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Van driver intimidates female cyclist (credit: Sheffield North West NPT/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Van driver intimidates female cyclist… doesn’t realise she’s plain-clothes cop; Would this cyclist be fined for using the pavement?; Colbrelli needs “miracle” to race again; What does it take to ride 1000km in 24 hours?; COBBLES + more on the live blog

It’s Friday! We’re one step away from some glorious weekend riding weather. Skive off Friday work with Dan Alexander on the live blog and start planning those routes…
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Mar 25, 2022 09:09
52

SUMMARY

  • What does it take to ride 1000km in 24 hours?
  • Flanders dress rehearsal: E3 Saxo Bank Classic
  • Another record-breaking month — Santander Cycles celebrates six record breaking months in a row, with more than 750,000 hires in February
  • Magical memes
  • Would this cyclist be fined for using the pavement?
  • Sonny Colbrelli needs "another [miracle] to get back on the saddle"
  • Max Walscheid airlifted to hospital and "lucky to be alive" after collision involving driver in Germany — avoids serious injury
  • Surprise!
  • Changes to law regarding using phone while driving
  • Wout van Aert being Wout van Aert...
  • Van driver intimidates female cyclist... doesn't realise she's plain-clothes cop
  • How not to enjoy your birthday...
  • Wout van Aert being Wout van Aert II (ft. Christophe Laporte)
  • Wout van Aert wins E3 Saxo Bank Classic
  • Obligatory Jeremy Vine comment...
Van driver intimidates female cyclist (credit: Sheffield North West NPT/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
25 March 2022, 09:09

What does it take to ride 1000km in 24 hours?

1000km Christoph Strasser
1000km Christoph Strasser (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
1000km Christoph Strasser
1000km Christoph Strasser (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

What does it take to ride 1000km in 24 hours? Good legs. Case closed, thanks for reading…

Okay, there’s a bit more to it than that. Last July, Austrian ultracyclist Christoph Strasser rode 1,026.215km at an average speed of 42.75kph to smash the world record for greatest distance ridden by a cyclist in 24 hours.

The six-time Race Across America champ hit the record at the Zeltweg Air Base to beat the road record, he already holds the track record, in just 21 hours 6 minutes, before clocking an extra 26km, presumably just for fun?!

Strasser’s record was aided by the support of his INSCYD coach Markus Kinzlbauer, who has now broken down exactly what it took to perform such an outstanding athletic feat…

Speaking to the athletic performance software company, Kinzlbauer, who also won two Paralympic medals in handcycling during 2021, said the effort was highly dependent on nutrition. We all recognise when we haven’t eaten enough on a ride, the legs start to fade, the speed drops, until eventually you’re crawling home pedalling through mud.

Well, if you’re trying to ride for 24 hours, let alone at an average speed of 42kph, Strasser needed: “116g/h (grammes of carbs per hour) in the first 12h and a total of almost 105g/h in the 24h.”

“Such a performance is highly dependent on the energy demand and intake. We experimented with nutrition intake. We tried a lot with sugar mixtures. During the race, we fed 116g/h in the first 12h and a total of almost 105g/h in the 24h,” Kinzlbauer explained.

In total Strasser took on 13,450 calories, roughly five times the recommended daily intake for men.

“One of the puzzle pieces in the training prior to this historical benchmark was the INSCYD PPD test. We used the fat and carbohydrate combustion graph to calculate nutrition intake and pacing, and saw that the results were extremely reliable,” Kinzlbauer continued.

The crucial balance was making sure Strasser has enough energy to complete the distance without suffering digestive issues.

Stats: 24 hours, 1026km, 42.75kph, 272w average power, 136bpm heart rate.

1000km Christoph Strasser
1000km Christoph Strasser (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
1000km Christoph Strasser
1000km Christoph Strasser (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Check out Strasser’s mind-boggling Strava file here…

25 March 2022, 09:09

Flanders dress rehearsal: E3 Saxo Bank Classic

Sun is shining!☀️The cobbles are waiting #E3SaxobankClassic. C’mon @qst_alphavinyl!
📸@jeredgruber pic.twitter.com/cWpg5mCYBH

— RENSON (@RensonWorldwide) March 25, 2022

One of my favourite racing days of the year — E3 Saxo Bank Classic. The Flanders dress rehearsal: harder than Omloop — 204km, Kanarieberg, Taaienberg, Paterberg, Oude Kwaremont, Tiegemberg, plus many more of Flanders cobbled beasts. With Flanders next Sunday it’s time to find the form…

#E3SaxobankClassic 🇧🇪

We’re getting ready for one of the most challenging classics of the spring!

🚩 Harelbeke
🏁 Harelbeke
📏 203.9km
🕰 12h15-17h
📺 @sporza_koers (13h30) @eurosport (14h35) @tipikrtbf (14h20)

Preview 👉🏼 https://t.co/STjMbfZVp6 pic.twitter.com/imgG8V3t5Q

— Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert (@IntermarcheWG) March 25, 2022

Nine times in the past 22 years, the winner of E3 has gone on to win Flanders. Will we get a tenth this year?

