Jeremy Vine’s air horn blasts apology from impatient driver; Lachlan Morton’s Alt Tour jersey auction hits $3.5k; Who needs tyre levers?; GBDURO & Cape Epic films; Van der Poel’s niggly knee; Fancy riding a century this weekend? + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Jeremy Vine + gas horn + London drivers = fantastic entertainment
Kensington is now so dangerous for cyclists I have bought a gas horn. pic.twitter.com/Zl5yTtBAjz
— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) December 13, 2021
If you’ve been a live blog regular over the past few years you’ll know how often Jeremy Vine finds himself dodging dangerous drivers as he makes his way around the capital. Well, the broadcaster and radio presenter may have found the solution to his problems…an extremely loud solution…
Strapping a gas horn to your handlebars might not be the most aerodynamic choice, but for getting other road users’ attention it seems to be alright. Vine was able to let these drivers (and every pedestrian in the area) know exactly where he was.
> Video: Driver turns across Jeremy Vine’s path on new pop-up bike lane
“And that’s just the first day,” Vine told us…we’ll be keeping our eyes peeled for more of his air horn adventures.
It’s safe to say this taxi driver would have got a blast of the horn…back in April, Vine shared a clip of a driver inexplicably ignoring road markings and pulling out on him. “Idiotic mistake by me this morning as I forgot that road markings are not operational on Piccadilly,” the Vine on 5 host told his Twitter followers…
Remember this shocker? Helicopter ER on Really 10pm tonight
You may recall that I crashed back in May thanks to a mad squirrel that got tangled in my front wheel, if you’re interested take a look tomorrow night… pic.twitter.com/h0bEGzicKl
— timothy egerton CText ATI (@timegerton3) December 13, 2021
Timothy Egerton’s squirrel-induced crash got a lot of attention on the site back in the early summer. It’s getting an airing on Really’s Helicopter ER tonight at 10 too. That’s channel 17 on Freeview, 142 on Sky or 128 on Virgin.
> Cyclist breaks cheekbone in high-speed crash with squirrel
Timothy hit the scampering squirrel near Keighley in West Yorkshire while he was riding at 30 to 35mph. We often joke a rogue squirrel or pheasant is about as bad as British wildlife gets (to the amusement of our US and Australia-based readers)…but in this case it turned out to be very dangerous, leaving Timothy with two fractures in his cheekbone and no memory of the impact. The squirrel did not survive.
Give it a watch tonight…
Lachlan Morton's Alt Tour jersey eBay auction hits $3.5k
One day to go…
If you’ve got a spare $3,500 (£2,644) you can get this well-worn EF-Education Nippo jersey in time for Christmas. You’ll have competition though…there have been 82 bids so far for the jersey worn by Lachlan Morton during his Alt Tour. The auction closes at 12:45pm tomorrow.
For a deep dive into just how hard the challenge was, take a read of our feature comparing Lachlan’s Whoop data to the numbers the EF-Education Nippo riders selected for the actual Tour put out…including an incredibly rare 20.8 out of 21 on Whoop’s strain scale.
Roadside repairs
This is a great idea, a roadside bicycle repair station with a work stand, tools and a pump all built-in, and free to use (spotted on flanks of Mount Teide /🇪🇸) pic.twitter.com/LxwSAFIRD7
— the Inner Ring (@inrng) December 13, 2021
They’re not just for the pros racking up the winter miles in Tenerife either…
Richard Glazer said they’ve got two self-funded ones in Farringdon, Oxfordshire, while George Harrison said he’d seen some in Scotland.
Others shared their roadside workstand photos from Lake Garda to Poland via Las Vegas, Alsace, New York and Cork. That rhymed.
Mathieu van der Poel postpones cyclo-cross return due to ongoing knee issue
I assume when they say ‘knee injury’ they really mean Van der Poel is back in his engineer’s lab having a software update ahead of 2022. Only joking… the world champ has pushed back his return to the cyclo-cross scene by a week, which means his seasonal debut will be at that mega clash with Wout van Aert and Tom Pidcock on Boxing Day in Dendermonde.
