Howard Cox says cyclists who “rule highways” are overtaking drivers in 20mph zones; Motorists drive on pavement to avoid protests; Epidemiologist claims Roglič wore mask at Giro; Supermarket wars in peloton; fake race accounts + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Leading epidemiologist’s mask mishap as he wrongly claims Roglič “won a strenuous mountain time trial while wearing a mask”
We are all prone to speaking our mind a bit too quickly without checking what’s right or wrong, right?
It’s a shame that a leading American epidemiologist wrongly, and quite naively thought that Primož Roglič won the final nail-biting, gut-wrenching and action-packed time-trial at the Giro d’Italia… while wearing a mask.
Let this sink in—N95/FFP2-wearing cyclist @rogla just won elite @giroditalia 🚴♂️race! This man even won a strenuous mountain ⛰️time trial while wearing a mask. Several top contenders got knocked out with #COVID. No more “can’t breathe in a mask” excuses. 🚵♀️pic.twitter.com/94rVxSCOuj
— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) May 31, 2023
And as you’d expect, it’s given all sorts of Covid deniers and anti-maskers just the right ammo to have a field day with this honestly astonishing tweet. Maybe Feigl-Ding could have just, you know, Googled it? Or looked at the countless other images where they are not parading with their bikes and actually on the road? Or maybe he took our April Fools too seriously…
3) honestly masking to reduce inhaling car’s 🚗 exhaust when riding a bike behind time-keeping cars spewing fumes isn’t a bad idea either. https://t.co/XRVITEpX4l
— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) May 31, 2023
Cyclists react to London mayor hopeful Howard Cox's impossible pledge to "scrap" LTNs and 20mphs zones
Boy are we kicking off the live blog with lots of misguided claims today!
This time it’s Howard Cox, FairFuel UK co-founder and London mayor hopeful (the keyword being hopeful) has sworn that if he gets elected, he will scrap all ULEZ, along with all 20mph zones and low-traffic neighbourhoods.
I don’t think he knows that the latter two are not something under the Mayor’s control…
20mph zones do not reduce accidents. They are simply an anti-driver policy to screw drivers of hard earned cash. Clueless politicos cash grab at every opportunity. If I become Mayor of London along with ALL ULEZs not just the expansion, LTNs & 20mph zones, ALL will be scrapped https://t.co/SbmUPZcbBE pic.twitter.com/XqocaNFEYH
— Howard Cox (@HowardCCox) May 31, 2023
According to Cox, who came on GBNews yesterday to talk about speeding convictions, 20mph zones are nothing but a “cash grab” and “anti-driver” policy. And unsurprisingly, cyclists were enraged at these enraging comments.
Carefully worded claim there. I don’t know for sure if reduced speed limits reduces accidents though it would seem very likely. There is plenty of evidence though that reduced speed limits reduce injuries and fatalities. That alone makes them worth supporting doesn’t it?
— Havering Cyclists (@HaveringCyclist) June 1, 2023
You made the mistake of choosing ‘zones’ rather than ‘limits’. In terms of London – “half of the 20mph zones which had been implemented in London found that they reduced injury accidents by about 42% and fatal or serious accidents by 53%” @RoSPA https://t.co/NDaI1WLvY2
— EastbourneEcoTransport (@EcoTransportEB) May 31, 2023
Hmm. pic.twitter.com/XKURxs8cAh
— sailbadthesinner (@LarcombePeter) May 31, 2023
Cox replied to a couple of the tweets under his post with: “There is sparse evidence that 20mph zones are reducing accidents. a study by Queen’s University last year finding that, while speed limits, reduce traffic they do little to stop accidents.”
However, Eastbourne Eco Transport was quick to point out this study which questioned the findings of The Queen’s research, writing: “The Queen’s research was around ‘limits’ not ‘zones’. Many limitations for this small study in Belfast. “evidence from 20mph speed limit interventions involving much larger numbers of roads have revealed significant vehicle speed and casualty reductions””.
He’s also tweeted that he’s coming on TalkTV today at 9:45AM with allegedly another anti-cyclist rant. You bet I’ll be tuning in so you don’t have to.
68% people in Wales support reallocating road area for cycling... then why aren't we seeing it happen?
An NHS Wales’ survey has found that a majority of the Welsh population support reallocating local road space to improve active travel — 75 per cent in favour of reallocating it for walking and 68 per cent in favour of reclaiming space for cycling.
