Lance Armstrong becomes reality TV villain after clashing with Modern Family star over trans athletes; Tadej Pogačar: “The Tour de France is definitely not over”; Tour heads to its ‘roof’ for Alpine monster + more on the live blog
It’s Wednesday, and Ryan Mallon is all set for a gruelling day through the pouring rain and up the long steep climbs of the live blog
Lance Armstrong becomes reality TV villain – and threatens to leave show – after clashing with Modern Family star over trans athletes
So, it turns out Big Tex just wasn’t content with his long-held status as pro cycling’s pantomime villain – he’s carving out another niche as the bad guy of reality television these days, too.
As you may remember (despite the attempts to expunge it from your mind), everyone’s favourite seven-time Tour de France winner is spending this particular July on a simulated version of Mars, as part of Fox’s new celebrity competition show, where famous people – like actual famous people, like Ronda Rousey and McLovin from Superbad – pretend to be astronauts on the Red Planet, completing tasks to win a speedboat, or something (I may be getting my TV programmes mixed up).
Anyway, Big Tex is living up to his divisive reputation on the show it seems. On this week’s episode – and this is a sentence I never thought I’d write – Armstrong threatened to leave the show altogether after tensions escalated between the disgraced former world champion and Alex from Modern Family, Ariel Winter, due to a row over trans athletes.
According to Vanity Fair, Armstrong (despite his claim that he only wanted to ask questions about the debate on his pod) told Rousey that a separate category for trans athletes is needed.
““Listen, this is real simple: You want to transition, let’s do it. You have your own category. We’re gonna have a whole new division. We’ll celebrate you just like we celebrate everybody else. Let’s go. What’s unfair about that?” he asked the UFC fighter.
However, LA’s take wasn’t greeted with much enthusiasm from his fellow contestants, with singer Tinashe (no, me neither) arguing that excluding trans people “from the same spaces and places that everyone else uses” is “not good for their mental health”.
“Actually, no, we’re not excluding anybody,” Armstrong jumped back in. “And, by the way, I sound like a right-wing lunatic. I’m not. I’m the most liberal person, but from a sporting perspective…”
Actress Winter then remarked that the banned rider was “ostracising the people who don’t fit in the categories”, while Olympic figure skater said Armstrong’s stance was “disheartening” and that the debate around trans participation in sport was “way more nuanced” than the Texan was making out.
Rippon also admitted that Armstrong’s remarks “have completely shifted the energy and have completely shifted the focus, and I will not ever forget them.”
Well, you don’t get this kind of debate on the Apprentice…
The next day, Armstrong – giving everyone an insight into what it must have been like sharing a team bus with him during his racing days – said he was leaving the show because he couldn’t work with Winter anymore, despite the actress trying to assure him that “we don’t see eye to eye on a human rights issue, that’s it.”
“Ariel, let me make this really simple: I don’t need the drama. I busted my ass for nine days, I’m gonna bust my ass on the 10th day, and I’m going to auto-select myself to leave,” Armstrong said, inadvertently mimicking the script of his now embarrassing Nike advert from back in the day.
‘I’m on Mars, busting my ass alongside C-list celebrities ten hours a day. What are you on?’
Ehhh, I’m on the live blog Lance, calm down.
Apparently there were no zipped lips gestures or comparing people to chairs, however, so at least he didn’t go the ‘full Armstrong’ of yore.
Anyway, after sleeping on it – and presumably after a quick call from Bill Stapleton, or whoever’s doing that job these days – Armstrong decided to get along with everyone, for once.
““Ariel and I just have very different styles,” he said. “I did want to leave, but, you know, maybe I’m not giving people enough credit. I mean, everybody’s different. Some people hold grudges, but I’ll stick it out.”
Almost as much drama as a day in the mountains at the Tour. Speaking of which…
19 July 2023, 15:27
They think it’s all over: Jonas Vingegaard overcomes a stalled motorbike blocking his way to seal second Tour de France win, as Felix Gall takes epic breakthrough stage victory in Alps
“I’m gone. I’m dead.”
