Lamborghini edition Cervelo R5 now available to buy for £18,468

huntswheelers wrote:

It will be best off not ridden.... terrible bikes.... however as a caveat....I've managed to silence them with decent components... my customers will vouch for that

Campag Bora wheels and Super Record EPS disc groupset...in my naivety I'd assume they're reasonably decent components?

There appears to be some confusion here. Campag groupsets and wheels are carbon fibre; extremely strong, light, and well manufactured. Quality concerns tend towards components that use (so) 20th-century aluminium instead, to reduce costs. Inevitably you get what you pay for: https://www.instagram.com/thanksshimano/

HiFi wrote:

There appears to be some confusion here. Campag groupsets and wheels are carbon fibre; extremely strong, light, and well manufactured. Quality concerns tend towards components that use (so) 20th-century aluminium instead, to reduce costs. Inevitably you get what you pay for: https://www.instagram.com/thanksshimano/

I think you may have over-focussed on one component with well-known flaws there. Plenty of other Shimano stuff just works - especially down at the lower end, many of their components will take an awful lot of abuse but somehow keep going. And at least with Shimano you don't need to extend your mortgage quite so far when things do go wrong.

Your remark about aluminium may just betray a lack of materials expertise. There's nothing inherently worse about it - often the right material for the job, and quite handy to be able to bend something back into line rather than shake your head at a gazillion sharp pieces after a knock.

The shimano crank design is flawed - yes. Several shimano UCI Word Tour and Pro Series teams swap them out for FSA or Rotor cranksets instead, I presume for the safety of the riders. But there are both cracked cranks and derailleurs in that link. The problem is not with aluminium per se, but with thin-walled aluminium box sections used in shimano designs. The failed components in the link show how readily these thin walls can tear. Shimano cut their costs (increase their profits) by giving you aluminium painted black (pretend carbon fibre?), and thin-walled box section aluminium is their solution for matching the low weight of carbon fibre, but agreed, it is a flawed approach, and quality/rider safety is compromised. Carbon fibre is the 21st-century material-of-choice for framesets, wheelsets and groupsets.

Sorry, I have to ask but if you've owned ''several Cervelo", so buy more than one if they are badly made? 

That said, I totally agree with, well everyone, 9K extra for a paint job is outragous! ETOE in Germany could custom paint a Cervelo for a tenth of that price.

I only bought one. The other was a warranty replacement for the first one after the bottom bracket came loose. Hence having owned more than one. 

You did say several though not 2.

Ok so he didn't have a shit experience with famously shit Cervelos because he used the wrong word, 11/10 for pedantry

You are missing the point that at least 2 people here could not understand why someone would continue to buy the same product they said was crap.

He said he owned several, then when asked he clarified buying one and receiving another as a replacement, just as you seem to have missed the point