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Jeremy Vine and Laurence Fox clash over riding two abreast video; Will Carling's two pennies; Overtaking lessons with Cycling Mikey; Jason Kenny undecided on retirement; A closer look at Sebastian Vettel's bike; Penny Farthing epic + more on the live blog

It's Monday and Dan Alexander is back for another week of live blogging ...
09 August 2021, 16:03
Best and (mainly) worst of the two abreast 'debate'

Not a great advert for the Twitter verified account badge... 

09 August 2021, 15:24
Ineos Grenadiers name stacked squad for Vuelta a España

 A familiar sight at Grand Tours these days: Ineos Grenadiers picking a ridiculously talented group of riders for a GC challenge. Tom Pidcock makes his Grand Tour debut off the back of winning gold at the Tokyo Olympics and will be riding in support of whichever of the Ineos alphas proves himself to be strongest. Giro d'Italia winner Egan Bernal and Olympic road race winner Richard Carapaz return, while Adam Yates is the third option and comes to the Vuelta having targeted the race all season.

In support, Ineos call upon Pavel Sivakov for the high mountains as well as experienced domestiques Dylan van Baarle and Salvatore Puccio. Giro stage winner Jhonatan Narvaez is the final member of the team. It's been a busy day for Vuelta team releases. Movistar announced their standard three-pronged attack of Alejandro Valverde, Enric Mas and Miguel Ángel López. Bahrain Victorious too have three options: Giro runner-up Damiano Caruso, Mikel Landa and Jack Haig. Elsewhere, Brit James Knox got the call up for Deceuninck Quick-Step. Bring on Saturday.

09 August 2021, 15:19
Riding a bike at 1,000ft in the air
09 August 2021, 14:16
Two abreast debate reaction: Jeremy Vine warns one Tweeter after some more cyclist-bashing

This two abreast storm has run on and on with too many Z-list opinions and radio presenter ramblings to count (that doesn't include you, Mr Vine). There has also unfortunately been a distasteful side to it...like this one above (as well as the usual anti-cyclist bingo)...It's probably a good life rule not to crack jokes about knocking down cyclists...but, if you absolutely have to don't do it on an account where it's obvious who your employer is...

09 August 2021, 13:34
Scot completes 108-mile Penny Farthing epic in a kilt

David Fox-Pitt MBE has raised £12,000 to fund places at Glenalmond College for children who would not otherwise be able to attend the school. An epic Penny Farthing challenge was his chosen money-raising method. The parent of two pupils at the school completed 175km (108 miles) on his big-wheeled machine over 14 arduous hours in the saddle.

Fox-Pitt set off through Stirling, heading north through Crieff, Braco and Comrie before ticking off Lochearnhead, Killin, Kenmore, Aberfeldy and Caputh on the way back to Glenalmond. A mechanical issue after 25km threatened the challenge and some characteristically unpredictable Scottish weather meant he finished the ride with a soaked kilt.

"Our thanks go to all those who donated and helped us to raise such an excellent total which will go towards bursaries to support more young people to attend Glenalmond," Mr Fox-Pitt told the Daily Record.

If you think David's ride was epic, how about Richard Thoday who in 2019 successfuly rode from Land's End to John O'Groats on a Penny Farthing in four days 11 hours and 52 minutes to break a 133-year record...

09 August 2021, 13:10
British Cycling announces new long-term plan to grow BMX freestyle and build on Olympic success with million-pound community facility investment

British Cycling is targeting more success in BMX freestyle off the back of a strong debut in Tokyo. Aimed at nurturing the grassroots of the sport, British Cycling hopes to build on the inspiration of Olympic champion Charlotte Worthington and bronze medallist Declan Brooks with a million-pound investment in community facilities. 

The investment will see facilities in Sutton-in-Ashfield, Corby and Darwen improved, as well as deciding on a long-term home for the Olympic standard park in Telford which was used by Worthington and Brooks in preparation for the Games. 

