“I’ve never seen it without someone parked in it”: Cyclist waits 15 minutes for Amazon van driver parked in bike lane to move; Alberto Contador warns Tour de France rivals “unbeatable” Tadej Pogačar “looks unstoppable” + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Alberto Contador warns Tour de France rivals "unbeatable" Tadej Pogačar "looks unstoppable"
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Alberto Contador reckons Tadej Pogačar looks “unbeatable” in the early season, the twice Tour de France winner going as far as to say he reckons the Slovenian “looks unstoppable” at this moment in time. Pogačar, who had already equalled the Spaniard’s tally of two yellow jerseys by the age of 22, is now 24 and has started the season in scintillating form, besting his main rival for this year’s Tour, Jonas Vingegaard, at Paris-Nice and is now eyeing victory in some of the sport’s biggest one-day races.
[📷:A.S.O./Aurélien Vialatte]
Speaking to Eurosport, Contador suggested Pogačar is “capable of almost anything” and looks “unbeatable”… (even if he did have some caveats)…
“Do I think Pogačar is unstoppable this season? Well, if we go by what we have seen so far then we could say he looks unstoppable. But I think that there is a lot of the season left. I think he is going for the classics this year… and we will need to see how he manages his efforts. He is putting a lot of energy into his attacks and this could end up taking its toll.
> Check out the Colnago V4Rs Tadej Pogacar rode to Paris-Nice victory
“The Tour is by no means an easy task. There are a lot of factors that come into play. Hitting peak form, preparation, the recovery over three weeks, how his team work, how Jumbo work – his main rival. I think there are a lot of variables.
“It’s true, for now he looks unbeatable and Pogačar is capable of almost anything but I do think that there will be some races that will be harder for him than others.
“It’s incredible how he can go for it from a great distance from the finish line, or in the yellow jersey or just for some bonus seconds to keep gaining time. I think that is gold and I wouldn’t like to see him race in a smarter way. A separate thing is what him and his team decide with regards to winning the Tour de France again.”
The view from the opposition... Jumbo-Visma insists "we are very confident in our approach" for Jonas Vingegaard's Tour de France defence
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No sign of nerves from the Netherlands… Jumbo Visma matter-of-factly telling VeloNews “we are very confident in our approach”. And why wouldn’t they be? It worked last year, Pogačar enthusiastically bounding after anything and everything, taking early season race wins left, right and centre…
Vingegaard improving slowly, peaking just at the right time to dethrone his showy rival at the moment it mattered most, that’ll be the plan again this year.
“We learnt from Paris-Nice, but we won’t let it be a problem. We are very confident in our approach for Jonas and the Tour,” Jumbo-Visma performance director Mathieu Heijboer explained.
“We know from before that Jonas and the whole team have to be 100 or maybe 110 per cent to be able to beat Pogačar. Jonas just wasn’t in the right place mentally at Paris-Nice.
“With an amazing opponent like Pogačar, you just can’t be at 99 per cent to beat him. We knew that already, and unfortunately we saw it at Paris-Nice. But the team, Jonas, we understand why it happened and are confident in what we’re doing.
“I think it’s a gift for us that we have such an amazing opponent. Pogačar pushes us to the very end to do all the things we do at the optimum to try to beat him. So I’m grateful for that.”
Timmy Mallett explores "utterly brilliant Britain" ... and there's not a pothole in sight
Yesterday’s Mallett post went down so well we’re sharing another one…
Yep it’s a road in Britain
Really?
