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Rigoberto Urán drafted by backpack-wearing local at 45km/h; MTB’er jumps straight into collision; Cyclist struck by bottle from passing pick-up; Skoda Octavia with anti-dooring tech goes on sale + more on the live blog

Welcome to Tuesday’s live blog, with Jack Sexty in charge and Simon MacMichael adding some contributions later this evening
  • by Jack Sexty
Tue, Jun 09, 2020 08:36
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SUMMARY

  • It's not all about the watts: Alex Dowsett gives a boat load of useful tips for budding young pros
  • A rare occasion where the cyclist really did come out of nowhere
  • Sainsbury's roll out 'Chop Chop' beyond London, as bike delivery service arrives in 20 more cities
  • UK plans to make scrapping of bike tyres illegal
  • Things go from embarrassing to... even more embarrassing for bike-riding US cops
  • "The real competition is out on the road": Rigoberto Urán drafted by man with khakis, work boots and a backpack at 45km/h
  • An optimistic error
  • Bristol bike shop claims to have sold eight bikes in 20 minutes, as lockdown bike boom continues
  • Police appeal for witnesses after cyclist punched and racially abused in Northamptonshire
  • The term 'upcycling' takes on a whole new meaning...
  • Skoda debut new anti-dooring technology on Octavia model
  • Witness appeal after cyclist struck by bottle from passing pick-up truck
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9 June 2020, 08:36

It's not all about the watts: Alex Dowsett gives a boat load of useful tips for budding young pros

While cranking out more watts is definitely helpful, the Israel Start-Up Nation rider and former Hour Record holder has some wise words of advice for young cyclists who have ambitions to make it at World Tour level. 

9 June 2020, 08:36

A rare occasion where the cyclist really did come out of nowhere

Hahahah serieus maar waar was deze fietser mee bezig dan? 🤷‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/1bgRB7YTgV

— Bas Tietema (@BasTietema) June 8, 2020

While the phrase ‘Sorry Mate I Didn’t See You’ has been bandied about by countless inattentive drivers since the dawn of the motor vehicle, we can safely say that in this case, the driver most certainly wasn’t at fault. As he approaches a crossing, a man appears flying through the air on a mountain bike and crashes straight into the windscreen; hopefully the cyclist suffered no serious damage, and will think more carefully before using a road as a stage to perform stunts on in future. 

Though the caption is in Dutch we’re not certain if the video originates from the Netherlands; but if it was, ‘presumed liability’ law usually dictates that in traffic collisions between motor vehicles and cyclists/pedestrians, the driver of the motor vehicle is considered to be at fault as a starting point when cases go to court. You’d like to think that in this instance, however, common sense and the video evidence would exonerate the driver…

9 June 2020, 08:36

Sainsbury's roll out 'Chop Chop' beyond London, as bike delivery service arrives in 20 more cities

Chop CHop delivery riders (picture via Sainsbury's)
Chop CHop delivery riders (picture via Sainsbury's) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Chop CHop delivery riders (picture via Sainsbury's)
Chop CHop delivery riders (picture via Sainsbury's) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The Sainsbury’s Chop Chop service – which aims to deliver essential groceries by bike to customers within the hour – has now extended beyond London to 20 more cities. The Yorkshire Post reports that the service landed in Leeds today, and by the end of June a total of 50 stores will be offering Chop Chop. 

Sainsbury’s re-launched the service in April, citing unprecedented demand due to the lockdown and those who were self-isolating. Customers can choose up to 20 essential items, and they promise delivery within 60 minutes of an order being placed. Sainsbury’s say they have doubled the number of orders they can fulfill in the London stores that are offering Chop Chop since the start of April, and rolling out to the extra 50 stores countrywide will increase capacity by another 400%. 

9 June 2020, 08:36

UK plans to make scrapping of bike tyres illegal

Once this legislation has been
passed specific waste streams will be targeted and DEFRA have confirmed that bike
tyres will be one of the first. It is good that the UK cycle trade is one step ahead.#recycling #sustainability https://t.co/AZ607xaULv

— VelorimLtd (@VelorimL) June 9, 2020

It’s something that has long been advocated by tyre and inner tube recycling innovators Velorim; and now the government are stepping in to ensure bike tyres are suitably recycled, making it illegal to dump them. 

While dumping car tyres was outlawed in 2003, Cycling Industry News report that due to a lack of viable recycling schemes, this never extended to bike tyres despite them being made of almost identical materials. 

