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Police warning as cyclist garroted by rope in woods; Pimlico Plumbers ‘make citizen’s arrest’ of alleged Bentley bashing cyclist; Vine calls for end to “traffic sewer” on Brighton seafront; Evenepoel sick of Eddy Merckx comparisons + more on the live blog

It’s Friday! Jack Sexty is here to provide your lead live blog coverage today with other members of the team chipping in intermittently…
  • by Jack Sexty
Fri, Aug 28, 2020 08:50
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SUMMARY

  • Garmin launches 'Pause Training Status' feature
  • "Why don't you use the cycle lane?"
  • Remco Evenepoel really doesn't like being called 'the new Merckx'. At all.
  • Pimlico Plumbers claim to have made a citizen's arrest on a cyclist who allegedly vandalised their CEO's Bentley
  • Grant Shapps announces "first-of-its-kind" pothole mapping project, using data from Deliveroo and Uber
  • Protestors against London Low Traffic Neighbourhood schemes accused of pouring oil on roads to injure cyclists
  • Jeremy Vine calls for an end to "traffic sewer" on Brighton seafront
  • Scicon launch new Aerowing and Aeroshade sunglasses
  • Extinction Rebellion activists arrested after blocking Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol
  • Cycling Mikey meets a cycling plumber
  • Cycling UK unveil new 350km off-road cycle route in southern England
  • Could this self-charging battery revolutionise e-bikes? NDB's nano-diamond creation could last years without needing to be charged
  • Tour de France socially distanced team presentation ceremony
  • Great Britain para-cyclist Liz Clarke-Saul dies from rare bone cancer
  • Police warning in Thetford after cyclist is garroted by a rope
  • Deceuninck Quick-Step selling 'Wolfpack' baby clothes
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28 August 2020, 08:50

Garmin launches 'Pause Training Status' feature

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garmin training pause (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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If you’re injured or taking a holiday and don’t want Garmin telling you how little training you’ve been doing as if everything was normal, you can now pause your training status completely and leave it paused until you start up again. 

Garmin say there are situations “when tracking your training status can be demotivating or even counterproductive”, so rather than watching your status drain you can just get back on the horse when you’re ready to. Selecting the pause function will also hide feedback such as your VO2 max, fitness trend, 7-day load and recovery time. Daily suggested workouts are also suspended until training status is resumed.  

To use the function on a Garmin Edge cycling computer, simply select ‘My Stats’ from the home screen, press ‘Training Status’ and then select ‘Pause Training Status’.

28 August 2020, 08:50

"Why don't you use the cycle lane?"

Expect you to slam into this kerb? pic.twitter.com/XkwJ25XY9u

— Clockwise (@Clockwisesss) August 28, 2020

Another one for the archives. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Remco Evenepoel really doesn't like being called 'the new Merckx'. At all.

STOP comparing, please!
I’m not like somebody else, nobody is like me. Everybody is just him- or herself and that should be respected.
So just please stop it.
Nobody can be a new version of something he or she has never been and will never be.
Merci.

— Remco Evenepoel (@EvenepoelRemco) August 28, 2020

It appears the 20-year-old Belgian isn’t too keen on the comparisons with the great Eddy Merckx, venting on social media for everyone to “please stop it” with the wild predictions: “Nobody can be a new version of something he or she has never been and will never be”, he says. 

Perhaps a particular interview question or speculative media reporting pushed his buttons, but it’s clear the Deceuninck–Quick-Step rider doesn’t want the pressure and the expectation that will come with being tipped to emulate arguably the greatest cyclist of all time. Some fans aren’t being overly sympathetic on his Twitter page… 

STUPID 🙄

— Remco Evenepoel (@EvenepoelRemco) August 28, 2020

Is the young prodigy (as he’d hate to be called) being a little over sensitive here?

28 August 2020, 08:50

Pimlico Plumbers claim to have made a citizen's arrest on a cyclist who allegedly vandalised their CEO's Bentley

Police take action against bike criminal after Pimlico security team make citizen’s arrest.

Click below for more information 👇 pic.twitter.com/A3chM8HxgB

— Pimlico (@PimlicoPlumbers) August 27, 2020

This strange episode has just got stranger, as Pimlico Plumbers have now published a blog post where they claim to have detained a vandal who allegedly damaged the Bentley that belongs to their chairman Charlie Mullins.

Last week, Pimlico published a video showing the alleged culprit in the act, asking social media to help them track him down. The male cyclist, on a Santander Cycle hire bike, appeared to kick out a wing mirror on the luxury car, but some people accused Pimlico of faking it following a number of anti-cyclist comments made by the company on their website and on social media in recent weeks. 

The statement says: “This morning the Pimlico security team made a citizen’s arrest of the cyclist who made a ride-by attack on Pimlico chairman Charlie Mullins’ Bentley while it was parked outside the company’s Sail Street headquarters.

“Since the mindless act of vandalism last week where the man rode close to the parked car and kicked and damaged its passenger side wing mirror the team has been on the lookout for the criminal responsible and today they were able to stop and hold him as he rode past on another Boris bike.

“The police were called and the culprit is now being dealt with by the authorities after admitting his guilt to the responding officer.” 

Surprised you don’t show the CCTV footage of the citizen arrest you’ve already shown the alleged crime.
Can @metpoliceuk confirm the arrest too as you didn’t strangely tag them to express your gratitude

— Doug Mcfarlane (@DougMcfarlane3) August 27, 2020

And the cycling mafia tried to deny he’d done anything !!!! He admitted his guilt to the police.