Where are the potholes?!#utterlybrilliantbritain pic.twitter.com/n0CyySl98U
— Timmy Mallett (@TimmyMallett) March 24, 2023
Why are cargo bikes perceived to be only for the wealthy?
road.cc podcast time… you’re in luck, I’m not on this episode…
> “Adrian, you’re wrong!” Pedal Me’s co-founder on cargo bikes + THAT foggy ride on the Isle of Man
Clash of the titans: MVDP vs WVA vs Pog
It’s mini Flanders time and we’ve got some startlist…
With a startlist like this, anything can happen at the E3 Saxo Classic 🤯
📸 Cor Vos
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🇧🇪 #E3SaxoClassic pic.twitter.com/ZJ6rFyeThk— Velon CC (@VelonCC) March 23, 2023
A bit generous putting Cav in that one…
Just the few cards for Jumbo Visma to play… Wout, Benoot, Van Baarle, Laporte. Then again, if Mathieu’s on form, one card is all you need…
Comment of the day
A different definition of the 15 minute city. Sad!
— Nancy Duley (@nduley) March 24, 2023
Can he ride it on a cold rainy night in Stoke?
The big three come to the fore
Attack. Attack. Attack.
Tadej Pogačar jumped twice on the Oude Kwaremont, Van der Poel looks comfortable, Van Aert just about clinging on.
We’ll leave it to GCN co-commentator Adam Blythe to sum it all up… “What a [time]… to be a cycling fan, to watch bike racing seeing these three at the front… it’s what dreams are made of.”
Is today the day we get one normal 24 hours of professional cycling? No...
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) March 24, 2023
If you missed yesterday…
> Bike path cyclist tries to keep up with pro women’s peloton… faceplants miserably
Words exchanged between Pogacar and Van der Poel, a few shakes of the head, then Van Aert chimes in. These guys seem to be just having a laugh at the front of a Belgian classic with 18km remaining. #E3SaxoClassic pic.twitter.com/LnXQfESaWL
— Neal Rogers 🇺🇦 (@nealrogers) March 24, 2023
Wout van Aert wins three-up sprint against Mathieu van der Poel and Tadej Pogačar to defend E3 Saxo Bank Classic
Will Mathieu and Tadej rue the moment, with Van Aert dropped midway up the Kwaremont, when the Belgian was allowed to pull himself back to the leaders? I’d wager they won’t think twice about pressing on if the same scenario arises next Sunday…
"I agree... because I am in the middle": Reaction from the top two
“So Wout, people will say this is the most beautiful E3 podium?”
“I agree… because I am in the middle”
“Because of the strength of the leading group it was hard to try something. I think Tadej did two smaller attacks. For me, I wanted to focus on the sprint and stick to one plan. It’s nice because it’s a long while since I’ve won a race on the road bike. I’m on the right way.”
Next in the chair…MvdP…
“It was a really nice race today, in the end we had some good weather. I felt quite strong and did a few nice attacks, in the end Wout van Aert was too strong in the sprint but I can live with second place and hopefully next week I can turn things around.
“My first time [here] I was third, now second. Maybe I have to come back next year? It was really nice to race against these guys again…”
"I've never seen it without someone parked in it": Cyclist waits 15 minutes for Amazon van driver parked in bike lane to move
Edward from Edinburgh had a live blog of his own going yesterday, live from the scene of some top-tier bike lane parking…
Hi @AmazonUK , could you let me know how long I need to wait? pic.twitter.com/cznGHrAUud
— Edward Tissiman (@edtiss) March 23, 2023
There’s a certain irony in the the sticker telling cyclists to be careful if passing the vehicle on the inside. Anyway, the minutes ticked by… after five, Edward got told to “deal with it” by the driver who was then back for three more parcels in the subsequent 10 minutes.
After a grand total of 15 minutes, one tweet to Amazon threatening an instant Prime cancellation, and 17 cyclists forced out into the road to pass the van… Freedom…
“I’ve never seen it without someone parked in it,” Edward told road.cc and referencing some of his replies… “I seem to have caused a great deal of angst for drivers across the UK, just by trying to keep off the road.”
FREEDOM pic.twitter.com/34nHhmvZlS
— Edward Tissiman (@edtiss) March 23, 2023
If you’re feeling déjà vu…
> Cyclist despairs as Amazon van driver takes cycle lane shortcut before parking on pavement
(We’ve contacted Amazon for comment)
"We are investigating the incident": Amazon speaks out about Edinburgh bike lane blocker
We’ve been in touch with Amazon regarding the above…
The company was quick to point out that Amazon Logistics engages independent delivery providers to provide delivery services, meaning it’s “important to note” that Amazon does not own the vehicles nor employ the drivers, so it would be “wrong to say Amazon driver”.