Velorim will take charge of a collection and recycling scheme that is set to be rolled out by the end of 2020, with participating bike shops, workshops and hire schemes becoming collection points. Their CEO Dave Hawthorn commented: “The introduction of the National Bicycle Tyre Recycling Scheme will mean that cycling can rightly claim to be the most environmentally responsible of sports.”

Velorim say on their website that currently, over 30 million bike tyres and 152 million inner tubes are disposed of annually in the UK, with 99% ending up in landfill. 

9 June 2020, 08:36

Things go from embarrassing to... even more embarrassing for bike-riding US cops

You remember those bicycle cops? LMAAAAO 🤣 pic.twitter.com/I8EGcu1mGo

— Witch Doctor Seuss (@X_sequitur) June 7, 2020

Last week, a rather cringey video surfaced of a police ‘Bike Response Team’ performing some pretty unimpressive skids… and now, another clip has gone viral in which a cop performs a similar move, before dismounting and taking quite a tumble while attempting to pursue a Black Lives Matter protestor.

It’s been suggested that scenes such as this could have had a negative impact on bike brands that appear in the footage, with the officers in the ‘Bike Response Team’ video all riding Trek hardtails; although Trek’s president John Burke has already written a lengthy blog post strongly condemning the killing of George Floyd and calling for change.

At a time where US policing is under intense scrutiny following the outrage over George Floyd’s death, Fuji have already recognised the potential for damage to their brand and stopped supplying bicycles to police departments: they said in a statement: “In an effort to make real change, we are beginning a dialogue with police departments nationwide to address how bikes are used in police activity and to ensure that police’s on-bike training reinforces that bicycles are not a weapon against our community.

“At this time, we are suspending the sale of Fuji police bikes until a conversation with these departments has occurred and we are confident that real change is being made.”

9 June 2020, 08:36

"The real competition is out on the road": Rigoberto Urán drafted by man with khakis, work boots and a backpack at 45km/h

 
 
 
 
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Mijitos vean pues, cuando le sale a uno la verdadera competencia en el camino.

A post shared by Rigoberto Urán (@rigobertouran) on Jun 8, 2020 at 5:38am PDT

He has all the gear and a very good idea, but still Rigoberto Urán was humbled by a cyclist carrying a backpack and dressed in baggy khakis on a training ride in his native Colombia. Dressed in full EF Pro Cycling kit and riding a Cannondale SuperSlice TT bike, Urán appears to be putting plenty of effort in, but our hero hangs on quite comfortably. Unless they’re some SPD-equipped heavy duty boots we don’t know about, his footwear isn’t exactly advantageous either. 

According to Marca, the cyclist is a farmer and the pair were riding at around 45km/h. When they stopped for a quick chat, Urán says he was “surprised” by the man’s speed despite his advanced years: “This streamlined guy appears alongside me and I thought, this one is getting ready for the Tour”, he added. 

It appears this definitely wasn’t a set up photo/video opportunity either; Uran’s Strava account shows that he completed a four hour jaunt yesterday morning, taking in over 2,000m of elevation over a distance of 112km. 

9 June 2020, 08:36

An optimistic error

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In fairness, the days don’t half all seem samey at the moment… 

9 June 2020, 08:36

Bristol bike shop claims to have sold eight bikes in 20 minutes, as lockdown bike boom continues

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Speaking to The Guardian, Andrew Bebesi – owner of independent bike shop Brisycle – claims that he works up to 18 hour days and has doubled staff numbers due to the rise of cycling since the start of the pandemic: “Last Saturday, we sold eight bikes in 20 minutes. As soon as we opened the door, they were just pulling the bikes out”, said Bebesi. 

With traffic beginning to return to the roads, cycling advocacy groups are doing all they can to ensure councils and the government continue the legacy by securing funding for cycling infrastructure. Cycling UK’s Duncan Dollimore told The Guardian: “In another month, time will be running out – traffic will be increasing, people won’t be able to use public transport. There’s an urgent need to act, otherwise people who can’t use public transport will choose to get in the car again. Get on with it or the moment will have gone and we will have lost this opportunity to have this once-in-a-lifetime change to the way people move around urban areas.”

9 June 2020, 08:36

Police appeal for witnesses after cyclist punched and racially abused in Northamptonshire

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Police tape (Image Credit: CC licensed by freefotouk on Flickr)
Police tape
Police tape (Image Credit: CC licensed by freefotouk on Flickr)

Northamptonshire Police say that the incident took place between 6.10pm and 6.20pm in Burystead Place, Wellingborough on 21st May, as the cyclist was passing through Croyland Gardens. The cyclist rang his bell to alert two men who were on the footpath that was coming past; however as he cycled past, one became verbally abusive and used racist language. The 44-year-old cyclist then stopped, and the offender punched him in the face. He is described as a white male in his 20’s, of a slim build and around 6ft tall, and was carrying a can of beer at the time of the assault. 