Those were the matter of fact, if slightly haunting words that drifted over the radio as Tadej Pogačar’s hopes of winning the 2023 Tour de France ended not with a bang, but with a whimper on the Col de la Loze this afternoon.
For 15 days the Slovenian ensured that this year’s Tour continued to hang in the balance, a game of fine margins and tensions.
But, after yesterday’s shocking hammer blow in the time trial, the Slovenian – who openly voiced his hopes for horrible weather today – wilted in the stifling heat of the Alps, his eyes vacant, the lack of racing in his legs following his wrist-breaking crash at Liège–Bastogne–Liège, and perhaps the aftershocks of his crash on the Col des Saisies at the start of the day, now starkly evident as the pressures of a grand tour third week mounted.
Like Merckx, Indurain, and Riis before him, Pogačar’s yellow jersey-losing crack, before the Col de la Loze had even reached its steepest, cruellest slopes, was seismic. He will probably, barring another blow-up in the Vosges on Saturday, still finish second on GC – but the six minutes that separated him and winner-elect Jonas Vingegaard by the top of that savage runway in Courchevel may as well have been an eternity.
(A.S.O./Pauline Ballet)
While Pogačar’s crack now appears like it was inevitable, it was also the result of some aggressive, almost Playstation cycling from Jumbo-Visma in the first half of today’s stage. The Slovenian, shirt flapping open, may have capitulated to the pressure exerted by an ambitious Ineos Grenadiers team on the final climb, but it was the constant probing, the relentless pace from the men in yellow and black that hammered the initial, crucial blows.
Vingegaard’s eventual move may also have been unsuccessful in terms of the stage win – not helped by a stalled car and motorbike on a corner blocking his progress as he began to eat into stage leader Felix Gall’s lead – but it at least confirmed that the Dane, even in cruise control, is a level above the competition, even his former shadow.
On a day when Vingegaard’s now incredibly snug yellow jersey feels like a confirmation, Felix Gall’s stage win marked the Austrian climber’s arrival on the big stage.
🏆🇦🇹 Felix Gall flies to victory on the @courchevel Altiport!
Just a month after his breakthrough stage win at the Tour de Suisse, the AG2R rider – catapulted into the French team’s leadership role following Ben O’Connor’s underwhelming start to the Tour – comfortably held off (after some sterling work by O’Connor on the final climb) breakaway colleague Simon Yates for an emotional win on the race’s Queen Stage, effectively sealing his top ten on GC as a bonus.
“It’s incredible. I don’t know what to say. This whole year has been incredible and now to do so well in the Tour de France and to win the Queen Stage, it’s incredible,” the 25-year-old said after the stage in an emotional interview.
The yellow jersey race may be characterised by a sense of finality this afternoon – but for Gall, today’s stage may prove just the beginning.
19 July 2023, 16:22
“Sur une autre planète”: What exactly are you getting at, Tour de France social media admin?
Surely that very specific metaphor – a Tour classic – couldn’t be an allusion to a certain current reality TV contestant? Surely not…
19 July 2023, 16:16
“I don’t know what happened, I came to the bottom of the climb really empty, all the food that I eat today didn’t go to my legs. A super big disappointment”
Pogačar waiting for his white jersey protocol TV interview. "I don't know what happened, I came to the bottom of the climb really empty, all the food that I eat today didn't go to my legs. A super big disappointment." he tells FranceTV pic.twitter.com/z7zc5FO6lM
And that’s all she wrote: Pogačar dropped by GC group halfway up Col de la Loze
It’s done. With 14km left to the finish, and over seven of the hardest kilometres of the Col de la Loze still to go, Tadej Pogačar has cracked, wilting in the heat, his yellow jersey hopes now definitively eviscerated.
