Ye Olde Watte Byke? Antique 19th century stationary bike appears on Facebook Marketplace for £480; “Sometimes I wonder how we achieve these levels of stupidity”: Baffling Facebook photo of Trek bike built ‘upside down’ + more on the live blog
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"Sometimes I wonder how we achieve these levels of stupidity": Baffling Facebook photo of Trek bike built 'upside down' amuses cyclists
I present to you for your entertainment and fascination… the upsidedownhill mountain bike, a new frontier for cycling…
Deary me. Once your brain works it out it’s obvious there was simply just “a fork in the decision-making process”, as one bemused commented suggested on Facebook where this image has been doing the rounds on various cycling pages. No, we’ll stop you there before you say anything about it being a Tour Down Under edition, or the work of a certain retailer, the comments over on Facebook have already done it. Very extensively.
There’s part of us that really hopes this was just some mischievous mechanic at a loose end looking to mess with the sort of people, like us, who sit and see these things on the internet. That must be the optimistic side of my brain, really hoping beyond belief that this wasn’t actually the result of anything other than a joke, or asking an AI image generator to mess with cyclists.
We’re not volunteering, but we’d love (for research purposes) to see how/if it rides, maybe perched precariously near the front of the downtube and pedalling somewhere behind your back. Okay, maybe best we don’t try that one. Of the non-Australia-related or *insert retailer here* gags in the comments, here’s a few people trying to work it all out.
“Well, that’s fork’d.”
“I had a little trouble with the instructions, they only came in a language I couldn’t read…”
“Something is wrong… can’t put my finger on it.”
“Forget ‘don’t drink and drive’… don’t drink and assemble.”
“That ain’t no bike, that’s an ekib.”
“That’s a plum cutter model.”
Now the silliness is out the way, any volunteers to try this at home and see what happens? Maybe we should send Jamie to the track to give all the YouTube subs a laugh?
Questions asked of UCI's yellow card system after more sprint controversy at Tour Down Under
Another day, yet more sprint controversy and the UCI’s yellow card system again facing questions in Australia. On Wednesday, we saw Danny van Poppel handed a yellow card for his dangerous sprinting in setting up teammate Sam Welsford’s victory. As per the rules, made permanent for 2025, if Van Poppel receives another yellow card during the Tour Down Under, he’ll be disqualified from the race and receive a seven-day suspension. Meanwhile, three yellow cards over a 30-day period will lead to a two-week ban, and six over the course of a season will result in a month-long suspension.
It was to that context that today’s sprint unfolded, Bryan Coquard taking the win for Cofidis.
🇫🇷 He got his maiden WT win last year here in Australia, @bryancoquard (COF) goes for the back to back with a very close win today ahead of 🇩🇪 @PhilBauhaus
📺 Stream the race now on 7plus:https://t.co/k2Exq3FDwl
Hahn | @santosltd#TourDownUnder #CouchPeloton pic.twitter.com/lF4K3UEEXQ
— Santos Tour Down Under 🚴🚴♀️ (@tourdownunder) January 24, 2025
Laurence Pithie finished fourth but was relegated to 72nd for his sprint (seen in the clip above when he almost pushes Alpecin-Deceuninck’s Henri Uhlig into the barriers. Pithie did not, however, get a yellow card, only a hefty 500 Swiss franc (£446) fine and some points deductions, along with the relegation. Should the Frenchman have received a yellow card? Is the UCI being consistent? We’ll have more on this as the reaction rolls in.
"It is not the case that we look to fight this decision": UAE Team Emirates accept jury's decision over Tour Down Under sprint
Elsewhere in the drama of the sprint, Jhonatan Narváez was left frustrated in third place after feeling he was blocked off by an incident separate to the one that saw Laurence Pithie relegated. The Ecuadorian picked up four bonus seconds for his efforts but was, in the words of his team, “inadvertently blocked off” as stage winner Bryan Coquard and second-place Phil Bauhaus jostled for position and the shortest line.