9 June 2020, 08:36

The term 'upcycling' takes on a whole new meaning...

Up cycling 😂 pic.twitter.com/6Xzk7N41NI

— CCTV_IDIOTS (@cctv_idiots) June 9, 2020

9 June 2020, 08:36

Skoda debut new anti-dooring technology on Octavia model

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Sir Bradley Wiggins (picture courtesy Skoda UK) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Sir Bradley Wiggins (picture courtesy Skoda UK).jpg
Sir Bradley Wiggins (picture courtesy Skoda UK) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Coinciding with Bike Week, Skoda’s fourth generation Octavia is now available to order to UK customers, and includes their ‘Exit Warning’ technology that alerts drivers/passengers to potential hazards when opening a car door. The car also features Predictive Cycling Protection, which gives warnings to the driver if a cyclist is detected ahead. 

A Skoda spokesperson told ShinyShiny: “The all-new fourth-generation Octavia is the most technologically advanced Skoda yet and one of the most cycle-friendly cars on the market.

“Naturally cyclists face daily challenges associated with cycling on busy roads, including avoiding car doors as they open. The technology introduced in the new Octavia, particularly Exit Warning, is there to assist drivers in helping to mitigate and reduce potential accidents.”

Ford also revealed they were working on anti-dooring technology earlier this year, which would prevent car doors from opening fully when cyclists approached. Cycle safety advocates promote the ‘Dutch reach’ as the most effective non-technological way to prevent dooring; this involves the car driver or passenger opening their door with the hand that is furthest away from it, forcing them to look over their shoulder.  

9 June 2020, 08:36

Witness appeal after cyclist struck by bottle from passing pick-up truck

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Thames Valley Police are appealing for information after a cyclist was left with bruising and inflammation to his chest due to a water bottle being thrown from a white pick-up truck. 

The incident happened at 2.35pm on Sunday 31st May, and the male victim was one of two cyclists riding on the B3021 Southlea Road from Datchet to Windsor when the assault occurred. A person from the pick-up travelling in the opposite direction threw a drinks bottle at the cyclists, which hit the victim in the chest; the victim didn’t require hospital treatment. 

Investigating officer PC Alexander Massey said: “This was a frightening experience for the two cyclists, and I am appealing to anyone who has any information about this incident to come forward.

“If you were driving or cycling in the area at the time and saw anything, please get in touch. You can contact us using the online reporting form, quoting reference number 43200160762. If you cannot report online, call the 24 hour non-emergency number 101.”

9 June 2020, 08:36

“Bullshit!” Johan Bruyneel on Greg LeMond’s insistence he won the Tour de France clean

“Bullshit!” Johan Bruyneel on Greg LeMond’s insistence he won the Tour de France clean

Lance Armstrong’s former boss, serving lifetime ban, also hits out at Bjarne Riis’s return to the sport

9 June 2020, 08:36

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9 June 2020, 08:36

Full story on the plans to scrap the unnecessary scrapping of bike tyres

Scrapping bicycle tyres may be about to become illegal. Here’s how to recycle yours

Scrapping bicycle tyres may be about to become illegal. Here’s how to recycle yours

A new bicycle tyre recycling scheme is due by the end of 2020

9 June 2020, 08:36

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22 thoughts on “Rigoberto Urán drafted by backpack-wearing local at 45km/h; MTB’er jumps straight into collision; Cyclist struck by bottle from passing pick-up; Skoda Octavia with anti-dooring tech goes on sale + more on the live blog”

  1. OldRidgeback
    June 9, 2020 at 9:19 am
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    I’ve seen the clip of the MTB

    I’ve seen the clip of the MTB rider on Twitter. What the hell did the rider think he was doing? I hope he’s ok. I hope he learns something from this.

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    • visionset
      June 9, 2020 at 9:29 am
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      yeah, much bigger ramp

      yeah, much bigger ramp

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    • caw35ride
      June 9, 2020 at 3:05 pm
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      OldRidgeback wrote:

      What the hell did the rider think he was doing?

      — OldRidgeback

      A Backflip Superman? Perhaps something more showy.   😀

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    • I love my bike
      June 9, 2020 at 3:27 pm
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      That he didn’t need to

      That he didn’t need to replace a helmet that obviously saved his life?

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  2. Hirsute
    June 9, 2020 at 10:25 am
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    When people say “expect the

    When people say “expect the unexpected”, that clip shows what a pointless phrase it is.

