Police deliver perfect mic drop reply to cyclist-bashing comment; Comedy gold Olympic mugshots; Cav wins again; Phil Gaimon calls out ESPN report of NFL coach’s ‘bicycling accident’; Pog touches down in Tokyo + more on the live blog
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Police deliver perfect mic drop reply to cyclist-bashing comment
Northumbria Police is rightly quite pleased with its efforts to jail dangerous driver Kyle Walsh who was caught thanks to a cyclist’s camera and sentenced to six months. Sharing the news on Facebook, the force warned motorists they “will take action” if they are seen driving recklessly or endangering other road users in cyclists’ footage.
As per, this was prime territory for anti-cyclist bingo and whataboutery wailing…Thankfully Northumbria Police was prepared…
David Chow must have been confident he’d served an ace: “Can drivers submit footage to prosecute cyclist’s [sic] that think they own the roads. Oh we can’t because, they have no reg to identify them.” A weak start there, David. Just the old ‘cyclists break the rules and need reg plates’…Not even a ‘road tax’ rambling…Disappointing.
You might want to sit down for Northumbria Police’s reply…”Hi David, can you tell us how many drivers were killed in a collision with a cyclist in the last five years? We’ll answer for you, it was zero. Irresponsible cycling puts the cyclist at risk, not the driver. It doesn’t make it okay, but we focus on our resource in the areas that are most likely to cause serious injury or death. It’s the person behind the wheel, not the one behind the handle bars, that can cause the greater harm.”
Game. Set. Match? No, David’s having another go…
David replied: “I don’t have the answer but I can say not all drivers are dangerous.
Seems nowadays we all get demonised from the minority of dangerous ones.”
Admitting you don’t have the answer isn’t a great start, David. Here’s the finisher from Northumbria…”That’s nonsense David. Where in the post have we demonised drivers? We’ve highlighted an example of how a cyclist’s head-cam has helped us take a dangerous driver off the road. If he had been allowed to continue driving in that way there’s a good chance someone could have been killed. We simply [want] both drivers and cyclists to consider sending footage of similar incidents to continue to take people like this off the roads. That’s ultimately the aim of this.”
Now that’s game, set, match…
More mardy mugshots from Tokyo ( and some funnies)...What a 12-hour flight does to you
Ffs
— Tom Pidcock (@Tompid) July 21, 2021
Tom Pidcock is the latest victim of the Olympic Games photographer…Meanwhile, Leigh Howard is the bad guy pain-loving P.E. teacher straight out a teen comedy…
Leigh Howard looks like every P.E. teacher. He just needs a whistle and some shorts. pic.twitter.com/lzXTuXTT4S
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 20, 2021
If you look very closely you can see the exact moment Michael Foley remembered he’d left the oven on…
This guy has seen things you would never believe. pic.twitter.com/fpCvRkMaDF
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 20, 2021
We’re all Daniel Dhers fans now and there’s nothing you can do about it. Legend.
Ok, I don’t even have a joke for this one. This guy won the entire thread. Congratulations. I will definitely root for you during the Olympics. pic.twitter.com/GbEjnF6kll
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 20, 2021
"This is more than just a win for me": Dylan Groenewegen reacts to first win in 17 months
Yesssss!🔥
Bedankt aan de mannen van @JumboVismaRoad die er alles aan hebben gedaan om ons te laten juichen. 🙏🏻 pic.twitter.com/e2MRoNCqlw
— Dylan Groenewegen (@GroenewegenD) July 20, 2021
Dylan Groenewegen won a bike race for the first time in 17 months yesterday, his first since returning to the sport following a nine-month suspension for his role in Fabio Jakobsen’s horror crash at the Tour of Poland last August.
“This is more than just a win for me,” Groenewegen said. “I went through a very difficult period in which cycling came second. A lot has happened. Of course with the accident, but also in my private life. We have continued to work hard and it is very nice to finally win again. The team has been fully supporting me all the time and I am very grateful to them for that. That has helped me a lot. It is a big relief that I finally won again.”
Mark Cavendish wins again: Sprints to victory in green jersey at traditional post-Tour crit
.@MarkCavendish keeps on winning 😃
Victory for the #TDF2021 green jersey in the Roeselare criterium!
