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Colombian pro crashes on finish line during victory celebration; Brit hopes to break 200mph in cycling land speed record attempt; Geoghegan Hart criticises scrapping of popular cycle lane; Cycle lane becomes a swimming lane + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Dan Alexander is in the saddle for another day on the live blog
  • by Dan Alexander
Tue, Dec 01, 2020 09:12
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SUMMARY

  • Kensington High Street protest as controversial cycle lane to be scrapped
  • Jeremy Vine, Chris Boardman and Ned Boulting back the Kensington High Street protest on Twitter
  • Spectator ban at Tour of Britain would lead to cancellation of north east leg
  • Spalding police issue two penalty notices and spoke to 14 school children in 'day of action' tackling cycling and road safety issues
  • Local kids adopt bollards and impressive turnout at the Kensington High Street protest this morning
  • Surf's up: cycle lane or swimming lane?
  • Bristol and Bath Railway Path attacks: police deny spike in crime despite concerns and increasing reports from the public
  • 'Roads are for all users to share & enjoy safely': Tao Geoghegan Hart criticises decision to scrap popular cycle lane
  • Registration for Chase the Sun 2021 is open now
  • Embarrassing moment Colombian pro crashes while celebrating victory
  • Engineering students drafted in to help British cyclist break cycling land speed world record
  • The perfect gift to keep the racing fan in your life quiet this Christmas
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1 December 2020, 09:12

Kensington High Street protest as controversial cycle lane to be scrapped

Let’s go Kensington High Street! #SaveOurLane #KensingtonHighStreet #KHS pic.twitter.com/QLE1wPIekt

— All Brompton, No Lycra (@cyclingheavy) December 1, 2020

These were the scenes on Kensington High Street this morning where hundreds of cyclists gathered to protest the lane’s imminent removal. The emergency cycle lane is to be ripped out this week after the council claimed the scheme is “not working.” Among the crowds were pupils and staff from Fox Primary School who say the lane is essential for providing a safe active travel route for children and that removing the lane is a “backwards step.”

The London Cycling Campaign has also taken an active role in promoting the protest and shared a video of the lane being used by many cyclists commuting into London, before the protest began at 8am. Last week, Conservative MPs Tony Devenish and Felicity Buchan claimed that the cycle lane had failed, while actor Nigel Havers has accused it of causing “gridlock every day.”

We bumped into @willnorman at the #savethelane protest – please tell @RBKC to rethink the decision to withdraw the protections for cyclists https://t.co/wqxBbMTC5F https://t.co/88MPSx7E9n

— London Cycling Campaign (@London_Cycling) December 1, 2020

Johnny Thalassites, Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea’s lead member for transport, said: “The cycle lane was a trial scheme to help those hopping on bikes during lockdowns and encourage shoppers to the High Street. Businesses and residents have told us loud and clear that they believe the experiment has not worked. We are listening.

“By removing the temporary lanes as lockdown lifts, we hope to help get the High Street moving again and give our local economy the best possible chance of a good December.”

1 December 2020, 09:12

Jeremy Vine, Chris Boardman and Ned Boulting back the Kensington High Street protest on Twitter

It’s really something that a school has to fight so their kids are able to travel safely and healthily.

They actually want to do what’s best for their future….and they have to fight for it.

Have a think about that.

If you live in the area show them your support tomorrow. https://t.co/uydUJDqT9F

— Chris Boardman (@Chris_Boardman) November 30, 2020

The £700,000 cycle lane along #KensingtonHighStreet is being ripped out this week after less than two months. I used it tonight and met a mum and daughter who didn’t know it was being removed. I hope @RBKC council might watch this and think again pic.twitter.com/pOG4wCPaZF

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) November 30, 2020

I am sick of this country’s lack of progressive vision. It was where I was born, and where, after years travelling and living overseas, I always intended to be remain. But, right now….God, it’s hard.

— Ned Boulting (@nedboulting) November 30, 2020

1 December 2020, 09:12

Spectator ban at Tour of Britain would lead to cancellation of north east leg

Ovo Energy Tour of Britain 2019 in Warwickshire (picture Alex WhiteheadSWPix.com).JPG
Ovo Energy Tour of Britain 2019 in Warwickshire (picture Alex WhiteheadSWPix.com) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ovo Energy Tour of Britain 2019 in Warwickshire (picture Alex WhiteheadSWPix.com).JPG
Ovo Energy Tour of Britain 2019 in Warwickshire (picture Alex WhiteheadSWPix.com) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The Press and Journal reports that Aberdeenshire Council would cancel their involvement in the Tour of Britain if there is a ban on spectators. The city of Aberdeen is due to host the finish of the final stage in 2021 and also the grand depart for the opening stage in 2022. However, Aberdeenshire’s head of economic development, Belinda Miller, explained that one of the key aims of hosting the race is to increase tourism, so a race without spectators would likely lead to the cancellation of their involvement. 