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    • FluffyKittenofTindalos
      June 9, 2020 at 11:54 am
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      If you “expect the unexpected

      If you “expect the unexpected”, then it ceases to be “unexpected”, becuase you now “expect” it,  so logically you should immediately stop expecting it again, and so on, in an accelerating loop.

       

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      • henryb
        June 9, 2020 at 12:53 pm
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        FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

        If you “expect the unexpected”, then it ceases to be “unexpected”, becuase you now “expect” it,  so logically you should immediately stop expecting it again, and so on, in an accelerating loop

        — FluffyKittenofTindalos

        At the risk of coming across as slightly pedantic, I think you’re allowed to expect the expected too, so the phrase should be “Expect the unexpected, and the expected”, but you’re right that this just pushes everything into the ‘expected’ category. The real danger is that this gives you an infinite number of things you have to be continually expecting, which could be a distraction from actual driving.

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    • Mungecrundle
      June 9, 2020 at 12:12 pm
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      Or to chanel Donald Rumsfeld.
      Or to chanel Donald Rumsfeld.

      The expected expecteds, the expected unexpecteds and the unexpected unexpecteds.

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      • brooksby
        June 9, 2020 at 12:19 pm
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        Mungecrundle wrote:

        Or to chanel Donald Rumsfeld. The expected expecteds, the expected unexpecteds and the unexpected unexpecteds.

        — Mungecrundle

        Well I hadn’t seen that comparison coming! 😉

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        • Mungecrundle
          June 9, 2020 at 3:36 pm
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          I expect you had some
          I expect you had some expectations.

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  3. Rich_cb
    June 9, 2020 at 10:28 am
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    No video evidence and
    No video evidence and presumed liability has the driver on the hook for that one.

    It’s such a great system, can’t see why we don’t do it.

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    • EddyBerckx
      June 9, 2020 at 10:51 am
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      Yet in 70% of cases in a
      Yet in 70% of cases in a deeply biased (against the cyclist) system drivers are actually found to be at fault? (In less than 10% of cases the cyclists are at fault with the rest as ‘other’s or joint responsibility)

      In this case even without video evidence I doubt it’d be too hard to put the blame rightly on the cyclist.

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      • Rich_cb
        June 9, 2020 at 3:39 pm
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        With no video evidence or
        With no video evidence or witnesses how would you prove that the cyclist was at fault?

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  4. Organon
    June 9, 2020 at 12:33 pm
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    44,000 tonnes of tyre waste?

    44,000 tonnes of tyre waste? So 44 million kilos, or a kilo of waste every year for every adult in the country. I am a keen cyclist and I don’t throw away that many tyres. Something off in those figures.

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    • roubaixcobbles
      June 9, 2020 at 2:01 pm
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      The full story says this

      The full story says this represents 35M tyres and 150M inner tubes which doesn’t sound so unbelievable. As a relatively (4000-6000km/year) low mileage cyclist (I know, that looks silly, but I can’t bring myself to say “kilometrage”) I probably get through two pairs of road tyres (approx 1kg) and a pair of MTB tyres (1.5kg) each year plus half a dozen tubes, say 600g, so around 3kg per year. Clearly keen racers or trail riders will get through a lot more. Mind you I do ride a lot in glass-strewn London, and tyres and tubes are generally discarded due to severe damage rather than wear.

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      • stomec
        June 9, 2020 at 7:05 pm
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        roubaixcobbles wrote:

        The full story says this represents 35M tyres and 150M inner tubes which doesn’t sound so unbelievable. As a relatively (4000-6000km/year) low mileage cyclist (I know, that looks silly, but I can’t bring myself to say “kilometrage”) I probably get through two pairs of road tyres (approx 1kg) and a pair of MTB tyres (1.5kg) each year plus half a dozen tubes, say 600g, so around 3kg per year. Clearly keen racers or trail riders will get through a lot more. Mind you I do ride a lot in glass-strewn London, and tyres and tubes are generally discarded due to severe damage rather than wear.

        — roubaixcobbles

        Crikey I’m glad I don’t live in London! Doing at least the same milage up north my usage is <25% of that – have you considered eg some Marathon Plus or similar for your commute?  And tubeless for the MTB?

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    • ChrisB200SX
      June 9, 2020 at 4:43 pm
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      Organon wrote:

      44,000 tonnes of tyre waste? So 44 million kilos, or a kilo of waste every year for every adult in the country. I am a keen cyclist and I don’t throw away that many tyres. Something off in those figures.

      — Organon

      Yeah, getting on towards a kilo of tyres/tubes per person per year in the UK. Pretty sure that number is just made up.
      Don’t understand why there isn’t already a recycle system in place?