— WestminsterDragoon (@DavidThurlow1) August 27, 2020

There has been no confirmation from the police that they are involved other than Pimlico’s word, and some continue to accuse them of staging the act of vandalism; but their ‘supporters’ have hailed this as proof that it wasn’t just a publicity stunt. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Grant Shapps announces "first-of-its-kind" pothole mapping project, using data from Deliveroo and Uber

In addition to fixing roads during lockdown, today I’ve announced a first-of-its-kind pothole mapping project, working with businesses like @Uber @Deliveroo @Ocado @Tesco to target nuisance potholes & make roads safer for everyone as people return to the office and school 🛣️🚗🚴 pic.twitter.com/MrlPVQ1ynd

— Rt Hon Grant Shapps MP (@grantshapps) August 28, 2020

The Transport Secretary says that the government have enlisted the help of companies such as Uber and Deliveroo to combat potholes. Information published at midnight on gov.uk says that mapping data will be used from these businesses to identify hotspots for repairs, and the work will be accelerated ahead of schools going back next week to make roads safer for cyclists and motorists. They also claim 319 miles worth of resurfacing works have taken place during lockdown, made possible by the quieter roads. 

Not everyone is quite so enthusiastic… 

Why don’t you try and construct proper roads in the first place, so you don’t need to spend so much taxpayers money on repairs. Just take other EU countries as an example. Oh wait, we’ve just turned our back on all those…

— Alex 🇳🇱🇪🇺🇬🇧🇵🇱 (@Mul_Alexander) August 28, 2020

I’ll believe it when I see it.

How about funding councils properly in the first place?

— Daniel Winter (@dcwinter) August 28, 2020

If you want to report potholes, you can go directly to the Highways Agency or use apps such as Fill That Hole and FixMyStreet. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Protestors against London Low Traffic Neighbourhood schemes accused of pouring oil on roads to injure cyclists

Please be careful when cycling along Midhurst Ave today, contractors have applied some absorbent material to the carriageway to soak up the oil. @EalingCyclists @SpacePootler @darrenmoore @jamesinealing pic.twitter.com/wfjeLeJnrH

— Robin Williamson 🚴‍♀️ 🎸🚂 🇪🇺 (@stuntbutt) August 28, 2020

If true, it appears people who have a problem with lower levels of rat-running traffic in their neighbourhood have sunk to a new level of cowardice and stupidity, as there have been various reports of oil on roads where planters have been installed to prevent through traffic in London.  

This is the oil poured on Midhurst Road and there is more on Northcroft Road. I’m not connected to any cycling groups but please can anyone who is warn cyclists? @metcc @envagency @xrealing @saddleblaze @spacepootler @cathrosepg @rbourchier @darrenmoore @standardnews pic.twitter.com/Rrja1vYVmc

— Ellie Lock (@ellielockx) August 27, 2020

Full story to follow.

28 August 2020, 08:50

Jeremy Vine calls for an end to "traffic sewer" on Brighton seafront

Let’s be honest, anyone who has visited #Brighton despairs at that traffic sewer that runs alongside the beach. This is probably the moment to close the filthy seafront road completely and let this beautiful town breathe its own sea air at last. pic.twitter.com/99kR8rvGoD

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) August 27, 2020

The broadcaster didn’t mince his words when giving his opinion on the future of Brighton’s seafront, which controversially had a 600m section of cycle lane removed yesterday because of concerns over congestion. The council’s lead member for transport Pete West told The Argus: “Congestion on this stretch has had a knock-on for major bus routes and delays to bus journey times – that is unacceptable.”

Of course another way to reduce the congestion would be for people to stop driving so much, but that appears to be a step too far and Brightonians remain bitterly divided over the issue… 

I’m from Brighton (born & bred) and I’d like:
– more and better cycle lanes
– more restrictions on cars in town
– better bus routes to help speed up the bus services across town.

— Abigail Dombey (@AbigailDombey) August 27, 2020

28 August 2020, 08:50

Scicon launch new Aerowing and Aeroshade sunglasses

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scicon aerowing shades (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
scicon aerowing shades
scicon aerowing shades (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The new shades have dropped on the eve of the Tour de France, with Team Emirates, Israel Start-Up Nation and NTT Pro Cycling all rocking Scicon eyewear for Le Tour. 

Both are wide and retro-looking as seems to be the norm nowadays, and the Aerowing has a ‘rimless cylindrical shield’ on the face with a vented brow construction to allow for extra airflow.

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scicon aeroshade (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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scicon aeroshade (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Scicon claim the Aeroshade’s Horizon Adapt system is the world’s first height adjustable nose pad, which allows riders to tailor the field of vision depending on their preferred riding position with a push or pull on the nose piece. Like the Aerowing, they have interchangeable lenses that are impact resistant with 100% UV protection.

 

 

 

The Aerowing is priced at £160 and the Aeroshade is £170, both are available now through Scicon’s website and numerous retailers. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Extinction Rebellion activists arrested after blocking Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol

THE REBELLION HAS BEGUN.

Two @xryouthbristol members have locked on the the iconic Bristol suspension bridge. @XRebellionUK @ExtinctionR @XRBristol pic.twitter.com/DCe5Kxdr73

— Extinction Rebellion Youth (@XrYouth) August 27, 2020

Avon and Somerset Police say two females were arrested at 11pm last night on suspicion of wilful obstruction of the highway and conspiracy to cause a public nuisance… and now the police are closing the bridge to all vehicles, cyclists and pedestrians for four days in response.

