“All it takes is paint on the ground to make us feel safer”: Cyclists call for action after bikejackings warning painted on popular cycle path; Cavendish talks down all-time Tour de France record; Impossible to use cycle lanes + more on the live blog
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"If I don’t win one, I’ve won 34, I’m alright": Cavendish talks down all-time Tour de France record
“Just one more, one more please!” is what a lot of people will be hoping and screaming come this Saturday and then waiting for it to happen for three weeks. Cycling is a wonderful sport.
But the Manx missile is unbothered and in his lane. In the 2021 Tour, Cavendish took four stage wins to go level on the all-time record with arguably one of the greatest of all-time, Eddy Merckx, but then missed out on making it to the last year’s race with Soudal Quick-Step.
Now donned in new colours (I mean Astana Qazaqstan’s beautiful blue and gold Tour kit), he is ready to go again, for one last time, in hunt for the elusive 35th stage win. In an exclusive interview with Eurosport for the upcoming documentary ‘Mark Cavendish: All In’, due to be released today, he has talked down his chase of the ultimate moment of glory.
“You are unquestionably the 𝐆𝐎𝐀𝐓” 🐐
Don’t miss 𝐌𝐚𝐫𝐤 𝐂𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐡: 𝐀𝐥𝐥 𝐈𝐧 on Eurosport 1 and @discoveryplusuk Friday at 6.15pm UK time! 📺👇@MarkCavendish | @SportsOrla pic.twitter.com/y5JYWi6EHm
— Eurosport (@eurosport) June 29, 2023
When asked about the stage win record, Cav said: “I can’t answer because I’m not making it up when I say it’s irrelevant.
“I just want to win as much as I can win. And if I can never win again at the Tour de France…”
“There are two people in the world [himself and Merckx] that are more qualified than anybody else to tell you how hard it is to win a Tour de France stage. That’s why if I don’t win one, I’ve won 34, I’m alright. But if I can win 10 more I will be buzzing because I know how hard it is to win one!”
I am not crying, you are crying…
> Mark Cavendish sprints to sensational farewell Giro d’Italia stage win in Rome
"Impossible to use cycle lane"
Just a thought, cycling with your kids shouldn’t be an adventure sport?
Cycling in Acton with my kids – pavement and cycle lane both impossible to use @EalingCouncil pic.twitter.com/beQOQv2sZM
— Drew White (@drewsnx) June 29, 2023
17 teams agree to share Tour de France radio messages for live broadcasts
It’s all kicking off! Earlier this month we reported that ASO, the race organisers for Tour de France were considering broadcasting team radio live on television, similar to Formula 1. And some team bosses weren’t pleased.
> “Bleep bleep! Go faster! Bleepity bleep… bleep”: Tour de France to broadcast team radio live
But news from Weilerflits reveals that five teams have opted out of the initiative. The teams, namely are Alpecin-Deceuninck, Cofidis, Jayco-Alula, Movistar and Groupama-FDJ. Groupama’s omission is probably expected, given boss Marc Madiot was opposed to the idea from the get-go.
“Can you imagine we’d reveal our conversations on TV?” said the French team’s manager. “Do you really conceive a TV camera being allowed to film a football team trainer giving his players their half-time instructions?”
Rest of the 17 teams have apparently agreed to participate in sharing their radio messages for live broadcast. What’s surprising is that the ‘bigger’ teams like Jumbo Visma and UAE Emirates seem to have accepted the format without much reluctance.
Can you imagine the scenes of Jumbo DS instructing Roglič and Vingegaard to tag-team Pogačar on Col du Granon, while UAE watched helplessly and tried to strategise what to do as the yellow-jersey wearing Slovenian used every muscle in his body to keep up, all while dealing with a Geraint Thomas on his wheel?
You know the Tour de France is about to start when … ?
Are you even a real cycling fan if you haven’t done at least a handful of these…
☔️ Torrential rain in Italy again, Giro Donne TT already delayed twice as Paternoster goes faster than Van Vleuten
Rain and the Giro, name a better love story.