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      • Huw Watkins
        June 9, 2020 at 5:47 pm
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        That number is arrant

        That number is arrant nonsense.

        GOV.UK says ‘ the proportion of adults cycling at least once a week in England fell slightly from 2015 to 2016 in 12% to 11% in 2017 to 2018’

        Suspect they’d be better off looking at the number sold and to assume 1:1 scrappage given the number of cylists looks to be flat at the moment. 

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      • Awavey
        June 9, 2020 at 5:54 pm
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        consider it a ball park

        consider it a ball park estimate then,no doubt theyve counted the amount of new tyres/inner tubes sold and assumed they arent being used as talking point art installations in peoples homes and applied an average weight per item to it all.

        But does it really matter if its 44,000 or 22,000, or only 4,400, its still a heck of a lot stuff going into landfill needlessly that should be recycled.

        and the reason there isnt a system in place already, is because it costs extra money to process tyres/tubes and people rarely choose the pay option if they have the free option still, which then makes any system uneconomical to run, so unless everyone is legally forced to pay to recycle it it doesnt work.

        Id argue the cost should be included in the price of a new tube or tyre but that would no doubt drive people to find online importers who were fractionally pennies cheaper still

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  5. Tuslareb
    June 9, 2020 at 1:03 pm
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    With regards to the jumping

    With regards to the jumping cyclist: as at Dutchman I can say It doesn’t look like The Netherlands. The yellow traffic signs seems like Sweden to me. 

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  6. andyp363
    June 9, 2020 at 1:48 pm
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    Jumping MTB’r

    Jumping MTB’r

    Teenager done exactly that to me a couple of days ago   cracked my 6 week old supersix, both alright though apart from my emotional devastation

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  7. Rome73
    June 10, 2020 at 7:47 am
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    Those ‘elite’ cycle cops

    Those ‘elite’ cycle cops again! I wonder what the dude in the red t shirt was doing that caused the ‘elite’ cycle cop to attempt to chase after him? In the short video evidence it seems as if he was just standing there when the ‘elite’ cycle division  start bombing towards him. And quite rightly he ran away. 

    Here’s the version with audio 

    I found the version with audio: pic.twitter.com/lCg6tJ5rAc

    — ℳatt (matttomic.bsky.social) (@matttomic) June 8, 2020

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mctrials23 54 minutes ago

I would love it if bike manufacturers offered us more exciting paint jobs. Seems like some of the chinese brands are offering far more customisation in their framesets. You see so many cool paintjobs on professionals bikes and then you look at the offerings to us mortals and its depressing. I know part of this is that they also reserve the more interesting or exciting paint jobs for the top end bikes to lure people up the price ladder but its a shame nonetheless.

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Sredlums 12 hours ago

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Rendel Harris 13 hours ago

@Sreedlums That's hilarious, the article is literally about two Decathlon Tour de France bikes and comparing them. It says that everywhere, in the headline, in the subhead, in the body text. It says it's "a good excuse to look back at how Decathlon’s top-level race bikes have changed over the last 25 years", how on earth can you get from that to "this article was *not* about these two bikes"? Go on swearing black is white all you want, but you are totally wrong.

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whosatthewheel 13 hours ago

@Sriracha They have got what makes bicycles be recognized by the public as bicycles, and what motorbikes haven't got - pedals, that's why.

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Sredlums 13 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Oh wait, so now the article is only about Decathlon's TdF bikes? Because that's in the headline? That's funny, because in your previous comment you said "I think if you look really hard you can see this is an article about how Tour de France bikes have changed",. So, which is it? You can keep cherry-picking snippets of text, but it doesn't change the fact that this article was *not* about these two bikes, nor was it about TdF bikes. This article took these two bikes as examples of top road bikes of their time, to take a broader look at how road bike tech has changed in 30 years. And my original comment was about exactly that; road bikes then and now.

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Rendel Harris 14 hours ago

@Sredlums Did you miss this bit? See the words "Tour de France bikes" there? Easy to miss, only being in the headline and all...

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Sredlums 14 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Except of course, Rendel, it is not. This sentence is in the intro of this article: "We compare Jaan Kirsipuu’s early-2000s AG2R race bike with Paul Seixas’ latest machine to chart a quarter of a century of tech progress", and this is the sentence with which they end the article: "Would you like to have a soft spot for bike tech of the past? Or is it best left to history?". Nowhere does it say they are looking only at bikes from the TdF. They honed in on these two specific Decathlon bikes to compare bike tech then with bike tech now.

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