Dani Every, British Cycling Delivery Director, said: "BMX freestyle, thanks to the heroic performances of Charlotte and Declan at the Tokyo Olympics, has captured the attention of the whole country so I am delighted to be announcing our ambitions for this exciting discipline of cycle sport. 

"With the support of a commission which features expertise from the BMX freestyle community across facilities, coaching, judging and former elite riders, we have begun the serious business of ensuring the hard-earned achievements of Charlotte and Declan deliver a long-term legacy."

09 August 2021, 13:10
Monday mood
09 August 2021, 11:32
Behind the scenes at the Tour de France with EF Education-Nippo

09 August 2021, 10:27
Monday bike porn: A closer look at Sebastian Vettel's beauty
Sebastian Vettel's bike (Image credit: J.Laverack Bicycles)

Last Thursday the blog included a clip of Sebastian Vettel rocking up to the Hungarian Grand Prix by bike, while most of the other drivers were chauffeur driven in sponsor cars. 

J.Laverack Bicycles got in touch with all the juicy deets about Vettel's ride, which they built up for the F1 star. The R J.ACK Disc 54cm Race geometry frame was put together with full Shimano DuraAce Di2, Pro Vibe carbon bars and one of ÆRA's forks and carbon seatposts. The 700c carbon wheels also come courtesy of the UK brand and are hand-built with Chris King R45d hubs, Sapim CX-Ray spokes and brass nipples. For a little extra comfort, Vettel's build is finished off with 28mm Conti GP5000 tubeless tyres, a Brooks C13 saddle and Fizik soft touch bar tape. What a machine.

09 August 2021, 09:53
Record-breaker Jason Kenny reconsidering retirement having won historic seventh Olympic gold medal
Jason Kenny during Tokyo 2020 sprint qualifying (Copyright Alex Whitehead, SWpix.com).JPG

Jason Kenny's keirin gold on the final day of the Tokyo Olympic Games added another memorable paragraph to his chapter in the record books...The 33-year-old stunned his rivals, sprinting clear with three laps to go and holding on to secure his seventh Olympic gold medal, the first Briton to achieve the feat.

Asked by reporters if it was his final race, Kenny said: "If you'd asked me this morning, I would have said, 'Yeah, probably,' but now I feel pretty good so I might carry on. This morning, in my head, I was 33 and getting slower. From a British cycling point of view, you'd rather back someone who is 20 and getting faster. It was difficult.

"I haven't been able to train the way I want to, I've had niggles. It might not be up to me. I was disappointed with my pace here so it might be out of my hands."

Could we see number eight in Paris?

09 August 2021, 09:24
Will Carling interjects on the two abreast debate...although you might wish he hadn't

Thoughts on Will Carling's "I am a cyclist" thoughts? Cycling Mikey tried to explain why it is more considerate to ride two abreast as it reduces the overtaking distance while also making things much safer for the riders...Anyone got any theories about why riding two abreast winds up some motorists so much?

09 August 2021, 08:46
Here we go again...
Cyclists trending on Twitter (screenshot Twitter)

 

09 August 2021, 07:37
Jeremy Vine and Laurence Fox clash over riding two abreast video

No surprises Jeremy Vine has been preaching sensible ideas about cycling again. Perhaps no surprises either that Laurence Fox has not...

It started when Vine shared the video above showing a group ride travelling two abreast. The presenter and broadcaster is in the passenger seat and tells the camera: "Sunday morning in the country. Absolutely no problem with this at all, exactly how cyclists should ride.

"They're calming the traffic behind them and we won't overtake unless we have a really wide amount of clearance. If we want to go at 70mph, we can go and find a motorway - this is absolutely fine. There is no need for us to be going any faster than this and we wish them well."

If only Lozza saw it that way too...

The former London mayoral candidate jumped on the opportunity to have a pop at "Mamils" and "Tour de France wannabes" showing horse riders "the usual zero respect". And is wasn't just Laurence...

Now, I don't know about you but I'd say it's fairly uncontroversial for all road users to act respectfully around horse riders. I'd be surprised if too many here did not.