> No Oscars here… Mathieu van der Poel stars in cringeworthy window shopping sponsor video
He had been set to return this weekend at the home World Cup round in Rucphen, the Netherlands, but it was not meant to be…
“This has been decided by the rider and team management after consulting with the team’s performance and medical staff,” Alpecin-Fenix explained. “The main reason for this is the healing process of his knee injury which takes longer than initially anticipated, as a result of which he has not yet been able to complete specific cyclo-cross training.”
New do-it-all bag launched for Bromptons
The new £149.99 Restrap City Loader is said to offer the rugged practicality Restrap’s bags are known for, in a design that will handle whatever the everyday Brompton rider needs. “We know that city life demands us to be flexible and the City Loader is built to match. Spare clothes? Groceries? A stove and bivvi bag? The City Loader can do it all,” says Restrap.
A removable shoulder strap and carry handle at the rear of the bag make the City Loader comfortable and convenient when off the bike, says Restrap.
With two 100% waterproof, fold-closure compartments this bag offers up to 20 litres of internal storage and is mounted to a Brompton front carrier block via a unique integrated fitting.
The main compartment is secured by an adjustable fastening strap with a Fidlock buckle, which offers additional external storage for a jacket or dry bag. If you’ve got a smaller load, compression straps on the sides of the bag act to keep the bag compact. Then, accessories like bottles or locks can be stored in the side pockets.
Rapha Gone Racing - Cape Epic 2021
The Alt Tour is not all Lachlan Morton’s been up to this year, he also did the Cape Epic — the “world’s toughest mountain bike race” (according to Rapha). To be fair, it’s hard to argue when you hear what it entails…seven stages and a prologue across sinuous single track and dusty farm roads with the added complication of the South African heat and occasional downpour. And for an added twist, all the riders compete in pairs…
Fancy taking on the Solstice Century Challenge this weekend?
Restrap is running its bi-annual Solstice Century 100-mile Challenge this upcoming weekend (18 and 19 December), which can be completed in one go or across multiple rides, indoors or outdoors.
“Over the winter solstice weekend on 18th & 19th of December, make the most of the dwindling daylight and ride 100 miles within the solstice weekend,” Restrap suggests. And there’s some added incentives to do so…
All riders who complete the challenge will be able to redeem an exclusive Solstice Century patch for their efforts and all entrants will be submitted into Restrap’s prize draw. One lucky rider will receive a huge kit bundle worth over £500, which consists of a gilet, long sleeve jersey and bib tights from Restrap’s friends at Albion Cycling along with a Restrap Bar Pack.
The competition is open worldwide and as with previous editions the challenge will be hosted on Restrap’s social media platforms – Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and on its Strava club.
You have until 23:59GMT on 19/12/21 to sign up to the event and receive the chance to claim a patch.
New bike storage at Barts Hospital
Every large workplace should offer this for its employees, but for the NHS it should be absolutely standard. https://t.co/PBpp01IAV3
— Chris Boardman (@Chris_Boardman) December 13, 2021
Primož Roglič: "I’d rather people think of me as the man who gave the best of himself every race. The Tour is not an obsession"
Slovenian sensation Primož Roglič has spoken to Flemish newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws and distanced himself from the idea that winning, or not winning, the Tour de France will define his career. And while he would, of course, “love” to win the sport’s biggest prize, being remembered as “the man who fought for it every time” is more important to the 32-year-old.
“I’d rather people think of me as the man who fought for it every time,” Roglič explained. “The man who gave the best of himself every race. That’s who I want to be. A fighter. The Tour is really not an obsession. So it’s not a frustration that it hasn’t worked yet.”
