While you’ve been stuffing your face with Celebrations (and complaining about the new tiny tubs), drinking out-of-date Baileys, and watching the daily deluge of cyclocross on the TV, I’ve been diligently keeping note of all the cycling debates and titbits that popped up over the festive period, to help keep you entertained during the sleepy post-Christmas, pre-New Year period on the live blog.
[Disclaimer – I’ve been doing all of the above too, especially indulging in that sweet, sweet cyclocross, but I’ve also been taking the odd screenshot on my phone of any particularly interesting cycling-related social media posts. The grind never stops, eh?]
Anyway… First up on this leftover turkey sandwich of a live blog is what I’ve been pitching to Channel 4 as a new alternative to the King’s Speech – James Blunt on Cycling.
(He’s got a posh voice, was more popular 20 years ago than he is today, and his links to the military are constantly brought up out-of-context – are we sure Blunt isn’t a royal?)
In any case, the You’re Beautiful hitmaker/self-deprecating social media clapback supremo/Cockney rhyming slang subject decided to join the murky world of bike-themed Twitter arguments – on Christmas Day, of all days – after spotting Jeremy Vine’s latest penny-farthing video.
In the clip, the cycling broadcaster was forced to “bail” and jump off his penny-farthing after an Ocado delivery driver pulled out across the protected bike lane.
“Dear Ocado, Cyclists have priority over your vehicles in cycle lanes. Especially when they are on penny farthings. Thanks so much,” Vine wrote.
> Jeremy Vine rides penny-farthing along cycle lane... gets blocked off by a driver who ignored cyclist priority
After watching Jezza’s latest cycle lane encounter, Blunt – presumably while preparing the garlic mushrooms – decided to interrupt his Christmas lunch to publicly call for some festive goodwill between cyclists and motorists.
“As both cyclist and driver, I don’t think we should pit ourselves against each other,” the 50-year-old tweeted in response.
“Maybe try to share, rather than compete, for the space… and a little patience and tolerance would go a long way – especially to the Ocado guy delivering people’s turkeys. Happy Christmas.”
Well, at least he didn’t just write ‘So long, Jeremy’… What? Nobody a fan of the deep cuts?
And to be fair to Blunt’s “as a cyclist” comment, he did post a photo of himself in March arriving at a gig in Berlin by bike:
Nevertheless, regardless of his intentions, Blunt’s intervention unsurprisingly inspired the classic anti-cycling reaction from the usual suspects on Twitter (though many did note the poor design of the junction in question, while Adam Tranter even weighed in with a questionable pun-based version of Wisemen).
That inevitable pile-on then prompted Vine to reach out to the 1973 singer (sorry, I don’t know any of the post-2007 material) to argue the point that patience and tolerance also need to be supported by safe infrastructure and decisions by drivers.
“‘Sharing the space’ results in 1,700 road deaths every year,” the broadcaster wrote. “We know now that vulnerable road users need segregated lanes to keep them safe.
“I uploaded this post in a good-humoured way (I’m laughing at the end), just because it shows how even segregated space gets encroached on. The more encroachment, the more danger, the fewer people cycle, the more drive, the more danger.
“The pile-on I'm getting as a result of your (totally rational) reply indicates the dangerous levels of anger many road users carry with them, much of it, weirdly, directed at people cycling. Happy Christmas James, I love you man!”
To be honest, I thought ‘Patience’ was a Take That song, anyway... I’ll get my coat.
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Videos like that from Jezza trivialise the real dangers cyclists face on the roads every day imo
It really was a nothing burger of an issue that JV could have handled easily as most of us do out riding all the time without any comment, annoying for sure but like Blunt alludes to sometimes you've got to sync to allow smooth movement for everyone not be the rusty cog sticking all the time.
It annoys me more because past two days I've actually felt it was getting so bad on the roads with the close passes, the stupid overtakes and general dangerous driving, my risk for reward-ometer was telling me it ain't worth risking your life just for a bike ride.
If only I had a badly positioned Ocado van to get grumpy about on a ride instead of the half dozen people i meet every ride who seem set on trying to kill me.