Photo: @BeelWout pic.twitter.com/MZpvfNbZnh
— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) July 20, 2021
These post-Tour crits are almost always described as ‘lucrative’. They’re less about the competition than the spectacle of the stars of the Tour giving the crowds a show. Having said that, after getting pipped four times, it looks like Alpecin-Fenix were well up for this one in Roselare last night…
How many times did he who shall not be named win in Roselare?
Phil Gaimon calls out ESPN for reporting NFL coach being hit by a motorist as 'bicycling accident'
Hi @espn it’s not a “bicycling accident” when he was hit by a car https://t.co/K6LYtxnGNR
— Phil Gaimon (@philgaimon) July 20, 2021
Phil Gaimon has called out ESPN’s reporting of the news that New York Jets assistant coach Greg Knapp is battling life-threatening injuries after being hit by a motorist while cycling in California. ESPN reporter Rich Cimini wrote Knapp had suffered injuries in a “bicycling accident” before going on to say “Knapp, 58, was struck by a single motorist”.
On Twitter, former pro and full-time Strava segment sniper Gaimon shared the story with the message: “Hi ESPN. It’s not a ‘bicycling accident’ when he was hit by a car.”
Knapp was hit on Saturday at a busy intersection just before 14:50 local time, according to the San Ramon Police department. ESPN reports that based on preliminary investigations, drugs or alcohol were not a factor and the driver is said to be “cooperating with police”.
Pog arrives in Tokyo looking like he's never been stressed in his life
Pog has touched down in Tokyo for this Saturday’s road race. A reminder of how unfurrowed young Tadej looked on arrival, compare that to Woodsy and G yesterday. No wonder he’s so good, the man’s never missed a wink in his life…
Pogacar is the first cyclist to ever win Tour de France while still being a teenager. pic.twitter.com/57xD2wdsfq
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 20, 2021
And some more mugshots because they’re too entertaining not to share…
First rule of the Fight Club is: You do not talk about the Fight Club. pic.twitter.com/bBqvzr5e4M
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 21, 2021
Vincenzo hasn’t updated his Facebook profile picture since 2015…
You know that feeling when you look so good in a picture you use it for everything? Well, Nibali does. pic.twitter.com/mYRmfDMq0K
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 21, 2021
The best of police educating motorists online
Dear Meg,
We’ve DM’d you.
Yours sincerely,
The Police x— Roads Policing Unit (RPU) – Surrey Police – UK (@SurreyRoadCops) June 23, 2021
This morning’s blog lead has inspired us to take a look in the archives for some similar stories. Surrey Police Road Policing Unit seems to be the gold standard. Last month the force’s Twitter account slid into the DMs of one angry tweeter who called cyclists who ride in the middle of the road (probably primary position) “a dickhead”. Charming.
Then in 2017, there was the time the account’s admin told someone they were “too childish to drive”. And to complete the hat-trick, in November, when faced with the usual whataboutery, Surrey Police released a chart explaining exactly why road safety enforcement focuses on car drivers. Can Mr admin please have a word with the Richmond Park officer from Friday?
Donnie Campbell smashes record for 600km ride from Glasgow to Cape Wrath
An Turas Mor (354 mile off-road bike route from Glasgow to Cape Wrath) FKT 33 hours 31min
Well that was a big day on the bike at the weekend!! My butt is slightly tender today!!
Massive thanks to @rachael_run for supporting and feeding me pizza and cups if tea!
pic.twitter.com/VTWALbWjkK— Donnie Campbell (@GetActiveRunnin) July 19, 2021
Last weekend, Scottish rider Donnie Campbell smashed the record for the 350-mile off-road route from Glasgow to Cape Wrath, completing the course in 33 hours 31 minutes. The 36-year-old from the Isle of Skye set off at 5am on Saturday and survived on pizza and cake delivered by his wife, Rachel.
“It was actually a very enjoyable route but I suffered a lot of pain from the vibration created by the rugged trail. I had a very sore left hand and arm during the ride and my bum really suffered. The terrain was pretty unforgiving at times,” he told Deadline News.
“Near the northerly mountain of Ben Hope there was a climb up to a height of about 450 metres. The track was so rutted that I was forced to get off my bike to push. I was really fatigued by this point after riding so far. Then I had to descend on a steep and rugged track and go along a boggy loch shore. I was walking more than cycling.
“The ride lost its sense of fun then and I just wanted to get to the end. It was a relief when I did. However, I’m pleased I’ve finally done it because it has been my goal for summer 2021 and I am really happy with the time.”
