream, right? https://t.co/IqnsRUK3Bl

— Emma Bianchi #SiempreGino 🖤 (@cyclartist) June 27, 2023

Not sure how Fabio would feel about Mørkøv taking on the Geraint Thomas role during this year’s Tour, if I’m honest…

27 June 2023, 09:18

Renewed appeal over time trialist killed in dual carriageway collision

Cheryl Tye was killed when she was hit by the driver of a blue Citroën Dispatch van while competing in the East District 50-mile time trial championship on the A11 in Norfolk last year. Norfolk Police has this week made a renewed appeal for information and witnesses in relation to the fatal collision.

A11 near Roudham
A11 near Roudham (Image Credit: Google Maps)
A11 near Roudham
A11 near Roudham (Image Credit: Google Maps)

Read more here: > Renewed appeal over time trialist killed in dual carriageway collision

27 June 2023, 09:18

A new kind of anti-cycling bingo: Tour de France Netflix doc gets glowing review from Spectator writer “ideologically opposed to bicycles” and “infuriating, car-impeding, road-hogging cyclists”

While Netflix’s much-discussed Tour de France series has generated some intense debate within cycling circles over whether it was any good or not (a less intense, more gently rambling version of this debate can be found on the latest episode of the road.cc Podcast), it seems to have gone down well with the kind of right-wing writers for whom anti-cycling bingo is a daily pastime, believe it or not.

In the weekend’s Spectator – fresh from warning drivers about “vigilante cyclists” – James Delingpole submitted a glowing review, titled ‘Netflix has struck gold’, of Unchained, which he praised for its portrayal of the riders’ sheer toughness, the iconic scenery, the relatable personalities, the sport’s idiosyncratic traditions, and its exhilarating action.

(Though I would say that the series hasn’t improved Delingpole’s tactical analysis – note the reference to Tom Pidcock’s decision “to do most of his overtaking on the downhill sections”.)

2022 TdF Tom Pidcock ineos descending stage 12 CORVOS SWpix
2022 TdF Tom Pidcock ineos descending stage 12 CORVOS SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2022 TdF Tom Pidcock ineos descending stage 12 CORVOS SWpix
2022 TdF Tom Pidcock ineos descending stage 12 CORVOS SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Good overtaking there, Tom…

In any case, the series, Delingpole says is “making me warm to cycling” – but only the elite, Tour de France riding type of cyclists, not us commoners.

And he can’t resist throwing in a few anti-cycling bingo classics to make his point, either.

“I’m ideologically opposed to bicycles for all the obvious reasons,” he writes. “Still, after watching a few episodes of Tour de France: Unchained, I’ve softened my position slightly.

“Say what you like about those infuriating, car-impeding, road-hogging cyclists but the ones who participate in the big international races don’t half have some balls.”

Cheers James.

Maybe that’s the answer – after all these years of being abused for “riding like we’re in the Tour de France”, perhaps, thanks to Netflix, the one way to gain the respect of anti-cycling motorists is to, you know, look like we’re riding the Tour de France…

27 June 2023, 09:18

How much slower is a gravel bike on the road?

Ah, the eternal question (okay, the question of the last few years) finally solved by Jamie…

> How much slower is a gravel bike on the road? Testing a road bike vs a gravel bike for speed

To answer the question posed in the video, I’d be getting dropped duringthe group ride on both bikes, so it hardly matters, if I’m honest…

27 June 2023, 09:18

Double Treble is on for Annemiek Van Vleuten as Movistar announce Giro Donne squad

Annemiek van Vleuten’s final season as a pro hasn’t been the smoothest one so far.

However, the 40-year-old’s (let’s call it tactically astute) victory over Demi Vollering at the Vuelta Femenina in May means that she’s still on course to win the Vuelta-Giro-Tour triple for the second year running.

And as Van Vleuten herself has noted, with the Vuelta stepping up to become a proper, week-long race for 2023, pulling off the grand tour treble this summer would even eclipse her historic feat from last year.

But with Vollering and SD Worx looking so ominously strong during the spring – and only a badly timed nature break away from the win at the Vuelta – things won’t be so easy for the legendary Dutchwoman.