The winner of stage two at this year’s Tour has just signed a new, salary-enhanced contract at Cofidis – I wonder if his video editing skills were part of the negotiations?
19 July 2023, 13:56
Is the Tour over? Nobody knows…
Woah. As the riders head to the foot of the mammoth Col de la Loze, I thought I’d check in on this morning’s poll, to see whether you lot reckon this year’s Tour is still up for grabs.
And – in a rarity for the road.cc live blog poll – the votes are almost evenly split…
Mind you, those numbers might be very different in 40km…
Tom Dumoulin says Jonas Vingegaard’s “time trial porn” was best TT in cycling history
Retired Giro d’Italia winner and world time trial champion Tom Dumoulin – one of the finest TT riders of his generation – knows a thing or two about racing against the clock.
So it says a lot that the Dutchman was so impressed by former Jumbo-Visma teammate Jonas Vingegaard’s Tour-destroying 22km yesterday afternoon, that he described it to Sporza’s cycling programme Vive le Vélo as the greatest time trial in the sport’s history.
“We witnessed the best time trial ever in cycling," Dumoulin said yesterday evening after watching an effort so impressive that the yellow jersey admitted he thought his bike computer was broken, so high were the numbers being displayed on his screen.
“First of all, because of the lead that Vingegaard takes over the rest. But I also watched his descent and his flat parts and that was real time trial porn. It was fantastic to see. He took a lot of time uphill – his power must have been incredibly high. But also, his descents and his cornering were just sublime.
“The time trial is of course a completely different discipline than what we have seen in the past two weeks. Crazy things often happen there. But no-one could have imagined that it would be a hammer blow of more than a minute and a half. Not Vingegaard, and also not Pogačar. Everyone was amazed.”
You and me both, Tom.
(Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
Dumoulin then questioned Pogačar’s decision to swap bikes towards the end of the stage, though he believes that the Slovenian wasn’t on the type of time trial form that saw him usurp the Dutchman’s teammate Primož Roglič on La Planche des Belles Filles.
The former Tour podium finisher also believes that the technical expertise of his old Jumbo-Visma squad played a part in yesterday’s result, though it certainly wasn’t the deciding factor in one of the most dominant time trial wins in the sport’s history.
“Right now, Jumbo-Visma is the best team in the world in everything. They do everything so structured and prepare everything so well, especially on such a time trial day – Vingegaard and Van Aert’s bicycles are even made without paint in order to save 150 grams,” he said.
“I have the feeling that at UAE they are just a little less close to that perfection. All added up, that makes a difference. But to be clear, not a minute and a half. Those were mainly Vingegaard’s legs.”
19 July 2023, 12:39
Weird, wonderful (and just plain wrong) bikes and kit of the Tour de France
As today’s Queen Stage finally enters a (relatively) calm period, you now have a bit of time to check out all the interesting, innovative, and downright strange equipment choices and setups we’ve spotted at cycling’s biggest race over the years:
Odd cycling graphs: Newcastle named second-most bike friendly city in the UK… a year after being named the second-most dangerous city for cycling by another survey
Here at road.cc, we often get emails from insurance companies telling us about their latest study into the best or worst places to ride your bike in the UK, ostensibly as a means of convincing you to get a quote (presumably because you’re now frightened for your life after reading their ‘stats’).
This latest email, from Kent-based insurance firm Saga, promised to explore the UK’s “most cycle-friendly cities” – and let’s just say that the results, and the methods of achieving them, are interesting…
According to Saga’s research – which was based (rather mysteriously) on ‘external data’ and compiled using an odd and obscure algorithm based on a city’s cycling infra, rate of bike thefts and shops, cycling safety, bike sharing schemes, and the weather – Norwich came out on top as the UK’s most cycle-friendly city (just don’t tell them about the new Aldi or the shortcut-frequenting motorists in the city centre, eh?).