Surrey Police Roads Policing Unit scores again
The cyclist as suffered a horrific arm injury.
The driver was uninjured.Our experience with high viz is it offers little to no help, especially in daylight, as the biggest problem is drivers failing to look properly.
We’ll post a court result, when we get there.
3564 pic.twitter.com/h8rUOL3mrB
— Roads Policing Unit (RPU) – Surrey Police – UK (@SurreyRoadCops) July 20, 2021
Right on cue we found this zinger from yesterday…
Bike hangar applications reach 10,000 in London Borough of Southwark with people facing a four-year wait to secure a space
MyLondon reports interest in bike hangars in Southwark is so high that some people face waits of up to four years to secure a space. The news outlet reports almost 10,000 people are currently on the waiting list. In a further 11 London boroughs, more than a thousand people are waiting. Some councils were quick to address their figures by pointing out how many hangars they plan on building.
Brent Council, for example, has secured funding for 70 bike hangars over the next two years, which will provide 420 new spaces. Croydon Council is also installing hangars for 180 new spaces.
Crit cancelled: Japan's traditional post-Tour Saitama Criterium cancelled due to Covid
.@MarkCavendish on the top spot again. pic.twitter.com/XoQic3mjeJ
— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) July 20, 2021
Here’s another video of Cav celebrating his criterium win in Roselare last night. One post-Tour crit that won’t be going ahead is the Saitama one in Japan. France 24 reports the event was supposed to be held days before the Tokyo Olympics opening ceremony but has now been cancelled over concerns of rising Covid cases.
“We have reached the conclusion that our priority is ensuring the safety and security of the people of Saitama, athletes and other participants, and fans,” organisers said in a statement late on Tuesday.
“Various anti-infection measures are being taken… but the expanding spread of infections in Japan remains unpredictable,” the statement said. The race normally attracts crowds of 100,000 fans as well as the winners and stars from the Tour. Last year it was cancelled for the first time since it started in 2013.
Mark Cavendish prioritising family time and insists contract talks are yet to begin with Deceuninck-Quick-Step
Mark Cavendish is yet to open talks with Decuninck-Quick-Step about extending his contract for 2022. Eurosport reports that Cav was apparently considering retirement had he broken Eddy Merckx’s record but is now hopeful of returning next year to reach 35.
Speaking at the Roselare Criterium which Cav won yesterday in team boss Patrick Lefevere’s home town, the Manxman said he hadn’t started discussions about a new deal.
“I haven’t seen Patrick yet. I just got back from Paris, so I haven’t talked about my future within the team yet. I want to enjoy today,” Cav said.
“After arriving in Paris, we had a small party. You can’t plan or do anything big in these corona times, but everyone on the team was there, so we had a ‘bubble party’ in which we discussed our Tour de France again. I’m going to make some time for my family now. I missed my wife and children. And I also want to recover a bit after a tough Tour.”
Thread: Could you keep up on a Tour de France stage?
The obvious choice would be the final stage into Paris. The first half is a procession where no attacks go and the second half is a fast paced drag race along the Champs Elysees. How far could we last?
2)
— Sam Larner (@SamLStandsUp) July 20, 2021
Here’s a bit of Wednesday afternoon fun because, let’s be honest, we’ve all sat in front of the TV wondering if we could hang on at the back…
That period was actually pretty hill with over 500m of elevation. Even so, pretty much all club cyclists could match that speed and that average power for that period of time.
However, it’s not a walk in the park…4)
— Sam Larner (@SamLStandsUp) July 20, 2021
Fabio Jakobsen WINS first race since returning from horror crash and life-threatening injuries
Victoire de @FabioJakobsen @deceuninck_qst au @CircuitZolder 👍👏🏻👏🏻 pic.twitter.com/UJe8IRh3FA
— Tour de Wallonie & GP Wallonie (@tourdewallonie) July 21, 2021
What a story! Fabio Jakobsen has won his first race back since returning to the sport from career-threatening injuries suffered a little under a year ago at the Tour of Poland. Jakobsen was placed in a medically-induced coma following the crash and needed multiple surgeries on his facial injuries. The 24-year-old returned to racing in April, but hadn’t made the top 20 of any race prior to today’s stage…now he’s got his first win back.