Site is fully set up with stage and first workshop is now beginning! Come on down 🙂 pic.twitter.com/FkoJlf5J7p

— XRYouth UK (@xryouthuk) August 28, 2020

Extinction Rebellion (XR) are reportedly planning a four day protest, with the Bristol Post reporting that they plan to block motor traffic with an elephant and take over “key sites” in Bristol. XRYouth UK said on their Twitter account: “Police last night took the decision to completely close the Clifton Suspension Bridge, for potentially up to 4 days. XR Youth intended to close it from 7 – 4 for traffic while remaining open to pedestrians and bikes. As a result of the closure we are now by the bridge entrance.” 

XR Youth are also holding ‘socially distanced events’ at the site of the Suspension Bridge, erecting a transportable stage and running workshops on the subject of the climate crisis. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Cycling Mikey meets a cycling plumber

I got to meet the awesome Shane Topley, cycling plumber. He does heading too. 07973 558 426. Much better option than cycle-hating Pimlico Plumbers. pic.twitter.com/ucLrVkNU9S

— ⚫ CyclingMikey aka Bike Gandalf 🇪🇺🇳🇱🇿🇼 (@MikeyCycling) August 27, 2020

With a not-so-subtle dig at Pimlico Plumbers, the camera cyclist shows that a plumber can indeed trade without needing a van for the vast majority of jobs.

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bristol pedal powered plumbing (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

For those based in the south west, there’s also Pedal Powered Plumbing of Bristol – the website can be found here. Feel free to post more cycle-friendly plumber recommendations in the comments below. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Cycling UK unveil new 350km off-road cycle route in southern England

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cycling uk king alfreds way launch photos (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The King Alfred’s Way loops takes riders on an adventure through Surrey, Hampshire, Wiltshire and Berkshire, featuring gravel tracks and trails with plenty of ups and downs. If you decide to make an epic weekend/week of it and take on the whole route you’ll pass Stonehenge, the Avebury and Iron Age hill forts at Old Sarum and Barbury Castle while taking in some quintessential English countryside.

Cycling UK say they’ve spent three years working on the route, which connects the North Downs Way, South Downs Way, Ridgeway and Thames Path. Some sections were upgraded to allow cycling on existing footpaths, and existing bridleways, byways and quiet country lanes were also added in.

Cycling UK’s campaign officer Sophie Gordon commented: “The pandemic has understandably changed the British public’s appetite for foreign travel but with King Alfred’s Way we’re hoping to at least quench its thirst for adventure.

“There’s no need to fly or, for many, even travel far for a challenging trip. King Alfred’s Way is 220 miles of literal ups and downs looping through a quintessential southern England made up of thatched cottages, Iron Age hill forts and stone circles.”

You can find the online route map here. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Could this self-charging battery revolutionise e-bikes? NDB's nano-diamond creation could last years without needing to be charged

ndb battery - via ndb
ndb battery - via ndb (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
ndb battery - via ndb
ndb battery – via ndb (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Could charging your phone, e-bike and electric car become a thing of the past? Read more about this potential battery breakthrough from US tech company NDB over on eBikeTips. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Tour de France socially distanced team presentation ceremony

An eyewitness clip of ISN’s @LeTour presentation ceremony , brought to you by our own @Neilands_K . The best angle in the house! pic.twitter.com/RBSWjmoyZg

— Israel Start-Up Nation / Israel Cycling Academy (@YallaIsraelSUN) August 28, 2020

Presentación de equipos en Niza, las tres semanas más intensas de la temporada empiezan mañana!

Team presentation in Nice, the three most intense weeks of the season start tomorrow!@LeTour @Movistar_Team 📸 @bettiniphoto pic.twitter.com/iyVhYxjc1b

— Enric Mas Nicolau (@EnricMasNicolau) August 28, 2020

Compared to the party that road.cc attended in Brussels last year, things were obviously quite different at the 2020 ceremony in Nice, with spectators and media sat apart at a safe distance. Find out all your need to know about the Tour that nearly never happened in our stage-by-stage guide. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Great Britain para-cyclist Liz Clarke-Saul dies from rare bone cancer

It is with great sadness that we received the news that para-cyclist Liz Clarke-Saul has passed away. The thoughts of everyone at British Cycling are with Liz’s family and friends.

Read the full tribute here: https://t.co/0VqefGlvLB pic.twitter.com/VM4IdO1q4H

— British Cycling (@BritishCycling) August 28, 2020

British Cycling say in their statement that Clarke-Saul passed away on 20th July, having suffered from a highly rare bone cancer called adamantinoma since the age of 12. After having her leg amputated because of the cancer age 14, Clarke-Saul joined the Great Britain para-cycling team in 2014, competing in the 2015 and 2016 Para-Cycling Track World Championships. Her cancer returned in 2018 and was incurable, which prevented her from competing at the 2018 UCI Road World Championships. 

British Cycling’s Head of Para-cycling Jon Pett said: “Liz was a valued member of the para-cycling squad since she joined us in June 2014, and I know I speak for all of the para-cycling staff when I say she was a pleasure to work with.

“She was a great person to have on the team – always happy, always upbeat and an amazing attitude towards life, despite everything she was facing.

“The Great Britain team riders and staff who worked with Liz have been saddened by the news, but I know it will make us more determined than ever to perform to the best of our ability, in Liz’s memory. Our thoughts at this time are with Liz’s husband Jack and her family.”

To find out more about the Liz Clarke-Saul fund to raise money to support pioneering research into adamantinoma, click here. 

28 August 2020, 08:50

Police warning in Thetford after cyclist is garroted by a rope

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edinburgh way thetford - via google street view (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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edinburgh way thetford – via google street view (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

In yet another depressing incident of extreme violence that appears to be aimed at cyclists, Norfolk Police have issued a warning after a cyclist was garroted by a rope strung between trees. 