In fact, 64 per cent of people said they are interested in increasing the amount of active travel they do, with 21 per cent claiming they were “very interested” in the same. I wonder what’s stopping them from doing so?
Most people in Wales support the reallocation of space for active travel. So why aren’t we seeing this delivered on the ground? https://t.co/0SkfOlM3UL
— Cycling UK Cymru (@CyclingUK_Wales) June 1, 2023
Some sneezing advice for cyclists...
I’ve got a PSA for all you folks with allergies and hay fever. Speaking from experience, it can get pretty rubbish in the summers with all the pollen and grass giving you a runny and stuffy nose, itchy watery eyes and a horrible sore throat.
Airborne allergens expert, Max Wiseberg says: “Prevention is better than cure. So helping stop the pollen from getting into your body in the first place is a good strategy.
“Tie your hair up and wear a hat or cap when out cycling to prevent pollen particles being caught in your hair.”
“Use an organic drug-free allergen barrier balm such as HayMax during your ride, which can be applied to the nostrils and bones of the eyes in the morning and throughout the day.”
“Wear wraparound sunglasses when on a cycle ride to prevent pollen particles coming in contact with your eyes.”
“Try to time your cycling so it’s not when pollen counts are highest, during the peak morning and evening periods. Pollen is released early in the morning then travels upwards as the air warms up. In the evening, as the air cools, it moves back down again and the pollen grains reach nose height. Symptoms are usually worst at these times, so avoid going outdoors then.”
“Change your kit when you return home and wash your face or take a shower to wash away allergens so that they can’t cause a reaction. A cool compress will soothe sore eyes.”
“Dry your kit indoors rather than on an outdoor clothes line to stop pollen being blown onto it by the outside wind.”
“Stay hydrated and eat lots of fruit and vegetables to stay healthy and support your immune system.”
“Shower at night before sleeping to remove pollen particles from your hair and body.”
Supermarket wars in the peloton
We’ve got a new rivalry going on in the peloton, and it’s one you don’t want to find yourself in the middle aisle of.
After Trek-Segafredo confirmed that German discount supermarket Lidl will be taking over the team as the title sponsor from 30 June, Intermarché-Circus-Wanty was apparently left a bit shaken, maybe even stirred, at the presence of a new sheriff in town.
In a now deleted tweet, the Belgian team which is sponsored by the French supermarket giant Intermarché, shared the gif of the Special One, the Judas, the serial winner José “respect, respect, respect” Mourinho from a post-match conference during his (second) stint as a Chelsea manager, where he said: “I prefer not to speak, if I speak I am in big trouble”.
While he said this about the refereeing during his team’s loss to Aston Villa, I’m sure José will have something to say about the refereeing in yesterday’s Europa League final…
Anyway, I am mildly excited to see where this feud goes next in the peloton. Maybe a competition to see who has the most outrageously garrish kit? (I, for one, would welcome this wholeheartedly…)
Bahrain Victorious' pearl jersey for Le Tour: Yay or nay?
Speaking of outrageously garrish kits… this isn’t one of them but I think it looks pretty neat, just, not enough pearly.
👀 ⚪️ Unveiling our pearl-inspired design for @LeTour to pay homage to Bahrain’s rich pearling history.#RideAsOne #TDF #TeamPearl #Pearl
🔗 https://t.co/8MXBgDRPsc pic.twitter.com/vW6ffSkBiy
— Team Bahrain Victorious (@BHRVictorious) May 31, 2023
What are your thoughts about it? Let us know in the comments…
Police constable issues warning to drivers parking cars on cycle lanes
At least Sussex police is up to some good.
A cycle lane isn’t a parking space! ❌
Following complaints from the local community about this vehicle being abandoned for a number of days it has been ticketed and recovered. pic.twitter.com/DyWlSRPnKL
— PC Tom Van Der Wee (@PCTomVanDerWee) June 1, 2023
"They're protected by the Highway Code": Howard Cox claims cyclists rule the highways, "can do what they want, when they want"
It’s that time of the day, I’ve got more Howard Cox anti-cyclist content for you.
In the GBNews interview from yesterday, the FairFuel UK co-founder and campaigner for motorists’ rights went on a lengthy rant about 20mph zones, saying: “It’s impossible to stick to 20 miles an hour, because you’re looking at the speedometer and not looking at the road ahead.”