2022 TDFF annemiek van vleuten stage 7
2022 TDFF annemiek van vleuten stage 7 (Image Credit: A.S.O./Fabien Boukla)
2022 TDFF annemiek van vleuten stage 7
2022 TDFF annemiek van vleuten stage 7 (Image Credit: A.S.O./Fabien Boukla)

Which is why Movistar have selected a very strong line-up to ensure that Van Vleuten retains her title at the upcoming Giro Donne, in what would be her fourth career triumph at the Italian race and part two of a possible pre-retirement stage racing treble.

Recently crowned German road race champion Liane Lippert, who looked strong throughout the spring classics, will join the world champion in Chianciano for the opening prologue of the tough nine-day race on Friday, along with Paula Patiño, Floortje Mackaij, Sara Martín, Aude Biannic, and Sheyla Gutiérrez.

27 June 2023, 09:18

Scenes!

About yesterday Ethiopia championship final sprint.🚴‍♂️

#Love to this special Sport!🚴‍♂️❤️👌
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— Haile melekot (@evanmayo1919) June 26, 2023

27 June 2023, 09:18

The Magna CARta Defence: Driver tries to get out of speeding conviction… by quoting medieval laws

This one’s not strictly a cycling story, but it is funny.

According to a press release sent to us today by Warwickshire Police (so you know it’s going to be good), a motorist was handed six points on his licence, along with fines and charges amounting to over £1000, earlier this month after failing to provide information about the identity of the driver in relation to a speeding offence.

After the owner’s vehicle was caught at 58mph in a 50mph zone last December, the 28-year-old was sent a Notice of Intended Prosecution requiring him to confirm who was behind the wheel.

But instead of ‘fessing up, the historically-minded motorist decided to send several documents quoting medieval laws and customs – including Clause 39 of the Magna Carta, which guarantees freedom from arbitrary punishment without due process – and, bizarrely, demands for millions of pounds.

Freeman of the land document re speeding offence June 2023 (Warwickshire Police)
Freeman of the land document re speeding offence June 2023 (Warwickshire Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Freeman of the land document re speeding offence June 2023 (Warwickshire Police)
Freeman of the land document re speeding offence June 2023 (Warwickshire Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Not sure what Pope Innocent III would make of that ‘defence’, mind you…

“Let me be clear, all drivers on UK roads are subject to the statutory requirements of the Road Traffic Act, Warwickshire Police’s Dave Valente said in a statement. “This includes driving licences, vehicles being MOT’d, insured and taxed. It also means complying with the speed limit, and the consequences of failing to do so.

“Drivers who respond with extensive demands based on ancient medieval customs, will not evade prosecution.”

Good to know.

However, Valente also noted that this reliance from law-breaking drivers on medieval rights and charters is, oddly, on the increase in the UK.

“Unfortunately this is not a one off case,” he said. “We have noticed an increase in those who quote this type of material, to avoid the consequence of a speeding offence. 

“This driver found out the hard way, trying to avoid a speeding prosecution could cost them a lot more than responding in accordance with the Road Traffic Act.”

27 June 2023, 09:18

The only Tour de France preview you need to read (if you like Strava)

Fill your boots, number nerds…

The best Tour de France pros to follow on Strava
The best Tour de France pros to follow on Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
The best Tour de France pros to follow on Strava
The best Tour de France pros to follow on Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> The best Tour de France pros to follow on Strava

Goes to show that even for half of the Tour de France peloton, it doesn’t count if it’s not on Strava…

27 June 2023, 09:18

Le Tour does Cars, Part Two

After Tommy Voeckler was confirmed this morning as the voice of driving app Waze for the next month, the Tour de France has now marked the 20th anniversary of its partnership with support vehicle supplier Škoda with an insight into life behind the wheel at Le Tour.

Because what better way to celebrate the start of cycling’s biggest and most famous race than talking about gearboxes and dashboards?

“The switch to automatic gearboxes has really simplified the driving from inside a cycling race, especially for uphill portions,” says former two-time French time trial champion Gilles Maignan, who now drives the Tour race director’s famous ‘red car’.

“Also, the dashboard on the Superb shows exactly how many kilometres you have driven to the first decimal, which is very important in a cycling race to know how far you are from the finish.