Meanwhile, despite scoring a 10 for cyclists’ safety – a pretty important metric, I’d reckon – London finished bottom of the pile, with a score of zero, for some reason.
(Can anyone work out that table? Because I can’t, although my brain may be addled by trying to keep up with this Tour de France stage…)
To add to the confusion, Belfast – the brunt of so many jokes on this live blog for its horrendous approach to cycling infra – popped up in third place on Saga’s poll, with a score of 9.28.
It was pure madness on the Col des Saisies just now, as Jumbo-Visma completely ripped the race to shreds on the first climb of the day (either to prevent Pogačar bridging across to teammate Rafał Majka in the break, to move Sepp Kuss up the GC, or just to kill off the race once and for all – take your pick).
Their brutal acceleration on the upper slopes of the Saisies put the Ineos Grenadiers and fourth-placed Carlos Rodríguez into scramble mode, and has left riders scattered all over the Alps.
Polka dot-clad Giulio Ciccone, Julian Alaphilippe, and the impressive Krists Neilands have descended like demons to put a 20 second gap into the peloton, but the race shows no signs of settling down for the moment.
Madness, pure madness.
19 July 2023, 11:01
Not like that, Tadej: Pogačar crashes on first climb of the day
Oops. Tadej Pogačar’s attempt to mount a Lazarus (or Landis) style comeback on today’s Tour de France stage hasn’t got off to the best start, as the Slovenian crashed – uphill – on the Col des Saisies, the first big climb of the day, a classic lapse of concentration and touch of the wheels sending the white jersey to the deck.
🚴🇫🇷 | Er zijn nu ook beelden van de valpartij van Tadej Pogacar. Hopelijk valt het mee! 👑⛰️ #TDF2023
Fortunately for the race, Pog is back up at the front now and seems fine (except for a bloodied left knee), as Jumbo-Visma’s Dylan van Baarle continues to keep the pace high in the ever dwindling main bunch, with top ten contenders Simon Yates and Felix Gall currently just up the road in a super strong breakaway.
I told you it was going to be interesting…
19 July 2023, 10:45
Now that’s what I call multi-tasking: Josh Reid finishes first at 1,400 mile Pan-Celtic Race… all while filming an epic video
Come on Jonas, it’s all well and good winning the Tour de France again, but it would be even more impressive if you filmed yourself while time trialling everyone else into oblivion, wouldn’t it?
Well, that’s exactly what Josh Reid – he of riding home from China fame – managed to pull off earlier this month, all while finishing first at the Pan-Celtic Race, the 1,425 mile self-supported ride through the Celtic heartlands of Britain, Ireland, and France, this year taking riders from the Breton port of St Malo to the finish in Llandudno.
Very cool. Now come on Vingegaard, here’s your chance to really impress us…
“I cycle over this every day. It achieves nothing”: Is this the most useless bike marking in Britain?
As the riders amble through the neutralised zone, we’re turning our attentions away from the Tour for a bit, and back to some of the UK’s pointless cycling ‘infra’, with this fading, pitiful bike marking in Worcester certainly up there in the ‘uselessness’ GC…
I cycle over this everyday. It achieves nothing.
If we collectively agree we have major environmental, health and societal issues, and we also agree more walking and cycling (less driving) will contribute to solutions, we have to make it happen.
I have form for asking this question just as the Tour gets turned on its head, but I feel it’s worth a poll this morning, especially following Vingegaard’s utter annihilation of everyone yesterday (and the almost universal acceptance that that was that), and less than an hour before Pogačar gets his chance at some rapid-fire redemption…
If UAE Team Emirates and Tadej Pogačar really do decide to rip the race to shreds from the gun this morning – which, let’s face it, is what all us neutrals want to see – they couldn’t have picked a better day to do it.
Because today’s route – 166km Alpine kilometres, featuring a cat two mountain, two cat ones, and a ridiculously high HC monster – is an absolute brute.
