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Cycling lawyer's tongue-in-cheek post suggesting cars should be high-vis goes viral; "Even decent(ish) cycle infrastructure can't protect you fully from lazy, inattentive driving"; Timmy Mallett's cycle travels; Alpe d'Huez rumours + more on the live blog

It's been almost two weeks since Dan Alexander did one of these (lucky you)... he'll be trying to remember how to live blog this Wednesday, bringing you all the news and more from the world of cycling...
18 October 2023, 09:24
Cycling lawyer's tongue-in-cheek post suggesting cars should be high-vis goes viral

A bit more on this from yesterday's live blog...

> "Perhaps the worst road safety advert I've ever seen": Cyclists criticise 'victim-blaming' road safety advert that equates texting and driving with using a pedestrian crossing while wearing earphones

And a new tongue-in-cheek 'advert' from The Biking Lawyer, a Canada-based "personal injury lawyer for cyclists", who imagined how those all too familiar campaigns placing responsibility on the most vulnerable to 'protect' themselves from road danger through personal protective equipment/clothing might look if the shoe were on the other foot.

 For examples of said campaigns, see:

> Police ask pedestrians to wear hi-vis following spate of road deaths in Scotland

> Met Police denies operation issuing hi-vis to cyclists was 'victim-blaming'

> Police accused of "victim-blaming" for advice to cyclists after two riders injured by drivers

And with the nights drawing in, I'm sure those won't be the last...

Anyway, back to the advert which has been widely shared on Twitter and Facebook, being seen more than 130,000 times on the former and attracting 1,800 comments on the latter. Honestly, I wouldn't bother going through them, unless you particularly enjoy seeing things go over people's heads...

More on the live blog tomorrow, same place, same time...

18 October 2023, 15:45
Unlikely transfer news: Eden Hazard edition
18 October 2023, 16:09
"Hare-brained" segregated bike path will "prioritise a small handful of cyclists over thousands of commuters" and increase collisions, councillors claim
18 October 2023, 14:37
UCI president hails Scottish World Championships as "unprecedented success"
Women’s elite road race, 2023 UCI Cycling World Championships, Glasgow (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Zac Williams/SWpix.com

The UCI's president, David Lappartient, has spoken of his satisfaction with the first combined World Championships, the so-called 'mega worlds', where all cycling disciplines' annual championships were rolled into one Scottish celebratory festival.

Calling the event an "unprecedented success", Lappartient pointed to the TV figures as proof and suggested "disciplines that do not normally benefit from such a high level of TV and media coverage" will thrive thanks to the "increased exposure".

Fans at the team presentations, 2023 UCI Cycling World Championships, Men's Elite Road Race, Edinburgh to Glasgow, Scotland (Pauline Ballet/SWpix.com)

Pauline Ballet/SWpix.com

The UCI released a press release stating the championships had attracted 11.9 million viewers in the UK, 18.2 million in France, and 15.5 million in Italy.

"The TV figures show that the public massively followed the UCI Cycling World Championships competitions and that events and disciplines that do not normally benefit from such a high level of TV and media coverage benefited greatly from the increased exposure that will boost their popularity and development at international level," Lappartient said.

"The event saw around 8,000 athletes (elite and amateur) from 132 countries take part in the various disciplines on the programme.

"The first edition of the UCI Cycling World Championships was an unprecedented success."

18 October 2023, 13:51
"Blends modern performance with traditional styling to stand out from the crowd – and it's a joy to ride"
18 October 2023, 14:25
New surface laid at Shrewsbury Sports Village cycle track, scene of Tom Pidcock winning a national cyclocross title before falling into disrepair
Shrewsbury Sports Village cycle track (Google Maps)

The Shropshire Star reports that the cycle track at Shrewsbury Sports Village is to be repaired. Two weeks ago we reported that the facility, the scene of a national cyclocross victory for Tom Pidcock, had been described as "in ruins" with a cracking surface and "brambles shooting out of everywhere".

The works follow reports that 32 people had to be treated after falling off their bikes at events earlier this year.

"It is unfortunate that the surface has cracked due to the quality of the ground beneath, and we expect the new asphalt will provide a solution to that problem by flexing rather than cracking," councillor Robert Macey said.