“Let’s face it, this has happened: I have been overtaken in 20 miles an hour zones by cyclists. They are not actually subject to it. They are protected by the Highway Code and the ‘heirarchy of blame’. They’ll never be touched, they can do what they want, when they want.”
Cox then went on to share a completely trustworthy and foolproof anecdote of a cyclist who once told him: “It’s great to overtake cars in 20mph zones because it feels like we rule the highways.”
Cox appeared on today morning’s TalkTV broadcast as well, and was asked to give a response to yesterday’s Just Stop Oil protest. And a response he did share.
“I’ve got to go to a meeting and I’ll have to drive because there are no trains, and I’ll come across these Just Stop Oil protestors. Don’t quote me on this, don’t tell anyone who’s listening, if they’re there, I’m gonna run over them.”
The presenter replied: “I don’t think you’re allowed to do that, that’s the annoying thing.”
Cox said, with a hearty laugh: “But I’ll surely be tempted to.”
After the England cricket team coach was stopped by Just Stop Oil activists, Fair Fuel UK founder Howard Cox tells Julia he’d be “tempted” to run over protesters if they halted his journey.
“It sickens me, it sickens everyone…”@JuliaHB1 | @HowardCCox pic.twitter.com/vuzqBDfRjA
— TalkTV (@TalkTV) June 1, 2023
"It's about the safety of our kids": Residents claim proposed cycleway could put children playing in danger
Motorists drive the full length of pavement at speed to avoid Just Stop Oil protests
That’s it. That’s the post. Pretty clear, pretty illegal?
Motorists drive full length of pavement at speed to avoid the @JustStop_Oil protest in Warwick Road this morning. #protest. Not sure Addison Lee will be too pleased. pic.twitter.com/mQ9W6zjVLV
— Tom Bowles (@tomsdinner) May 31, 2023
Active Travel England to be consulted on all developments exceeding 150 housing units
Active Travel England has confirmed that it is now officially a statutory consultee on all planning applications for developments equal to or exceeding 150 housing units, 7,500m2 of floorspace or an area of five hectares.
The new role will enable Active Travel England to help planning authorities in their work to implement good active travel design – for example, by ensuring developments include walking, wheeling and cycling connectivity to schools and local amenities. This will help improve public health, save people money and reduce harmful emissions.
Active Travel Commissioner Chris Boardman said: “Active travel is essential to improving public health, reducing emissions and tackling the cost of living crisis. That’s why we’re working to ensure millions more people have the opportunity to walk, wheel or cycle from their doorstep to where they need to be.
“Designing activity back into our neighbourhoods and creating places where children have transport independence is achievable – it just needs smart planning.
“As a statutory consultee Active Travel England will work with planning authorities and developers to help them ensure new estates give people what they need to get fresh air and exercise, save money on petrol and help fight climate change.”
Mask or no mask? Another doctor weighs in whether you should wear one while cycling
After epidemiologist Dr Eric Feigl-Ding embarassed himself a little bit after getting his facts completely wrong in claiming that 2023 Giro d’Italia winner Primož Roglič wore a mask during the “strenuous mountain time trial”, which eventually won him the title over Geraint Thomas, another nephrologist has weighed in on whether you shoud wear a mask when on the bike.
Dr Satoshi Akima from Australia replied under Dr Feigl-Ding’s tweet, saying “cycling in an N95 is the new normal” for him. “I’d recommend the valved versions as they are more breathable and don’t trap heat. Valves are designed with exercise/labour in mind,” he added, referring to the 3M (9322+ P2) N95 mask.
Cycling in an Ν95 is the new normal for me. I’d recommend the valved versions as they are more breathable and don’t trap heat. Valves are designed with exercise/labour in mind. https://t.co/lNFZf8reO1
— Dr Satoshi Akima FRACP 『秋間聰』 (@ToshiAkima) June 1, 2023
Dr Feigl-Ding did make a point about masks helping to reduce inhaling of car’s fumes from the exhaust when riding behind one in traffic, but what do you think? I know I struggled when I once tried doing it in 2020, seems so long ago…
HGV with "cyclists beware" sign in a pedestrian and cycle zone
We’ve had Amazon vans and Guinness trucks on cycle lanes, now get ready for an HGV with a “cyclists beware” sign on its back on a cycle lane.