The Jumbo-Visma leader also spoke about Wout van Aert’s ambition to win the green jersey in 2022, saying he thinks challenging for multiple goals is possible. “In theory, anything is possible. We can get green and yellow – and also the polka dot jersey with Sepp Kuss — but the team has to determine what our main goal is, and then we have to have a plan that works for the two of us,” he continued.
> Wout van Aert to target the green jersey at the 2022 Tour de France
“It must be the intention that Wout and I help each other. We have to find a way so he can go for a stage win and I can try to get some time at the same time. We have to think about that carefully.”
Air horns: the must-have bit of kit for 2022?
Same here, canister taped to the down tube, horns on the handle bars. Christ was it loud.🤣
— billy adam (@bjmackay638) December 14, 2021
Inspired by Jeremy Vine, a few of you got in touch with your happy memories of blinging up your bike with a noisy horn…
Guilty as charged… pic.twitter.com/5qGyiEX9H5
— ETA Services Ltd (@ETAservicesltd) December 14, 2021
When using an air horn goes wrong...
Fair warning, Jeremy. Not everyone will take too kindly to being blasted with decibels. Especially, if like this frustrated cyclist from 2018, who appeared to make it their mission to make sure every pedestrian within striking distance of any bike lane got a blast…anyway, the video doesn’t end too well…
And for the slightly more tame US edition…
Tyre-lever-hands-man: the newest superhero
Thumbs of steel, no levers for tubeless here. https://t.co/v7XCUUXCEB
— NorthRoadCycles 💙 (@NorthRoadCycles) December 13, 2021
You can almost feel your thumbs going numb just looking at this photo…
Mark Beaumont tells the story of GBDURO
It might be hard to believe this year’s GBDURO was Mark Beaumont’s first ever race. The ultra-endurance rider has set numerous records during too many epic rides to count, but only raced once (so far). That was this summer at the 2,000km self-supported Land’s End to John O’Groats mixed terrain ride, now known to us all as GBDURO.
The adjective epic is overused in cycling (by me as much as anyone) BUT this year’s edition was truly epic. Only 14 of the 250 starters completed the route…by stage two through Wales, more than half the field had quit.
In the end (spoiler alert) Mark marked his first race with a win after a mechanical issue ended perennial challenger Angus Young’s lead.
“This is truly one of the most punishing rides on bike, body and mind,” Beaumont said. “There were no easy miles across such relentless terrain. Just finishing was a victory because the person you are really racing is yourself. And to finish first? First you must finish.” And to think that’s from a man who broke the around the world record…
Tuesday positivity
Elizabeth is 13 years old. She was doing her paper route for a newsagent when her bike was stolen two weeks ago in Enfield.
After seeing a @MPSWinchmoreH
police appeal on Twitter, we knew we wanted to help in any way we could.
Yesterday, we donated her a new bike pic.twitter.com/7Jg6aXOKRr— Londra Bisiklet Kulubu (@LondonCyclingC3) December 13, 2021
Jeremy Vine's air horn blasts apology from impatient driver
Even if you do the worst overtake in the world, apologise and we’ll be friends pic.twitter.com/CYL4PDA3Uc
— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) December 14, 2021
Well, well, well the noisy horn even got a compliment from this driver…and an apology. “Sorry I did see you” (I just couldn’t be bothered to wait) “I do apologise”…
That was enough for Vine, who in a very British scene, replied: “Oh, you’re so polite. No, not at all […] take care, no, don’t worry…”
Was it the air horn? Or was it just getting caught out while sat in your company’s van? Guess it depends how cycnical you want to be…
Best reply? Drum roll please…
Mick Hucknall’s fallen on bad times.
— R C D Mitchum (@PaulCra33107260) December 14, 2021
Somehow I don’t think this is the last we’ve seen of the air horn.
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Same here. I have a helmet with built in front and rear lights and have a red light clipped onto my bag plus lights attached to my bike front and rear but still have drivers putting me in danger. My commute is about two miles and I normally have around four incidents a week where I have to brake hard or take other evasive action to avoid being hit by distracted drivers. A big percentage of these are drivers coming on to roundabouts when I am already on them.