Why can't the answer be "neither"?
I suspect both "nothing burger" occurrences and "risking your life" ones largely stem from the same places: drivers not paying enough attention / not prepared to make a bit of effort / accept a tiny bit less convenience. And road designs which reinforce this.
All of which ultimately comes from our goals / understanding of what roads (and public spaces) are "for". Which currently always includes "convenience for (lots of) drivers" because "driving is important" and in fact subconsciously "drivers are more important people than non-drivers". And which doesn't include enough emphasis on "making it easier to travel without driving" or even "preventing people from getting killed and/or injured".
because Im realistic, I dont know how Jezza has commuted through London for so many years and still finds the energy to get worked up about stuff like that,it cant do his blood pressure any good.
whereas all he has to do is hop on his bike for a tour of the Surrey Hills or Box Hill, and he'll find a whole new set of problems cyclists encounter which I dont think he has ever covered in his videos, probably because he thinks those rides can be abit unsafe.
one of the cars I encountered yesterday who couldnt be bothered to give enough space, the reg is clear as day, yet the car tax system says it doesnt exist, which probably means its not insured or MoT'd either, how unsurprising their manner of driving belies an air of uncatchability.
and if the driver had hit me, theyd probably just have driven off anyway,and yet we arent talking or even focussing on issues like that, or the cyclists who have been killed on the roads the past week, theres been at least 2-3 reported in the press, probably a bunch more seriously injured that arent reported or followed up on, yet were focusing about how slightly annoying it is to occasionally have to accomodate other vehicles whilst riding in a city where you pretty much have to do that all the time to stay sane.
I don't think it would be a great idea to pass behind a vehicle with a big blind spot, especially on a penny farthing.
I'm guessing not that very manoeuvrable either.
I thought Harrison Ford was America's greatest bike loving president
There's a requirement to give way here, a requirement to be considerate to other road users, and a requirement to look out for the safety of more vulnerable road users. The Ocado driver failed at all three.
Now, it's very common for a vehicle turning right to block the near lane while waiting for a gap on the far lane. They shouldn't be doing that either, because they've failed to give way and failed to be considerate, but so many drivers do it that they must think it's the correct way to drive. It isn't.
Ah, the typical Roadcc response......Try living in the real world.
Vine once again makes an issue out of very little......
What then is the point in building those cycle lanes and putting in a 'Copenhagen' style junction if it's going to be ignored by drivers? When I am riding and a driver is required to give way to me I should be able to expect them to stop and give way, but just yesterday a car pulled out in front of me forcing me to brake to avoid a collision. This happens more often than not.
It makes the cycle path pointless and more dangerous than the road. So, in most cases I'll ignore any cycle infrastructure and ride in the road.
If you think that living in the real world means that it's okay to drive like an arsehole then I think it's obvious what my opinion of you is.
Well, kind of. But also that is "I'm alright Jack!"
As things stand there will only be more drivers and almost certainly more driving (and roads, parking, crashes...). As a cyclists your road tax * is going towards supporting all of that. This one incident is maybe small beer, but it and the responses to it are another indication of - if we do want less driving ** - an attitude which has to radically change in the UK.
* Ho ho ho!
** Currently the only places to have imposed some kind of a brake on the growth of driving have been those which have provided support for another private transport mode as an alternative to the private motor vehicle for some journeys. Currently the best option for that is cycling. (Of course cycling is just one part of a much bigger picture. However it's a part which is a very well understood technology. And when combined with other changes to reduce motoring it has the least cost / fewest problems and the most side-benefits).
so a civilised exchange poisoned by other people on social media it's almost as if social media is the problem isn't it?
What social media? It was all scrapped decades ago in favour of anti-social media, in the interests of oligarchs and tight-righties who have an allergy to that socialism; and to other people in general.
Even this media tends to encourage we readers to indulge ourselves with dollops of othering, stereotyping and general pitchfork-marching. I'm personally thinking of getting a burning brand as well!
Social media has never close-passed me though? (Although it may be that drivers who were interacting with social media on their phones have. Or were encouraged to by it...)
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