Absolutely treacherous conditions in Italy…
#GiroDonne 🇮🇹
The stage has been paused again ❌@rubyr_g was out on course as the decision was made, just like @BakerGeorgia earlier on 🫤 pic.twitter.com/bAwJFkRJFk
— Team Jayco AlUla (@GreenEDGEteam) June 30, 2023
Giro d’Italia Donne, which kicks off today with a time trial stage from Chianciano to Olbia, has already fallen victim to the downpour which bugged the men’s race earlier in May. Today’s stage has already been suspended, restarted once the rain calmed down, and then suspended again as the rain returned.
Team Jayco AlUla’s Letizia Paternoster, in her home race, has gone provisional fastest, pipping last year’s winner Annemiek van Vleuten from Movistar by one second.
And as you can see, the conditions are neither fortunate nor enviable.
There’s rain… and then there’s 𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐒 at the Giro d’Italia Donne 😳💦 pic.twitter.com/THIm5fRaHR
— Eurosport (@eurosport) June 30, 2023
Riders’ starts are currently suspended in the #GiroDonne23, due to torrential rain. ☔️👇🏼 pic.twitter.com/qBqnq2Mtjn
— Movistar Team (@Movistar_Team) June 30, 2023
"It's not just cyclists who benefit from bike lanes"
Checkmate.
Talbot Road yesterday – it’s not just cyclists who benefit from bike lanes. pic.twitter.com/W9ukKGIL5Y
— A56 Safety Campaign (@A56Safety) June 30, 2023
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The all-important question today: Who’s going to win the Tour de France? We ask road.cc’s ‘expert’ panel!
If you couldn’t tell, it’s all celebratory here at road.cc today. For once, all of us can’t wait to wake up the next morning! And what better way to celebrate than to put on the monocle, light up a cigar, and pour a glass of fine Chardonnay, as Dan, Ryan, Dave, Jamie and Simon get on the esteemed expert panel and discuss the all-important question: Who’s going to win the Tour de France?!
> Who’s going to win the Tour de France? We ask road.cc’s ‘expert’ panel
Giro d'Italia Donne stage 1 cancelled after several riders crash due to treacherous rain conditions
Bad news from Italy. After suspending the opening day time-trial stage twice due to torrential downpour, the organisers have cancelled the stage after the rain made it near-impossible for riders to stay on the bike, with several hitting the ground.
Last year’s winner Annemiek van Vleuten said that it was good that the race got cancelled. She tweeted: “I had to start in 1st block and was crazy crazy slippery. On the straight parts I felt my back wheel sliding…Hope everyone is ok that crashed. Was a lottery. Good got cancelled.”
🇮🇹❌ CANCELLED: The opening TT of the #GiroDonne23 in Chianciano Terme will not be resumed.
No podium nor results – we officially start on Saturday with what originally was stage two.
📸 @GettySport pic.twitter.com/MsgRFutejQ
— Movistar Team (@Movistar_Team) June 30, 2023
Van Vleuten and Marianne Vos had set the second and third-best time so far, while Trek-Lidl’s home-racer Letizia Paternoster had the provisional fastest time.
Team DSM-Firmenich’s boss said: “We knew before that the weather was going to be an influence so we changed the order for that. It started raining even earlier than expected though and was really heavy for the first riders.”
Today’s stage has been essentially neutralised then, with tomorrow’s stage now marking the start of the official times for the Italian tour. The race will continue tomorrow with a 102km route from Bagno a Ripoli and finishing on a descent at Marradi.
Compared with the conditions of Annemiek & Marianne for example #girodonne pic.twitter.com/hvSbsgRIZt
— Bart Hazen (@Bartoli84) June 30, 2023
The Tour starts tomorrow, and so does the shooting of another series: Netflix's TdF Unchained Season 2 coming soon
If you haven’t watched the Netflix documentary series vaguely about a cycling race in France, what have you been doing?! Probably something better, there are honestly quite a few candidates.
As much as it’s fun to take digs at the show, I think it’s here to stay for the at least a couple of more editions. Given how well Drive to Survive (the parallel show about people driving fast cars) has been doing, it’s safe to say Netflix will take bets on Unchained too.
It’s been confirmed that season two of the show will begin filming as the Tour gets underway, and will coming to your TVs/laptops/mobile phones soon!
😁 RDV l’an prochain @NetflixFR !