Glasgow's South City Way sounds great, does it not? As a user from before and after I wholeheartedly welcome the construction of the segregated route, but so much of the detailed construction is poor, if not unsafe. I provide a link to a presentation I made when construction was half complete (a personal view) and the construction errors remain outstanding to this day: crossed by high speed flared road junctions, poor colour differentiation, car door zone risks and so on. And yet cyclists come because they feel safe. It's a complex subject but IMHO the feeling of safety (or lack of) is a critical component. https://drive.proton.me/urls/B67AK44G90#CFueBGjscoWr
I can only conclude that you haven't been into a city in the last few years. Food delivery riders in particular are riding overpowered "eBikes" that are basically mopeds ... powered only via the throttle without pedalling at significantly more than 15mph. Problem is they look like normal bikes/ebikes and not like mopeds so that is what people describe them as. My reading of the article is that it is those vehicles that are being talked about here.
I have the Trace and Tracer, which have essentially the same design, albeit smaller and less powerful. The controls are a little complicated but only because there are loads of options. In reality, once you've chosen your level of brightness, you'll only cycle through 1 or 2 options and it's dead simple. The lights are rock solid, bright, with good runtimes. The only thing I find annoying is charging them - if your fingers are slightly wet or greasy, getting the rubber out of the way of the charging port is a pain in the arse.
Dance and padel is all very well, but when is Strava going to let me record my gardening?
You can use it to check whether it's raining.
If it's dusk, i.e. post-sunset, then the cyclists should have lights on and thus the colour of their top is irrelevant. If you want to complain about cyclists not having lights when it's mandatory then by all means do but their top has nothing to do with it.
All of my Exposure lights with a button allow cycling through the modes with a short press. I have five of those; it would be odd if Exposure didn’t allow this functionality with the Boost 3. I also have two Exposure Burners if I remember correctly: they are rear lights for joysticks that clip on and are powered through the joystick charging port. They don’t have a button. None of my Exposure lights have failed. I looked at the Boost 3 review photos but none showed the button, so far as I could tell. I also have Moon lights. Good experience generally. One did fail, possibly because it was so thin it used to fall through the holes in my helmet onto the ground. Also, the UI and charge indicators vary for my Moon lights. Perhaps the latest ones are more consistent. My worst lights ever were from See.Sense.
Steve really doesnt like exposure products does he? Boost and Strada marked down for being too complicated. While the Zenith and Six Pack reviewed by his colleagues give them rave reviews (as most exposure products have on road.cc), the Zenith even touted as 'even more intuitive to use' with the same controls.
They are more interested in dog shit. https://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news/people/lancaster-police-launch-search-for-person-who-sprayed-dog-faeces-with-pink-paint-5605519
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I think JV would be better
I think JV would be better off putting some lights on his bike. It looks like he’s only using a helmet mounted light, which are good for off roading in the dark, but not great in town. You’re also not legal without (the right) lights mounted to the bike.
HoarseMann wrote:
I dunno, standard blinkers, even reasonably powerful ones won’t show up on the road in an average city. If you don’t ride in the country then there’s no need for a super powerful light on your bike (my strada 800 is on its 200 setting when I’m in the city)
If you’d actually seen a
If you’d actually seen a picture of his bike, you’d know you wouldn’t have to make that (rather poor) statement.
If he has got lights on his
If he has got lights on his bike then fair enough. I just don’t think a helmet light is enough on its own. They don’t look immediately like a bike to the average careless driver.
STiG911 wrote:
I’m not sure you’ve actually seen a picture of this bike either! I’ve had a look on twitter and he’s not posted a ‘this is what it looks like’ photo as he sometimes does.
I wonder if you had seen a picture of a different bike and assumed it’s the same one? Have you got a link?