Anyway, regarding the driver of the Amazon-branded van undertaking Amazon deliveries, Amazon said…
“We have very high standards for the delivery service providers we work with and how they serve customers. We are investigating the incident.”
24 March 2023, 09:05
24 March 2023, 09:05
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Hey, but their wool blend cycling adjacent t-shirts are/were fantastic.
@Surreyrider Still the boss. Ride one, you'll see why
@Smoggysteve "Most would happily ride on the roads and be treated with respect by drivers". But people aren't - and as far as I can see they won't be. Not until there is a lot less driving and it's slower around cyclists, and far more people driving have "skin in the game" eg. they sometimes cycle and their friends and family do also. That's what leads to the model - which is perhaps most advanced in NL - where cycling, walking and driving are all seen as separate normal transport modes. Their needs, vulnerabilities and any dangers to others are considered. And *that* leads to "mix / share when possible, separate when necessary". But "possible" is "where your 10-year old would be safe to cycle unsupervised" - so very few motor vehicles, going slow! And AFAICS everybody - even "existing cyclists" - is happy with the result. (I dunno about a few pro cyclists - but don't they tend to have training camps in different counties anyway?)
@quiff as an Edinburgh resident I can confidently say he's speaking without moving his lips in one sense: - while as I noted in a separate comment there *is* now some real separated cycle infra, all the examples i can think of have *at least as much space* for pedestrians. The rest of the "cycle infra" is essentially similar to the situation in the rest of the UK: eg. bus lanes*, cycle lanes and shared use paths (eg. "build" infra by sticking up a sign). Edinburgh is one of the places with a moderately extensive network of former railways which have been converted to "shared use" paths (completely motor traffic few). However though shared they are not narrow by UK standards. And this is all effectively a "free extra" for all non- motorised users, not like the "sign a cycle path" where pedestrians do lose space. I think this all comes from the "popular understanding" of cycling in which ultimately cyclists are the "other". They don't fit "motor vehicle" or "pedestrian" (including wheelchairs on the very rare occasions people think about that). Thus "cyclists are cheating" in multiple ways! They shouldn't get their own space as "there aren't enough" of them. And "they can just use the road / path". But being able to *choose* "on the road" or "on the footway" (shared use path) is clearly unfair - nobody else gets to do that! BUT of course even if they did pick just one of road OR pedestrian space it's still not fair anyway because they're "too slow" for the road (don't pay "road tax" etc...) and "far too fast" for pedestrians... * Though some existing cyclists may appreciate them when there are few buses, buses and bikes are a very poor mix for several reasons.
Whilst a shame for any employees, their bib shorts had the worst chamois pad I’d ever encountered, utter waste of my money. Even though they were Strava challenge discount purchases, still a waste of money.
Thanks, just going to have to suck it up. Got next week off and will take the easy, if expensive option...
@ktache Just go for the TNT Sports only package, £30.99 for a month. Alternatively have you considered experimenting with a VPN for a few pounds, allowing you to sign up for a free stream abroad, e.g. SBS Australia which streams the Tour live? If I didn't have a kind mate's login that's what I'd do!
So, it's now the month of July and I'm going to have to pay to watch the TdF, for one month only. On a tablet unfortunately, as I didn't manage to get a laptop to rig up to the TV, grrr. Just wondering, what package will I have to fork out for? Not wanting to pay for the wrong one...
Not that it sounds like a dealbreaker given the other faults you've identified, but that cable isn't really a "proprietary" cable, four pin magnetic cables like that are quite common on bone-conducting headphones and other devices (my inexpensive smartwatch uses one) and they can be had for £4.99 on UK Amazon.