On the startline: Kasper Asgreen, Wout van Aert, Zdeněk Štybar, Florian Sénéchal, Tiesj Benoot, Victor Campenaerts, Greg Van Avermaet, Oliver Naesen, Bob Jungels, Gianni Moscon, Matej Mohorič, Stefan Küng, Jhonatan Narvaez, Luke Rowe, Dylan van Baarle, Sep Vanmarcke, John Degenkolb, Søren Kragh Andersen, Jasper Stuyven, Mads Pedersen, Peter Sagan, Anthony Turgis…now that’s not bad, is it?

And, of course, it wouldn’t be E3 without Oli Naesen memes…

Tomorrow it’s time for greatness. @OliverNaesen will get his revenge and will destroy his rivals on the Tiegemberg. Here is the trailer for tomorrow’s #E3SaxoBankClassic pic.twitter.com/GaJOmmN4m7

— Cycling Memes (@Cycling_Memes1) March 24, 2022

25 March 2022, 09:09

Another record-breaking month — Santander Cycles celebrates six record breaking months in a row, with more than 750,000 hires in February

🚲🚲🚲Santander Cycles celebrates six record breaking months in a row, with more than 750,000 hires in February – the most hires ever. 🚲🚲🚲 pic.twitter.com/FlCgIxZG1f

— Will Norman (@willnorman) March 25, 2022

> E-bikes finally coming to London’s Santander Cycles hire fleet from next year 

25 March 2022, 09:09

Magical memes

Add this to the folder alongside Oli Naesen…

‘Yeah no it’s going to be tough for sure, but I do think Jumbo can do it this year. I’m just hoping they don’t ride defensively and really bring the fight to Tadej you know? Primoz can absolutely do it, he just has to stay on the bike and not crash’ pic.twitter.com/1SIey7OkWM

— janina (@jeanine______) March 24, 2022

25 March 2022, 09:09

Would this cyclist be fined for using the pavement?

Our big live blog story of the week was Wednesday’s video of a cyclist getting pulled over by police for using the pavement during a lane closure. Despite saying the manoeuvre was to let motorists pass during the extended roadworks, it “buttered no parsnips with this PC”.

General consensus in the live blog comments was that the optics of the situation probably didn’t help and, if the rider had waited for the temporary lights to turn green before waving traffic through as he moved onto the pavement, it probably would have been fine.

Well, there’s another video doing the rounds today, highlighting the other side of the badly-timed traffic lights/but not using the pavement coin…

Stick to the rules of the road to the letter and you might end up with this less-than-ideal predicament. You go through green, light turns red before you’re fully through, next light turns green, you’re now riding into oncoming traffic presumably with everyone and their dog shaking their heads at your ‘red light jumping’…

Presumably (we’re doing a lot of that this morning) our PC friend would have been alright with the cyclist hopping onto the footpath? That seems like common sense?

But maybe again we’re back to the optics of the incidents…not slowing down riding straight onto the pavement while the light is red vs faced with oncoming traffic having waited for the light to turn green…surely no PC with common sense would fine a cyclist for riding on the pavement here?

Either way, it goes to show an underlying problem cyclists often face with temporary lights and lane closures. Do you break ‘the rules’ to get out the way or don’t and struggle to make it through in time?

Anyway, who knows if any of that made sense to you reading it? Get in the comments with your thoughts…

25 March 2022, 09:09

Sonny Colbrelli needs "another [miracle] to get back on the saddle"

Sonny Colbrelli Merida Reacto Paris-Roubaix (Credit A.S.O._Pauline Ballet)-2
Sonny Colbrelli Merida Reacto Paris-Roubaix (Credit A.S.O (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Sonny Colbrelli Merida Reacto Paris-Roubaix (Credit A.S.O._Pauline Ballet)-2
Sonny Colbrelli Merida Reacto Paris-Roubaix (Credit A.S.O (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Sonny Colbrelli has commented for the first time since collapsing in the aftermath of the opening stage of Volta a Catalunya, having suffered an unstable cardiac arrhythmia. The Italian collapsed shortly after sprinting to second on the uphill kicker in Sant Feliu de Guíxols, and admits it is a “miracle” he is alive.

> Sonny Colbrelli in stable condition in hospital after collapsing at Volta a Catalunya finish

“It’s already a miracle that I’m alive, now it would take another to get me back on the saddle,” Colbrelli told Gazzetta dello Sport.

“We will evaluate day by day. There are so many people who love me.”

Bahrain Victorious released a statement on Thursday saying the team had “no further news” about the rider’s condition, saying he remains in hospital in Girona.

25 March 2022, 09:09

Max Walscheid airlifted to hospital and "lucky to be alive" after collision involving driver in Germany — avoids serious injury

 
 
 
 
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Cofidis rider Max Walscheid is being treated in intensive care in Germany after being hit by a driver while training. The 28-year-old says he is lucky to be alive after the incident, and luckily avoided serious injury.

Walscheid did not lose consciousness and has not suffered any broken bones.