He’s really fucking this to for everyone pic.twitter.com/KLjZ5lDvd0
— GM_Parking (@GM_Parking) June 1, 2023
Cyclist beware, for real this time! Fake race accounts are back
It’s that time of the year again. Fake race accounts trying to scam or phish you into doing something unwise and leaving you pretty embarrassed. If you’ve been one of those people, it’s fine, mistakes do happen, even by the best of us.
But here’s the road.cc PSA, with the help of Paul James’ tweet, that please don’t open any messages or click on any links sent to you by genuine-looking race accounts (I know, we all dream of getting DM’ed by TdF, don’t we…)
Hey Cycling Twitter a fake tour of Norway are sending people message saying they’ve won a prize and to claim it using some link. After I replied they blocked me.
The actual ToN is @tourofnorway. The fake one is @tourofnorway_ with the dash #Cycling #Scam pic.twitter.com/WC7pCpkO4J
— Paul James 🇯🇪 (@JerseyPaul90) May 31, 2023
Several other cyclists also reportedly got DMs from this fake Tour of Norway account. Another user John Maguire also mentioned that the actual ToN account is running a competition right now, which makes things worse.
The news comes just two weeks after Jumbo-Visma’s account got hacked and became a cryptocurrency-advertising and Musk-retweeting account. These pesky scammers I tell you…
All that glitters... Dangerholm builds a stunning custom Scott Foil painted in "liquid gold"
Custom bike designer and sensational modder Gustav Gullholm aka Dangerholm is back with his eye-catching bikes and this time, he has once again tried his hands at a road bike.
And the Swede has proven his Midas Touch, with a Scott Foil RC Liquid featuring a “liquid gold” custom special effects paint job, shifts dramatically from being completely transparent, allowing the black carbon fiber to be visible as if just clear coated, to flipping between green, gold and in some angles even blue tones.
> Dangerholm’s 7.49kg Scott Contessa Addict gravel bike
Known for making incredibly lightweight mountain bikes, his iteration at the road bike also weighs in at just 7.1kgs with the Scott Foil chassis. He said: “I decided that I would try to take the essence of the Foil to the next level, building an aero bike with elegance and performance turned up to 11. To make it a bike that appears as a whole and not as a selection of parts and components simply put together.
“The goal was that it would in some ways resemble and bring the feeling of looking at a beautiful super car. Things like having matching body panels, small logos, clean tires with no big brand patches and so on – but a bicycle.”
We’ll have a deep-dive on this miracle coming out soon on our Bike @Bedtime series, so stay tuned for that, but I’ll give you my two cents: I think the madman has outdone himself this time!
> The Dangerholm Scott Foil – A masterclass in custom built bikes
Belgian pro cyclist placed in coma undergoes spinal surgery after training crash
> Belgian pro cyclist placed in coma undergoes spinal surgery after training crash
Nostalgia, ultra... Cannondale shows off a CAAD13 inspired by the classic '97 CAAD3
Design trends come and go, but the classics are always there.
After yesterday’s report of Raleigh’s relaunch of the iconic British bicycle Mk2 Chopper after 51 years, we have news that Cannondale Caad13 inspired by another iconic bike, the 1997 Caad3 Team Saeco, and it’s glorious.
Evidently, it’s got a lot of people excited in the comments. One person wrote: “Please make these colour ways instead of the boring stuff we currently see!!!”, while another asked “Where the F can I buy this piece of ART”.
And of course there were some who vented about the lack of rim brakes, or the, ahem, Campagnolo groupset.
Here’s a nostalgic account by Stu from the road.cc team, which hopefully brings a smile to your face and reminds you of the good ol’ days: “My first road bike was a Giant OCR, but when I decided to take things seriously I treated myself to a CAAD 5, in glossy dark red with the Saeco logos in gold, and Cannondale in white. Probably one of the best looking bikes I’ve ever owned.”