“We have recently switched to hybrid vehicles which allows me to be in electric mode between the Fictive Start and Real Start of each stage, which is appreciated by the riders who have to stay right behind me on this section.”

To be fair, as anyone stuck in fumes on the commute will know, that is handy.

Tour de France race director’s car (ASO)
Tour de France race director’s car (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France race director’s car (ASO)
Tour de France race director’s car (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Asked if he needs to adhere to any speed limits, Maignan says: “Yes, we cannot go over 50 mph (80 km/h) except for the downhills if a rider is catching up to me. However, the main rule imposed by the UCI is that we cannot go over 12mph (20km/h) faster than the speed of riders.”

Maignan also added that the feeling of driving a car at the front of the Tour is very different to the four times he raced it on his bike.

“It changes a bit from back when I was a rider,” he says. “I have an important responsibility to lead out the best riders on the biggest professional cycling race in the world and my job is to help Christian Prudhomme ensure a safe race for everyone, including the spectators.”

Alright, that’s enough stories about the Tour and cars for one day…

27 June 2023, 09:18

Toronto elects ‘bicycle mayor’ Olivia Chow

Olivia Chow has made history today, becoming the first ever Chinese-Canadian mayor of Toronto and ending over a decade of conservative rule in the city.

Oh, and she’s also a massive cyclist who doesn’t even have a driving licence. Very cool.

Cycling home on my trusty old bike (with winterized studs tires) in this weather was challenging but absolutely beautiful. pic.twitter.com/x9mC0LHolm

— Olivia Chow (@oliviachow) March 4, 2023

The 66-year-old – who spoke in the run-up to the election about the need to create more cycling infrastructure in order to support Vision Zero – was notably up against right-wing anti-cycling candidate Anthony Furey, who even made removing all bike lanes on Toronto’s major roads a key part of his campaign.

> Protesters call for protected bike lane to be removed… by blocking it and forcing cyclists into traffic

When we talk about safety, why don’t some candidates talk about cyclist safety?

When we remove bike lanes, roads get worse.

There are deadly consequences to removing cycling infrastructure. I support Vision Zero.

— Olivia Chow (@oliviachow) May 26, 2023

Chow’s victory, then, is a welcome one for all of Toronto’s residents who want to get around the city safely on their bikes.

Can we now have even more cycling politicians, please?

27 June 2023, 09:18

Comment of the Day: Ridiculous Sat Nav voices, Dave Z edition

Just when you thought having Tommy Voeckler direct you around the country would be bonkers enough, apparently – and this is the first time I’d heard of this – Tour de France stage winner and original member of JV’s Crazy Gang, Dave Zabriskie, once lent his zany American voice to a Garmin sat nav sometime in the late 2000s or early 2010s, according to road.cc reader SimoninSpalding.

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800px-David_Zabriskie (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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800px-David_Zabriskie (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“My now ancient (and redundant) Garmin sat nav came with a voucher to download a free ‘premium’ voice for it,” Simon says.

“To give you an idea how long ago this was, I turned down Simpsons characters and heaven knows what else to be guided by then Garmin rider Dave Zabriskie. Even after five years of driving around with it he still had the capacity to make the whole family laugh.

“The built in Toyota lady I now rely on has never made me laugh.”

I really hope it came with a moustache you could stick to the dashboard…

27 June 2023, 09:18

“First time in my adult life I’ve wished I could drive”: Thomas Voeckler set to be the voice of popular driving navigation app during Tour de France – but not everyone’s happy

In one of the more bizarre announcements to come out this week in the lead-up to Saturday’s Grand Départ – and in news that will certainly delight French female motorists of a certain age – the Tour de France announced this morning that Thomas Voeckler will provide the voice of popular motoring navigation app Waze during this year’s race.

📢 @voecklerthomas lands in your car during the #TDF2023.

🗣️ Grab the handlebars and drive with the voice of Thomas right here 👉 https://t.co/qpU7T4BlXu@waze_France pic.twitter.com/hUNSiAbC4t

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) June 27, 2023

Which, if we know anything about Tommy V, will mean that over the next month drivers in France will be excitedly advised to slow down to a crawl before accelerating sharply, then told to weave erratically across the road, blaring their horn and sticking their tongue out at passing pedestrians in the process, while running out of fuel within touching distance of home.