After 17 up and down kilometres, the riders will take on the classic combination of the Col des Saisies and Cormet de Roseland, where we could see UAE’s first ramping up of the pace.
After a bit of valley and the shorter, but still taxing, Côte de Longefoy, the riders will descend to the foot of the Col de la Loze, which at a whopping 2,304m is the ‘roof’ of this year’s Tour.
Pogačar suffering on the Col de la Loze back in 2020 (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
The Col de la Loze, you may recall, was the scene of Pogačar’s brief wobble at the 2020 Tour, when he was put under pressure by a Jumbo-Visma rider who seemed destined to end up in yellow in Paris, only for it to be yanked from him on the final Saturday in the Vosges (not that I’m saying history will repeat itself, or anything…).
This time, however, the riders will tackle the climb from a different approach, through Courchevel before reaching the ski resort of Méribel via a side road.
Officially, the Col de la Loze is a fear-inducing 28.1km, with an average gradient of six percent. However, it’s the final six kilometres – which average 10 percent and includes pitches of 24 percent – which will really worry the GC contenders (as well as any sprinters struggling to make the time limit. Just ask Bryan Coquard, last on this stage in 2020, who struggled so much he believed he was actually climbing up the sheer face of the mountain. “I wondered what I was doing there,” the Frenchman said.)
The pain won’t be over after the summit, however, as a rapid descent leads to the final, leg-breaking 18 percent climb to the finish at Courchevel altiport. Lovely.
It promises to be a brutal day, especially if this bad weather keeps up. And, unless the white jersey waves the white flag (UAE did make some noises after yesterday’s drubbing about targeting a Schleck-style 2-3 on the lower slopes of the podium with Pog and Adam Yates, though that could all be a ruse), we could be in for a cracker.
19 July 2023, 09:05
What was that Tadej said about rain and bad weather?
Looks like UAE Team Emirates’ rain dance paid off last night. That’s Pogačar weather, that is…
Our teams in France waking up to this today… 🤔 Remember what Tadej said about hoping for bad weather? pic.twitter.com/noNbmiGWrD
Cancel your meetings, get your earphones on, and stash the popcorn at your desk – the Tour de France may not be over after all…
19 July 2023, 08:43
“The Tour de France is definitely not over,” says Tadej Pogačar
Good news for anyone – including the riders and staff at UAE Team Emirates – reeling from Jonas Vingegaard’s savage pillaging of the Tour de France yesterday afternoon… Because Tadej Pogačar believes that the battle for the yellow jersey is far from over – and that’s he’s going to come out swinging today.
But, just as the obituaries for this year’s GC race were being sent to the papers, one man, and an important man at that, believes that the 2023 Tour de France is far from over.
“It’s definitely not over, especially if it is raining tomorrow and then I can promise you it’s going to be interesting,” Pogačar said after yesterday’s stage, pointing to today’s four mountain monster to Courchevel, which includes the ‘roof’ of this year’s Tour, the Col de la Loze.
“There are two more really hard stages to come, I think the two hardest of this year’s tour. Anything can happen, anyone can have a bad day, and like I said, I hope tomorrow is my day.
“We will try to make a plan. It’s not easy to gain two minutes, a little bit less, but we’ll try.”
(Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
To be fair, if there’s anyone in professional cycling who could turn the tables following yesterday’s brutal defeat, it’s Tadej Pogačar.
Just when you thought it was all over, we could be in for a treat…
After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.
I doubt the person running the TdF twitfeed account is even old enough to know who Lance Armstrong is properly, or what L'Equipes headline mirrors from 24 years ago...they probably just saw it and thought yeah thats a good phrase, seems to be popular for some reason, lets tag along with that.
I wonder what these 'Permanently outraged' would do without the likes of Lance Armstrong or for that matter Donald Trump or Nigel Farage ?