“The first thing that comes to my mind is that I was incredibly lucky to survive this accident. Even though we haven’t done all the x-rays yet, I obviously don’t have any broken bones. I was just doing classic training after Brugge-De Panne. I was on a calm road, in perfect conditions.

“Fortunately, I was not advancing very quickly, on the side of the road. A car came from the opposite direction. She suddenly turned to the right, without blinking, rushed at me and hit me. I didn’t even have time to do anything, nor to be afraid before the accident happened.  

“So I was hit in the face. I jumped over the car and fell a few meters away, luckily in the ditch and not on the asphalt. My bicycle was completely destroyed, 10 meters away… People quickly came to help me, the ambulance and the police too. I was then transported to the hospital and admitted to the emergency services where they made a scan of my whole body. 

“Even though they didn’t detect anything broken, I had to spend the night under observation. We will continue the tests and examinations this Friday, in particular for my head and to check my breathing and my electrocardiogram.”

25 March 2022, 09:09

Surprise!

When your flight home gets cancelled twice last year, you miss your window for a break & your mum surprises you on the other side of the world 😍😍 So good for Mumma Edmo to get one up on @alexedmo ahead of his Classics campaign! #sogood #covidtings #surprise @GreenEDGEteam pic.twitter.com/MYjGzW4NWa

— Annette Edmondson (@NettieEdmo) March 25, 2022

25 March 2022, 09:09

Changes to law regarding using phone while driving

Driver using phone (via Warwickshire Police)
Driver using phone (via Warwickshire Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Driver using phone (via Warwickshire Police)
Driver using phone (via Warwickshire Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

From today the law has changed, expanding the meaning of ‘using’ a phone behind the wheel. Offending drivers will now get a £200 fine and six points for:

  • Illuminating the screen
  •  Checking the time
  • Checking notifications
  • Unlocking the device
  • Making, receiving, or rejecting a telephone or internet based call
  • Sending, receiving or uploading oral or written content
  • Sending, receiving or uploading a photo or video
  • Utilising camera, video, or sound recording,
  • Drafting any text
  • Accessing any stored data such as documents, books, audio files, photos, videos, films, playlists, notes or messages
  • Accessing an app
  • Accessing the internet
25 March 2022, 09:09

Wout van Aert being Wout van Aert...

Wout van Aert attack (GCN Eurosport)
Wout van Aert attack (GCN Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wout van Aert attack (GCN Eurosport)
Wout van Aert attack (GCN Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

80km to go? Wout’s bored…time to start racing…

25 March 2022, 09:09

Van driver intimidates female cyclist... doesn't realise she's plain-clothes cop

Some delicious karma for your Friday afternoon…

This van driver decided to try and intimidate a woman riding a bike on Tuesday in Doncaster by getting far too close, revving his engine and sounding his horn. She was a police officer on a cycling course. He didn’t believe us when we told him. I wonder if he does now.. pic.twitter.com/AdItf52RbX

— Sheffield North West NPT (@SheffNW_NPT) March 25, 2022

 Now it would be a real shame if this tough guy had his phone number and email address plastered all over his van, wouldn’t it? Sheffield North West said they were only too happy to instruct the driver’s employers on his attitude towards cyclists…Notice of Intended Prosecution in the post…

This is why we do cycling courses in plain clothes. Some people out there are bullies who shouldn’t be on the road. Remember people, if you choose to bully a vulnerable road user the chances they are a cop is increasing daily. The chances they have a camera too. You do the maths

— Sheffield North West NPT (@SheffNW_NPT) March 25, 2022

 The Sheffield North West Neighbourhood Team has done a detailed write up of the incident over on the Strava activity, including: “Having been briefed to take primary early and manage the approach to the pedestrian refuge things went well and the traffic had to slow and give space to the cyclists controlling the lane.

“All good. But there’s always one. One driver seeing a woman cycling in primary position who responds by getting too close, loudly revving the engine and sounding the horn.

“One driver who will be receiving an NIP [Notice of Intended Prosecution] through the post very soon. He should remember the incident as several rather annoyed cyclists approached his van and claimed to be police. But he left before we could badge him.

“Fortunately his van is fully sign written and now we know which company not to go for for roofing services. We will also be in touch with the phone number on the van and it won’t be to book a job.”

25 March 2022, 09:09

How not to enjoy your birthday...

Easily the worst Birthday I’ve ever had https://t.co/BxhuRtHIfJ

— Liam Cahill (@liamcahill1) March 25, 2022

25 March 2022, 09:09

Wout van Aert being Wout van Aert II (ft. Christophe Laporte)

Wout van Aert Christophe Laporte E3 (GCN Eurosport)
Wout van Aert Christophe Laporte E3 (GCN Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wout van Aert Christophe Laporte E3 (GCN Eurosport)
Wout van Aert Christophe Laporte E3 (GCN Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

It’s Paris-Nice all over again. There have been several splits and regroupings since we last checked in with the racing in Belgium, but the main facts are: Wout van Aert smashed his way up the Paterberg, taking teammate Christophe Laporte with him. The pair have been sharing the work since, in a two-up TT…

Their gap is over one minute, and the team’s biggest headache looks like deciding which rider gets the win…(sorry Jumbo-Visma if that jinxes it)…

Anyway, my money’s on Van Aert ‘letting’ Laporte have the win as a thank you for being an invaluable teammate. We’ll see…

Behind, Benoot is in the chasing group, who aren’t doing much chasing, including: Kasper Asgreen, Biniam Girmay, Matej Mohorič, Stefan Küng, Valentin Madouas, Jhonatan Narváez and Dylan van Baarle.