(Sure that’s just a normal day’s driving in the UK, I hear you cry.)

The news that the darling of the French public for over a decade is on hand to make driving a much more pleasant and enjoyable experience has excited more than a few cyclists, with cycling writer Tom Owen noting on Twitter that this is the “first time in my adult life I’ve wished I could drive”.

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Thomas Voeckler copyright PhotoSport International (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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Thomas Voeckler copyright PhotoSport International (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The man, the myth, the sat nav voice provider

However, others are less impressed with the Tour’s latest partnership with something motoring-related.

“Waze is the app that enables speeding drivers to cut through quiet neighbourhoods, where kids are normally playing on bikes,” wrote cycling activist Harry Gray.

> Waze called out for directing drivers onto closed roads in parks

Back in 2021, you may recall, The Royal Parks publicly contacted the sat nav software app, which is a subsidiary of Google, to stop them from directing motorists down closed roads in parks.

The charity tweeted Waze with a screenshot that showed a route directing drivers through Richmond Park, which is a renowned hotspot for cyclists in the English capital.

Perhaps Tommy Voeckler was just looking to hang out with his mates?

27 June 2023, 09:18

“How to not die at the Foot of the Walk – A Guide”: Cyclists slam “misleading, death trap” layout on notorious cycle lane

Weird zig-zag designs, ridiculously slender ‘unicycle’ lanes on bends, seemingly ubiquitous parked cars, dodgy bus stops with no space for waiting passengers, cyclists, or pedestrians, poor surfaces, and confusing junctions – Edinburgh’s Leith Walks appears to have it all when it comes to questionable cycling infrastructure.

> Cycle lane notorious for parked cars “urgently” needs bollards, councillor warns “genuine concern” of fatality

The latest head scratching section of Scotland’s most talked-about bike lane to generate some online discussion – thanks to an astonishingly detailed mega-thread on Leith Walk’s ills posted by Edward Tissiman – appears at the Foot of the Walk, featuring what Edward astutely described as a “HGV/cyclist blender”:

💀HGV/cyclist blender. This misleading layout at FotW could see a cyclist end up under a left turning lorry. See thread below this tweet for more: pic.twitter.com/NNYr7jb1Gx

— Edward Tissiman (@edtiss) June 23, 2023

“This misleading layout could see a cyclist end up under a left turning lorry,” Edward tweeted, before posting a petrifying video to support his claim (though in this particular case, it would have been a left-turning bus driver)…

This video emphasises just how dangerous the Foot of the Walk is to cyclists. Disaster averted in this case due to alert cyclists and an observant Lothian buses driver. pic.twitter.com/ETWGQz2XK2

— Edward Tissiman (@edtiss) June 25, 2023

The junction from the cyclist’s perspective doesn’t appear any more convincing:

Check the cyclists’ perspective here 😱😱😱 https://t.co/dgRzdkyLXy pic.twitter.com/xxyTCSldAN

— Dave McCraw (@david_mccraw) June 26, 2023

Shocking and so dangerous, i bet there’s loads of near misses and brakes jammed on at this location.

— Michael (@MTB_Cycler) June 26, 2023

This is absolutely insane! First thought watching it is that you don’t get long on the lights to cross the road… then I realised that’s not a dedicated set of lights for cyclists. Insane!

— JoeC 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@JoeCrofts) June 26, 2023

Though local cyclist Dave McCraw reckons he has a solution:

“How to not die at the Foot of the Walk: a guide” coming soon pic.twitter.com/5Sis1pGYpo

— Dave McCraw (@david_mccraw) June 26, 2023

The junction, branded a “death trap” by cyclists on Twitter, has been described by thread-starter Edward as the “single biggest problem with Leith Walk at the moment”, while cycling campaign group Spokes said they have raised the “ongoing danger” with the city council on several occasions. 

Thanks @edtiss

Agreed, very real ongoing danger, with the lights allowing motor traffic &🚲to turn across each other

Our planning group has raised it several times with officers & cllrs, including very recently

We are told the signals team looking at it

Urgent action needed! pic.twitter.com/UlhlMDOd26

— Spokes CycleCampaign (@SpokesLothian) June 26, 2023

Ah, Leith Walk – when will it ever end?