No words needed 🤗#ethiastourdewallonie2021 pic.twitter.com/ZRwJVDwL3a
— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) July 21, 2021
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@mctrials23 Yes, all of that and especially (I'm sure you meant this under the training understanding/advancements) huge blocks of altitude training which effectively legally simulates doping with EPO.
Another perhaps more extreme example of this is in athletics. Despite improvements in training and nutrition, shoes and kit, faster tracks, more nations taking part, increased funding and increased financial rewards the following world records still exist : Women's 100m & 200m (Florence Griffith-Joiner, 1988), Women's 400m (Marita Koch, 1985), Women's 800m (Martina Kratochvilova, 1983).
It is shocking how desperately stupid drivers can be. I've seen someone try to go around police blocking the road to drive up the highway towards where it was clearly blocked by multiple fire trucks filling bambi buckets on hovering helicopters. I've seen drivers (plural) who can't understand how to get around a collision blocking the road ahead where all they have to do is go around the block. Pit cones out to block a lane? Better make sure no one can squeeze their car between them because they will.
@Rendel Harris I'm frankly astounded that its taken this long to break many of the records and its just a testament to how ridiculous doping was. - training properly from a young age - diet changes - no long off season and "racing yourself back to fitness" - bike tech, aero bikes, better tyres, aero socks, skin suits etc - fuelling up to 3x the amount on the bike vs what they used to do - Recovery after rides - Training understanding/advancements Its amazing that we have had to change all this before we are beating guys who were doped up to the gills.
I tend to judge people by their actions rather than their words. At least he cycles and is not, to my knowledge, a die-hard vehicular cyclist nutter. Whatever happens he would struggle to be a worse candidate than Shaun Bailey. That was the chap who was caught campaigning in Brentwood, yes, the one in Essex where no one had the vote. Oh, and do we know if this will be a FPTP election or has it been rolled back to transferable vote?
@chrisonabike There seem to be three frameworks when it comes to speed limits. Framework 1 is the approach introduced in 1934. It doesn't see speed limits as traffic-calming measures, but as a legal tool for identifying and dealing with reckless drivers. You measure traffic speeds to establish what constitutes normal driving behaviour, assume most drivers are reasonable and have an aversion to crashing or running someone over, and set the limit accordingly. Exceptions should genuinely be exceptional, so that drivers take them seriously when the do differ from the norm. Framework 2 is closer to the approach that existed before 1930: you simply set a speed and expect everyone to drive at it. This seems to be the framework the Welsh Government claims to favour, set a lower limit and expect compliance, often without changing the road or substantially increasing enforcement. The WG guidelines actually said don't take any account of traffic speeds as a variable when it comes to making exceptions, if you like to link me to a study that says that's a good idea, I'd like to read it. This is also how I used to assume speed limits work, as something you just *set*. Framework 3 recognises that Framework 1 falls apart when you use Framework 2, but argues that this is acceptable as long as the average speed falls somewhat. This seems to be the reality of what is being used today: high, sometimes extremely high, non-compliance is considered an acceptable price for a marginal reduction in average speeds. The problem is what happens in the long term when non-compliance is effectively designed into the system: speed limits become useless for identifying genuinely dangerous drivers, speeding becomes normalised and more socially acceptable, and pedestrians are given signs telling them to expect speeds that drivers are routinely travelling above.
@Rendel Harris I think that's called a straw man, I've seen levels of non-compliance in Bristol measured at 97.5% and even over 99% in Monmouthshire, who is that meant to single out and target? It's not that most people wilfully break laws, it's because if the road is designed for higher speed people will naturally do it. This video from a traffic engineer explains it better than I can why this is materially different to things like drink driving. https://youtu.be/NDYQaa3K_BA
@Bill H ".....but he is a genuine utility cyclist." That's good to hear, but telling two different groups things that are diametrically opposed doesn't do much for his credibility or honesty.
I think Andy Burnham has offered some hope in the last few weeks by threatening renationalisation of some industries, highlighting Brexit's disastrous effects on trade and public funding and calling out the downside of Thatcherism (if that viewpoint becomes more widely acknowledged most senior Tory politicians will have no clothes). And to Kier Starmer's credit he did take steps to improve the relationship and trade with the EU. But let's not get too excited too soon. The big problem is that lots of things need fixing but many aren't prepared to pay more towards it or can't afford to pay more towards it. Incidentally, I was discussing modern politicians with my wife this morning. They often seem to be self seeking, uninterested in detail, not very capable and mainly focussed on soundbites and their careers. Has it always been like this? Or is it just that we are older? It always seemed that politicians of the 70's, 80's and 90's had a deeper sense of responsibility and obligations of duty towards the electorate. But maybe they didn't. Discuss.