Fact is, these people need a Lance Armstrong, they need a crisis like Covid or 'climate emergency' etc. Without that reason to be outraged, or to signal their virtue, what do they do ? Whatever did they do back in the day when Pronouns didn't matter ?
I wonder what these "sizzling gammons" would do without JSO, or BLM, or Pride?
Fact is, these people need people trying to make the world a better and more equal place. Without that reason to be outraged and spout their hate, what do they do? Whatever did they do back in the day when such matters weren't aired and debated?
Have you seen BLM? Pretty sure those were massive scams, even the imported version here in Bristol the organiser is up on fraud charges. The main one in the USA allowed the Executive to leech USD$10m in donations (court case in California) and another one buy a USD$6m mansion.
Isn't JSO funded by the heiress of JP Getty Oil billionaire ?
These are obvious scams, and anyway simply reactionary elements to the majority in the general community. But anyway the point is you need the likes of Lance Armstrong, or Trump. What else would ever you do?
This site needs them for clicks. Let's see them go a couple of weeks without either of them?
's OK, think they said they were going for a bike ride. Presumably after encountering the excellent conditions there and world-class infra they may change their mind on some of the cycling-related trigger issues...
It's rather interesting that they said they were going for a bike ride, presumably "here in Bristol", in a post timed around 1 am today. Rather an odd time for a ride, although one which would make perfect sense if the rider was, for example, in California, where it would be 5 pm and just nice for a ride after work.
It's rather interesting that they said they were going for a bike ride, presumably "here in Bristol", in a post timed around 1 am today. Rather an odd time for a ride, although one which would make perfect sense if the rider was, for example, in California, where it would be 5 pm and just nice for a ride after work.
Oh, Ok - I missed that. It kind of blew my mind, and I'd always assumed roulereo was in Idaho or Texas or somewhere like that...
It's rather interesting that they said they were going for a bike ride, presumably "here in Bristol", in a post timed around 1 am today. Rather an odd time for a ride, although one which would make perfect sense if the rider was, for example, in California, where it would be 5 pm and just nice for a ride after work.
Oh, Ok - I missed that. It kind of blew my mind, and I'd always assumed roulereo was in Idaho or Texas or somewhere like that...
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They said "even the imported version here in Bristol the organiser is up on fraud charges" and the BBC says "Bristol Black Lives Matter march organiser denies fraud" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-64150722
Farage and Trump are liars and grifters. It's evident. Yet for some reason there are people who still believe these super rich, privately educated, privileged people actually give a monkeys about the 'working man'. Trump 'cares' because he makes money from his cult folllowers. Farage needs ignorance on a mass scale for his hate to get any traction.
Presumably there is some logic to the scores in the Saga table but there's really only one thing to say when you get to the end column: That's numberwang!!
My assumption is that the last column is a relative score. So the best city was always going to score 10, and the worst 0, and then the others are on a scale between those.
I'm not in the least bit surprised to see that Armstrong has apparently learnt nothing from the last 11 years and is still acting like a jumped up über-arsehole.
It seems that the anti-trans position is that there are physiological differences between people that confer an 'unfair' disadvantage, and forcing people to compete against someone with an advantage is 'insulting' or 'hateful', so we should be segregating people based on physiology.
So should we take this idea further and segregate based on any statistically advantageous physiological differences?
Statistically dark skinned people do better at running and light skinned people do better at swimming, would racial segregation in sports be fairer? /s
Is forcing light skinned runners to compete against dark skinned runners insulting or hateful? /s
It seems that the anti-trans position is that there are physiological differences between people that confer an 'unfair' disadvantage, and forcing people to compete against someone with an advantage is 'insulting', so we should be segregating people based on physiology. So should we take this idea further and segregate based on any advantageous physiological differences? Statistically dark skinned people do better at running and light skinned people do better at swimming, would racial segregation in sports be fairer? Is forcing light skinned runners to compete against dark skinned runners insulting?
Is that a contender for most stupid comment of the day?