You have a point. A google
You have a point. A google image search shows 2 bromptons (a white one – which I think is the current one with straight bars, and a darker one with the “P handlebars” but not a full view of either – that I could see from a quick search.
Secret_squirrel wrote:
I don’t think it’s even a Brompton – just looks like a standard hybrid type bike to me.
I should clarify that I’m not trying to have a go at JV, he is highlighting issues that cyclists face everyday. But there are a couple of things about this post that bother me.
If he’s calling people out publically like this, then he’s got to be seen to be following all the rules himself, otherwise the message will be lost on those in most need of receiving it.
More importantly, I think it’s possible that *if* his (front) lighting is only a bright, focused beam helmet light, that could actually be contributing to the problem by making him appear further away than he is. He might be better off with no front light at all.
He’s previously posted photos
He’s previously posted photos & videos of his lights – he has lights. All the lights. The issue is very rarely that cyclists aren’t visible, it’s almost always that drivers don’t look carefully. (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/dec/15/cycling-bike-accidents-study)
HoarseMann wrote:
I think lights are less relevant in town due to streetlights and spill from premises. In addition car drivers also have their own lights to help light things up.
The only requirement as far as lights are concerned is to obey the law. This, as far as we can see, he was doing.
Edit, a top lawyer and road safety campaigner might be able to catch him out on the height of the mounting (it’s over 1500mm). But w@nkers like that only get rich people acquitted – there’s less money in prosecutions.
Captain Badger wrote:
Totally agree that if you are looking, you ought to see a cyclist under streetlights. Let’s put the legalities to the side, as it’s such a flippin’ minefield!
What I think might not be helping here (and it’s only a might and up for discussion!), is if he only has a single, bright, static light on his helmet (on the left side), there are two issues I can think of. One is that the light might not be visible to traffic from the right, as his helmet is obscuring it (this could be why the van pulled out). The second is a light that is mounted higher up, will appear to be further away (this could be why the car pulled out).
I looked at the video again and really can’t see any lights on his bike. Certainly not a bright one that casts a beam on the road ahead. If it was me, I would have the bright beam mounted to the bike and blinkies on the helmet.
Well I wouldnt use a bright
Well I wouldnt use a bright beam light at all in an urban environment as I dont think its appropriate, the car that almost pulls out gets a full beam in the eyes for example, do you really want to momentarily blind people at the moment they might pull out on you?.
But Vine is caught in that eternal escalation mindset of ramping up lights and prompted him to now using this horn in the first place as well, in that he believes the issue he faces in Kensington is he isnt visible enough on the road so needs as much bright light and sound around as possible because then drivers will see/hear him.
But I’ve always felt the majority of videos he posts these incidents display a lack of roadcraft, which a daily commuting bike rider, who has been doing this for a while shouldn’t still be experiencing regardless of lights or gas powered horns.
Awavey wrote:
I think a bright beam that is fixed and pointing down at the road, especially if it is StZVO compliant, would be appropriate. The beam it casts on the road can also be quite noticable in the same way those laser lights that throw out a bike pattern are.
But I agree that it’s of little value mounted to a helmet (and possibly counterproductive) unless you want to illuminate the face of a driver for the camera!
Awavey wrote:
If they are blinded by a bright light, cl;early something is coming towards them and they shouldn’t pull out.
One might argue that the doubt whether that something is a bke, motorbike, or full on suburban mini battle tank might lead to less inclinatino to pull out than knowing it is a cyclist
On addition as a cyclist I
In addition, as a cyclist, I routinely have been dazzled to complete blindness by approaching cycles with deliberately high set lights on the narrow sections of the bike superhighway, particularly blindingly when they are set to flashing mode.
“But I’ve always felt the
“But I’ve always felt the majority of videos he posts these incidents display a lack of roadcraft, which a daily commuting bike rider, who has been doing this for a while shouldn’t still be experiencing regardless of lights or gas powered horns.”