I met James Cleverly on a ‘Movers and Shakers’ ride organised by the Redbridge LCC. The ride ended at the then new Hogs Hill race track, which was replacing the lost East Way track in Hackney Wick. My main recollection was JC being angry with Lord Victor Adebowale for being allowed to ride the circuit sans helmet. The rest of us had to borrow lids but the good Lord got an exemption for his hair. JC otherwise came across as perfectly pleasant and he has lived an interesting life. Whether that qualifies him to be mayor I don’t know, but he is a genuine utility cyclist.
44 thoughts on “Police deliver perfect mic drop reply to cyclist-bashing comment; Comedy gold Olympic mugshots; Cav wins again; Phil Gaimon calls out ESPN report of NFL coach’s ‘bicycling accident’; Pog touches down in Tokyo + more on the live blog”
Must be nice having a police
Must be nice having a police force that actually investigates crimes…
I think it was more they
I think it was more they bothered to follow up on the “not the driver” defence that other forces seem to think is not a crime and a full stop on the investigation.
Plus the prospect of a juicy
Plus the prospect of a juicy Perverting the Course of justice charge. Thats usually jail time so a bigger score in criminal bingo.
Fair play all the same to Northumbria Police.
Not a cyclist but:-
Not a cyclist but:-
E-scooter crash leaves girl, 3, seriously injured – BBC News
No, not a cyslist. Not a
No, not a cyslist. Not a driver either.
You’ll find most folk here have a clear idea of the hierarchy of responsibility, but if you need a refresher read why it should be in the highway code
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
There’s a lot missing from that story:
Looks like it happened in a
Looks like it happened in a park where it’s reasonable to let children run around so I don’t think it’s appropriate to blame the parents.
We’ve only got very limited trials of rental scooters, so all private scooters are unlicensed and illegal to use on pavement or road (or park). The rental ones (we’ve got a Voi trial here in Bristol) are only for use on the roads and if the GPS detects that you’re in a park, they shut off the motor.
I’d guess that if there is a e-scooter trial in the area, then the police would probably have contacted the company involved for GPS/rental information so I’d presume that this was a private e-scooter.
hawkinspeter wrote:
I didn’t blame the parents. I think you’ve misread. It’s a valid question to ask where the parents were since we don’t know the circumstances in an article lacking much detail.
Jenova20 wrote:
Sorry – I didn’t mean to imply that you were blaming the parent(s). I just don’t think it’s relevant where the parent(s) were as long as they were somewhere nearby as kids should be allowed to run wild and free in parks without needing constant supervision.
Jenova20 wrote:
There’s a lot of assumption going here, especially as the article is so lacking in detail, as you rightly point out. Yet your comment “Where are the parents…” can very much be interpreted as a suggestion that the parents were somehow potentially responsible through inaction or inattentiveness. For all we know the parents may have been stood right next to the child, holding their hand even, or maybe the kid was running around uncontrolled, we simply don’t know.
Let’s stop assuming and leave the Police to do what they can with their investigation shall we?
Actually, the scooter rider
Actually, the scooter rider may also be a child (it’s not clear). So there may well be a case for looking at parental responsibility from the other side.
Jenova20 wrote:
I don’t see the relevance, it’s the rider’s responsibility not to ride into three year olds, not the parents’.
No e-scooter is licenced to ride in a park
see previous answer
[/quote]No e-scooter is
[/quote]No e-scooter is licenced to ride in a park
I would have to double check buy I believe that the hire scooter scheme in Milton Keynes are licensed for shared use “redways” so they would definitely be allowed in parks.
Ok for cycle lanes but not
Ok for cycle lanes but not for tracks I think
Cycle lanes: regulatory changes by DfT
We will make amendments to the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 (that will apply to England only) to include e-scooters within the definition of vehicles permitted to use cycle lanes.
We will amend the definition of cycle lane to read ‘part of a carriageway of a road reserved for pedal cycles and/or electric scooters that is separated from the rest of the carriageway—’ or similar. This will permit e-scooters to be used in cycle lanes. It also means that the cycle symbol on signs will apply to e-scooters.
Cycle tracks: regulatory changes by DfT
The definition of cycle track is contained in primary legislation so we cannot amend this before trials will start.