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39 thoughts on ““How to not die at the Foot of the Walk – A Guide”: Cyclists slam “misleading, death trap” layout on notorious cycle lane; Attack the traffic! Thomas Voeckler to voice driving navigation app during Tour de France + more on the live blog”

  1. quiff
    June 27, 2023 at 10:07 am
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    It’s a really poor design

    It’s a really poor design that creates needless conflict but, in principle, it’s very simple – anything turning left has to ensure the cycle lane is clear:  Rule H3, 211. 

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    • Safety
      June 27, 2023 at 10:19 am
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      quiff wrote:

      It’s a really poor design that creates needless conflict but, in principle, it’s very simple – anything turning left has to ensure the cycle lane is clear:  Rule H3, 211. 

      — quiff

      I don’t disagree in principle but I’m not going to put my life on the line every time I use it it hoping the driver behind me knows and understands that rule.

      It’s also interesting to see that the bus in the video is one of the new double axle types which proved unsuitable and too large for some of the initial routes they were deployed on due to their size and turning circle.

      Edinburgh Clowncil, you couldn’t make some of it up.

       

       

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      • quiff
        June 27, 2023 at 10:39 am
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        Oh, I agree. In principle it

        Oh, I agree. In principle it should work fine because ‘the rules’, but in practice it absolutely needs to be redesigned before someone dies. 

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      • Matthew Acton-Varian
        June 27, 2023 at 11:04 am
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        Safety wrote:

        It’s a really poor design that creates needless conflict but, in principle, it’s very simple – anything turning left has to ensure the cycle lane is clear:  Rule H3, 211. 

        — Safety

        I don’t disagree in principle but I’m not going to put my life on the line every time I use it it hoping the driver behind me knows and understands that rule.

        — quiff

        Since when does everyone follow the HC? The ones that are backed up by criminal law get ignored on a daily basis by numerous drivers(including speeding, red light running, mobile phone use and driving whilst under influence of drugs/alcohol, no insurance/MOT/tax). What makes you think that the more advisory rules (which are primarily written as etiquette to settle civil disputes) will get better treatment?

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  2. brooksby
    June 27, 2023 at 10:52 am
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    So they’ve painted in that

    So they’ve painted in that cycle lane at the Foot of the Walk just as a navigation aid so cyclists can work out how to go through a gap in the kerb?  It doesn’t grant any sort of priority at all??  Alrighty then… 

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  3. Car Delenda Est
    June 27, 2023 at 11:12 am
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    Brighton’s new Labour council
    Brighton’s new Labour council strikes again as another active travel project, slated to start this year, is paused: https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2023/06/26/final-phase-of-valley-gardens-revamp-will-not-happen-this-year/

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  4. SimoninSpalding
    June 27, 2023 at 11:41 am
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    Re the Tommy Voeckler sat nav

    Re the Tommy Voeckler sat nav voice.

    My now ancient (and redundant) Garmin sat nav came with a voucher to download a free “premium” voice for it. To give you an idea how long ago this was, I turned down Simpsons characters and heaven knows what else to be guided by then Garmin rider Dave Zabriskie. Even after 5 years of driving around with it he still had the capacity to make the whole family laugh.

    The built in Toyota lady I now rely on has never made me laugh.

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    • Gimpl
      June 27, 2023 at 1:48 pm
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      SimoninSpalding wrote:

      Re the Tommy Voeckler sat nav voice.

      My now ancient (and redundant) Garmin sat nav came with a voucher to download a free “premium” voice for it. To give you an idea how long ago this was, I turned down Simpsons characters and heaven knows what else to be guided by then Garmin rider Dave Zabriskie. Even after 5 years of driving around with it he still had the capacity to make the whole family laugh.

      The built in Toyota lady I now rely on has never made me laugh.

      — SimoninSpalding

      I used to have a Volvo where the only choice was male or female, I chose the female despite her sounding like a german dominatrix, I quite liked it TBH yes

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    • Clem Fandango
      June 27, 2023 at 2:44 pm
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      I just want a Mandalorian one

      I just want a Mandalorian one that only says “this is the way”

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      • perce
        June 27, 2023 at 3:01 pm
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        I do too.

        I do too.