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@tomlew That sounds like someone who is thinking about GC to me. I don't think your comparison with 16-year-old footballers is particularly valid, ultimately football at every level is played on roughly the same size to pitch, the goals are the same size and there are eleven players on each team. If professional football was played on a pitch three times the size with goals half the size and for five hours instead of ninety minutes, that might be a good comparison. I have no objection to Seixas riding this tour for experience, I think it's a good idea, but as I've said, I don't think he's got any chance of winning unless something major happens to the big contenders (he's already shipped 39 seconds and 27 seconds respectively to the big dogs) and if he tries too hard he could receive humiliating setbacks that could damage him psychologically throughout his career. You say "If I were a prodigy cyclist youngster with a realistic shot at winning, I might take [the risk] even if I knew it might be the end of my career", but he doesn't have a realistic shot at winning and in taking the risk he might be putting in jeopardy the possibility of winning multiple Tours in future. I don't think this is a situation where a "death or glory" approach is suitable. We shall reconvene in three weeks time and see what happened, and I'm quite happy to be proved wrong and if he does win this year it would certainly mean we had had a thrilling Tour.
@Rendel Harris I absolutely know all that. But that's exactly what I said: he is risking a lot, but the reward might be worth it. It is only a matter of judgment. And by the way, AFAIK nobody said he's going to ride to win the GC. Maybe the plan is exactly to learn his lessons this year so that next year nobody can say he's too inexperienced to really go for victory. Of course, he could ride the Vuelta, but what better place is there to learn the TdF than TdF itself? Times have changed. No more pecking orders, 16-year-old footballers are already shaking the world (even though most of them do indeed get chewed and spat out badly, but again: that's a risk they take). Why wouldn't the same happen in cycling?
Sôme interesting comments from Wright and Stewart about 'losing' thé team élément a bit with thé new format
And I don’t know when you wrote this but I think it was published 9 days after Onley was confirmed out of the Tour.
Paul Seixas’ team is Decathlon CMA CGM
The best thing about the TTT as Stage 1 is that it emphasises the fact that cycling grand tours incl the TDF are a team sport.
If you click through and read the story you'll see that the first motorist hit the cyclist, and the second, following, motorist then also hit them while they were lying in the road - both were convicted of causing the cyclist's death.
I may be reading far too much into it, but I felt as though Pogacar and UAE weren't actually that bothered about winning today. Not having yellow to defend and all the extra press etc to do this early in the race is an indisputable advantage; I just got the impression that they were out to lose no more than a handful of seconds but not to bury themselves for the win. With about 2.5kms to go I thought that if Pogacar really wanted it he would have gone from there, but he stayed with Del Toro for nearly another kilometre even though the body language was saying that no way was Del Toro in as good shape as Pogacar. Even after the finish he didn't seem as wiped out as Ganna (whom I don't think I've ever seen quite so shattered) or Jonas. As I say, might be reading too much into it but I would not be surprised if UAE had played a very clever hand not to lose any meaningful time but to avoid the burden of yellow from the get go.
@tomlew It's not his youth so much as his inexperience. He's never ridden a race longer than eight days before. Pogacar won his first Tour, it's true, but he'd already finished a Vuelta. There's simply to much for him to learn and become accustomed to in my opinion for him to have a realistic chance of victory, particularly as he's up against probably the greatest of all time and a double Tour winner, both of whom seem to be at the peak of their powers. It's not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility but he'd need a hatful of luck and something fairly catastrophic to happen to both of those guys before he'd realistically be in with a shout. Don't forget nobody has won their first Grand Tour since Hinault in 1978, forty-eight years is a hell of a lot of precedent.
There is no rational reason for a rider this young not to dominate the race, other than some of us believing this is "not right" based purely on opinion. Younger athletes recover much, much faster. They adapt more easily. They are typically more eager to take risks, which is... well, risky, but could pay off big time if the stars align. Burnout? Yes, that is a risk. But it's not a given. See how long Leo Messi has been absolutely top-notch. The risks are high, but the potential is even more so. And even if Seixas does burn out early, it may just be his choice despite the awareness of the risk. If I were a prodigy cyclist youngster with a realistic shot at winning, I might take it even if I knew it might be the end of my career. After all, it's winning the TdF we're talking about!
57 thoughts on “Howard Cox says cyclists who “rule highways” are overtaking drivers in 20mph zones; Motorists drive on pavement to avoid protests; Epidemiologist claims Roglič wore mask at Giro; Supermarket wars in peloton; fake race accounts + more on the live blog”
Oh lord, five page thread of
Oh lord, five page thread of the effectiveness or otherwise of masking incoming…
No, but you see my opinion is
No, but you see my opinion is really important on this because I googled something three years ago and confirmed my inherant bias with the top result and then havent looked at any other sources. I am right.
ok, i’ll bite…..I remember
ok, i’ll bite…..I remember research from a decade or so ago that showed that cyclists riding in London were getting less pollution in their lungs than car drivers becasue their deeper breathing exhaled more of the air (and pollution) than the shallow breaths which left pollutants in car drivers lungs.