If you want some more background on Fox's attitude towards cyclists, here's his 2017 take on Room 101...

Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.

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JLasTSR | 2 years ago
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As a cyclist I agree with Jeremy's comments except the bit about calming the traffic behind. I don't mind how fast people overtake me providing they give me a reasonable amount of room. I would certainly never set out with the idea that I am there to slow anybody else down. I don't think Jeremy meant it quite that way either. Admittedly when the odd one goes past at nearer 90 than 60 it is a bit of a surprise. On a horse it can be a bit different. Even the best horse can do something unexpected, like a cyclist avoiding a pothole a horse will sometimes dance round a "shadow". While cycling you can look before the dodge, on the horse it just suddenly happens. As a horserider that can be interesting to say the least and you need to rapidly look for danger, re-establish control and carry out any course corrections. So I prefer it if people slow down when they pass and don't rev their engine too hard. If they race by well I tend to think they are being a bit thoughtless but providing they give me a decent amount of room then I am reasonably ok with it. However I tend to pick the roads I take the horse on more carefully than when cycling where I am happy to go on fast main roads.  While driving an old and slow tractor I will always let traffic by when there are more than 10 cars behind me especially if the first one looks clueless about overtaking. Old slow tractors especially with a trailer behind them can be hard to see round especially if you drive too close to them.  I think people sometimes forget that country roads can be relatively fast roads as well so planning an overtake should be simple but you may have to wait for a minute or so before you can carry it out. That is the same as when you come up behind a slower driver. Equally cycling two abreast or more is perfectly fine and should cause no issues for other road users. It is all part and parcel of being a road user and sharing the road with others in a sympathetic manner. 

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The Giblet | 2 years ago
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May be Kano at the top story should read this book, https://www.amazon.com.au/Roads-Were-Not-Built-Cars-ebook/dp/B00V7Z9FOO, and then demonstrate they have the ability to read.

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BBB | 2 years ago
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It seems that bigots in this country are running out of minorities to bash... 

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eburtthebike replied to BBB | 2 years ago
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BBB wrote:

It seems that bigots in this country are running out of minorities to bash... 

Indeed, and one of the few minorities left are..................cyclists.

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Rik Mayals unde... | 2 years ago
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The twonk at the top of the story is the funniest comment. If it wasn't for the motor car there wouldn't be any roads for cyclists to ride on. Hmmm. 

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eburtthebike replied to Rik Mayals underpants | 2 years ago
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biker phil wrote:

The twonk at the top of the story is the funniest comment. If it wasn't for the motor car there wouldn't be any roads for cyclists to ride on. Hmmm. 

Yup; roads were made for cyclists before anyone had even thought of a car.

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Balthazar | 2 years ago
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"Anyone got any theories about why riding two abreast winds up some motorists so much?"

They're scared of the girth. And didn't consider the length

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Captain Badger replied to Balthazar | 2 years ago
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Balthazar wrote:

"Anyone got any theories about why riding two abreast winds up some motorists so much?"

They're scared of the girth. And didn't consider the length

Oh very good sir, chapeau🎩🎩

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EddyBerckx | 2 years ago
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Dear road.cc - please don't publicise the twitter hate, it achieves nothing other than raising peoples blood pressure for zero benefit

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Compact Corned Beef | 2 years ago
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The irony of Fox popping off about 'fascists' on Room 101...

I mean, what happened? Did he just really like the word? Did he start saying it more and more, rolling it about in his mouth until it started just feeling right?

'Mmm, fascism... Fascism... Faaascismmmmm...'

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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I think that Sebastian Vettel's bike would look so much better if there were notches cut into the rims to give valve clearance...  3

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The _Kaner | 2 years ago
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Florence Lox - another jumped up Clarksonite.

Pity he doesn't put as many calories into his 'being an ACTORRRRR' like his father did....

and politics...man, he is on a different playing field with that shit...