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    • Simon E
      June 27, 2023 at 6:26 pm
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      DZ on the sat-nav sounds like

      DZ on the sat-nav sounds like great company.

      If I was driving in an unfamiliar city (they are not my natural habitat) I’d like John Ogmios to be guiding me round with his calming zen motoring observations.

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      • perce
        June 27, 2023 at 6:34 pm
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        I’d like the sat-nav voice

        I’d like the sat-nav voice from the Armstrong and Miller show.

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        • Rendel Harris
          June 28, 2023 at 4:41 am
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          perce wrote:

          I’d like the sat-nav voice from the Armstrong and Miller show.

          — perce

          The politically incorrect satnav? “Turn left at the job centre. Look at them all, queuing up to fill their pockets with your money…”

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          • perce
            June 28, 2023 at 6:41 am
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            Very un-PC I must admit. Had

            Very un-PC I must admit. Had to share a car with someone who had Yoda as the voice – quite amusing at first, soon became unbearable.

      • ktache
        June 27, 2023 at 6:52 pm
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        He did some good bits at

        He did some good bits at Glastonbury.

        Unexpectedly engaging and charming BBC series.

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  5. the little onion
    June 27, 2023 at 11:43 am
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    James Delingpole is a

    James Delingpole is a horrible, horrible man. A professional contrarian and snob, who only gets a job, and listened to, because of his privileged upbringing.  He has nothing worth saying, yet brays loudly to anyone listening.

     

    (my favourite James Delingpole moment is when he tried to explain to a professor of climate physics why the professor was wrong in saying that climate change was real, because of something that Delingpole heard in an English literature lecture at university). https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-aerosols-research-misinterpreted-to-alarming-extent-says-study-author/ 

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    • eburtthebike
      June 27, 2023 at 1:00 pm
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      Delingpole would appear to be

      Delingpole would appear to be one of those aerosols.

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  6. IanMK
    June 27, 2023 at 11:50 am
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    Some of my colleagues think I

    Some of my colleagues think I have “some balls” cycling to work because I’m sharing the same space with drivists with attitudes like Delingpole.

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  7. HoarseMann
    June 27, 2023 at 12:34 pm
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    There are some cyclist

    Leith walk: There are some cyclist priority lights with “not in use” tape over them, so eventually traffic will be held back whilst cyclists go forward. But for now, they should not have opened that cycle lane, it’s a death trap. I would also like to see that pointless kerbed island removed, someone is going to crash into it and there’s absolutely no need to make cyclists swerve like that to go straight ahead.

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    • chrisonabike
      June 27, 2023 at 3:17 pm
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      Yeah – without this

      Yeah – without this connecting to a cycle path (or – let’s get sadly realistic here – a bus / cycle lane) this looks a bit lost.  Obviously the idea is that this serves as corner protection like the classic Dutch designs.  Unfortunately – probably “because pedestrians” – this one doesn’t appear to have much upstand at all.  (Not that it would make much difference for a generation, as cars, lorries and buses swing over it…)

      The other side of course features the special “diet cycle lane”.

      This point was one of the guddles from early days of the design if I recall – it was “the tram must continue down Constitution Street” – taking up the space. 

      Again – maybe in practice while dangerous this isn’t the worst thing – I suspect lots of folks wanting to go left (east) will either cut across further up (past Tescos?) to avoid the junction or just take to their feet here – you’ll be jostling with a fair few pedestrians at various points during the day.

      Zooming out a bit if something could be sorted out on Easter Road (for connections via / to Leith Links and on to the east) or Bonnington Road (connections to WOL / Paths to north) that would ease things a bit.

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  8. OnYerBike
    June 27, 2023 at 12:54 pm
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    It looks like the answer of

    It looks like the answer of “how to survive” is to completely ignore the cycling infrastructure – note the other cyclist in Dave McCraw’s video also not using it. 

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    • Car Delenda Est
      June 27, 2023 at 11:32 am
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      They’re ignoring the useless
      They’re ignoring the useless paint and using the useful built cycle infrastructure, so not quite a John Forrester

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  9. wycombewheeler
    June 27, 2023 at 12:55 pm
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    Quote:

    “I’m ideologically opposed to bicycles for all the obvious reasons,” 

    Being a fan of congestion, pollution and climate change, and opposed to good health are the “obvious reasons” I’m guessing

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    • the little onion
      June 27, 2023 at 1:43 pm
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      Because he hates everything

      Because he hates everything and anything that isn’t about posh-boy privilege and nepotism. He really is full of bile.