May be he’s not highlighting issues for his own benefit but for the benefit of those just starting to cycle who do not yet understand how willing some motorists are to put them in danger to save a few minutes or more often seconds.
I think you will find that
I think you will find that under new laws, Jeremy Vine is “protesting” and that horn is causing “unwarranted disturbance and public nuisance” so may be subject to up to 51 weeks in prison.
Glad to hear that Timothy is
Glad to hear that Timothy is on the mend, but I think we should also have a moment of quiet reflection for hawkinspeter’s relative, gone too soon.?
SimoninSpalding wrote:
Totally agree. The hedgehogs will avenge though.
SimoninSpalding wrote:
There’s plenty more where that came from
Anyone who recalls the
Anyone who recalls the previous joy of non fungible tokens being discussed here may be interested that an ape nft was sold for 3000 USD and not 300000 USD due to a typo. Somehow they lost money on something that doesn’t exist or something. Anyhow I’m not buying any fungible or non fungible stuff.
Funghible tokens are a load
Funghible tokens are a load of rot…
Cash is a fungible token so
Cash is a fungible token so as you don’t want any I am pleased to take it of your hands. I’ll even do it for free. ?
Fishpastesarnie wrote:
I feel you’ve missed the joke from the fun guy above.
Or did I miss the news where they are now making cash out of mushrooms?
Motorist jailed for running
Motorist jailed for running over cyclist who spat on his car – https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/14/motorist-jailed-for-running-over-cyclist-who-spat-on-his-car
Alan Moult, 74, jailed for 18 months after road rage incident that broke Nick Cook’s pelvis and ribs
This is a serious miscarriage
This is a serious miscarriage of justice – the driver was charged with causing serious injury by dangerous driving, i.e. a driving offence, whereas in any sane world he would have been charged with GBH.
I note this thug will be free to drive his car, possibly once again deliberately at other road users, after a paltry 3 year ban. Should be a life time ban for using a vehicle as a weapon.
Do all banned drivers have to
Do all banned drivers have to pass a test to regain their licence? If so he will be 77 by that point so it may have the effect of a lifetime ban. If it isn’t automatic to have to pass a test, why not?
the little onion wrote:
I’m not convinced that the sentence would have been any different if he’d been charged with GBH. Compare it with this – https://road.cc/content/news/man-who-punched-cyclist-leaving-him-partially-blind-jailed-288061
28 months for GBH. The victim ended up partially sighted in his left eye and with a metal plate in his jaw. The defendant had previous convictions for robbery and battery.
There should be a difference,
There should be a difference, it is perhaps unreasonable to consider a punch to the face, though occasionally unfortunately lethal, as an expression of lethal intent, where as deliberately accelerating a nearly 2 tonne motor vehicle into a human being should have no other interpretation.
Accelerating a 1850kg vehicle
Accelerating a 1850kg vehicle at a human being in anger with the intention of running them down is fully equivalent to pointing a shot gun at their face in anger and deliberately pulling the trigger. The prosecution should have been for attempted murder.
You beat me to it!
You beat me to it!
Absolutely disguisting. And, as the Onion has said, this ought to have been treated as a violent act not ‘just’ (?) as a driving offence.
Suspect this will be
Suspect this will be unpopular, but here goes anyway… I don’t subscribe to the view that Jeremy Vine deliberately cycles into trouble to generate video content, but in that particular video, he did seem quite keen to get footage of him using his new horn. Particularly in the second example, approaching what he has clearly identified as a potential hazard, he takes his right hand off the bar a long time in advance and chooses to cover the horn instead of his front brake. If you can do both at the same time, fine, but if I had to choose, it would be brake every time.
I think he’s initially
I think he’s initially covered the horn because he spotted the dark car ‘nosing out’ and suspected it might pull out on him. Then before he’s removed it after realising it wasn’t going to move, he spots the ‘developing hazard’ of the light car haring round towards him with no intention of stopping.