The team has graciously admitted “the move was legal”, just frustrating for their rider who believed he had the momentum to win the sprint. Narváez had raised his arm in protest after the finish, but team sports director Fabio Baldato accepted the result soon after.
“With the finish turning to the right, it is normal that the rider in front tried to take the shorter line,” he said. “I have spoken to the jury and the president two or three times, and I trust them in the end. They are expert guys who I know well and it is not the case that we look to fight this decision.”
Bryan Coquard emerged late into Stage 5 to take his first win of 2025 at the Tour Down Under 👏 pic.twitter.com/3GRShzcLUn
— Eurosport (@eurosport) January 24, 2025
Narváez too was ultimately content with his day’s work, the four bonus seconds taking him to four seconds behind current race leader and stage four hero Javier Romo.
"Mickey Mouse" wiggly cycle lane branded "Balamory from hell" set to be removed next month – to be replaced by loading bays, car parking, and vehicle access
London hire bike provider Forest set to introduce first e-bikes with child seats (+ ones with passenger seat)
The Evening Standard has published some big London cycle scheme news this morning, the newspaper reporting that Human Forest, one of the main players in the bike hire game, is to roll out bikes with child’s seats, and others with a second seat for a passenger.
Earlier this week the shared bike operator reported it had secured £13m in new funding, investment that will boost the brand’s fleet and support technology for “sustainable and responsible growth.
“Backed by this new financing, Forest will contribute significantly to widening access to shared schemes and reducing car dependency by launching ForestCargo, ForestDuo and ForestKid. With these new vehicle types, the company is aiming to achieve gender parity among its riders by 2027,” a press release stated, noting a move into the cargo bike sector too.
No amount of chamois cream is going to save Valtteri Bottas
Rohan Dennis formally pleads guilty to charge in relation to the death of Melissa Hoskins
Nine News was at SA District Court for the guilty plea arraignment of Rohan Dennis, in relation to his charge of one aggravated count of creating likelihood of harm in relation to the death of Melissa Hoskins.
In December, Dennis appeared in court to answer charges of dangerous driving causing death and an aggravated charge of driving without due care, charges which were dropped and replaced with the new one.
The offence carries a maximum sentence of seven years in jail and a five-year loss of driver’s licence, judge Ian Press today adjourning proceedings until April 14, when sentencing submissions and victim impact statements will be heard.
Cycling campaign hopes to tackle bike theft with new partnership
York Cycling Campaign has set up a partnership to tackle bike theft in the city, bringing together North Yorkshire Police, British Transport Police, the city’s council and local bike shops.
Leah Bennett from the campaign told The Press: “We aim to develop a plan that can be implemented quickly within existing budgets, helping to deter thefts through a combination of raising awareness of how to keep your bike safe, improved detection and better prevention.
“We have already had the backing of Jo Coles — York and North Yorkshire deputy mayor for policing, fire and crime, and we plan to work with her and local authorities as well as police, local business and community organisations.”
The campaign has already run ‘pop-up supervised cycle parking’ events in York city centre, notably around the Christmas Market, with members keeping lookout at designated bike parking spots. Further events are scheduled for Saturday and Sunday at the Minister Refectory between 10am and 5pm, the campaign hoping it will deter theft and give cyclist confidence to leave their bikes.
The news comes at the end of a week when the British Transport Police admitted that bike thefts are “unlikely to ever be solved”, those comments coming after a spoof sign at one West Sussex station renamed the bike parking facility a “Bicycle Redistribution Point”.
Controversial cycle lane 'opposed' by David Attenborough to go ahead after extremely narrow vote – as council says trees at centre of heated row are only being felled as "last resort"
Lachlan Morton doesn't care for your rounding-up needs
Valtteri Bottas’s budgie smugglers were worn on the warm-up event for RADL GRVL (which is of course legally obliged to be spelt that way due to it being a gravel race). When it came to the real thing we have it on good authority (his Strava pics) that the kit was all back on and the smugglers back in the draw at home. Another famous face on the start line was Lachlan Morton, whose decision to end his ride on 99.83km wound up a few of his Strava followers.