Police say the 25-year-old man was left with “extensive lacerations” across his neck after falling victim to the trap in woods next to Edinburgh Way in Thetford. Shockingly, wood containing nails was also placed at head height down alleyways that are regularly used by cyclists from Edinburgh Way and Durham Way used by cyclists.

PC Nike Harris commented: “We are concerned as these throughways are sometimes used by cyclists on their way to from work. We do not know why the rope and wood has been put in place but it may be in attempt to discourage cyclists and bikers.

“We would ask you report anti-social behaviour in the areas to police rather than take matters into your own hands if this is the case. Although we know these routes are not strictly meant for cyclists or bikers we do not want to find people are being seriously injured.”

Norfolk Police have asked anyone with information to contact PC Harris on 101, quoting crime reference 36/60081/20.

28 August 2020, 08:50

Deceuninck Quick-Step selling 'Wolfpack' baby clothes

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deceuninck quick-step baby clothes (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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deceuninck quick-step baby clothes (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

After their ‘Back to School’ range launched recently, Quick-Step’s merchandise push appears to know no bounds with their new Wolfpack Baby collection. There are baby socks, bibs (as in a bib bib, not bib shorts) and a romper available, with the latter featuring ‘TheLittleWolf’ embroidered across the front, with a number on the back just like the pros in races. 

All are for sale now on the Deceuninck Quick-Step website.  

28 August 2020, 08:50

Other side of the world, same problems with rubbish driving

Near Miss of the Day 465: NZ bus driver in punishment pass

Near Miss of the Day 465: NZ bus driver in punishment pass

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country and beyond - today it's New Zealand

28 August 2020, 08:50

The same, but different...

Are the bikes the pros ride in the Tour de France the same as you can buy in the shops?

Are the bikes the pros ride in the Tour de France the same as you can buy in the shops?

Tour de France tech questions: how the pros’ bikes are the same… but different

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66 thoughts on “Police warning as cyclist garroted by rope in woods; Pimlico Plumbers ‘make citizen’s arrest’ of alleged Bentley bashing cyclist; Vine calls for end to “traffic sewer” on Brighton seafront; Evenepoel sick of Eddy Merckx comparisons + more on the live blog”

  1. brooksby
    August 28, 2020 at 9:23 am
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    Why is twitterer Clockwise

    Why is twitterer Clockwise wearing one brown and one black shoe?

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    • mdavidford
      August 28, 2020 at 9:45 am
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      Because they’re “Like a

      Because they’re “Like a maverick only different.” Apparently.

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    • nniff
      August 28, 2020 at 9:49 am
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      I think he has ‘a thing’.  In

      I think he has ‘a thing’.  In his profile he is wearing one red and one blue.  

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      August 28, 2020 at 9:55 am
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      With the actual lane though,

      With the actual lane though, I’m guessing the drop kerb installtion team are well behind the splash car proof paint on the floor team. I wonder when the shared path sign erection team will arrive to drop the pole at just level where the cyclists would mount the pavement. 

      Edit. Looks like it is a oneway road with new added contraflow. That top end looks like it could be abit tight.
       

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  2. AlsoSomniloquism
    August 28, 2020 at 10:11 am
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    Re: Pimilico. So if he DID IT

    Re: Pimilico. So if he DID IT etc, to ride past again seemed strange unless he just had not seen the news from before. Also, a citizens arrest is very vague and they could easily have been done for holding someone against there will. But as the owner parks his car illegally anyway I suppose that is something they will be let off for.

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    • the little onion
      August 28, 2020 at 10:24 am
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      The stench of bulls**t is

      The stench of bulls**t is very strong on this story. I’m definately not inclined to believing conspiracy theories, but this has more holes than a swiss cheese.

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      • David9694
        August 28, 2020 at 10:59 am
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        If you start out with a pack

        If you start out with a pack of lies, it’s very hard to stop as the falsehoods unravel.

        An encore here for the actor concerned?

        Come on Met Police, tell us what’s really going on here!

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    • Rick_Rude
      August 28, 2020 at 10:26 am
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      It’s just crap attempt at

      It’s just crap attempt at some internet advertising. It also just proves how gullible people are. Same people that will get ripped off when their ‘reverse flow pipe actuator’ needs placing at great cost.

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      • wtjs
        August 28, 2020 at 1:53 pm
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        It’s just crap attempt at

        It’s just crap attempt at some internet advertising. It also just proves how gullible people are. 

        Re: The Plumbers. That was a name for a covert White House Special Investigations Unit, established during the presidency of Richard Nixon and which led to Watergate. It appears to me that the present Plumbers are displaying commensurate levels of truthfulness. We all know that getting any action out of the police for close passing, red-light crashing etc. requires photographic proof for it to get beyond the incident number allocation stage.  Therefore The Plumbers would have had to prove to the police that an offence had been committed- a load of disputable pictures which do not include at least this minimal proof that the  wing mirror was damaged would get nowhere- and that’s even before you get to the stage of proving that this ‘cyclist’ did it. It seems improbable that The Plumbers would not include the damage ‘proof’ in all the publicity, if they had it. The police, of course, are not obliged to tell us anything- so it’s up toThe Plumbers to give us some convincing evidence that their story is being acted upon by the police before we need to take  their crude attempts seriously. For now, it’s safe to assume it’s a rather pathetic con.

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    • EddyBerckx
      August 28, 2020 at 10:28 am
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      AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

      Re: Pimilico. So if he DID IT etc, to ride past again seemed strange unless he just had not seen the news from before. Also, a citizens arrest is very vague and they could easily have been done for holding someone against there will. But as the owner parks his car illegally anyway I suppose that is something they will be let off for.