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Sniffer replied to The _Kaner | 2 years ago
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With those views...... I think he might be the real life Nigel Garage that is currently on a sabatical from the forum.

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brooksby replied to The _Kaner | 2 years ago
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Gosh - he's a bit of a tw&t, isn't he?

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PRSboy replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

Gosh - he's a bit of a tw&t, isn't he?

I knew he was a bit of a tw&t, but I'd not realised he was quite such a world-class one.

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Eton Rifle replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

Gosh - he's a bit of a tw&t, isn't he?

Most, if not all of one, I'd say.

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PRSboy replied to The _Kaner | 2 years ago
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The _Kaner wrote:

Florence Lox - another jumped up Clarksonite.

Pity he doesn't put as many calories into his 'being an ACTORRRRR' like his father did....

and politics...man, he is on a different playing field with that shit...

At least with Clarkson, he generally says things for laughs (albeit not to everyone's taste!).  Fox actually means it.

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the little onion replied to PRSboy | 2 years ago
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PRSboy wrote:

The _Kaner wrote:

Florence Lox - another jumped up Clarksonite.

Pity he doesn't put as many calories into his 'being an ACTORRRRR' like his father did....

and politics...man, he is on a different playing field with that shit...

At least with Clarkson, he generally says things for laughs (albeit not to everyone's taste!).  Fox actually means it.

 

Does he not mean it? I'm with Stewart Lee on this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7CnMQ4L9Pc&t=110s

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to The _Kaner | 2 years ago
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I'm surprised his rant about a Sikh being shown in the film 1917 isn't included in that lot as well.

He is rightly shunned in the acting community, and he doesn't want to actually work for a living so he has taken the same route to "riches" as *Hatie Kopkins in being a rent a quote for right wing newspapers and organisations and then paid to appear in other tat off the back of it. 

* Sugar has a lot to answer for, but inflicting her into the public limelight is the worst. 

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Awavey | 2 years ago
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I think Seb has more than one bike as he's most often been photo'd in F1 paddocks on a flat bar custom single speed bike, which has a German flag decal on the frame, which he'd been riding at least the past 2 years.

But how come Valtteri Bottas doesnt get the same F1 driver cycling name check ? not only does he ride a bike regularly, he also has multiple bikes,rides with pro team riders, & often does laps on a bike at a circuit to get track knowledge, and has been known to turn up on Zwift as well.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Awavey | 2 years ago
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I thought Bottas has been previously in passing. I suspect if he was seen on Twitter riding into the race weekend like Vettel he would have been more prominent this week. Also I suspect as it was good publicity and the wording, Laverack decided to cash in on the publicity as well, hence the article above.

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philhubbard replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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Bottas is actually a very gifted rider like most of the F1 and Moto GP rider's that pick up a push bike.

He is also in a relationship with Tiffany Cromwell who is an incredible rider and whom I'm sure will be giving some tips on how to ride a bike well

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PRSboy replied to philhubbard | 2 years ago
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And of course Jenson Button, who's very handy on a road bike.

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eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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I'm amazed to see Cristo the Cretin raising his head over the parapet after the absolute pasting he got last time he tried to tell his granny how to suck eggs.

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brooksby replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

I'm amazed to see Cristo the Cretin raising his head over the parapet after the absolute pasting he got last time he tried to tell his granny how to suck eggs.

Are you allowed to even mention his name?

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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Haven't you noticed that Burt has now been banned from the Internet!

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eburtthebike replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Haven't you noticed that Burt has now been banned from the Internet!

Wishful thinking, just twitter.   Well, until they decide my appeal; seven months and counting.

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peted76 | 2 years ago
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Jason Kenny's interviews have been brilliant in these Olympics! 12 medals in the Kenny household.. what will they do when they retire I wonder. 

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Hirsute replied to peted76 | 2 years ago
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Train up Albie !

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Train up Albie !

Safely hopefully. Someone pointed out that they live close to Goostrey which is apparently a death trap for cyclists being irresponsible accroding to the Forum post. 

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