“Mate, 200 more metres”
“Didn’t feel the need to round up?”
Sorry chaps, don’t think he cares about ticking off 100km rides any more… clocking 500km days in a record-breaking trip around Australia will do that for you.
Campagnolo debuts "unprecedented double-height profile" on updated Shamal wheels, now complete with on-trend wavy profile
"Maybe try the same route tomorrow morning when it's raining and 1°C"... okay, maybe we will…
Cycling in London couldn’t wait to get back to this comment about nobody cycling when it’s cold and raining, the scenes the following morning?
Here we go, Marcus!
Decent turnout of morning cycle commuters I’d say? https://t.co/tnkZ9D6pyt pic.twitter.com/RYgYqq5NVL
— Cycling in London (@Cycling_In_LDN) January 22, 2025
On a similar note, over on Bluesky, Utrecht-based cyclist De Filmende Fietser shared a video of business as usual on the cycling front over there. We’d share the video but Bluesky doesn’t seem to want to play ball, so here’s the link and some pics instead.
“The past few weeks have been cold and dark with limited visibility due to persistent fog, but that doesn’t stop Dutch people from cycling,” they explain. “The key? Good, safe and attractive infrastructure which prioritises cycling over driving.”
More fallout to British Cycling's cyclocross selection controversy
The reaction to British Cycling’s selection for cyclocross worlds next week is rumbling on.
road.cc contributor Matt Page added to the discussion in the comments yesterday: “This isn’t just about the rider’s sex; it is a problem across the board with British Cycling and specifically in off-road disciplines.
“British champions should have an automatic right to represent their country. Perhaps some criteria can be put in place regarding funding, but if a rider can self-fund the trip, they should be able to race. For the road World Champs you can guarantee that a full roster of riders will be sent, when the chances of winning a medal are usually slim.
“It doesn’t send a good message to the younger riders who are training and racing hard to know they probably won’t go to a World Championship even if they are the best in the country.”
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Ye Olde Watte Byke? Antique 19th century stationary bike appears on Facebook Marketplace for $600
You can keep your Zwift, smart trainers and the rest of it. Facebook Marketplace has delivered the goods and for $600 you can bin all that new 21st century tech and train like a Victorian instead.
The listing from near Pasadena in California, amusingly states it’s in “used – good” condition. It apparently dates to the late 19th century (1890s) and is a heavy-duty cast iron bike that “moves well and functions as should be”. “A great addition to any antique exercise equipment collection, gym, or unique oddity for your home,” the listing perhaps somewhat optimistically concludes.
“Made by the Narrangansett company of Providence Rhode Island, the seat and handlebars are adjustable for the size of the rider. The leather strap has come off and would need replacing to cause resistance. One of the original pedals is also missing. Bike measures 26″ wide by 36″ deep by 41″ tall.”
It could be yours for $600 (and whatever it costs to get it to where you live from California). Tempted?
24 January 2025, 09:01
24 January 2025, 09:01
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Re The Skoda Peaq/Peak District news Evidently I was wrong. *insert facepalm emoji* ("So Skoda have taken a leaf out of Dung-Old Karen Taco Trump’s book and are re-naming something when they have no authority to do so?") https://road.cc/news/cycling-live-blog-21-july-2026
@Pub bike it's almost as if the engineers got so wound up putting the internal cables through the head tube that they couldn't be arsed beyond that.
Because what's going on here is definitely not cricket!
"carefully/slowly weaving through some cars ...... and while trying to squeeze through the last bit" Maybe its just me but maybe these are the lines that start off the driver on the irrational road rage, Yes we are allowed to filter through traffic but sometimes a bit of patience is required too. If you are ending up so close that you are making contact with someone else's property then maybe just hold back a little until there is space. I am not attempting to justify or suggest that the response was proportionate but lets be honest the chances are that the OP may have played down thier own actions that triggered the nutter.
The 15.5mph (25kph) limit is stupid? What's stupid is charging down mixed use paths on an untested, illegal e-moto at 40 mph. Which is what these wastes of organs do.