Trackside trees are also to be cut back in an attempt to reduce the number of leaves which fall on the track, in turn making things even more dangerous.

18 October 2023, 13:37
"Even decent(ish) cycle infrastructure can't protect you fully from lazy, inattentive driving"

The words of Twitter, sorry X user, Alan who shared this video...

Now, I'll leave the semantic discussion about what qualifies for the "decent(ish) cycle infrastructure" tag to you lot in the comments section (I'm sure this one would rank pretty poorly over in the Netherlands). But I've got to admit the 'near miss' wasn't even in the top two things I was expecting to happen there.

As the video began I was too confident we were going to get a last-minute door opening, but no. Then I was certain it was going to be the driver turning left across Alan's path... wrong again, well, half right I guess.

The left turn into no-look U-turn plot twist certainly wasn't on my radar (and that's even when knowing for sure that something dodgy was going to happen in the 31-second window), so think about how he felt...

 Not particularly fun either way to be fair...

18 October 2023, 13:47
"Going back is not realistic": Councillor stresses "need to change" as Oxford LTNs made permanent – but angry residents say "we can't get on bikes"
18 October 2023, 10:15
Alpe d'Huez summit finish touted for 2024 Tour de France Femmes finale
Tour de France Femmes 2023 (ASO/Thomas Maheux)

[ASO/Thomas Maheux]

Next year's Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift, the third edition of the race, is expected to be decided by an Alpe d'Huez summit finish. That's the belief of Dauphiné Libéré who suggest that the men's race will also include some headline Alpine stages, including one to Valloire over the Col du Galibier, and a final-week trip to Isola 2000 via the 2860m Cime de la Bonette.

Tour de France Femmes 2023 (ASO/Charly Lopez)

[ASO/Charly Lopez]

If correct, the report would signal the Tour de France Femmes' first trip to the Alps, having made its Pyrenean debut this year. Both routes will be officially unveiled a week today in Paris, but stage seven is expected to be a summit finish at Le Grand-Bornand before the Alpe d'Huez finale a day later.

The race will leave Rotterdam as the Dutch city hosts the Tour de France Femmes' first overseas Grand Départ and will include three stages in the Netherlands, the nation of both previous winners Annemiek van Vleuten and Demi Vollering, before returning to French soil on stage four.

18 October 2023, 10:37
Wiggle Chain Reaction owner woes continue following "unjustified" withdrawal of €150m funding commitment by parent company
18 October 2023, 10:07
"Join us to demand action": Cycling protest following two cyclists killed in collisions in London borough
18 October 2023, 09:01
"Today it feels like an epic celebration of my year. I am so ridiculously proud of this": Timmy Mallett cycle tours the Scottish Hebrides... and gives us all travel envy

Timmy Mallett is living the dream...

 

Way to make us all feel jealous. Currently enjoying the Western Isles by bike, and stopping to paint the landscapes, the presenter and broadcaster is one of my favourite Strava follows. I mean just look at all those envy-inducing photos. He offers a daily report too...

"Cycling over 50 miles is tough on any day. Today it feels like an epic celebration of my year. I am so ridiculously proud of this....

Timmy Mallett Strava

"With the sun shining, the Isle of Lewis is at its finest in nine degrees and no wind. I made the effort to make the most of the day. Discipline is not a word I associate with Mallett. I'm far too in the moment.

"Today I left Elaine and Scott at the hotel and only stopped three times in the first mile along stunning Loch Erisort, and barely a dozen or so times before reaching Callanish standing stones 20 miles across the burnt sienna peat bogs and heather of North Lewis. Framed by the mountains of Harris this route undulates with rich brown tones and an eternal vista.

Timmy Mallett Strava

"Deep blue lochs and secret pools intersperse the sheep and occasional village."

Timmy Mallett Strava

 

18 October 2023, 08:33
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18 October 2023, 08:00
"Silent majority" want better cycling and walking infrastructure, campaigner argues

We're kicking off today's live blog with some cycle lane chat... 