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      • Owd Big 'Ead
        June 27, 2023 at 3:16 pm
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        Indeed.

        Indeed.

        Priviliged private education, before being part of the illuminati at Oxford University.

        Fuck the hoi polloi, eh James?

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      • Flintshire Boy
        June 27, 2023 at 4:11 pm
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        .

        .

        Unlike – oh, I dunno – yourself, perhaps?

        .

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        • marmotte27
          June 28, 2023 at 3:03 am
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          What’s your positive
          What’s your positive contribution to… anything really?

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  10. eburtthebike
    June 27, 2023 at 12:55 pm
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    “I’m ideologically opposed to

    “I’m ideologically opposed to bicycles for all the obvious reasons,”

    Yes indeed James, you are.  Those obvious reasons obviously being prejudice, bigotry and stupidity.

    “Say what you like about those infuriating, car-impeding, road-hogging cyclists but the ones who participate in the big international races don’t half have some balls.”

    Whereas you appear to have one less than Hitler.

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  11. brooksby
    June 27, 2023 at 1:31 pm
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    I’d imagine that Delingpole

    I’d imagine that Delingpole isn’t alone in that he appears to support cycling as a sport (especially when it’s being done far far away from where he might ever drive) but hates cycling as a mode of transport.

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  12. brooksby
    June 27, 2023 at 3:08 pm
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    https://www.theguardian.com

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/27/car-road-deaths-rising-pedestrians-cyclists

    The car is king in the US – and pedestrian deaths are rising. Where is the outrage?

    Pedestrian deaths are at a 40-year high and the number of cyclists hit by cars has increased since the pandemic. The most astounding part? These are preventable tragedies

     

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    • chrisonabike
      June 27, 2023 at 3:28 pm
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      Where is the outrage?  Behind

      Where is the outrage?  Behind some dusty files and tupperware in the small cupboard mostly reserved for some other outrage.  Outrage that gets taken out – for a bit – more frequently.  Like how it’s terrible that people (and not infrequently kids) are killing others (including kids) with guns.

      It’s probably having to share space with the another very small bit of outrage that the ready availability of guns means that there are a lot of successful “no-one expected…” suicides in households with guns.  I’m not even sure that counts as outrage though because of the belief that “they’d just kill themselves another way”.

      That’s probably Gun Godwin!

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  13. Rome73
    June 27, 2023 at 3:14 pm
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    I was in the Eurostar

    I was in the Eurostar despatch today discussing taking one of my eBikes to Paris. Only if you can dismantle it and get it in a small box, I was informed.  But it’s an eBike and I can dismantle it but it’s a hassle and can’t we just put it on the train like before Covid. No, the Eurostar guy replied. You forgot about brexit. Er? I grunted. Yes it has to be checked by customs and for that reason it has to be packed. You will notice, he continued, there are no benefits to brexit. No sh*t  Sherlock. I regularly travel between London and Paris and I can confirm that moving stuff between these two close by cities involves, hassle, time, paperwork and cost. Because of brexit. And what are the benefits again? Imagine if I was trying to sell bikes.  Before brexit Eurostar would let you travel separately from your bike. You could leave one day and the bike could arrive a few days later. Now you have to accompany it – because of brexit inflicted customs and friction. Self inflicted stupidity.  

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    • DoomeFrog
      June 27, 2023 at 4:17 pm
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      On this basis shouldn’t car

      On this basis shouldn’t car owners need to put their car in a box at the ferry port with customs seals and full paperwork and admin fee paid!

      And what happens if you want to cycle onto a ferry?