@kyzyl2 I'm extremely sceptical that this app could measure power with any accuracy, but as far as I understand it is not the case that it completely ignores windspeed; as the inventor says, it uses weather as one of the variables. Presumably it takes real-time wind speed and direction from nearby weather stations and factors that into its calculations. Of course this may be wildly inaccurate if you're climbing up a bare hillside and the nearest weather station is in a sheltered valley half a mile away, but it does make some attempt to account for wind speed and direction.
@Rendel Harris we used to rent an allotment in a village near Basel and there was an annual autumn party/festival organised by the gardeners. One year as we were about to leave we went to ride our (unlocked - never a need here) bikes and my wife’s was missing. Our allotment neighbours were outraged and were getting ready to get the police in when… up the road rides a gentleman on my wife’s bike, weaving around in a drunken manner.. He gets back and receives the wrath of our neighbour (not us we were in giggles) and he explains that he had to go home to feed his cat and just needed to borrow a bike!
The physics principle exploited is that opposing forces equal applied forces. Conventional power meters measure applied forces--very well but admittedly not cheaply. This app appears to measure acceleration and slope to determine two of four important opposing forces. Notice something missing? Wind...the dominant opposing force when riding on the flats or in a pack. This app assumes that wind speed equals bike speed in order to "guess" the critical opposing wind force it does not measure. If you always ride solo and never ride when the wind blows maybe this app will work OK for you. Otherwise you are wasting your money. There is no such thing as free power.
Not gonna lie, when I saw the name LAP I thought 'Here we go again, yet another pretentious brand like MAAP, PNS, ASOS and Rapha that wants to grab a piece of the 'bragging rights' cycling category. But, to my surprise, what they bring to the table seems pretty well considered. Let's see if this idea gets some traction.
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TDU: Pithie balked Bauhaus,
TDU: Pithie balked two riders barrier-side, then veered left across the road. Yellow card. Coquard had the excuse of a finish bending right, so his sprint is legit.
The clip above is pretty
The clip above is pretty useless, though – starts too late to see what’s going on – the one in the later (Narváez) post is much better.
Surely that Trek MTB was put
Surely that Trek MTB was put together that way as a joke. Nobody’s that stupid. Are they?
“A common mistake that people
“A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.”
― Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless
“The Conservatives want to
“The Conservatives want to bring pedestrian crossings into the culture wars now? Apparently supporting pedestrian crossings is now “woke”. “
Hirsute wrote:
Yet again they don’t seem to have grasped the very simple concept of “woke”: awareness of systemic social inequalities especially those involving race, gender and sexual preferences.
I like this post on the topic: https://bsky.app/profile/deezed.bsky.social/post/3lggdvteaac27
Supporting zebra crossings is surely a black and white issue ?
¿¿¿How is it possible to get
¿¿¿How is it possible to get the rear triangle in upside down??? Some people are just plane stupid.
“Something is wrong… can’t
“Something is wrong… can’t put my finger on it. Or my arse.”
I don’t see a problem
I don’t see a problem personally. It’s just set up for someone who wants to wheelie everywhere.
Looks to me like it’s just
Looks to me like it’s just set up for Graeme Obree.
don simon fbpe wrote:
The rear triangle is fine, the forks, however, are upside down.
eburtthebike wrote:
Nonsense. The forks and bars are OK, but everything else has been put on upside down.
I think the frame is fine but
I think the frame is fine but they just need to rotate the wheels slightly.
This is obviously why tapered
This is obviously why tapered headsets were invented – to prevent bikes being assembled like this. The obvious(!) problem with this bike is that the rebound rate will be wrong with the shocker operating the opposite way around, assuming the ride can actually set off without castrating themselves.
Good point – the industry
Good point – the industry should be pushing those hard as “safety headsets” e.g. “our AI-designed advanced safety headsets will prevent Halfords * assembling death traps like this – which have the potential to injure or even kill thousands every year!”
* Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Do a back flip, and suddenly
Do a back flip, and suddenly everything will become clear
don simon fbpe wrote:
I think you’ve illustrated your point there – the plane was maintained but the symmetry was enhanced. ??
don simon fbpe wrote:
They haven’t, see picture of Jolanda Neff with her similar XC bike. Everything’s the right way up except the forks.