Wasnt it because car air
Wasnt it because car air intakes are closer to the ground than cyclists mouth/nose so cats suck in more polluted air? Or is it both
What we need is some kind of
What we need is some kind of combination mask-helmet – maybe with some means to make the wearer highly visible.
Or rather we need no such
Or rather we need no such things as they’re entirely useless, only the credulous would believe otherwise. In fact they do far more harm than good and I’ve been saying this for years.
I entirely and unequivocally
I entirely and unequivocally agree whilst vehemently disagreeing with everything you say though I may reverse my position shortly.
chrisonatrike wrote:
Absolutely. Wearing one of those will actually increase the risk of lance-impalenent due to the increased likelihood of entering tourneys.
Nice helmet. Is the air
Nice helmet. Is the air intake at the top of the ‘horns’? I’m sure pollutants are heavier than air and the cleanest air must therefore be found at greater altitude, so a snorkel air intake for cycling would seem a good design feature.
will also help you breath
will also help you breath when you fall into a pothole puddle
I propose a ram-air intake
I propose a ram-air intake for greater oxygen intake at high speeds.
Currently pondering the viability of an afterburner at the exhaust.
Car Delenda Est wrote:
Fuel is heavy though so I recommend mounting the burner externally – perhaps on some flying drone?
I hope the good doctor was
I hope the good doctor was media savvy enough to know that his (deliberate?) mis use of a misunderstood image might get more notice than if he stuck with the truth – pro cyclists start wearing masks again after large number get covid.
Feigl-Ding has made a career
Feigl-Ding has made a career out of tweeting misleading and outright false nonsense. Whether he knows or not, the man cares not a jot for truth.
Odd tweet from Cycling UK
Odd tweet from Cycling UK-Cymru.
Wales has been reallocating road space to active travel.
Cardiff in particular is getting close to a genuinely good cycle network.
Ironically, in some areas, the Welsh governments ban on new roads will make increasing active travel more difficult.
A recent new road in Cardiff Bay, for example, helped to divert a lot of traffic away from residential areas making cycling/walking in those areas far more pleasant.
Bypasses should, IMHO, be excluded from the ban for that reason.
Yes – it’s a tricky one
Yes – it’s a tricky one though as at the moment the majority of our systems (government, business, culture…) are still focussed on facilitating driving – or even still encouraging it.
Unfortunately if we want to achieve some of the stated goals (climate effects, resilience, localism, economic benefits, health etc) it seems we all need to travel much less far and less often. Exception – travel under our own power / with minimal (electric) assistance.
It’s currently difficult to build more roads in the UK without encouraging more traffic (induced demand).
It’s also hard to ensure that any road building activity doesn’t come at the expense of measures to assist other modes (public transport, cycling and walking). Road building is not only costly but it also needs lots of space. We shouldn’t discount the time and energy used in completing the process either.
Finally where we do have – or make – “ring roads” or main motor arteries we need to ensure these don’t become barriers for cycling and walking.
However diverting the motor vehicles does seem to play a very important role in places where active travel is mainstream transport though. This can be preventing through motor traffic or maybe just making it much less appealing for driving.
Rich_cb wrote:
Along with almost every other intervention about roads and traffic, bypasses rarely, if ever, achieve their stated aims, and only encourage development along the new road, which then gets congested, leading to another bypass to bypass the bypass.
I think it’s in how and where
I think it’s in how and where it’s done. But just making it easier for motor vehicles without some very good alternatives and real efforts to shift transport patterns will likely lead to the issues you suggest.
Evidence? Good article here on how this has affected Belfast. The old relief road is clogged? Cut a route through for a new one.
That’s not my experience. I
That’s not my experience. I know multiple small towns and villages which are now far more pleasant as a result of a bypass.
That’s also, so far, not the experience in Cardiff.
Rich_cb wrote:
Except bypasses lead to more traffic in general and volumes on the smaller bypassed road grows. Induced demand.
When you say “Wales has been reallocating road space to active travel” you forgot to add “in Cardiff”. Many other parts of the country have seen no significant change.
Cancelling big road projects should mean the money is available to be used elsewhere. However stopping the road building doesn’t make cycling more difficult; it’s more accurate to say that, on its own, it does not improve cycling infrastructure.