🤝 Une série rendue possible grâce à @francetv et les équipes cyclistes ! Et d’ici là ? Replongez-vous dans la saison 1 ou suivez le Tour en direct dès demain !📱 See you next year @netflix!
🤝 A series made possible thanks to @francetv and the… https://t.co/aabHBaCrh2— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) June 30, 2023
And in case you want to know what we thought of the show, here’s the latest episode of the road.cc podcast where Ryan, Suvi and I discuss the ins and outs of it, and how much more interested we would be in a show solely focused on Thibaut Pinot’s farm animals.
Cyclist killed by hit-and-run driver, who should have been in prison, was “highly negligent” and “partly responsible” for fatal crash, says judge
Netflix just keeps giving: Mark Cavendish documentary to air in August
For all those worrying about your subscriptions, for this one you won’t have to add anything else to your direct debits. That is, assuming you already have Netflix. Which is a bad assumption to make but hey I am also living in the same capitalist hellscape as you, which keeps demanding more and more subscriptions…
Back to the point, Netflix has released the preview for its latest cycling documentary, titled “Mark Cavendish: Never Enough”, and this time, it’s out to track the “rise, fall and resurrection” of the Manx Missile from 2016 to 2021.
I can’t help but wonder did they have this in the works since the last seven years?!
Oh and I forgot to mention, the preview involves voiceover by some American dude called Lance Armstrong. Weird choice considering he didn’t have anything to do with cycling?
On the eve of his last ever Tour de France, we’re excited to announce new documentary MARK CAVENDISH: NEVER ENOUGH.
The film charts the rise, fall and resurrection of a genuine sporting great as he attempts to prove the doubters wrong and make cycling history. Coming 2 August. pic.twitter.com/DmGeqKu3HF
— Netflix UK & Ireland (@NetflixUK) June 30, 2023
First of all, I am not a fan of the name. Never Enough? Why? The lad has the most stage wins, is one of the best sprinters to walk this earth, and an indusputable legend of the game. Why ‘Never Enough’?
And what if he wins a stage in this year’s Tour. How relevant is it going to be, considering the movie only charts his career till 2021?
Anyway, keeping up with the fly-on-the-wall cycling documentaries, first in football and F1, and now from cycling, it’s definitely a rewarding time to be a sports fan. I’m not complainging, only critiquing!
Director Alex Kiehl, who has worked on other documentary series like Netflix Bad Sport that charts stories of sport, and Crime and Four Days that Shook Britain about a series of terror attacks in 2017, said: “Mark and I developed a fantastic rapport across the last year – we talked at length about the biggest highs and deepest lows of his life and it was a privilege to tell his story.
“I was blown away by how open and genuine both Mark and his wife Peta were in their interviews. Their contributions allowed us to make a truly gripping and emotional film.”
Okay fine, I’ll give it the benefit of doubt (you know I will be there watching it the day it comes out). I’m only wondering what’s this guy Lance Armstrong got to do…
Why is some American has-been featured prominently? I don’t see the point of asking someone that’s never won anything at the Tour for comment on a guy that’s maybe about to win the most stages ever.
— Euan Gordon (@EuanGordon1) June 30, 2023
"All it takes is paint on the ground to make us feel safer": Cyclists call for action after bikejackings warning painted on popular cycle path
Is this the first time that paint on roads has been of any use to cyclists?
If you’ve been a road.cc live blog regular, you’d know that’s not true. Because we have seen at least one more instance like this where fellow cyclists had to look out for each other, and warn about areas prone to not only bikejackings, but also being a risk to personal safety.
This latest public service graffiti can be found on Lea Bridge Road in Waltham Forest, London, with the text: “Bike muggings on the bridge ahead” (the text is upside-down, I know; more on that in a bit).
This is Lea Bridge Road in Waltham Forest, well known problem spot amongst local cyclists but why isn’t anything being done about this to make us feel safer? @Labourstone @willnorman @metpoliceuk pic.twitter.com/2EQXqUuzE1
— Mariam Sayed (@MariamCycles) June 29, 2023
Mariam Sayed of JoyRiders, a charity which helps women take up or get back into cycling, who posted this image on Twitter said that this area was a “well known problem spot amongst local cyclists but why isn’t anything being done about this to make us feel safer?”.