      — AlsoSomniloquism

      As well as being made up…was the footage really good enough for them to do this arrest? And for him to immediately confess?

      Pimlico plumbers were widely hated in non cycling circles before this btw, let’s not make it a cyclists vs dickheads argument

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  3. Hirsute
    August 28, 2020 at 10:26 am
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    A bit daft to attempt a
    A bit daft to attempt a citizen’s arrest on an unknown individual who vaguely matches a grainy CCTV picture. Could lead to charges of assault.
    (If any of it happened).

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    • Rick_Rude
      August 28, 2020 at 10:57 am
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      The owner looks like an

      The owner looks like an Aliexpress Alan Sugar. LOL at those two ‘security’ men. Very scary.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        August 28, 2020 at 11:10 am
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        Thats the head of security in

        Thats the head of security in the centre, the owners appearence is like a plastic-wrapped Rod Stewart Lookalike contest entry.

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  4. DoomeFrog
    August 28, 2020 at 11:44 am
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    Good to get more active on
    Good to get more active on potholes, but why oh why do councils insist of throwing tonnes of gravel onto nice quiet lanes perfect for cycling in the name of road repairs..

    I had to hold on tight yesterday on a descent with upto 15% sections covered in dressed stones.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      August 28, 2020 at 11:50 am
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      The troble is how will they

      The trouble is how will they detect them. If it is something like SEE Sense where it monitors via a giro, then it can easily throw false positives or miss ones that the vans don’t hit or react to. (the long skinny cracks just the right width for a 30C tyre for example). 

      And if it uses laser measuting of some description, how far across the road will it “see”. Again some of the worst ones are next to drainage covers which some cyclists cycle by too close giving the car overlords more space so they are spared any wrath and judgement. 

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    • brooksby
      August 28, 2020 at 12:48 pm
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      Not just on nice quiet lanes.

      Not just on nice quiet lanes.

      Bristol CC have just road-dressed Queens Road in Clifton.

      This is what it looks like on Streetview (before road dressing, obviously, because you can’t see the drifts of loose gravel…):

       

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    • Winchman
      August 28, 2020 at 6:29 pm
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      I fully agree with you. I

      I fully agree with you. I suspect the contractor gets paid by the length of road dressed. So quiet country roads are easy money for them. They will also leave the harder roads till last. Around here, the roundabouts are awful, full of holes that occasionally get splatted with a spade full and then slapped a few times. It’s not great dodging the holes and the drivers.

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  5. brooksby
    August 28, 2020 at 12:06 pm
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    I thought you had to do a

    I thought you had to do a citizens arrest there and then – I didn’t realise that you could run a full citizens investigation, then a citizens stakeout, and only then do a citizens arrest…

    Isn’t that called just being a vigilante?

    (Or a liar, in this case…).

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    • IanMK
      August 28, 2020 at 12:19 pm
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      I think you’re correct:

      I think you’re correct:

      Section 24 PACE 1984

      Arrest without warrant: other persons

      (1)A person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant—

      (a)anyone who is in the act of committing an indictable offence;

      (b)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an indictable offence.

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      • Hirsute
        August 28, 2020 at 12:51 pm
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        I see on the Twitter thread

        I see on the Twitter thread they refuse to accept this as law.

        Someone else claims there is a de minimus amount for criminal damage and so a citizen’s arrest was not lawful in if caught in the act and not a week later.

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      • eburtthebike
        August 28, 2020 at 1:17 pm
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        IanMK wrote:

        I think you’re correct:

        Section 24 PACE 1984

        Arrest without warrant: other persons

        (1)A person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant—

        (a)anyone who is in the act of committing an indictable offence;

        (b)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an indictable offence.

        — IanMK

        Clearly none of this applies to a militia group like Pimlico Security.  I look forward to reading about them being sued for illegal arrest.

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        • Hirsute
          August 28, 2020 at 1:33 pm
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          Why do they need security
          Why do they need security anyhow ???

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          • CyclingInGawler
            August 28, 2020 at 10:57 pm
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            I wonder how many customers’

            I wonder how many customers’ (I’m sure entirely-reasonable but nonetheless deeply resented) call-out charges went to pay for said Bentley? Perhaps that’s why they feel the need for security.

        • AlsoSomniloquism
          August 28, 2020 at 1:37 pm
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          Quote:

          Section 24 PACE 1984

          Arrest without warrant: other persons

          (1)A person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant—

          (a)anyone who is in the act of committing an indictable offence;

          (b)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be committing an indictable offence.

          (2)Where an indictable offence has been committed, a person other than a constable may arrest without a warrant—

          (a)anyone who is guilty of the offence;

          (b)anyone whom he has reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it.

          (3)But the power of summary arrest conferred by subsection (1) or (2) is exercisable only if—

          (a)the person making the arrest has reasonable grounds for believing that for any of the reasons mentioned in subsection (4) it is necessary to arrest the person in question; and

          (b)it appears to the person making the arrest that it is not reasonably practicable for a constable to make it instead.

          (4)The reasons are to prevent the person in question—

          (a)causing physical injury to himself or any other person;

          (b)suffering physical injury;

          (c)causing loss of or damage to property; or

          (d)making off before a constable can assume responsibility for him.

          In the interest of fairness, I have added the rest of that section and highlighted the three bits that potentially make it legal. However I’ve also undelined the one that probably doesn’t. Unless his wing mirror costs more then £5000, it is not indictable I believe. (Although it is a pissing bentley so who knows).

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          • Hirsute
            August 28, 2020 at 1:55 pm
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            I don’t think a week after
            I don’t think a week after you can claim ‘reasonable grounds for suspecting to be guilty of it’ based on a CCTV image which could be any old bod.
            Was there any evidence of a broken mirror ?