Cyclist using segregated cycle lane (Transport for London)

Over in Colchester there's a conversation happening about cycle lane usage, with Colchester Cycling Campaign chair Stuart Johnson making the case for why the figures — obtained through a Freedom of Information request that show cycle lane usage on one popular route dropped by 44 per cent compared with three years ago — aren't actually that bad.

In short, Johnson told the Daily Gazette and Essex County Standard, the baseline figure being used comes from a time when cycling levels were especially high — July 2020, when "people were furloughed, a lot of people were working from home, and traffic on the roads was mostly down, so people felt safer cycling on roads than they do now".

"There happened to be good weather in the lockdown in the spring and summer, and the roads were so much quieter," he added. "Unfortunately, what's happened is that the amount of traffic has picked up again, so we are not surprised that the current numbers of cyclists are lower than they were in July 2020."

Back then (the month of July 2020) there were an average of 478 users per day, however examining and comparing with a 479-day period between May 2022 and August 2023, usage fell to an average of 265 cyclists per day.

Again, Johnson defended the numbers: "Towards the end of August there were 300 cycling trips per day – we think that's very encouraging because the routes at the moment don't join up properly. The next thing is the need to make the lane permanent and make sure it joins up areas like Mile End and the hospital through the city centre.

"When people do actual surveys, like on YouGov, 77 per cent of people support measures to support cycling and walking. There's a silent majority of people wanting to make our streets safer."

You'll get no arguments from us there...

In fact, research from YouGov in November 2020 found that the public overestimates opposition to new bike lanes by 50 per cent. In short, when asked about whether they support schemes to encourage people to cycle or walk, only a fifth (19 per cent) opposed them and a tenth strongly opposed them (10 per cent).

But what about 15-minute cities?

Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.

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panda | 6 months ago
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My grammar is failing me here, but what or who did the falling into disrepair?

"New surface laid at Shrewsbury Sports Village cycle track, scene of Tom Pidcock winning a national cyclocross title before falling into disrepair"

 

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Cugel | 6 months ago
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That's not a decent(ish) bit of cycling infrstructure, its a murder strip. One opened passenger door and .... SPLAT. One very close pass (as opposed to the ordinary and invited close-passes from every driver going past you or that you go past) at the wrong moment and ...... SPLAT.

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HoldingOn | 6 months ago
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I realised my life had taken a weird turn, when I caught myself aspiring to be Timmy Mallett....

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tigersnapper replied to HoldingOn | 6 months ago
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Ha,ha. I read this and thought exactly the same.  What a great life!

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espressodan | 6 months ago
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Why is it always GP surgeries and post boxes?

The things people drive to twice a year, or drive past every day they want within 15 minutes but the things they drive to every day (schools and supermarkets), "no thanks".

Ending car dependancy isn't going to happen with this sort of survey result guiding policy.

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ROOTminus1 replied to espressodan | 6 months ago
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Because if you are unwell enough to need to see the GP, you shouldn't be driving.

I agree that shops for groceries need to be higher on people's priorities

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Hirsute replied to ROOTminus1 | 6 months ago
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Plenty of reasons to go to the GP that have no effect on driving.

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Steve K replied to Hirsute | 6 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Plenty of reasons to go to the GP that have no effect on driving.

Or, indeed, on cycling - but see the responses when one car parking space was replaced with parking for 12 bikes.

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bensynnock replied to Steve K | 6 months ago
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There has been outrage in my local paper because 6 parking spaces are being removed to put in a segregated bike lane. Apparently the local cafe is going to go out of business because people won't park round the corner and walk 20m.

It's a really busy road that is often congested and one of only four routes across the Itchen river here in Southampton, with at least 2 miles to the next closest crossing, which is again a very busy road with no cycle infrastructure.

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marmotte27 replied to espressodan | 6 months ago
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Post boxes because the only people still using them are too old to drive.

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hutchdaddy replied to marmotte27 | 6 months ago
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I suspect that most post boxes are already within a 15 minute walk as most were put in place before the majority of the population had access to a motor vehicle.

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chrisonabike replied to hutchdaddy | 6 months ago
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... but possibly when they had access to bicycles, and used them?

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chrisonabike replied to espressodan | 6 months ago
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espressodan wrote:

Why is it always GP surgeries and post boxes? The things people drive to twice a year, or drive past every day they want within 15 minutes but the things they drive to every day (schools and supermarkets), "no thanks". Ending car dependancy isn't going to happen with this sort of survey result guiding policy.