It feels a little depressing to see instances like this (apologies for being a downer on the Tour de France eve). As Twitter user Alex said: “What a perfectly normal thing to see in a normal country with a normally working police and justice system”.
> Richmond Park’s Lib Dem MP blames Tory Government for “effectively decriminalising bike theft”
Bike robberies are scary, and have worryingly been on the rise. Earlier this month, Richmond Park MP Sarah Olney accused the Conservative Government of “effectively decriminalising bike theft”. Data uncovered by the Liberal Democrats showed that almost 90 per cent of cases were closed by the police with no suspect identified, while a thief gets charged in just 1.7 per cent of incidents.
Another Twitter user wrote: “That bridge has been a muggers paradise for years”, while another London cyclist wrote: “Stick to the road. All round safer”.
So basically it’s either stay on the cycle path and ride in fear of getting robbed, or stick to the roads and get told off for not being on the cycle path. Got it.
Councillor Greg Collins of the Green Party, from Wealden District Council seemed to nail it on the head (bad phrase considering the topic?): “Surely you know that all it takes is paint on the ground to make us feel safer? At least that’s what half the Highways teams in England seem to think.”
Surely you know that all it takes is paint on the ground to make us feel safer?
At least that’s what half the Highways teams in England seem to think.
— 💚 Cllr Collins 💚 (@gregrythegreen) June 29, 2023
If that’s too much of a downer, take a brief minute out to chuckle at the way the message is written bottom-to-up, instead of top-to-down. Turns out that’s how they do it over in the ‘murica, and even some EU countries? New things you learn everyday.
That’s the standard way that text-on-road is written…
…In the United States. 🇺🇸
I’m going to hazard a guess this might’ve been sprayed by an American. 🚴⚠️😇
— DieselDragon (@DieselDragonUK) June 30, 2023
Also, a wild reimagining of the Star Wars opening crawl if the person behind this graffiti was in charge of the visuals for the sci-fi space capers, instead of Mr George Lucas.
Star wars would’ve been a bit harder to follow 😂 pic.twitter.com/ul6PeHpG5h
— Dave Tate (@DaveT_uk) June 29, 2023
Last year, a similar graffiti on the entrance to a section of Cycleway 10 near The Den, Millwall Football Club’s stadium, in south east London came our way from Facebook, following concerns over the path’s safety as reports poured in of robberies and muggings by “masked men” in recent months.
> Cyclists report multiple muggings and thefts on London cycle route
In fact, local cyclist Euan told road.cc that he has “stopped cycling into work entirely” due to fears that he will be targeted by muggers.
“This used to be my only safe route into work, but I’ve seen men in balaclavas watching cyclists on the route on multiple occasions and I simply don’t think it’s safe,” he said. “I’ve heard about this happening via multiple sources for months and the police absolutely can’t be bothered.”
Well, I hope the Lea River Bridge doesn’t put off other cyclists. And those who do brave this activity called cycling, reach their destinations safely with their bikes still with them.
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I'll counter that by saying the Bryton 750se I have drives me nuts at times. Inconsistantly picks up on routes created on Komoot and the app re-syncs every few seconds when trying to set up the device and sends me back to the home screen. The most infuriating one is that I turned live track on. Once. It now won't turn off and repeatedly flags up the live track is starting, and then disconnecting every few seconds whilst riding. I haven't timed it but it wouldn't suprise me if 10-20% of the time the the screen is covered with an error message. That's been about 6 weeks now. Other than that it's great :/
RE: Police launch road safety operation... by clamping down on cyclists using footbridge Meanwhile in Glasgow, Police Scotland are riding their motorbikes over the pedestrian and cyclists only bridge. https://x.com/FietserGlasgow/status/2065106152917012523?s=20
@Paul J Van Schip certainly seems a bit of a dick, but he's a European and multiple World Champion on the track, pretty sure you don't get there without having some talent in your legs.
Poor Vincent cannot get over the simple fact that given the choice people prefer dedicated cycling spaces, rather than pretending to be cars like vehicular cyclists.