          • StuInNorway
            August 28, 2020 at 2:40 pm
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            hirsute wrote:

            based on a CCTV image which could be any old bod. Was there any evidence of a broken mirror ?

            — hirsute

            Given their otherwise clear and crisp CCTV switches to an extremely blurry snapshot for the “moment of impact” which appears to be to hide the fact there was no contact, NO there is no evidence of a damaged mirror.
            Watching the video, the cyclist never wobble, the pedestrian crossing the road never looked around to see what the noise was. I cannot see there was any damage.

  6. squired
    August 28, 2020 at 12:26 pm
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    I don’t know if they have

    I don’t know if they have fixed it now, but less than 50 metres from the location of photo of the cycle lane in Croydon there is another issue.  They have two cycle lanes side by side, with the arrows telling cyclists heading south to use the right hand lane.  At the other end of the cycle lane about 100 metres on the cyclist riding north are directed to ride in the same cycle lane).  Thus if people ride in the lanes the paint tells them to ride in they will have head on collisions.  I did email the council about it, but have had no response. Clearly the people installing the lanes in Croydon don’t really think….

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  7. IanMK
    August 28, 2020 at 12:34 pm
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    Surely, Brighton Pavillions

    Surely, Brighton Pavillions is a Green Party seat and Brighton and Hove UA are controlled by the Greens. How can someone think this is just a “tiny minority of weirdo greenies, that more often than not aren’t even from Brighton”.

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    • Zigster
      August 28, 2020 at 2:55 pm
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      I think their “complaint” is

      I think their “complaint” is that those pesky Green voters aren’t real Brightonians as they don’t come from Brighton and are only there studying for a few years.  No true Brightonian would want clearer, less polluted roads …

      I live just north of Brighton (not born there so my views don’t count, of course) and it’s a traffic mess and has been for years.  A few bike lanes aren’t going to have suddenly created congestion.

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  8. mdavidford
    August 28, 2020 at 1:25 pm
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    All normal Bristolians want.

    All normal Bristolians want. Is to understand. How to use punctuation?

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    • brooksby
      August 28, 2020 at 1:36 pm
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      Punctuation? Difficult, it is

      Punctuation? Difficult, it is.

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      • FluffyKittenofTindalos
        August 29, 2020 at 10:33 pm
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        The considerate thing to do

        The considerate thing to do would be to stop and ask if they are in need of a punctuation repair kit.

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    • eburtthebike
      August 28, 2020 at 3:04 pm
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      mdavidford wrote:

      All normal Bristolians want. Is to understand. How to use punctuation?

      — mdavidford

      There was a prog on R4 yesterday about punctuation; apparently it’s threatening.no

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      • brooksby
        August 29, 2020 at 6:14 am
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        eburtthebike wrote:

        All normal Bristolians want. Is to understand. How to use punctuation?

        — eburtthebike

        There was a prog on R4 yesterday about punctuation; apparently it’s threatening.no

        — mdavidford

        In what way is punctuation threatening? And, threatening to whom?

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        • eburtthebike
          August 29, 2020 at 9:07 am
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          brooksby wrote:

          All normal Bristolians want. Is to understand. How to use punctuation?

          — brooksby

          There was a prog on R4 yesterday about punctuation; apparently it’s threatening.no

          — eburtthebike

          In what way is punctuation threatening? And, threatening to whom?

          — mdavidford

          I was only half listening, but in twitland, where punctuation is rare, using it is threatening.

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        • mdavidford
          August 29, 2020 at 11:02 am
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          brooksby wrote:

          In what way is punctuation threatening? And, threatening to whom?

          — brooksby

          Full stops in text messages, specifically. Apparently the younger generation (*sound the sweeping generalisation klaxon*) who’ve grown up not using them see them as conveying aggression (presumably in messages to each other – I don’t imagine they think granny is being aggressive when she texts them “Happy birthday, dear.”).

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          • Hirsute
            August 29, 2020 at 5:54 pm
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            We are the knights who say

            We are the knights who say ‘full stop’.

          • brooksby
            August 29, 2020 at 9:27 pm
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            Really? They’d hate me, then.

            Really? They’d hate me, then. My text messages usually have full stops, semicolons, and the Oxford comma.

  9. swldxer
    August 28, 2020 at 1:55 pm
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    It’s a DOOR mirror, not a

    It’s a DOOR mirror, not a “wing” mirror.

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    • quiff
      August 28, 2020 at 4:58 pm
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      Are we really going here

      Are we really going here again, so soon?

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    • giff77
      August 29, 2020 at 6:15 am
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      swldxer wrote:

      It’s a DOOR mirror, not a “wing” mirror.

      — swldxer

      i see the needle is still stuck. 

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  10. brooksby
    August 28, 2020 at 3:52 pm
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    On the King Alfred’s Way,

    On the King Alfred’s Way, there was an article about it in today’s Grauniad.

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/aug/28/like-cycling-through-history-220-mile-king-alfreds-way-launched

    My favourite bit was

    Gordon and her party had to cross a shallow ford because a footbridge was blocked.

    I mean – this new route has just opened, with the Cycling UK imprimatur no less, and the journalist reporting on it had to walk through a ford because a footbridge was blocked?

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      August 28, 2020 at 4:26 pm
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      Not the journo, the press

      Not the journo, the press officer for Cycling UK.

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    • HarrogateSpa
      August 28, 2020 at 7:52 pm
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      There’s a place for rough,

      There’s a place for rough, off-road rides, but I really wish they would concentrate their efforts on accessible-to-all traffic-free tarmacked paths.

      They would have a much wider appeal and draw more people into riding bikes.