41 thoughts on ““I’ve never seen it without someone parked in it”: Cyclist waits 15 minutes for Amazon van driver parked in bike lane to move; Alberto Contador warns Tour de France rivals “unbeatable” Tadej Pogačar “looks unstoppable” + more on the live blog”
Timmy Mallett’s photo is
Timmy Mallett’s photo is edited, surely?
My local council just re-tarmacced one of the main roads near me and it’s lumpy as hell and already showing wear after 3 weeks. Riding to work the day it was re-opened felt like I was on the Roubaix cobblestones.
Our council have just been
Our council have just been given £300K to resurface roads over the next few months…. during which time I will be riding a full suspension MTB as they wont be fit for a road bike anytime soon.
£300k won’t go very far. So
£300k won’t go very far. So definitely stick to full suspension.
May I recommend 3inch low
May I recommend 3inch low pressure tyres.
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Is your local council one of the lesser spotted councils who hasn’t outsourced repairs to some faceless and never held accountable company?
We should name and shame the companies who conduct the poor work. Than the protected civil servant fools who employ them.
Public-private partnership
Public-private partnership for the best of both, innit? The private company happily does crap work and the council don’t bother to check it.
Where does the graft start? Possibly worth a check on the friends and holiday / car / dining opportunity providers of your local councillors and officers…
the south east london route 4
the south east london route 4 from tower bridge out to greenwich is perhaps one of the best planned cycle routes in London – some slightly sharp turns around junctions, but on the whole works well. There is however one very poorly finished section which feels done in a rush to complete the work – very lumpy tarmac. Still better than potholes though
I criticised some of the
I criticised some of the cycle tracks in South Glos on the A38 for their lumpiness, observing that they appear to have been laid by a drunken chimpanzee with a shovel.
I always used to think that
I always used to think that Timmy Mallet was some sort of irritating eccentric, but now I know he’s keen on getting around on a bike I’m not so sure…
not sure if you’re being
not sure if you’re being sarcastic….but many will think being on a bike IS being a sort of irritating eccentric
Having to google the word
Having to google the word ‘caveat’ as didn’t know the word existed until coming on this site..
Type of posh fish eggs, innit
Type of posh fish eggs, innit.
Amazon seems to have an
Amazon seems to have an active policy of pavement and cycle lane parking. They are easily worse than any other delivery company for that dangerous, antisocial illegal behavior.
The replies on that Twitter
The replies on that Twitter thread are insane. I wonder if those people are just as tolerant when a HGV parks and blocks a road while unloading…?
Imagine the anger if that
Imagine the anger if that amzon van driver had stopped in the road lane for 15 minutes just to fuck about with three people’s unecessary crap from Papa Jeff!
Certainly Amazon vans do so
Certainly Amazon vans do so round where I stay. However everyone does, including driving instructors (happy to take a break on double yellows for 15 minutes between lessons), the posties (van fully on the pavement), the council (blocking junctions / cycle path just ‘cos that was the nearest point)…
Ah posties are allowed to
Ah posties are allowed to park wherever they want, because of the Royal crest/warrant they have and their duty delivering the King’s mail.
In fact I think it’s a legal offence to delay or prevent a postie from delivering the mail because of that royal link.
Unfortunately the rest just copy the posties and without a council bothered to tackle it properly, it simply becomes default driving behaviour.
Ah, that will explain why one
Ah, that will explain why one of them overtook me as I was in the middle of the lane, arm outstretched to turn right.
You do know it’s not illegal
You do know it’s not illegal any more, at least if you turn on your flashing lights of absolution? Road markings are mere decoration.
Is it not time that some
Is it not time that some entrepreneur filled the obvious gap for a small, light wheel clamp? Such delivery drivers are running to a tight schedule, and if it takes them an hour to remove a clamp, but parking there only saves them two minutes, the effect could be dramatic.
Also incredibly satisfying.
eburtthebike wrote:
That’d likely be considered criminal damage in the same way that Tyre Extinguishers are considere to be damaging private property.