Cycle tracks: actions required by local authorities
Local authorities can designate road space as either cycle lanes or cycle tracks. To enable e-scooter use, cycle tracks would need to be redesignated as cycle lanes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/e-scooter-trials-guidance-for-local-areas-and-rental-operators/e-scooter-trials-guidance-for-local-areas-and-rental-operators
I think the Redways in Milton
I think the Redways in Milton Keynes are pretty unique, but they are all shared use, not paricularly wide (a couple of meters) and run through all of the parks.
https://www.milton-keynes.gov.uk/pressreleases/2020/aug/electric-scooters-wheel-out-in-milton-keynes
Interesting to note that they are geofenced against use on any of the grid roads which are all over 30mph.
Sriracha wrote:
I don’t see the relevance, it’s the rider’s responsibility not to ride into three year olds, not the parents’.
No e-scooter is licenced to ride in a park
see previous answer— Jenova20
I missed the part where this was in a park. I’m assuming the article was updated since i last looked. In any case the scooter rider is at fault for the crash, but that doesn’t mean there couldn’t also be blame on behalf of whoever should have been watching the child.
Sriracha wrote:
You might want to check that. Bird has been running a trial in the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park since November 2018.
A mode of transport with a
A mode of transport with a motor – definitely not a bicycle; so another bad motorist causing serious injury to a more vulnerable person.
DaveHemm wrote:
Well, you’re technically correct (the best kind of correct), but you’re not taking into account the principle of “2 wheels good, 4 wheels bad” (apologies to trike riders). I think e-scooters are much closer to cyclists in terms of speed, danger to others etc. and the riders aren’t just viewing life through a windscreen so they’re more likely to be paying attention.
The BBC don’t state clearly
The BBC don’t state clearly whether the scooter is a legal hire one or an illegal privately owned one. Equally, they don’t say whether the area is open to hire scooters.
However, a bit like road safety, the problem stems from the Police not enforcing low level criminality eg privately owned scooters, scooters on pavements, close passes, and even speeding. They only seem to wake up when there are actually consequences that arise from these problems. This is not what anyone would call prevention.
The way the police operate is
The way the police operate is an interesting one. I was stopped by the police recently in the City of London because I was carrying a camera (not actually taking any photos). He wanted to look at the photos on my camera to check for hostile reconnaissance. Anyway, while talking to him I mentioned the various illegal scooters zooming past. His response was that they are only illegal because of a “loophole” and that it is just because the laws haven’t kept up with technology. So in his view he wouldn’t stop people on scooters despite it currently being illegal unless they are on hire versions. He was a City of London police officer.
I can’t see any way that the
I can’t see any way that the use of motorised scooters is going to be legal on pavements or when used by minors and it’s highly likely that you’ll need insurance. Those factors are already covered by the hire scooter trials. He’s, therefore, wrong in his analysis.
squired wrote:
Can they do that?
I’d thought that on public land/highways you can take photos of whatever you want.
Can only be stopped for it on private land where the police don’t have powers anyway (that’s why they have private security).
Section 43 of the Terrorism
Section 43 of the Terrorism Act 2000 https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/photography-advice/
Clearly squired is a very dodgy looking chap(ess).
Or bearded
Or bearded
I wonder if squired was doing
I wonder if squired was doing photography while Black (or brown)?
@squired? (edit: they’ve answered, and they weren’t)
Nothing illegal about taking
Nothing illegal about taking photos – but if you spent a lot of time taking photos for example specifically around Downing Street (other sensitive sites are available), of security positions, etc, then they could be arguing that there’s suspicious activity meriting a stop and search.
Personally, I would be putting a bit of pressure on the Officer to explain why having a camera in London, a massive tourist (and artistic) city is in any way suspicious and justifies a search – particularly as in the City of London, you aren’t at Downing Street or or other potentially ultra-sensitive sites.
squired wrote:
genuinely I think I would’ve told him to fuck off.
what do they think can be revealed by a camera that’s not already on google maps or the internet anyway? Outrageous abuse of power (assuming they have that power). And how would they/you know what a compromising photo is if it’s just pics of buildings with some pedals and traffic in front?!?
this sort of thing used to happen a lot more a number of years back, thought it had calmed down tbh
squired wrote:
strange that there is not also a ‘loophole’ allowing for use of cameras in tourist areas. Many historic sights within the city of London area
squired wrote:
That officer had no right to ask to see your photo’s unless he was carrying out a Section 57 stop and in which case he would have had to give you a Section 57 notice after the checks, The Prevention of terrorism Act does not empower a copper to ask to see your photo’s just in case. It’s interesting that the same officer was carrying out illegal behaviour whilst ignoring illegal behaviour.