> road.cc Podcast: Matej Mohorič says he could have descended faster at Milan-San Remo if motorbikes weren’t in the way

25 March 2022, 09:09

Wout van Aert wins E3 Saxo Bank Classic

Wout van Aert Christophe Laporte E3 (GCN Eurosport)
Wout van Aert Christophe Laporte E3 (GCN Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wout van Aert Christophe Laporte E3 (GCN Eurosport)
Wout van Aert Christophe Laporte E3 (GCN Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

It’s another photo for the Jumbo-Visma scrapbook…

Wout van Aert crossed the line first, followed by Christophe Laporte. Behind, Stefan Küng’s late attack earned him a spot on the podium, while Eritrean Biniam Girmay sprinted to fourth on debut.

What a race. What a win… Can anyone stop Jumbo-Visma next Sunday?

25 March 2022, 09:09

Obligatory Jeremy Vine comment...

More of this please https://t.co/AW5nH55Lwy

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 25, 2022

And with that we’ll ride off into the sunset of another week on the live blog. Ryan’s back on duty for you next week, enjoy the sunshine! 

25 March 2022, 09:09

It wasn't just the dropper post: Matej Mohorič used "secret" wheel bearings and bigger disc rotors for Milan–San Remo win

It wasn't just the dropper post: Matej Mohorič used "secret" wheel bearings and bigger disc rotors for Milan–San Remo win

Mohorič also told the road.cc Podcast that he would have crashed on his death-defying descent of the Poggio if it wasn't for the modifications made to his Merida Scultura, that was prepped weeks in advance

25 March 2022, 09:09

Cyclist drowns after falling into ditch following reported seizure

Cyclist drowns after falling into ditch following reported seizure

48-year-old nurse Nicky Morrison died while on bike ride on North Uist

25 March 2022, 09:09

Naked cyclist “with erect member” spotted in woods in Greater Manchester

Naked cyclist “with erect member” spotted in woods in Greater Manchester

Priapic pedaller spotted at Hulme’s Wood in Denton has been reported to the police

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52 Comments

52 thoughts on “Van driver intimidates female cyclist… doesn’t realise she’s plain-clothes cop; Would this cyclist be fined for using the pavement?; Colbrelli needs “miracle” to race again; What does it take to ride 1000km in 24 hours?; COBBLES + more on the live blog”

  1. essexian
    March 25, 2022 at 12:22 pm
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    Surely…. a green light

    Surely…. a green light means: “GREEN means you may go on if the way is clear” (taken from: https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/light-signals-controlling-traffic.html ) Thus, the traffic should not have pulled into the lane which was not clear.

    The local plod should be issuing penalty notices to all of the drivers who broke the law….

    Yeah, yeah, I know….dream on. 

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    • bloodylazylayabout
      March 25, 2022 at 12:26 pm
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      The first couple of cars were

      The first couple of cars were already in the roadworks when they would have seen the cyclist, still be nice if they slowed a bit. No excuse for the van though, definitely should have stopped

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      • essexian
        March 25, 2022 at 12:29 pm
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        Ah…. I missed the fact it

        Ah…. I missed the fact it was a corner….. and they let me out alone!

        Agree with what you say. Perhaps Mr Plod would like to have a word with the van driver….

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  2. GMBasix
    March 25, 2022 at 12:29 pm
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    Bit of a difference between

    Bit of a difference between the video of the cyclist going straight up on the footway on a red light and the instagram video linked above.

    In the former, it’s an offence: mitigated by consideration of ministerial advice to chief officers to ignore otherwise considerate cycling when the cyclist rides on the footway out of fear of other traffic; but aggravated by the facts that the lights were on red and there was no sign of traffic of which to be afraid. That’s more than just optics: the imperative to go through is not there, but could be implemented to justify riding up on the kerb mid-roadworks later (on green) if necessary.

    Int he latter, the cyclist has done nothing wrong.  Most of the drivers haven’t either: they proceed on green woth nothing in view to consider otherwise. Once a cyclist comes into view, they should slow down:  and it’s arguable that they were mostly proceeding carefully in that regard.  However, the van driver proceeds into the roadworks when he sees a green light, and adopts the time-worn assumption that green = inalienable priority.  He should not have proceeded; and he drove unnecessarily close to/at our cyclist.

    The cyclist doesn;t have many strictly-legal options. But out of fear of that grunt, mounting the footway is definitely an option.  So is adopting the lane and playing chicken with the driver – but that assumes the driver is not actually out to kill, and it will definitely open up confrontation that will feel figuratively and perhaps literally like banging your head against a wall.