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      • ktache
        August 28, 2020 at 8:39 pm
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        The Route along the cyclable

        The Route along the cyclable part of the Thames Path from Reading to Goring has some proper off road sections, there is a valley just after Whitchurch that is stepped on one side, almost unrideable up or down.  And the Ridgeway, I’m very pleased I had 2 inch knobblies and it was almost bone dry when I rode it.

        I like the idea of the route and will at some point ride south from Reading to Farnham, easy train back from North Camp.

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        • TheBillder
          August 29, 2020 at 9:45 am
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          NR 68 in Northumberland has
          NR 68 in Northumberland has some very tricky areas which for my tiny level of off road skill needs chunky tyres. Even on my gravel bike, admittedly with quite a worn rear tyre, I had to walk up from one ford a few weeks ago. I was with my son who had his road bike with 25mm slicks and road shoes – he didn’t even bother trying to ride up.

          What it would be like with a laden tourer, or recumbent or something, I can only imagine. It would be useful to have more information on route signs if the path is unsuitable for road bikes. But then the signage needs a lot of improvement across the network and that isn’t cheap.

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      • wycombewheeler
        August 28, 2020 at 8:49 pm
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        HarrogateSpa wrote:

        There’s a place for rough, off-road rides, but I really wish they would concentrate their efforts on accessible-to-all traffic-free tarmacked paths.

        They would have a much wider appeal and draw more people into riding bikes.

        — HarrogateSpa

        can’t it be both? the budget for constructing and maintaining tarmac cycle routes will be barely touched by creation of this route which is mostly research and discussions with landowners.

        certainly they could not create a route of this scale in the manner you suggest, without major government funding.

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      • brooksby
        August 28, 2020 at 10:00 pm
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        I like tarmac.

        I like tarmac.

        Every time I ride on the Pill Path out of Bristol I think “I’m sure its not as bad as I remember” and every time, it is.

        Did I say I like tarmacced surfaces…?

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      • TheBillder
        August 29, 2020 at 9:46 am
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        Isn’t that place the Stray
        Isn’t that place the Stray after the world championships set it all up for ungrateful locals?

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    • brooksby
      August 28, 2020 at 9:58 pm
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      My bad

      My bad 🙁

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    • muhasib
      August 29, 2020 at 1:01 am
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      The route goes right past my
      The route goes right past my front window in Farnham and there is a permanent locked gate at the end of the street to stop rat running which means getting off to go round on the pavement. It was put in ten years ago and still most days there is traffic that has to reverse to back out. There is also a subway crossing under the A325 they appear to use that is cycling prohibited as well. I’m quite looking forward to trying the route as I have a natural start and end point.

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  11. wycombewheeler
    August 28, 2020 at 4:17 pm
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    Surely the biggest question
    Surely the biggest question us why is the person taking photos of the cycle lane kerb trap wearing odd shoes?

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      August 28, 2020 at 4:24 pm
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      Literally first post in the

      Literally first post in the comments wycombe.

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  12. AlsoSomniloquism
    August 28, 2020 at 4:22 pm
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    Quote:

    PC Nike Harris commented: “We are concerned as these throughways are sometimes used by cyclists on their way to from work. We do not know why the rope and wood has been put in place but it may be in attempt to discourage cyclists and bikers.

    Funny, being as it caused serious injuries and could have lead to a death, I would suggest it is there to kill and not to discourage and when the culprit is found, they should be charged with attempted murder. 

    And anyone sent the story to Rob Liddle yet? I’m sure he might reward the offender.

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    • Eton Rifle
      August 28, 2020 at 4:37 pm
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      With those powers of
      With those powers of deduction, he’s not going to make detective any time soon, is he?

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      • Awavey
        August 28, 2020 at 7:23 pm
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        I would read that as the

        I would read that as the police are aware of some local tensions about use (or should that be misuse) of that part of woodland, and the cyclist was unfortunately caught up in whatevers been going on there of late. I dont beleive its an anti cycling thing fwiw.

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  13. spen
    August 28, 2020 at 5:23 pm
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    Pimlico are now claiming that

    Pimlico are now claiming that the perp has agreed to pay for damages so they will not prosecute him, thought that was the cps’ job, conveniently. 

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    • Hirsute
      August 28, 2020 at 5:38 pm
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      But they handed him over to

      But they handed him over to the Police, so nothing to do with the Plumbers what happens to the alleged criminal.

      Any news on the illegal parking ?

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        August 28, 2020 at 8:45 pm
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        I don’t know, I believe they,

        I don’t know, I believe they, as alledged victims could tell the police not to take it any further. It does depend on the crime though but I think they also realised they could be looking at costs and potentially counter damages depending on how the Citizens Arrest was potentially performed. 

        I’m treating the whole thing as potentially really happened rather then definitely fake though until proven one way or the other. However I would also like to know about the parking, but that is council enforcement and not Police.

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    • wtjs
      August 28, 2020 at 5:47 pm
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      Pimlico are now claiming that

      Pimlico are now claiming that the perp has agreed to pay for damages so they will not prosecute him

      Still looks like an inept con. I wonder if the plumbing is as bad?

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      • eburtthebike
        August 29, 2020 at 9:02 am
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        wtjs wrote:

        Pimlico are now claiming that the perp has agreed to pay for damages so they will not prosecute him

        Still looks like an inept con. I wonder if the plumbing is as bad?

        — wtjs

        We need someone in the security office to leak.

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        • TheBillder
          August 29, 2020 at 9:35 am
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          The truth needs to be flushed
          The truth needs to be flushed out.

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  14. wtjs
    August 28, 2020 at 8:32 pm
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    King Alfred’s Way: Excellent!