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Is it because they support it but not in their local area, where they live or shop or work…?
brooksby wrote:
See also: new housing. Widely supported in principle, widely opposed in practice.
There’s a difference though.
There’s a difference though. Reallocating road space has no real (as in observed, proven) negative effects on anyone, only positives.
New housing, at least as it is done today, is detrimental to many things and people.
I really like the TDF kit
I really like the TDF kit from Bahrain Victorious, however, considering that their jersey didn’t clash with any of the classification leaders jerseys it’s a bit moot. Is it just a gimmick?
Matthew Acton-Varian wrote:
IIRC correctly, teams are allowed a single switch out kit per year (I’ve either remembered this from somewhere or just made it up), and over the years, leader clash has become the least common reason, it’s more likely now to be marketing, commemoration, etc.
Interesting history here:
I see. I knew there was a
I see. I knew there was a permissable switch out, but thought it was only if there was a clash with a leader’s jersey. You learn something new every day. Thanks, Mark!
Alongside Mike Graham’s “Just
Alongside Mike Graham’s “Just don’t brake…” (…for cyclists), can the statements be used as evidence against Howard Cox and the presenter when they are involved in a collision…?
mitsky wrote:
Depends on the police force and colour of his skin. If he gets a deep tan and the MET investigate, then he’ll be going down.
Not only are Howard Cox’s
Not only are Howard Cox’s words inflammatory, misinformation, they seem like incitement to violence and hate speach to me. I presume the serious “News” channel “journalists” questioned and corrected his false claims and untruths?
It’s OK, it’s an
It’s OK, it’s an entertainment channel. Or something.
Uhm Feigl-Ding is _not_ a
Uhm Feigl-Ding is _not_ a leading epidemiologist. He’s a leading purveyor of nonsense on social-media – of which this tweet is another example. His academic background is in nutrition.
If Howard Cox can’t drive at
If Howard Cox can’t drive at 20mph because he has to stare constantly at his speedometer, mustn’t he have the same problem driving at 30mph, 40mph, 70mph etc? That doesn’t sound like someone you’d trust to sit the right way round on the toilet, let alone to pilot 2 tonnes of metal and fuel along the public highway.
It’s great that he’s
It’s great that he’s campaigning to be Mayor of London based on one issue. When he fails to be elected (by a comfortable margin) it *should* make clear that it really is just the squeaky wheels that he’s pandering to & that nobody else believes what he’s peddling (sorry) and/or cares that passionately about the evil LTNs and 20mph limits. So he and his culture “war” can then just get in the bin.
Of course, he *might* just be a self promoting whacko that the media gives a disproportionate amount of credence to……
I love the “driving at 20mph
I love the “driving at 20mph is really dangerous because I have to constantly stare at the speedometer” argument. I mean, how do drivers currently stick to the current 30mph limits?
*reads government speed compliance statistics*
Oh. I see. None of them do…
Also the wonderful
Also the wonderful cherrypicking of research comments;
Rsearch states they didn’t work in belfast. It also agrees they work elsewhere.
It explains this contradiction as several factors, the main being speed didn’t reduce very much (lack of enforcement and congestion issues).
There suggestions for making a difference reads to me as you need to cover the entire city and then exclude some key, safe routes rather than picking some routes for reduced limit (because the picked areas are always going to be lowest risk and most congested…)
Also drivers drive at a speed
Also drivers drive at a speed that feels right. Signs do bubbler all, it’s all in road layout, width, furniture etc.
signs are cheap however…
Cyclist holding on to moving
Cyclist holding on to moving car is seriously hurt after falling
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/motoring/cyclist-holding-moving-car-seriously-8487291
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Given that the police now routinely videotape any lawful protests so they can identify and ‘keep an eye on’ the protestors, presumably they have footage of these blatantly lawbreaking motorists and can prosecute them for (very!) dangerous driving…?
How many Stop Oil morons do
How many Stop Oil morons do the Met even arrest? It only appears they arrest the average working class people they impacting. The Met only keep an eye on them so they can join their Facebook groups later on, share their lame Woke memes. They’d only use the videotape for recruitment ads anyway, in between dancing for Tik Tok clips at Pride marches.
At least 6.