Remeber if you are stopped by a copper & asked to let them see your photo’s “just in case”, ask if it is a Section 57 stop, if they say yes, ask for a Section 57 notification 1st, thet’ll usually not want to provide one so will bluster and walk off. If it isn’t a Section 57 stop you can refuse to let them see your photo’s full stop.
Indeed. Every smartphone is a
Indeed. Every smartphone is a camera and basically everyone has one… and you can instantly upload any pics you take to the cloud, etc. So many complications. Police really shouldn’t be asking to see your photos without proper authority. Police are there to serve and protect us, to investigate crime, not to be nosey in an effort to find crime without any prior evidence of a crime having been reported or commited.
I’d have told the policeman asking to see my photos to go and investigate some crime seeing as they weren’t busy.
I’m a middle aged healthy
I’m a middle aged healthy looking (lots of cycling!) white guy. I’d come from my office and was out for lunch, with my camera. There were six of them across one of the junctions in the square mile. He asked me what I was taking photos of (nothing, I’d not taken any), why I was there, etc. Then said about hostile recon. and asked to see my images. I know I could say no, but I had nothing to show him anyway. However, it is bizarre really when I could have just as easily been walking round taking photos and videos with my mobile phone far more discreetly than anyone walking around with a camera.
I’m well aware of the rules around stopping and in this case it was odd to be stopped when I’d literally not taken a single photo, just guilty of walking with a camera at my side. I did wonder whether they had intel about someone in the area with more deadly intentions, but I doubt I would fit the expected profile. After he checked me the six of them went back to their van and drove off.
squired wrote:
Clearly were just a bit bored, needed something to do…
(Hey, but, remember, people: if you’ve nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear…)
Hmm…
They are responding to the
They are responding to the trial here https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19428882.essex-police-fine-riding-e-scooters-illegally/
“But going forward we will now be issuing tickets for fines and points on your driving licence for traffic offences as well as seizing the e-scooter.”
The problem stems from the
The problem stems from the law allowing the public sale of e-scooters knowing they will in all likelihood end up being ridden illegally. Who, having bought one of these things, is going to ride it around their garden?
It puts the police in an invidious position – turn a blind eye, or rack up headlines about jobsworthy police harassing “innocent” e-scooterists; whatabout [insert your favourite crime]?
The child has “life changing”
The child has “life changing” injuries, the scooter rider stopped to say sorry but then carried on their merry way, and the police are now “asking” for them to come forward (saying that maybe the scooterist hadn’t realised how serious the child’s injuries were).
I’m presuming from that, that the scooter wasn’t an ‘authorised scheme’ rental scooter but a highly illegal private one…
Quote:
I feel that this one comment correctly calls out an entire cultural attitude.
The link to the police
The link to the police comment, if you’re interested:
facebook.com/northumbriapolice
Could I keep up on a Tour
Could I keep up on a Tour stage? No.
Next?
Are those mugshots real??
Are those mugshots real??
yep, download the official
yep, download the official Tokyo olympics app, go to the athlete section, filter on the sport, and browse to your hearts content.
each athletes bio comes with a surprising amount of detail, from their jobs,hobbies,ambitions to listing significant injuries, milestones, reasons for being in the sport, and even pre competition rituals, and some even have links to their Strava profiles, as well as the usual social media listings.
Re: Groenewegen
Re: Groenewegen
What a douchebag. All about him and *his* difficult period. That wasn’t an accident at all. We can’t on one hand (rightly) attack all of the “cycling accident” headlines, while allowing him to claim this. No. Just no.
And why, just out of interest
And why, just out of interest, wasn’t it an accident? What malice was in the background between riders which made it intentional? What exactly do you think drove Groenewegen to act in such a manner and to also risk his own life?
He clearly intentionally ran
He clearly intentionally ran him into the barrier. If this were a car and a bicycle, no one would be calling it an accident, because it wasn’t. And poor baby Groenewegen had so much adversity because of it. Spare me. He put a cyclist into a coma because he intentionally put him into the barrier.