What is the point of the fancy air sensor if it can't account for changing weather conditions?? If all you care about is a delayed approximation of aerodynamic watts in steady conditions, you don't need any special sensors for that. Just your speed on a decently flat course is enough to approximate rolling resistance and drivetrain losses. And the rest must be aero. If you assume a less aero body position at the same watts, your speed will drop while rolling resistance also drops, which means approximated aero watts goes up. And that's enough to demonstrate what you've shown in your testing protocol ("I sat upright and the number went up a little while later").
Your correction is accurate - it's almost always been "the (lack of) thought that (doesn't) count". "Massive" - less than a billion a year spent on active travel (trying to catch up / building a network across the entire country) Not massive - 6 billion every year (2026-2030) spent on road *maintenance* of existing "already built, goes everywhere, very convenient" road network for inactive travel Ultimately the reason "cycle infra" is *needed* is those unbelievably colossal amounts spent every year (and for more than a century now) on making mass motoring not just viable but apparently the "best choice" for most journeys. As the Dutch and others have shown, the majority of people *are* prepared to cycle and even mix with very light, slow local motor traffic *if* cycling is also made safe and convenient for the whole of their journey (including secure parking at both ends). (The history of the financial drivers of the current situation are a complex topic but note that while people complain about "crumbling roads" and underfunded motor infra - with some reason - by us continuing the fuel duty escalator freeze (for example) we're actually helping motorists pay *even less* for that activity / subsidising more of the cost of driving than ever.)
yes, but people will still object - which was my point.
So ' Priority of Road Users' and 1.5 metre clearance at 30mph has been been reduced to 'sharing'? NCN route 2 here in South Hams is an absolute scream with white vans, tractors and total idiots who refuse,or are totally incapable,to reverse on high Devon banked lanes ...means you have to get off and pedal back to a passing place....could be at that all day...so I don't bother...
@MaxiMinimalist Agreed. The big problem I see now is today's parents grew up being driven to their schools, and therefore, see private motor vehicles as the only viable form of transport. The vast majority of UK infant and primary schools have a catchment area that is within easy walking distance from home to school. Yet, the traffic caused by pupils being driven to/from school is astonishing. Banishing the "School Run" should be a priority for all schools.
When I was a kid (that was during the previous millenium when phones were connected to a plug in the wall), I rode my bicycle to school, music academy, sport grounds, parties even during the winter. The government didn't have to spend, correct that, didn't have to think of spending massive amounts of money to build cycling specific infrastructures. Over the past 3 or 4 decades, cars have grown bigger, taller, safer (for their drivers) and faster. Meanwhile, motorists have become abusive, aggressive, hypersensitive to people moving on two wheels, aka cyclists. Spending billions upon billions on new infrastructure won't address the crux of the matter. Sadly.
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Bit of a postive story
Bit of a postive story
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/23620218.dunwich-dynamo-lizas-112-mile-odyssey-memory-husband/
She will be cycling 112 miles from Hackney in London to Dunwich, Suffolk, in what’s known as the Dunwich Dynamo.
She has also had to learn to go on without Ian after his shocking and sudden death in January, aged just 47.
Liza says she expects it to be an emotional day. “Knowing that they all did it last year and that the places we go through will all be places Ian went through will be a big thing,” she says. “But you have to keep going, don’t you? The cycling is very motivating. It’s my way of carrying on with life.”
(looks like you have to subscribe to see the full article).
ahh that stuff gets me every
ahh that stuff gets me every time, right in the feels.
I was able to view it OK. If
I was able to view it OK. If that was a fluke this is her just giving page at the bottom.
https://www.justgiving.com/page/liza-putwain-1685389353413
Thanks, that’s a useful link.
Thanks, that’s a useful link.
Sometimes the Ipswich Star
Sometimes the Ipswich Star version isn’t paywalled but it can be hit & miss https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/23620218.dunwich-dynamo-lizas-112-mile-odyssey-memory-husband/
Google Maps screenshot of the
Google Maps screenshot of the cycle-car-park lane near me. Everytime I travel on this road, I am amazed at how many vehicles are parked all along it.
I sent a couple of videos into OpSnap of drivists pulling in front of me, while I am in a solid white lane cycle lane and they then park half on the footpath, half on the cycle lane (over double yellow lines) forcing me out into traffic. The police aren’t in the least bit interested. Haven’t figured out how to send it to the Council instead – though given the widespread cycle-car-parking, I don’t think they will care either.