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  3. OnYerBike
    March 25, 2022 at 12:35 pm
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    The law on riding on the

    The law on riding on the pavement may be black and white, but one would hope that the police would be able to apply their discretion. Indeed, even in Wednesday’s video, I believe the outcome was a stern talking to and nothing more, and the “optics” are far more favourable here (cyclist went through on a green light; clear danger from the oncoming traffic, and the relevant bit of pavement is a bridge with no possibility of pedestrians suddenly stepping out, unlike a narrow and be-hedged residential street).

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  4. Daveyraveygravey
    March 25, 2022 at 1:02 pm
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    I’ve worried about temporary

    I’ve worried about temporary traffic lights turning green on me when in the middle of the works, but I don’t think it has actually ever happened.  They have sensors to detect movement, don’t they?

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    • Secret_squirrel
      March 25, 2022 at 2:04 pm
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      Not for ppl in the works no. 

      Not for ppl in the works no.  Some have sensors on the lights themselves to detect waiting vehicles.

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  5. JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
    March 25, 2022 at 1:03 pm
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    I have a theory that badly
    I have a theory that badly timed lights cause a significant proportion of ‘evidence’ for cycle haters.

    Oncoming traffic meet the cyclist head on and assume they jumped the lights because the motorist went through on green.

    Traffic behind cyclists who wait a phase to go at the front as soon as the lights turn assume the cyclists are selfish pricks who want to hold up traffic as opposed to not wanting to be flattened by oncoming traffic.

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  6. nniff
    March 25, 2022 at 1:20 pm
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    As far as traffic lights are

    As far as traffic lights are concerned, green means you may go on if the way is clear.  If you head off when something is coming the other way – due care and attention at least I would say

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    • brooksby
      March 25, 2022 at 2:33 pm
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      I was wondering about that

      I was wondering about that too.  It seems obvious, but (as has been said) the drivers of those oncoming vehicles would probably all just assume that the cyclist had jumped the lights and so it’s on them… 

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    • Flintshire Boy
      March 25, 2022 at 5:30 pm
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      Correct.

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      Green does not mean ‘go’.

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      It means ‘proceed if safe to do so’.

      .

      I a cyclist is still in the lane, coming towards you as your lights turn green, then clearly it is NOT safe to proceed!

      .

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  7. the little onion
    March 25, 2022 at 1:24 pm
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    There is a light near my

    There is a light near my house which I often go through when it is red: even though it is on a suburban B road, it has a sensor under the road, so it only turns green when it detects a large lump of metal waiting. Needless to say, it doesn’t detect my aluminium bikes, let alone my carbon bike. So I either wait an eternity for a car to come along and activate it, or I go through on red.

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    • TriTaxMan
      March 25, 2022 at 2:24 pm
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      There was a set of traffic

      There was a set of traffic lights that I had to deal with directly outside a police station in my old home town that were exactly the same.  They would never turn green for a bike, which was a bit of an issue when I was cycling to a 6am spin class with hardly another soul on the road at the time

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    • grumpyoldcyclist
      March 25, 2022 at 8:38 pm
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      I had this when commuting

      I had this when commuting into Chester at 6.30 am in the mornings. I found out that if you unclip one foot and lean the bike over at roughly 45 degrees, the sensors do a better job of detecting you.

      You’re welcome 

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      • Hirsute
        March 25, 2022 at 9:40 pm
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        Is that because you are now
        Is that because you are now flat on the ground ?

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  8. Rendel Harris
    March 25, 2022 at 1:45 pm
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    …not slowing down riding

    …not slowing down riding straight onto the pavement while the light is red vs faced with oncoming traffic having waited for the light to turn green…”

    Wait for the light to turn green then get on the pavement if necessary, if penalised one could produce the unrescinded Boateng guidance of 1999: “The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of the traffic, and who show consideration to other pavement users.” Once you’ve gone through the red (even if, as in Wednesday’s video, it doesn’t really make any substantive difference) then all bets in claiming mitigation are off. 

    There’s surely a case for pavements to become temporary shared use in any contraflow where the width and footfall makes it feasible?

     

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  9. NOtotheEU
    March 25, 2022 at 2:10 pm
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    This cyclist obviously did

    This cyclist obviously did nothing wrong.

    I believe the previous pavement user was using his e-bike on the throttle only as I didn’t see his legs moving (I’m guessing after looking at his shadow). Legally he was jumping a red light by riding the equivalent of a moped on the pavement so I think the Police were totally right in stopping him. He was also passing peoples homes, some of which had high hedges blocking his view, where a child could easily have run out in front of him. If he’d been pedalling slowly, showed caution, waited for the light to turn green and then glanced behind him to see if he was holding up traffic then I think the Police would have just continued on their way.

    While waiting at temporary lights in the past I’ve been asked multiple times by motorists and pedestrians why don’t I just ride up the pavement. I just reply I expect motorists to follow the rules so I do too. I have also got off and walked up the pavement at times if I know the lights have a really long delay.

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    • HarrogateSpa
      March 25, 2022 at 4:15 pm
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      YEStotheEU.

      YEStotheEU.