But a clamp doesn’t damage
But a clamp doesn’t damage the vehicle, it merely inconveniences the driver.
In the same way that letting
In the same way that letting the tyres down for short periods doesn’t damage the tyres?
Temporary impairment of value
Temporary impairment of value or usefulness is enough: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/criminal-damage
quiff wrote:
it’s also a specific offence under POFA2012
But it rather depends on
But it rather depends on identifiying the suspect, and how would they do that?
Re the DPD driver in Leith
Re the DPD driver in Leith Walk. From this recent newspaper article it appears that LRT (the Edinburgh council owned bus company) drivers know how to deal with these people.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/lothian-buses-driver-punched-delivery-29505057
Although it is perhaps a touch extreme.
What would the crack be if
What would the crack be if all these delivery companies got on board e-cargo bikes or similar? Where would everyone expect the driver/rider to leave the bike whilst delivering….on the pavement, obstructing pedestrians or left in the cycle lane obstructing that? Genuine question, not being pedantic.
Any cargo bike (max 1 m wide)
Any cargo bike (max 1 m wide) would simply park on the road (yellow lines shown – no loading ban in place) – not wide enough to cause an obstruction or the pavement / bike lane – again no known cargo bike is anywhere near wide enought to block access in the way that Amazon van (2.5 m wide) is doing. Genuine answer.
Typical Amazon van driver,
Typical Amazon van driver, don’t give a damn about anyone else.
As for the van, I’ve often wondered why these vans are allowed on the roads if they have blind spots, not as if they are that big.
Didn’t the ‘unbeatable’
Didn’t the ‘unbeatable’ Pogacar get beaten only last weekend? I must have dreamt it.
ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:
I think something’s probably been lost in translation, he meant he looks like he will be unbeatable in the Tour de France, clearly he didn’t mean he expects him to win every race he enters.
Rendel Harris wrote:
I think something’s probably been lost in translation, he meant he looks like he will be unbeatable in the Tour de France, clearly he didn’t mean he expects him to win every race he enters.— ShutTheFrontDawes
Ah, when Contador said “I think he is going for the classics this year”, I thought he must have meant classics. You know, like Milan San Remo (aka The Spring Classic, aka La Classicissima). Not quite sure how that could be lost in translation. My mistake perhaps.
Yes, he does mean that he’s
Yes, he does mean that he’s going for the classics and so that’s a caveat as to his unbeatability in the Tour, depending how much the early season takes out of him, still pretty sure AC didn’t mean TP was going to be unbeatable in every race he enters.
Rendel Harris wrote:
So he’s “unbeatable” and “unstoppable” in one race of the season, unless he decides to actually race in others? Sounds like we’ve got a great season on our hands. I seem to remember people saying something similar of froome the year Thomas took his first TdF win.
There’s a certain irony in
There’s a certain irony in the the sticker telling cyclists to be careful if passing the vehicle on the inside
This is not lost on us victims of Stagecoach bus drivers
https://upride.cc/incident/px12dnu_stagecoach40bus_closepass/
https://upride.cc/incident/px12eez_stagecoach41_closepass/
https://upride.cc/incident/px62cea_stagecoach42_uwlcrossclosepass/
or Sainsbury’s 44 tonners- this is for people tired of looking at close-pass videos. The summary is that the back of the offending vehicle looks like this, and that in each case the expletive-deleted Lancashire expletive-deleted Constabulary expletive-deleteds did nothing about the offence
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Erm… it’s got your name and logo plastered all over it. Of course it’s an Amazon van and the driver is an Amazon driver. If you don’t want us to say it’s an Amazon van with an Amazon driver you know what to do.
Clevedon seafront latest:
Clevedon seafront latest:
Looks good
Looks good
brooksby wrote:
Maybe I’m admitting to being a terrible driver, but I think I would get confused on that road with those markings… though at least I slow down when I’m confused.
Nah mate. The terrible
Nah mate. The terrible drivers just plough through.