That’s how I read it too. But
That’s how I read it too. But, even for the dark car, I think I’d have been covering brake rather than horn – especially as I got closer to it.
quiff wrote:
I can sympathise with your view, based on cycling advice I was given. Right or wrong – if you’re around bad drivers no one cares if you were in the right if you’re dead. This however, doesn’t excuse bad driving and so it’s unfair to attack Jeremy in this situation.
Silent (ish) but deadly!
Silent (ish) but deadly!
Not asking cyclists to submit
Not asking cyclists to submit camera data but apparently if you do Dashcam footage from your Car, it seems to work with prosectutions on the standard of driving. Unless as NMOTD 671 shows the Police think there was nothing wrong with the standard of driving when against cycles.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-59657711
Top-rated lawyer and road
Top-rated lawyer and road safety expert Nick Freeman featured on both BBC North West tonight and the general BBC website (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-59649900) discussing his petition for cyclist registrations.
Mr Freeman said “While there are many responsible cyclists [like Nige] there are still too many who ride with little respect for the rules of the road.”
His appearance on BBC TV can be seen on iPlayer at https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0012kyk/north-west-tonight-evening-news-14122021, around 13 minutes in. The feature, which begins with footage of cyclists breaking the law with impunity, is well worth a watch.
Garage at Large wrote:
I’ve not watched the video, but the article seems little more than the BBC publishing a press release from Freeman. I’m not sure how you can describe a petition that has now closed and barely scraped over the 10,000 as ‘gathering momentum’.
But car numberplates don’t
But car numberplates don’t identify the driver, just the registered keeper. Maybe they should identify the driver?
When you pass your test you get your personal driver plates and you have to attach/remove them from your car everytime you use it? They could be a nice fluoro high-viz colour too!
HoarseMann wrote:
This is an especially relevant point, given that Freeman has used loopholes around identifying who was the driver to get his clients off.
Steve K wrote:
Just think of the amount of bureaucracy it would save the likes of Manchester United. They wouldn’t need to keep detailled records of who was driving Sir Alex F.’s car.
Especially as he’s very generous with it and lends it out all the time!
Switzerland manage this fine.
Switzerland manage this fine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Switzerland
The vehicle license number plates are assigned to the car owner and not to the vehicle. If the owner changes the vehicle, the same vehicle license number plates are attached to the new vehicle
Although you can still borrow
Although you can still borrow someone else’s car. It seems like you’re supposed to inform the authorities if someone else is going to drive it, but most people don’t bother. The important question, though, is whether they’re any better at holding the registered owner responsible for offences, or if you can still get away with saying ‘I don’t know who was driving it’.
It seems very strange that in
It seems very strange that in a country that has constantly rejected the idea of people carrying identity cards, a press that coined the phrase “nanny state” and a Convervative party where 99 MPs voted against “Covid Passports”, anyone would think that any citizen should have to display a number that identified them to the world was a good idea. Worse still this idea appears to come from people that would probably identify as libertarian.
I’ll stop there before I invoke Godwin’s law……
At least Mussolini made
At least Mussolini made cyclists stop at red lights…! (darn, that’s done it now).
I see the BBC have put bottom
I see the BBC have put bottom feeding ambulance chaser and person who likes to get people off who actually severely speed Mr poophole on.
Mr Freeman should have been asked why, if he considers himself such an expert on road safety, he keeps on defending people who did dangerously speed but he will argue for them to get off and continue to dangerously speed instead of telling them to slow down in the future. But of course the BBC decided to have him on, have no-one refute the claims he makes, mention anything about him only literally scraping the deadline by making up many many lies in the last few weeks or asked him why he was equivalating the driving he makes his living defending with cycles that are no where near as dangerous and cannot get to speeds he was claiming.
His appearance doesn’t need to be seen on iplayer though.
Hmm, I use thumbs to fit
Hmm, I use thumbs to fit tubeless all the time, perhaps at the ripe old age of 38 I’ve finally found something I’m good at ?