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      • brooksby
        March 25, 2022 at 4:32 pm
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        Did you see that photo of

        Did you see that photo of Johnson looking a bit lost at the NATO meeting t’other day?  Showing how important the UK is in the world now… yes  

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        • Flintshire Boy
          March 25, 2022 at 5:27 pm
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          What a wally you are!

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          Children ignoring our PM, so that ‘proves’ that UK has lost importance.

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          Yes, sure, right – I see your impeccable logic.

          .

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          • brooksby
            March 25, 2022 at 5:44 pm
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            Flintshire Boy wrote:

            What a wally you are!

            Children ignoring our PM, so that ‘proves’ that UK has lost importance.

            Yes, sure, right – I see your impeccable logic.

            — Flintshire Boy

            Didn’t say it proved it.  Just thought it kind of demonstrated how well thought of we are.  We’re no longer being called “Plague Island”, so I guess that’s something, but Johnson (and you, it appears) needs to remember that we are no longer in the Premier League of Nations and we need to act (and expect to be treated) accordingly.

          • Rich_cb
            March 25, 2022 at 6:22 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            we are no longer in the Premier League of Nations

            — brooksby

            Would be interested to know what metric you used to reach that conclusion?

          • eburtthebike
            March 26, 2022 at 12:44 am
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            Flintshire Boy wrote:

            What a wally you are!.

            Children ignoring our PM, so that ‘proves’ that UK has lost importance..

            Yes, sure, right – I see your impeccable logic..— Flintshire Boy

          • Rendel Harris
            March 26, 2022 at 10:26 am
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            Flintshire Boy wrote:

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            What a wally you are!

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            — Flintshire Boy

          • Flintshire Boy
            March 26, 2022 at 10:29 am
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            LOL! Wally is as Wally does, Trendy.

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            And we were getting on so well this year.

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            Oh dear, never mind.

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      • Flintshire Boy
        March 25, 2022 at 5:25 pm
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        Nah. No to you, no to EU.

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        It’s gone. Get over it. It’s only been – what – six years or so.

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      • No Reply
        March 25, 2022 at 5:40 pm
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        That ship has sailed sonny.

        That ship has sailed sonny.

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  10. TriTaxMan
    March 25, 2022 at 2:28 pm
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    Those roadworks are a prime

    Those roadworks are a prime example of why active travel is never thought about in temporary traffic lights.

    The only reason there wasn’t a bigger issue was the fact that in the initial stretch of roadworks the lane was wide enough for the vehicles behind the cyclist to pass.  In a similar set of roadworks, where the traffic lane was narrower meaning vehicles following the bike could not pass and a vehicle behind the cyclist also turned left it would have been chaotic at best.

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  11. bobbinogs
    March 25, 2022 at 3:33 pm
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    mmm, let’s think.  Police

    Ref: Van driver intimidates female cyclist

    mmm, let’s think.  Police taking a very different stance on investigating/prosecuting an offence committed against a serving officer when compared to an average cyclist…no, can’t see that happening ever.  oh, wait…

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  12. open_roads
    March 25, 2022 at 3:48 pm
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    Interesting to see that when

    Interesting to see that when a driver intimidates one of their own colleagues there’s no shortage of resources / delay to reviewing video evidence / “sorry our process only allows us to send a warning letter” / “sorry the cps have tied our hands” / “sorry you can’t know the progress because you’re not a victim” / “sorry the officer was in sick leave” etc etc.

    It’s almost as if they have one rule for themselves and a different one for everyone else who receives abuse whilst cycling.

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    • Sriracha
      March 25, 2022 at 5:25 pm
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      Yes, it is interesting to see
      Yes, it is interesting to see that, by going plain clothes, the officer got to experience how cyclists are treated by motorists – and yet failed to follow through to experience how they are treated by the police. Odd logic.

      Why not submit the report incognito to get the full experience?

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      • stonojnr
        March 25, 2022 at 5:34 pm
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        Unless someone has experience
        Unless someone has experience they can post of the Sheffield North West Neighbourhood Team treating their close pass video submissions with indifference, then its irrelevant, not all police forces,teams or individuals are the same.

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        • Sriracha
          March 25, 2022 at 5:58 pm
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          All I suggested is that the
          Why wait – most organisations mystery shop themselves. This situation seemed like an ideal opportunity.

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          • stonojnr
            March 25, 2022 at 8:34 pm
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            The point is you can’t use
            The point is you can’t use your or even my experience of our local police force reactions to close pass submissions and judge them by how this was treated, because they just aren’t the same people.

    • Inspector Kevin Smith SYP
      March 25, 2022 at 6:34 pm
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      I mean other than the fact

      I mean other than the fact that I can point to literally dozens of times I’ve personally prosecuted people for exactly this when it has happened to other local cyclists what evidence is there?

      I appreciate the cynicism, but you might want to think about if you can find a more pro cycling outfit than the one I run.