Unfortunately, unless there
Unfortunately, unless there are double yellows further on down, or there is a specific “no pavement parking” rule being enforced on this road, they sre technically parked legally. So of course nothing will be done about it.
Interesting. I had taken:
Interesting. I had taken:
from here. Guessing its the vagueness of “unavoidable” that means nothing is done.
If that is the actual excerpt
If that is the actual excerpt from the Highway Code, then it is technically not enforcible by law. The only HC rules becked up by law are those which state the word “must” in the sentence.
Yup. I wouldn’t fancy your
Yup. I wouldn’t fancy your chances even if there were double yellows and double flash “no loading” markers AND this was a mandatory cycle lane. But there aren’t and it’s an advisory one, so pointless. As usual I note that there are also at least some off-road drives here (and presumably garages – although I understand they’re just for storing stuff which isn’t cars).
Rule 140 has “You must not park in any cycle lane whilst waiting restrictions apply” but there are get-outs here too (“hours of operation” and the loophole found by cycling UK where it depends on when the cycle lane was put in…)
If it’s in London, then that
If it’s in London, then that is the only place in the UK, AFAIK, that parking on the pavement is illegal. Everywhere else it is not illegal to park on the pavement, but it is illegal to drive on it, but this has be witnessed by a police officer. So all of these vehicles could be prosecuted if there was a police officer there when they parked.
There have been pilot schemes
There have been pilot schemes in certain neighbourhoods nationwide banning parking on pavements, but it has yet to be rolled out as a blanket ban.
The only time they clear High
The only time they clear High Rd through Trimley properly is when the Tour of Britain visits
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pvFN1ynDeN3tzvzs6
Speaking of which https://twitter.com/TasteOfTheTour/status/1673620391888056320
[quoteDon’t miss ????
Does anyone know if this is viewable if you don’t have a Eurosport (or some other?) subscription?
henryb wrote:
Does anyone know if this is viewable if you don’t have a Eurosport (or some other?) subscription?
Not as far as I know but Discovery Plus does have a seven day free trial so you could sign up for that and watch it.
I didn’t know that – thanks!
I didn’t know that – thanks!
Jeebus but Eurosport/GCN
Jeebus but Eurosport/GCN/Discovery seem to be trying to deliberately piss off their cyclist customers. Which bloody sub am I supposed to get to view their cycling content?
I got EuroSport to see the cycling. Then they came up with GCN+ and some content – documentary stuff particularly – is only on GCN+, not accessible via EuroSport player (AFAICT). So now I’m thinking I should cancel my Eurosport player sub and get GCN+ – so I get all the cycling coverage and documentaries.
So now they’re putting some cycling documentaries on… Discovery+. ???
Really Discovery/Eurosport/GCN, get your act together.
Another annoying quirk that I
Another annoying quirk that I hadn’t appreciated before signing up to GCN+ is the distinction between watching live and on-demand. E.g. some races, and the punditry (e.g. the Breakaway) are available live but not on demand. Appreciate that may be a rights issue, but it’ll be nice to be able to rely on ITV for the Tour, so I can watch a curated highlights package complete with pre and post race interviews etc.
Urg, what?
Urg, what?
In the live race, it just follows on from the racing. On demand the interesting bits of the breakaway are usually included in the 1hour Highlights package. I don’t actually know if you can watch the race on demand and then see the Breakaway at end though.
Why do they make this so confusing?
Unfortunately, it’s not down
Unfortunately, it’s not down to the licenced broadcasters as to how they break up race content. Live race and highlight packages are not necessarily intertwined when race organisers sell their broadcasting rights per region, which in and of itself creates a double edged sword. The idea that not one single entity can swallow up a monopoly of content gives the ability of choice, however that also means that those with limited budgets have to choose which behind-paywall subscription they wish to have, missing out on content.
Discovery group may have been able to secure rights for some of the coverage content (including live races and certain highlights) which I believe is available on either platform, but may be limited on highlights due to other broadcasters sharing those specific rights (in UK’s case, ITV.)
It’s also worth pointing out
It’s also worth pointing out that The Breakaway show is a GCN/Eurosport specific punditry program (like Soccer AM was on Sky Sports, or Football Focus on BBC) and is effectively their own copyrighted material, unlike the race itself which official footage and images are the property of the race organisers.