She said: “If there are ongoing Covid-19 restrictions, at the levels we are at at the moment, it would become an event that was very disappointing because we wouldn’t have any spectators out to see it.

“The whole point of hosting it, and us being enthusiastic about it, is as a tourism attraction and to inspire our own communities to get involved in cycling. We had a meeting with organisers Sweet Spot and the city council last week and they are off the same understanding as we are, as are all the other hosting stages, that the event should not go ahead with those levels of restrictions. It would not make sense to do so.”

1 December 2020, 09:12

Spalding police issue two penalty notices and spoke to 14 school children in 'day of action' tackling cycling and road safety issues

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surrey police car - via surrey police (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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surrey police car – via surrey police (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Spalding Today reports that police officers in the Lincolnshire town spoke to 14 school children and issued two penalty notices during the operation to tackle cycling and road safety. The ‘day of action’ took place on Monday November 30 and a social media post said: “The Neighbourhood Team have been out in Spalding today on a day of action targeting cycling offences and road safety. Our approach is both education and enforcement. As a result, 14 schoolchildren have been spoken to and 2 penalty notices issued.”

1 December 2020, 09:12

Local kids adopt bollards and impressive turnout at the Kensington High Street protest this morning

This bollard on Kensington High St was adopted by Ellie, aged 5 who wants to be able to cycle to school in safety.

She has to adopt a bollard because she hasn’t the same access to power that the likes of Lord Rothermere has. #SaveTheLane pic.twitter.com/rnGkEXjsdJ

— StopKillingCyclists (@StopKillingCycl) December 1, 2020

As part of this morning’s protest at Kensington High Street, some of the bollards segregating the cycle lane from traffic have been adopted by local children. Fox Primary School were one of the most vocal supporters of the bike lane and called its planned removal as “a backwards step.” 

Our very own Deputy Head Ms Morgan saying how it is. Thank you to all who came and supported our celebration of cycling and the cycle lane both in person and virtually. #savethelane @Chris_Boardman @MayorofLondon #cycling @RBKC_cycling @London_Cycling @taogeoghegan @willnorman https://t.co/Q46dRvemsb

— Fox Primary School (@FoxPrimary) December 1, 2020

The protest had an impressive turnout considering critics of the cycle lane have suggested it’s barely been used by cyclists. The video below shows 20-30 people on bikes fitting into the space of two or three large cars. 

On the right there are perhaps 4 people in large cars (Maserati v Kensington darling), on the left literally 20-30 people riding bikes in a smaller space. how’s your maths @rbkc ?? @London_Cycling #savethelane pic.twitter.com/rp2dSIXDI2

— Sebastian Morrison (@BastieVelo) December 1, 2020

1 December 2020, 09:12

Surf's up: cycle lane or swimming lane?

DANGEROUS WAVES: Don’t let this happen to you. Strong winds are causing high waves to pound the shoreline along Lake Michigan. Stay off the the lakefront trail. https://t.co/6He8PT33Wj pic.twitter.com/v0n3QLNTmv

— ABC 7 Chicago (@ABC7Chicago) November 30, 2020

Cyclists in Chicago have been urged to stay off the lakefront trail which runs along the edge of Lake Michigan. Strong winds have caused dangerous waves to pound the bike path, this cyclist has probably learnt his lesson.

Could be worse, at least this didn’t happen…

When coach writes ‘cool down’ in the training plan 😂 pic.twitter.com/8ldwXhWbkj

— Awesome Cycling 🚵‍♀️🚵‍♂️ (@AwesomeCycling) November 27, 2020

1 December 2020, 09:12

Bristol and Bath Railway Path attacks: police deny spike in crime despite concerns and increasing reports from the public

Mangotsfield Old Railway Station on Bristol and Bath Railway Path
Mangotsfield Old Railway Station on Bristol and Bath Railway Path (Image Credit: Matt Buck on Flickr Creative Commons)
Mangotsfield Old Railway Station on Bristol and Bath Railway Path
Mangotsfield Old Railway Station on Bristol and Bath Railway Path (Image Credit: Matt Buck on Flickr Creative Commons)

Last week, we reported that several cyclists had complained of attacks on the Bristol and Bath Railway Path, mostly concentrated in an area between 3-6 miles from the start of the Bristol end of the popular cycling and walking route. 