      First team to do a close pass operation involving a group of cyclists worldwide

      first team to try and keep up with a patalympian cycling commissioner and use her to publicise close passes

      Going out across the police force to train officers across force about how to cycle, the benefits of cycling operationally and what it feels like to be a vulnerable road user

      personally intervening when people experience close passes that have been mishandled 

      worked to introduce Nextbase portal

      attending active travel meetings on behalf of the force to improve road safety measures  

      provided training on how to deal with cycling footage 

      working with local universities to do research on close passes and driver behaviour 

       

      But yeah, we don’t really care about cyclists do we ?  /glib mode off  

      Also I didn’t need to mystery shop our portal because I did that last week. And I have to say, they were pretty good. Or much better than we used to be for damn sure. 
       

       

       

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      • Seventyone
        March 25, 2022 at 6:43 pm
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        Thanks for responding. It is
        Thanks for responding. It is great to have your input, and clearly your team is doing a good job.

        Hopefully, if you have seen some of the other stories on road.cc especially (but not only) nmotd, you understand why people might be cynical having seen the response of other forces to similar or worse incidents.

        Please could you do everything in your power to make the police response to these incidents more uniform? Wjts would like you to start with Lancashire police I would guess. I know they are the wrong side of the Pennines though…

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      • stomec
        March 25, 2022 at 8:34 pm
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        Hi as a Sheffield resident

        Hi as a Sheffield resident please can I say thank you for your thoughtful posts, and indeed for engaging on a cycling forum. 
         

        Generally I think the standard of driving with respect to cyclists is fairly high in Sheffield at peak commuting times, although the infrastructure is appalling. Please continue to engage with cycling groups and do all you can to improve active travel generally. 
         

        P.S. if you can have a word about formally opening Snake Pass that would be fab…

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      • open_roads
        March 26, 2022 at 8:01 am
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        Sounds like you’ve really

        Sounds like you’ve really been doing a terrific job – so a genuine thanks for your efforts.

        Having said that, your efforts do seem to be an outlier – road.cc reports almost every day on the police inaction / obfuscation and in some cases outright lies in relation to their apparent reluctance to police the roads.

        I can imagine this is very frustrating to other officers  / forces that are doing the “right” thing but the fact remains it’s more often than not the typical experience.

        In my case having received a crazy stupid close pass (at speed) from a Police van, I landed up feeling I was about to be arrested when I **very** politely asked the driver to be considerate when I caught up with him a bit later on my journey. I’ve also reported a number of drivers for phone use (including one having a full on argument by FaceTime video) but in every case the police (Met Police) confirmed they took no action despite me making good quality video available.

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  13. brooksby
    March 25, 2022 at 3:50 pm
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    Sheffield North West

    Sheffield North West Neighbourhood Team laugh laugh 

     

    (now try doing all that when it is not a plain-clothed police officer…)

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  14. Velo-drone
    March 25, 2022 at 4:34 pm
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    If only it were just
    If only it were just temporary traffic lights where this was an issue.

    I give you Longnor, Staffordshire

    https://youtu.be/6d-USSeTXw4

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    • Sriracha
      March 25, 2022 at 5:36 pm
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      It’s too bad that the clip
      It’s too bad that the clip shows the cyclists going through on red, because of course that gives a green light to all the irrelevant comments missing the point of the clip, successfully sabotaging the the comments section.

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      • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
        March 25, 2022 at 6:31 pm
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        Sriracha wrote:

        It’s too bad that the clip shows the cyclists going through on red, because of course that gives a green light to all the irrelevant comments missing the point of the clip, successfully sabotaging the the comments section.

        — Sriracha

        See, I’d have gone for a humorous ‘well the car driver was right, they did go through a red’. Given it was on (at least) the third phase by the top, it kinda misses the point.

        Generally no time for RLJ, but where it’s impossible, fuck it.

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  15. IanMSpencer
    March 25, 2022 at 4:39 pm
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    Will the new mobile phone
    Will the new mobile phone rules be applied to members of the building trade as enthusiastically as previously (i.e. not at all).

    Nearly had the nose taken off my car at a roundabout by a builder who didn’t give way, and he took offence at my legitimate sounding of horn to alert him to my presence. As he hadn’t seen me he told me I was obviously driving too fast, even though I’d managed to stop in time as I had a clear view of him ear glued to phone not looking in my direction.

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    • Velo-drone
      March 25, 2022 at 5:37 pm
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      Just saw a transporter lorry
      Just saw a transporter lorry driver thundering down my road with phone to ear. Sadly was carrying half a bed at the time otherwise would have tried to get vid ..

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  16. SNS1938
    March 25, 2022 at 11:35 pm
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    Interesting the new phone

    Interesting the new phone rules.

    I’d been considering just putting the phone in the boot when I get into a car anyway, so that might be the best bet to be able to prove that I didnt touch the phone. I’ve got wireless Apple CarPlay, so I make calls and dictate text messages etc from the front anyway. 

    I’m glad the rules are being tightened, don’t get me wrong, but do not want to get fined because I touched the phone and it lit up.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      March 26, 2022 at 12:37 am
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      Alternately put the phone in

      Alternately put the phone in the boot AND turn it off / airplane mode so you don’t distract yourself on calls / dictating text messages whilst driving. Yes the government state it is legal, but check the science on distractions uing phones and hands free can be just as bad.