    King Alfred’s Way: Excellent! I’ll go and do it- it’s several decades since I walked the South Downs Way, and I’ve hardly been round the area since. Surreptitious campsites may require all my clandestine skills.

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  15. Rome73
    August 29, 2020 at 6:59 am
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    Couple of things. Councils

    Couple of things. Councils must stand strong in the face of opposition to LTNs. The only thing that would improve active travel is political will. 

    Second thing – that photo of the Pimlico Plumbers ‘security team’ looks a bit Village People. You can easily imagine a feathered headdress, a biker’s helmet, a workman’s tool . . . . . . Anyone any good with photoshop? 

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    • markieteeee
      August 29, 2020 at 7:56 am
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      I’m lucky enough for my

      I’m lucky enough for my street to have become a LTN as part of these measures. All they have to do is listen to the residents, which they are doing via the ongoing online consultation during the trial.  Even those who initially opposed it or were against it in principle are now seeing the benefits of cleaner air, less noise and no fast/aggressive traffic in the neighbourhood, easier parking.

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  16. wtjs
    August 30, 2020 at 7:14 pm
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     although I thought the

     although I thought the superfluous comma in your second sentence was sacrilegious to the English language

    Not as heinous as the crimes against spelling and grammar exhibited by the complainant.

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Rendel Harris 5 minutes ago

@mitsky Just checking the figures and apparently the 2026 average cost is £58,000 per year per prisoner; worth noting that is only the direct cost, you then have to factor in ten years of lost tax income from the prisoner, ten years that the prisoner is making no contribution to society as a worker or as a consumer, plus the fact that if they were the primary breadwinner very likely the costs will include benefits for their family as well. None of which should be a reason for keeping violent recidivists out of prison of course, nor drug/drink drivers who kill, but it is a factor worth considering for lower-level offences.

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Rendel Harris 13 minutes ago

@Surreyrider I ride in Surrey a fair bit and absolutely many do look like that but the point is they all *think* they're driving perfectly reasonably (as one discovers when remonstrating with someone who's skimmed one by 30cm, "I gave you masses of room") so deterrent penalties have little effect. That's why we need to strike at the root cause and actually train drivers properly and test them stringently (and more than once over the course of a potential 70+ years of driving, it's absolutely absurd that competence and knowledge in what for most people is the activity in their life that will run the biggest risk of killing people you never have to have your qualifications renewed).

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Rendel Harris 22 minutes ago

@mitsky Imprisonment currently costs over £50k p.a. per prisoner and obviously that will rise over the course of a ten-year stretch with inflation. Regarding culpability and mitigating sentences etc, of course I'm not against condign punishment for drivers who kill (and cyclists on the tiny, tiny handful of occasions when this happens), including prison as appropriate; I was objecting to the ridiculous and oft-repeated demand of MM that drivers who kill cyclists must get ten years, "no excuses, no exceptions".

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@Smoggysteve "Most would happily ride on the roads and be treated with respect by drivers". But people aren't - and as far as I can see they won't be. Not until there is a lot less driving and it's slower around cyclists, and far more people driving have "skin in the game" eg. they sometimes cycle and their friends and family do also. That's what leads to the model - which is perhaps most advanced in NL - where cycling, walking and driving are all seen as separate normal transport modes. Their needs, vulnerabilities and any dangers to others are considered. And *that* leads to "mix / share when possible, separate when necessary". But "possible" is "where your 10-year old would be safe to cycle unsupervised" - so very few motor vehicles, going slow! And AFAICS everybody - even "existing cyclists" - is happy with the result. (I dunno about a few pro cyclists - but don't they tend to have training camps in different counties anyway?)

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chrisonabike 9 hours ago

@quiff as an Edinburgh resident I can confidently say he's speaking without moving his lips in one sense: - while as I noted in a separate comment there *is* now some real separated cycle infra, all the examples i can think of have *at least as much space* for pedestrians. The rest of the "cycle infra" is essentially similar to the situation in the rest of the UK: eg. bus lanes*, cycle lanes and shared use paths (eg. "build" infra by sticking up a sign). Edinburgh is one of the places with a moderately extensive network of former railways which have been converted to "shared use" paths (completely motor traffic few). However though shared they are not narrow by UK standards. And this is all effectively a "free extra" for all non- motorised users, not like the "sign a cycle path" where pedestrians do lose space. I think this all comes from the "popular understanding" of cycling in which ultimately cyclists are the "other". They don't fit "motor vehicle" or "pedestrian" (including wheelchairs on the very rare occasions people think about that). Thus "cyclists are cheating" in multiple ways! They shouldn't get their own space as "there aren't enough" of them. And "they can just use the road / path". But being able to *choose* "on the road" or "on the footway" (shared use path) is clearly unfair - nobody else gets to do that! BUT of course even if they did pick just one of road OR pedestrian space it's still not fair anyway because they're "too slow" for the road (don't pay "road tax" etc...) and "far too fast" for pedestrians... * Though some existing cyclists may appreciate them when there are few buses, buses and bikes are a very poor mix for several reasons.

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mikecassie 9 hours ago

Whilst a shame for any employees, their bib shorts had the worst chamois pad I’d ever encountered, utter waste of my money. Even though they were Strava challenge discount purchases, still a waste of money.

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Thanks, just going to have to suck it up. Got next week off and will take the easy, if expensive option...

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@ktache Just go for the TNT Sports only package, £30.99 for a month. Alternatively have you considered experimenting with a VPN for a few pounds, allowing you to sign up for a free stream abroad, e.g. SBS Australia which streams the Tour live? If I didn't have a kind mate's login that's what I'd do!

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