Maybe.  I've been struck recently looking at a lot of the protests about "LTNs" and "down with this cycle path" kind that lots of the people are older (and often not in good health).

I suspect this is "who has the time" but also what is salient to people.  And we are an ageing population.

So I'm not sure that many people younger than me are mad about post boxes and even less about GPs.  But as we age (and also have the time / inclination to fill in surveys / write to our MP / newspaper) these things start to become a point of note.  Pretty sure my parents generation have got them mapped!

Luckily despite the "it never used to be like this", "I've driven all my life" and "one of those cyclists came whizzing right by me!" responses this may bring this is also an opportunity.  Here's what we could be winning:

https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2013/10/31/elderly-people-on-a-cycle-...

https://www.aarpinternational.org/the-journal/past-editions/the-senior-c...

https://cyclingfallacies.com/en/5/elderly-people-cant-cycle

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Backladder replied to chrisonabike | 6 months ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

espressodan wrote:

Why is it always GP surgeries and post boxes? The things people drive to twice a year, or drive past every day they want within 15 minutes but the things they drive to every day (schools and supermarkets), "no thanks". Ending car dependancy isn't going to happen with this sort of survey result guiding policy.

Maybe.  I've been struck recently looking at a lot of the protests about "LTNs" and "down with this cycle path" kind that lots of the people are older (and often not in good health).

I suspect this is "who has the time" but also what is salient to people.  And we are an ageing population.

So I'm not sure that many people younger than me are mad about post boxes and even less about GPs.  But as we age (and also have the time / inclination to fill in surveys / write to our MP / newspaper) these things start to become a point of note.  Pretty sure my parents generation have got them mapped!

Luckily despite the "it never used to be like this", "I've driven all my life" and "one of those cyclists came whizzing right by me!" responses this may bring this is also an opportunity.  Here's what we could be winning:

https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2013/10/31/elderly-people-on-a-cycle-...

https://www.aarpinternational.org/the-journal/past-editions/the-senior-c...

https://cyclingfallacies.com/en/5/elderly-people-cant-cycle

or even (from the 2023 masters track world championships)

GOLD MEDALLISTS

Men's 45/54 Team Pursuit: IDD Expert (Fra) (Ludovic Montourcy, Jerome Pruvost, Frederic Authouart, Frederic Coste)
Men's 40/44 Points: Chris Kerkdijk, Ned
Men's 65/69 Individual Pursuit: Steve Cronshaw, Gbr
Men's 70/74 Individual Pursuit: Kent Bostick, USA
Men's 75-79 Individual Pursuit: Colin Claxton, NZL
***Men's 80+ Individual Pursuit: Walter Fowler, Gbr***
Women's 44/49 Sprint: Sonja Moi, Norway
Women's 50/54 Sprint: Julie Cooper, Gbr
Women's 55-59 Sprint: Debbie Capewell, Gbr
Women's Sprint 60-64: Julie Barnett, AUS
Women's 65-69 Sprint: Beverley Anderson, AUS
Women's 80+ Sprint: Bonnie Woodbury, USA
Women's 40/44 Sprint: Kristy Howels, Gbr
Women's 35/39 Sprint: Zuzana Rychnovska, Cze

Several riders are currently pushing for an 85+ category as they are no longer competetive in 80+ so who exactly is too old to ride a bike?

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Cugel replied to Backladder | 6 months ago
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Backladder wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

Maybe.  I've been struck recently looking at a lot of the protests about "LTNs" and "down with this cycle path" kind that lots of the people are older (and often not in good health).