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    • open_roads
      March 26, 2022 at 7:53 am
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      Making calls and dictating

      Making calls and dictating text messages still means you’re distracted and a risk to yourself / other road users.

      Unless you’re in a genuine life or death type career (international spy, world statesman) whatever it is can wait until you’ve pulled over.

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    • OldRidgeback
      April 1, 2022 at 3:47 am
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      All the research shows the

      All the research shows the distraction from phone use at the wheel is mental and not physical. The TRL has done a lot of research on the topic. Basically, you’re kidding yourself if you think these hands free tools are actually any safer than using the phone. Again, research says they aren’t.

      Research also says that a driver having a conversation with someone in the vehicle is different to having a conversation on the phone, hands free or not. When a driver talking to a vehicle occupant has to think about something happening on the road, they’ll prioritise the driving function and pause speaking. But with a phone, the opposite is true. 

      Seriously, ditch these hands free kits. It’s only a matter of time before they’re banned anyway.

      Just because they’re legal, it doesn’t mean they’re safe. They aren’t. Read the research and then bin your ApplePlay.

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  17. Hirsute
    March 26, 2022 at 10:10 am
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    Says here crippled biker has
    Says here crippled biker has died.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Doug_Paulley/status/1507475149687336961
    Slightly different name on twitter but the same person as he confirmed this on here recently.
    He was great knowing the legislation and advising people. Loved reading his comments.

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    • hawkinspeter
      March 26, 2022 at 10:18 am
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      hirsute wrote:

      Says here crippled biker has died.
      https://mobile.twitter.com/Doug_Paulley/status/1507475149687336961
      Slightly different name on twitter but the same person as he confirmed this on here recently.
      He was great knowing the legislation and advising people. Loved reading his comments.

      — hirsute

      So sorry to hear that.

      He enriched any discussion he was part of.

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      • Hirsute
        March 26, 2022 at 10:26 am
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        This is the last thread he

        This is the last thread he posted in

        https://road.cc/content/news/longleat-security-tell-cyclist-no-bikes-allowed-291091

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        • Rendel Harris
          March 26, 2022 at 10:31 am
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          Very sad indeed. His last

          Very sad indeed. His last posts show his typical mixture of great in-depth knowledge of the law and robust good humour. RIP.

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Daclu Trelub 6 hours ago

I'm glad I had my trousers on. If I hadn't I might have been arrested.

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perce 8 hours ago

Who was responsible for organising the prizes on Bullseye? Tonight's star prize was a luxury fitted kitchen. How are you supposed to split that between two contestants? Absolutely ridiculous.

in: “If I hadn’t had it on, maybe I wouldn’t be here today”: Zoe Bäckstedt recalls horror crash which smashed helmet “into so many pieces”
swagman 10 hours ago

Oh sir! sir! Johnnys riding his bike without a helmet, he’s going to die when he falls off!, Yes what a silly boy he is ! Anyway jump in the car we’re going to be late for school and I hope no one gets in my way especially bleeding cyclists!! I wonder if AI will see what fools we are..

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ktache 11 hours ago

It's more about the nomex suit, car helmet and five point harnesses (with HANS), but "reply" ain't what it used to be...

in: “If I hadn’t had it on, maybe I wouldn’t be here today”: Zoe Bäckstedt recalls horror crash which smashed helmet “into so many pieces”
Miller 11 hours ago

'Gotten' ? The word is 'become', as in, I have become sick of seeing 'gotten'.

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Rendel Harris 11 hours ago

OK, all the stuff I said elsewhere on this thread in defence of helmets, I take it all back. I'd sooner be seen as an anti-lidder than be associated with that heap of steaming ordure.

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ceppm 11 hours ago

Exactly my thoughts. A real shame, they're amazing bikes, same as Islabikes. Really sad to hear the news. Having said that, we probably didn't do enough to help them. My son had one Islabike and two Frogs, all second hand that we resold for about the same amount.

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Rendel Harris 12 hours ago

I couldn't agree more, and when we have all that everywhere I might think about leaving off the helmet, but until then if I have to share the road with huge fast-moving chunks of metal, many of them piloted by persons of limited intelligence and even less self control, I'm going to keep the lid, which even Burt agrees can "probably" offer some protection from injury.

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eburtthebike 12 hours ago

And the irony is that helmet promotion and mandation kills lots of people and they don't reduce the death rate of cyclists. The benefits of cycling vastly outweigh the risks, and helmet promotion and mandation deter cycling (the only proven effect) so those deterred lose those benefits and die earlier.

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Justblewbyyou 12 hours ago

I see Mont Pythons upper class twits have been replaced by male anti helmet twits who probably ride under 10000 km/year while wearing bike gloves, ladies bib capris, power meters to register the watts they dont produce ,gps because they are easily lost on a tiny island, a mobile phone to call the wifey in case the ride gets too hilly or wet or fast or windy, all while complaining their tushy hurts. They always ask for proof..you could crash a few times on purpose without and with a helmet and send us the pictures. Do pros complain about helmets?..if you rode in a country with sun you would know that styrofoam actually keeps your head cool.. Ps ice hockey players say they dont need mouthguards..ask them to smile

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