At least 6.
https://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/news/national/23543508.six-just-stop-oil-protesters-arrested-police-issue-orders-clear-roads/
I do agree with you in the hope that the Met Police don’t get too focused on JSO when they have dangerous drivers such as those in the video to deal with.
Roulereo wrote:
Is that the average working class people we’ve seen on video assaulting the people exercising their right to protest, for holding them up on their way to work…?
brooksby wrote:
I don’t even agree with JSO’s tactics, which I think are counterproductive, but there’s a definite cognitive dissonance displayed by those who wail that the police aren’t arresting them for breaking the law (even when they’re not) and at the same time whine about counter-protestors being arrested for, in some cases, some pretty vicious assaults.
Eric Feigl-Ding is as much a
Eric Feigl-Ding is as much a “Leading epidemiologist” as I am a “leading cyclist”, voicing strong opinions online doesn’t give you any palmares. He’s a total con artist with absolutely no serious scientific output (in journals or on twitter), and no respect amongst the actual professionals.
Are Mask Karens are still
Are Mask Karens are still around?
Still fighting the good fight, pushing for Fascism while they will never see it that way.
This Woke muppet would be better off investigating where Covid actually came from.
RE Howard Cox: is there any
RE Howard Cox: is there any reason a cyclist shouldn’t overtake a car travelling at 20 mph? Assuming the cyclist can maintain that speed for a distance so that the car isn’t forced to overtake the cyclist straight away, and it’s done in a safe way so as not to endanger anyone involved?
Daveyraveygravey wrote:
Not only is there no good reason that they shouldn’t, but the cyclist will be getting out of the way of the cars by doing that, so less congestion. The only reason I can see for a driver to not want that is if they’re putting an emotional value on overtaking someone. I wonder if they stick out their elbows when walking to prevent faster walkers from getting past them
hawkinspeter wrote:
a lot of drivers seem to take being overtaken by a car personally, so I’d imagine a cyclist would leave them furious.
Some years ago I drove a
Some years ago I drove a Suzuki Wagn-R – great little car for taking me and my bike into striking distance of Canary Wharf to complete my commute. Dead reliable, 50+Mpg, bike in the back with ease, and quite fun. BUT. Every driver in a car slightly bigger / faster (most of them…) HAD to overtake me, irrespective of speed / road conditions / weather conditions / oncoming traffic. It was almost as bad as being a cyclist. Yes, this is largely an emotional issue with drivers getting overly emotional about other people being “in their way”, even when getting past puts everyone, including themselves in danger.
I don’t think I’d be able to
I don’t think I’d be able to overtake any driver doing 20 mph on our local 20 mph streets, not because I can’t do 20 mph when I want to but because of the aerodynamic and friction drag caused by my jaw scraping along the floor. I honestly can’t remember the last time I saw a motorist in a 20 mph zone with a clear run (no traffic ahead and no speed bumps) who was actually sticking to 20 mph.
Howard Cox says “They’re
Howard Cox says “They’re protected by the Highway Code”
The Highway Code didn’t protect the two cyclists killed in May on Birminghams roads by hit and run drivers or the 4 year old killed on Monday round the corner from me at a ‘traffic calming’ narrow point which the driver clearly ignored.
Found out at work today the cyclist killed yesterday was a colleague who left for a new job a month ago. Lovely guy who will be sadly missed and f**k the selfish p***k who murdered him.
NOtotheEU wrote:
Sorry to hear that. When it’s someone you know it’s so much more brutal.
And it makes words by arrogant, selfish, lying toe-rag Howard Cox even more distressing. I guess he’s playing the “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth” game.
These selfish anti-LTN / anti-tax / climate denier junkies ought to nominate a family member they’d like to be crushed by a speeding vehicle, or maybe volunteer to be a crash test dummy themselves if it’s so innocuous.
Thanks. You’re right, it
Thanks. You’re right, it really brings it home and then some idiot spouts off all that nonsense and it just rubs salt in the wound.
It is GB news – they spout
It is GB news – they spout all sorts of brexthick rubbish all the time. What sort of idiots believe anything they spout? The 9% probably 🙂
Really mate?
Really mate? I’ve got no problem with the regular banter but if you could please consider the content of the discussion before jumping straight in that would be great.
According to some research,
According to some research, motorists breathe in more motor vehicle fumes in heavy traffic than cyclists – so they should be the people who wear masks.
kingleo wrote:
Or better yet, stop polluting so much that masks aren’t needed
Really mate?
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