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  14. DoomeFrog
    June 27, 2023 at 4:08 pm
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    So glad we have a distinction

    So glad we have a distinction between evil road and pavement hogging Cyclists and Mountain Bikers.

    https://www.peeblesshirenews.com/news/23610269.innerleithen-biker-says-abused-cyclists-event/

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    • HoarseMann
      June 27, 2023 at 8:51 pm
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      DoomeFrog wrote:

      So glad we have a distinction between evil road and pavement hogging Cyclists and Mountain Bikers.

      https://www.peeblesshirenews.com/news/23610269.innerleithen-biker-says-abused-cyclists-event/

      — DoomeFrog

      Well it appears when you dig a bit deeper, that the pavement hogging cyclists were the mountain bikers and the moaning ‘mountain biker’ who nearly ran over a cyclist cleaning their bike while trying to park their car, was actually a gravel bike rider returning from a UCI race.

      The only two events that were recently in those locations at the same time were:
      https://www.sportive.com/events/the-gralloch-trek-uci-gravel-world-series/2023-05-20/6278/cycling

      and

      https://tweedlove.com/events/yt-tweedlove-king-queen-of-the-mountain-2023/

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  15. HoarseMann
    June 27, 2023 at 9:26 pm
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    If that driver wishes to be

    If that driver wishes to be tried under a medieval law, I hope they’re willing to receive a medieval punishment!

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    • chrisonabike
      June 27, 2023 at 9:33 pm
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      Perhaps they’re hoping for

      Perhaps they’re hoping for trial by combat but the participants have to turn up in the vehicle used at the time?

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      • HoarseMann
        June 28, 2023 at 6:54 am
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        Some did try that! https:/

        Someone did try that! (Different weapons though) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1416262/Court-refuses-trial-by-combat.html

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  16. eburtthebike
    June 28, 2023 at 5:50 pm
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    “How to not die at the Foot

    “How to not die at the Foot of the Walk – A Guide”

    I sincerely hope that this installation was risk assessed for cyclists, and that some enterprising person from Auld Reekie will be doing an FoI to get it.

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Rendel Harris 2 hours ago

And how are those attracted/paid for? Through bigger audiences. There are 53 million black people in the USA, and around 1.2 billion in Africa. How much extra sponsorship and TV coverage do you think women's racing might get if there were a few black US and African women competing? That's not, in your idiotic phrase, "wokeism", it's good sound commercial common sense.

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog
perce 3 hours ago

@chrisonabike I don't know how they would get confused - one's called Jack and one's called Nigel.

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog
Mr Blackbird 3 hours ago

There is so much depressing deja vu here. The defence factors taken from the usual tick box list : "poor lighting", "dark clothes", "didn't see him" etc. The usual rehabilitation path comments : "full of remorse". The common previous : "drugs, and alcohol", "no licence" etc. Even your comments about the tipper truck industry ring a bell. Look up the 1957 British film "Hell Drivers", if you haven't seen it. It must have have been inspired by events of the time. I did wonder why Renshaw had been on remand. Was he a flight risk?

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
Midgex 3 hours ago

The cycle path at that point is (part of) the main road, not the side road.

in: Cycle path “creating a constant stream of arguments between drivers and cyclists” should be altered “so cyclists give way to vehicles”, demands councillor expelled from Reform UK
mctrials23 3 hours ago

Its not fucking careless if you drive a vehicle and don't check your mirrors. Its fucking dangerous and its fucking deadly. How on earth are we still dealing with this bollocks. Everything about this is maddening. The fact he tried to weasel out of it and blame the cyclist. The fact hes avoided prison. The fact he was still driving after such a long history of dangerous driving. The fact he is still only banned for 12 months despite killing someone due to his inability to drive safely.

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
the little onion 3 hours ago

The tipper truck industry is an absolute Wild West. Scandal ridden, partly because of the complete lack of regulatory oversight and the pay-by-the-load system which incentives dodgy driving. I hope there is an investigation into the firm’s recruitment process and a corporate manslaughter charge. We urgently need a HSE investigation into the whole industry

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
chrisonabike 4 hours ago

Perhaps they're confusing the writer with a certain - ahem - new poster?

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog
ktache 4 hours ago

My deepest condolences to the family and friends of Zinovly Savyulak.

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
mdavidford 4 hours ago

Sounds like a recommendation to me - after all, who'd want their writing to be emotionally empty?

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog
mdavidford 4 hours ago

I think MM's point is more fatally flawed than that - people *do* complain about inequality in running. There might be less inequality than in cycling, but there's still an over-representation of white people and barriers to participation.

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