I think you sit your bum
I think you sit your bum cheeks on the “handle bars”, steer with your arse, pedal with your hands, and rest your feet on the undercarriage. Develops core strength. It’s rear-wheel steering, obviously.
Helps keep an eye out for
Helps keep an eye out for close passes I guess?
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My work here is done…
My work here is done…
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Imagine if cars could only be parked where there was someone who was willing to stand there and keep an eye on them…
brooksby wrote:
I heard that’s exactly how it was in parts of Glasgow a while back… if a kid said “hey big man, watch your car for you?” you might consider it. Apparently cars not being watched suffered a high spontaneous “accident” rate.
Halfords proudly delivers
[certain retailer] proudly delivers another bike
Hammersmith Bridge ‘could
Hammersmith Bridge ‘could stay closed until 2035’
“Hammersmith Bridge could stay closed to vehicles for another decade…”
Presumably they mean motor vehicles, as I assume pedestrians and cyclists are still able to cross?
Tell us that motorists (yes, I have a licence too) don’t pay enough “road tax” to cover the damage done by our use of large heavy vehicles.
Without telling us.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceve0je90e0o
mitsky wrote:
Currently open to pedestrians only. Cyclists have to dismount, revert to being pedestrians and wheel their bikes across the bridge. About half of the roadway looks finished and the workers seem to me making reasonable progress relaying so it may open to mounted cyclists soon.
Someone amusingly, though
Someone amusingly, though despairingly, pointed out that Hammersmith bridge was closed to vehicle traffic (including, ridiculously, cyclists who are supposed to push across) in April 2019, five days before the catastrophic Notre Dame fire, so Hammersmith and Fulham Council are telling us that it’s going to take about three times as long to repair a Victorian bridge as it took our cross-channel neighbours fundamentally to rebuild a ruined 12th century cathedral.
The problem is a political
The problem is a political one rather than technical. The London Borough of Hammersmith & Fulham, Transport for London, and the Department for Transport fund it 3 ways. One or more of the parties involved have been dragging their feet (to put it mildly) on stumping up their share.
Q “To ask the Secretary of
Q “To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, what steps her Department is taking to help reduce fatality rates of cyclists on rural roads.”
A <waffle>
The Highway Code was updated in 2022 to improve road safety for cyclists and pedestrians, by strengthening pedestrian priority on pavements and at crossings and introducing the Hierarchy of Road Users, which places those road users most at risk in the event of a collision, at the top of the hierarchy. The Highway Code makes it clear that those in charge of vehicles that can cause the greatest harm in the event of a collision bear the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger they pose to others, and highlights the need to take care and be particularly aware of young cyclists and pedestrians.
The Department has awarded local authorities £185.8 million of funding between 2017 and 2024 through the Safer Roads Fund to improve the safety of England’s most high risk ‘A’ roads. To date, it has funded 445.3 miles of rural roads which make up 62.4% of all funded routes.
Additionally, Active Travel England works with rural authorities to provide funding and to support the delivery of high-quality walking and cycling schemes, including segregated cycle lanes and junction improvements. This includes training for local authority staff, as well as design workshops and design assurance reviews of schemes under development.
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2025-01-17/24783
However we are going to take away the licences of benefit grabbing scum so you will be more likely to be banned from driving for benefit cheating than for actual road traffic crimes.
You may tell me to see Rule 5
You may tell me to see Rule 5, but I’ve just had what I think is a pretty irresponsible marketing email from Reilly: “The all-road Spectre is the ultimate bike for conquering red weather warnings”. Really, Reilly?
How else are we ageing Strava
How else are we ageing Strava wankers meant to bag our KOMs?
Just read,
Just read,
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jan/24/italian-cyclist-sara-piffer-19-dies-after-being-hit-car-during-training-ride
Just came back here to post
Just came back here to post the same. Gut wrenching and heartbreaking and utterly wrong.