(from the 2023 masters track world championships)

GOLD MEDALLISTS

Men's 45/54 Team Pursuit: IDD Expert (Fra) (Ludovic Montourcy, Jerome Pruvost, Frederic Authouart, Frederic Coste)
Men's 40/44 Points: Chris Kerkdijk, Ned
Men's 65/69 Individual Pursuit: Steve Cronshaw, Gbr
Men's 70/74 Individual Pursuit: Kent Bostick, USA
Men's 75-79 Individual Pursuit: Colin Claxton, NZL
***Men's 80+ Individual Pursuit: Walter Fowler, Gbr***
Women's 44/49 Sprint: Sonja Moi, Norway
Women's 50/54 Sprint: Julie Cooper, Gbr
Women's 55-59 Sprint: Debbie Capewell, Gbr
Women's Sprint 60-64: Julie Barnett, AUS
Women's 65-69 Sprint: Beverley Anderson, AUS
Women's 80+ Sprint: Bonnie Woodbury, USA
Women's 40/44 Sprint: Kristy Howels, Gbr
Women's 35/39 Sprint: Zuzana Rychnovska, Cze

Several riders are currently pushing for an 85+ category as they are no longer competetive in 80+ so who exactly is too old to ride a bike?

At aged 74, I seem to be an outlier in the "general fitness" age group, as are a number of cyclist aquaintances in the 65 -85 age category. The vast majority of folk at these ages are decrepit. 

There's nothing genetically special about me or my generally fit cycling acquaintances. The difference is down to lifestyle, in which significant and regular physical activity is a fundamental. Some of my generally fit cycling aquaintances follow standard modern diets with too much sugar, salt and UPF. Two have articial hips and one has an artificial knees, probably from work-related damage. Yet they're still fit, well and able.

The point is that modern lifestyles generally promote physical laziness and addiction to associated pastimes, travel modes and other daily modes that could (and should) be more physically demanding. We didn't evolve sitting in chairs in front of a TV or a steering wheel.

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In the 1950s, Harold Macmillan told the Blighters that they'd never had it so good, meaning there were lots of "comforts and conveniences" to be bought in the shops. He was thinking of junkfud, TV and car, probably. It turns out that this "good" is in practice a serious "bad". It just took a few decades for us to discover this.

The evidence is now rife: decrepid people but preserved by modern medicine; a seriously degraded environment getting so bad that it'll overwhelm all those apparent "comforts and conveniences". Health provision that's more like a very expensive repair service for knackered jalopies than a means to stay healthy.

***********

All the more reason to eschew the car, the TV and the junkfud. All the more reason to encourage, nay insist, that walking and cycling replace the evil car.

Some hope.

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chrisonabike replied to Cugel | 6 months ago
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Well, you've currently got to die from something*...

Best do the more active things now, you can always watch TV and eat dribbly food later.

* I dont think most would be satisfied with living on as a cell culture.

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HoldingOn replied to chrisonabike | 6 months ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

Well, you've currently got to die from something*...

Speak for yourself - I plan to live forever: so far, so good....

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Cugel replied to HoldingOn | 6 months ago
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HoldingOn wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

Well, you've currently got to die from something*...

Speak for yourself - I plan to live forever: so far, so good....

Well, perhaps not forever but I do plan to live long enough (and stay fit enough to enjoy it) at least until I've been retired longer than I worked (spit). One likes to get full benefit from the pension scheme, see?

15 more years to go ......

If that Pukin (or any other crazed denizen of Planet Mordor) ruins my cunning plan with their ordinance, I'll be very cross! But I suppose we might all be dead of weather quite soon ..... .

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hutchdaddy | 6 months ago
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Dorset council gets nil stars. Six years after a school was promised safe routes the school, it's children and their parents are still waiting...
www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/23860110.campaign-get-safe-route-dorchesters-d...

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Cyclo1964 | 6 months ago
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A couple of weeks back I had the misfortune to drive across Colchester at rush hour to get a Windscreen repair ( a long story of changed appointments and available places to get it done) and it seems like a place that is crying out for decent cycling infra. When I came back around 10.30 the place was pretty much clear and I get the feeling most of it is locals shuffling from one part of Colchester to another part ??

I did enjoy the Colchester Magic roundabout......! kiss

 

 

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Hirsute replied to Cyclo1964 | 6 months ago
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Reasons you can't cycle in Colchester

Hills, wind, rain, too far, too much to carry, everyone wants to drive.

Yes, let's all drive as that will make everything work smoothly. Just don't bother with around North Station or the roads around the centre at rush hour as you will be held up by all the cyclists in their packs (a swarm of lotuses (sic)).

