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“Impressively dumb” narrow cycle lane criticised as “box ticking exercise” after repainted lane barely covers double yellow lines; Steep gravel climb awaits Vuelta peloton + more on the live blog

Thinnest bike lane in the UK?
It’s good to be back, stumbling through emails, eyes filtering through tabs for what could make a mildly amusing blog lead. And I think I’ve found an answer, or at least one that would be slightly funny if it weren’t also a little tragic.
Thinnest bike lane in the UK?
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u/special_noodles in
ukbike
“Brighton and Hove is often talked about like a cycling paradise, but this is apparently a cycle lane. The top of Dyke Road. It’s a popular route, in and out of town yet this is deemed acceptable.”
It should be said the poster is referring to the gap between the white lines and the kerb, rather than the pavement where the photo is taken. I say gap, but as can be seen from the photo, the lane is entirely swallowed up by the double yellow lines painted to restrict vehicles from parking there.
A further search engine rummage finds it is genuinely a bike lane that runs along Dyke Road, though even when the lane begins there’s no real sense the authorities are interested in protecting the cyclists.
In fact I would go further and say that this lane is actively endangering all road users, attempting to pen cyclists in an unreasonably narrow space, increasing the odds of clipping a kerb, and giving drivers the self-confidence to ignore normal overtaking standards to drive past the cyclist without affording additional space, presuming the paint is infrastructure enough.
The original poster adds this current disaster began when it was recently repainted, branding the new lane “pure nonsense”.
Fellow cyclists are unimpressed…
“That’s actually a cycle lane? That’s impressively dumb on the part of whoever signed that off.”
“Box ticking exercise”
“Absolutely bonkers. That’s Brighton and Hove council for you…especially if this is being repainted as a cycle lane, it needs a formal complaint, which should lead to a road safety assessment update by a competent person against the latest cycle infra standards that explicitly calls out this substandard trash.”
“That’s not a bike lane. Ignore it and take primary position.”
Indeed, the latter advice seems wise, and means once again individual cyclists will endure the wrath or irate drivers for taking the safest position on the road and not using cycle infrastructure. Some things never change…
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And riding on all that lovely slippery yellow paint.
If B&H had consulted some cyclists beforehand they would have saved themselves the cost of engaging a lining contractor to paint these idiotic lines. The thought process has clearly been "We need width X for the widest vehicles to proceed on the speed limit in a car free manner. So that leaves width Y for the cycle lane. They ought to be grateful." The problem is that some motorists will expect cyclists to stay within the lane, while riding over drain covers, debris etc as well as clipping pedestrians with their handlebars.
Not to mention that 'the increasing number of electric vehicles' probably only gets us to half of all vehicles by around 2035 and 80% by around 2045.
It would make much more sense to me that whenever roads are being resurfaced, active consideration should be made about how it road can be reconfigured for all users in mind and not just cars - for example how a particular road/segment fits in with the overall bike infrastructure and planning.
Erm, both Ventoux and Huez can and have been ridden as part of a circuit. Ventoux famously has a challenge that involves climbing (and descending) multiple different routes in the one ride.
@jackcycles I am not sure electric cars reduce carbon emissions. This is only true if the electricity used to charge the batteries is generated without fossil fuels, otherwise it simply shifts the emissions from roads to power stations. It may be that increased used of electric vehicles will lead to lower pollution levels in towns and cities but even this is not clear cut due to extra tyre, brake and road wear from extra weight. As for the UK only producing 1% argument that is the thinking that has got into the mess we are in. Every individual's contribution is negligable so that no individual's actions can make a difference. Things will only change when everybody is compelled to reduce their emissions and that is where governments come in. We've tried hoping that people will choose to do the right thing and it's failed miserably. Until polluters pay the true cost of their actions we will continue on a spiral of self destruction. Lets hope the next iteration of evolution results in beings that realise the true value of the world they inhabit.
-“Unavoidable” pavement driving defended by Guernsey environment and infrastructure committee – who says there’s “no single solution to road safety”- Holey moley. Though, I'm wondering if we can adapt the "but cyclists don't pay road tax" argument to this. There could be a big publicity campaign about the issue with a new law in place that states that all drivers in the area have to pay an extra tax for the damage done to the pavements by driving their heavy large vehicles on them. They can publicise the repair cost and show how much it works out per car owner... When compared with the zero damage done by people walking, this should hopefully raise people's hackles... And my own example of it: https://youtu.be/_qO2FIe5poE
First thing: climate effects we have now will continue regardless. Second thing: The UK is responsible for 1% of global emissions. So anything we do from now on will not fix the problem Which isn't to say getting people on to bikes, public transport or walking isn't a bad idea. But there's a dependency chain of before you can do *that*, you have to do *this*, and before you can do *this*, you have to have *that*. And at the head of it are energy, land, infrastructure, and money.
Are some of those cars e-cars? IIRC from the "car crashes into building" thread some of those are quite likely to fall over and/or get crushed. Even in station car parks!
Can Plugge explain how his circuit idea would accommodate Alpe d'Huez, Mont Ventoux etc? It obviously wouldn't. I suspect this is just a smokescreen for his doing a Gianni Infantino in wanting to monetise the sport - circuits would in his view mean he could end the tradition of cycling being free to watch by charging on circuits, which he has actually talked about previously. It might be cycling, but not as we know and love it.
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It would make much more sense to me that whenever roads are being resurfaced, active consideration should be made about how it road can be reconfigured for all users in mind and not just cars – for example how a particular road/segment fits in with the overall bike infrastructure and planning.
If B&H had consulted some cyclists beforehand they would have saved themselves the cost of engaging a lining contractor to paint these idiotic lines.
The thought process has clearly been “We need width X for the widest vehicles to proceed on the speed limit in a car free manner. So that leaves width Y for the cycle lane. They ought to be grateful.”
The problem is that some motorists will expect cyclists to stay within the lane, while riding over drain covers, debris etc as well as clipping pedestrians with their handlebars.
And riding on all that lovely slippery yellow paint.