I’ve just looked back at the
I’ve just looked back at the Giro coverage and it looks like I was talking rubbish – you can in fact still watch the whole stage back, including the Breakaway wraparound coverage. Still prefer ITV’s highlights package though.
AFAIK, the Discovery Plus
AFAIK, the Discovery Plus documentary content is all on GCN+… I can recommend a GCN+ sub, for £40 a year you get all 3 Grand Tours ad free, most of the national champs, many, many other live & catch-up races throughout the season, and some excellent original documentary type view on demand content.
Also if you don’t have an active Discovery Plus account, and you have an active Sky sub, you can link the accounts and get D+ free I think (ymmv, I’ve done that).
“Impossible to use the cycle
“Impossible to use the cycle lane”?
Why is it always a German car?
They definitely appeal to a certain type of cock-womble.
Owd Big 'Ead wrote:
Not every German car driver is a selfish entitled prick . . . . but most selfish entitled pricks do seem to think they deserve a German car because they are more important than the rest of us.
I am now on my seventh German
I am now on my seventh German car in a row….. not sure what that says about me….. 😉
Why are you even here if you
Why are you even here if you have a car. Ewwww ?
You’re clearly not a big a c*
You’re clearly not as big a c**t as me, I’ve had 12 German cars, and 11 of them were made by BMW. My current van is made by VAG just for the icing on top.
No Mercs or a Porsche? You’re
No Mercs or a Porsche? You’re letting the side down ?
I was concerned about image
I was concerned about image and perception…
mark1a wrote:
???
Do you crash them a lot ?
Do you crash them a lot ?
Only ever had one a accident.
Only ever had one a accident….. Seen dozens in my wing mirrors.
No, I am just very old.
essexian wrote:
I’m pretty sure the average German car driving selfish entitled prick wouldn’t have the self awareness to post a joke about themselves on a cycling website (let alone cycle) so I’m convinced you’re in the clear ?
“Ahead Bridge On The Muggings
“Ahead Bridge On The Muggings Bike?”
In line with the comment about the Star Wars opening sequence, it sounds like Yoda is working for the highways department.
I seem to recall it was the
I seem to recall it was the 2021 TDF where Cav took 4 stages to equal the record, not 2020
“It’s not just cyclists who
“It’s not just cyclists who benefit from bike lanes”
Say it louder for the people at the back!
Can’t win, can you?
Can’t win, can you?
You try to be nice to people so they don’t suffer the loss that you might have …
And people *still* take the piss.
Ffs … someone is actually trying to help us cyclists, and all we do is behave like twats and take piss out of the non standard word order.
If I was them (which I’m not), I’d be having a serious bout of “fuck you lot too” and not bother my arse next time.
We should be congratulating this guy, not ripping his fecking grammar.
And yep … its shouldn’t be needed, but as the cops don’t give a shit when you hand them clear HD video evidence when someone in a car is trying to kill you, they ain’t gonna care when someone’s trying to separate you from your bike.
Oldfatgit wrote:
Surely you’d be having a bout of “too lot you fuck”? Sorry, couldn’t resist, I do agree that our friend should be being applauded for making the effort.
“It’s not just cyclists who
“It’s not just cyclists who benefit from bike lanes”
Quite. In fact everyone benefits. Many more would – including drivers – if we could only get more than a token of bike infrastructure. Taking from the motor vehicle space, not being lumped together with pedestrians, causing conflict and reducing the efficiency of cycling.
We should also ask for better than this even if it’s unlikely it will happen any time soon. If we ask for 3rd rate (like here) we’ll get worse by the time it appears and it *will* be a “waste of money” as few current non-cyclists will use it.
It’s a tall ask but not “unrealistic” or “fantastic”. This kind of change has actually happened in similar places to where we live, with similar people, with cars…
http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2016/08/mass-cycling-requires-sociable-side-by.html
Regarding recent cycle racing
Regarding recent cycle racing and rain in Italy it is clear that Italy has become a tropical country – according to its weather patterns. I listened to the director of the Protezione Civile say the same on the Italian news recently. Build up of heat followed by torrential down pours.