 

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stonojnr replied to Cyclo1964 | 6 months ago
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even in a car I do my best to avoid the magic roundabout, it must be an experience on a bicycle.

Station way is a very busy section of road in Colchester, gridlocked in rush hour/school run time, feels hostile even as a pedestrian,its just a short stretch of bollards thats only on one side of the road, that then dumps you back on to another busy roundabout, its not connected to anything that gives you confidence to be able to cycle a safe route.

Im not remotely surprised it doesnt get used alot.

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Hirsute replied to stonojnr | 6 months ago
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There is a convoluted route to get from A to B via shared paths and crossings and subways.

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Hirsute replied to Hirsute | 6 months ago
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This is another route from A to B I was told to take to help the drivist overlords.

Via various shared pathways by an NSL over a crossing and then uphill.

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stonojnr replied to Hirsute | 6 months ago
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I normally walk it North Station Road, past the Victoria Inn, that would be the way I'd try to cycle it too, dodging the deliveroos & scooterists.

But the roads around the station are just full of traffic cones & diversions for road maintenence which is making it far worse currently, you look at it and just think I don't want to cycle through that.

It sums it up at Northern gateway there's that cycle track facility, yet no protected cycle route to get to it even nearby, let alone from the station.

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Hirsute replied to stonojnr | 6 months ago
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You can go up mile end road, through the bus gate, then boxted road to just past cuckoo farm studios where you can pick up a shared path that turns into some sort of service road to come in at the back of the complex.

Less confident folk would walk to the bottom of mile end road and boxted road is quiet but not protected, although has a shared pathway partly along it.

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Moist von Lipwig | 6 months ago
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https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/work-set-start-nort...

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/coastal-cycle-lane-...

 

Tinfoil hats at the ready for the comments....

The one way section mentioned in the first article has alternative roads to get around it and the 'disastrous rake lane scheme' in the second didn't actually take any roadpsace away from cars or change lane allocations (I asume he's actually talking about the rounabout to the north which is problematic as drivers don't actually pay attention to the zebras).  And the southbound Rake Lane cycle track is now gone for a shared use path currently under construction as they're building houses opposite the hospital and have taken the roadspace for a larger rbt for access.

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HoarseMann replied to Moist von Lipwig | 6 months ago
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"Coun Lewis Bartoli said: “If the disastrous cycle scheme at Rake Lane has taught us anything, it is that prioritising a small handful of cyclists over thousands of commuters causes nothing but disruption and congestion and increases in accidents."

Had similar comments against the proposed schemes where I live. They don't seem to realise the 'small handful of cyclists' is due to the lack of safe cycling infrastructure!

The county council had produced some very good proposals, fully adhering to LTN 1/20, and funded by the Active Travel England central budget. Yet our town council threw the whole lot out, with no constructive feedback, because two residents turned up to the meeting and said it might affect parking.

I'm hoping the town council don't actually have as much of a say in this scheme as they think.

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brooksby replied to HoarseMann | 6 months ago
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Here in Bristol there are local councillors complaining about changes proposed to be made to a large main link road from the M5 motorway into the city centre.

The Portway is 50 mph speed limit on most of its length, with a permanent bus lane coming into the city (so, eastbound) and with a footway/cycle path on the other side (so, westbound).  There is one lane for motor traffic eastbound, and - for much of the way - two lanes westbound.

The council is proposing to remove one of the westbound lanes so as to create a new bus lane and to widen the shared-use path but you'd think they wanted to mandate kitten-i-cide, the way people are talking...

And one of the big arguments used: Nobody uses that cycle path anyway so why should we give them more space?

Missing the point that if the path was wider, and there were more bus lanes, then maybe more people might think they didn't need to drive into the city and add to the mile or more traffic queues along there during 'rush hour'...

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bensynnock replied to HoarseMann | 6 months ago
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We get the same in the local paper here in Southampton. I only read it to argue with people about cycling.

The best one is when they talk about some kind of road user who can't get by without their vehicle, such as somebody who is disabled or a tradesman who needs to carry tools in a van. Fair enough, but if the people who didn't fall into those categories didn't drive journeys that they could walk or cycle then those who have no choice would be able to get around much easier.

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