Despite mounting evidence to the contrary, Avon and Somerset Police have now replied with a statement claiming that they are not seeing a spike in crime currently. Deepak Kenth, Neighbourhood inspector for Bristol East, said:  

“Police patrols have been stepped up over the weekend around the Bristol to Bath cycle path in Bristol East and South Gloucestershire, in response to public concerns following recent incidences of anti-social behaviour and theft that have been reported to us. Investigations into these incidents are ongoing.

“However, I’d like to reassure the public that we do not believe we are seeing a particular spike in crime or a ‘series’ of linked incidents, and that levels of reported crime are not significantly higher than in previous years.

“We’d encourage anyone who spots groups of young people being intimidating, anti-social or blocking the path to call 101 as soon as possible, or 999 if they fear a crime is being committed. All reports will be thoroughly investigated.”

Earlier this week, a local man compiled a spreadsheet of reported incidents and shared the document to the Bristol Cyclists Facebook group. The spreadsheet shows that of 28 alleged incidents in the last year, 16 are reported to have occured in November 2020 – it’s not known whether all of these incidents were reported to Avon and Somerset Police. 

1 December 2020, 09:12

'Roads are for all users to share & enjoy safely': Tao Geoghegan Hart criticises decision to scrap popular cycle lane

https://t.co/jO8aqlmede Good luck to the families protesting this decision tomorrow on Ken High St. Cycling has been taken up by so many new people this year, let’s please avoid regressive road infrastructure action @RBKC! LDN roads are for all users to share & enjoy safely.

— Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) November 30, 2020

INEOS Grenadiers’ Giro d’Italia winner Tao Geoghegan Hart is putting his platform to good use with this message of support to those campaigning to try and reverse the decision to scrap Kensington High Street’s emergency segregated cycle lane. Sharing an article reporting the decision to remove the lane after just seven weeks due to 322 email complaints, Geoghegan Hart posted on social media: “Good luck to the families protesting this decision tomorrow.

“On Kensington High Street, cycling has been taken up by so many new people this year, let’s please avoid regressive road infrastructure action! London roads are for all users to share & enjoy safely.”

Thanks Tao. My partner uses this route every day to commute to her job as an essential key worker in an NHS hospital. I am furious that @RBKC and a tiny minority of residents and some misguided and misinformed local businesses do not care about her safety.

— noblecyclist (@noblecyclist) December 1, 2020

1 December 2020, 09:12

Registration for Chase the Sun 2021 is open now

Summer might seem a long way off now the nights are drawing in and the temperature has dropped but it’ll be back soon and what better way to motivate you through the winter than training for a mega ride. Chase the Sun is an annual coast-to-coast endurance challenge on the longest day of the year here in the UK. There are three routes to choose from, including an Italian version, and registration is open now for 2021.

The Chase the Sun North event rolls away from Tynemouth in the east, before crossing the border into Scotland and finishing in Prestwick, after a gruelling 200-mile ride, taking in 3,200m of elevation. If you opt for the southern route, you can expect an even longer day in the saddle, travelling 205 miles from Minster in Kent to Burnham-on-Sea in Somerset.

A third route in Italy from Marco Pantani’s home town of Cesenatico to Tirrenia is even more appealing after a year of lockdown and travel restrictions. The shortest of the routes, it still covers 270km with 3,300m of elevation gain.

1 December 2020, 09:12

Embarrassing moment Colombian pro crashes while celebrating victory

🇨🇴Edisón Muñoz of @OrgullPaisa wins stage 2 of Clásico RCN 2020 and crashes solo while celebrating on the finish line #ClasicoRCN (📺@WinSportsTV) pic.twitter.com/wbX9NiUmxN

— World Cycling Stats (@wcsbike) November 30, 2020

Edisón Muñoz probably wishes the ground would swallow him up after this embarrassing crash on the second stage of Clásico RCN – Cerveza Andina in Colombia. Taking his hands off the bars to celebrate victory he hits a bump in the road and is sent flying off the bike and, fortunately for him, over the finish line. I wonder what went through Muñoz’s mind as he lay on the floor, admittedly with the consolation of a stage win, as all his rivals came flying past laughing their heads off?

It seems this isn’t the first time there’s been a dodgy road surface at the end of a Colombian race. Check out this crash from 2019…

Qué bien el #TourColombia2019, pero se requiere que las autoridades piensen en los ciclistas, como ponen un resalto? pic.twitter.com/7qlbCZRgV6

— Enrique Garcia M. (@egarcam) February 13, 2019

1 December 2020, 09:12

Engineering students drafted in to help British cyclist break cycling land speed world record

Neil Campbell breaks his own European cycling speed record.JPG
Neil Campbell breaks his own European cycling speed record (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Neil Campbell breaks his own European cycling speed record.JPG
Neil Campbell breaks his own European cycling speed record (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Last year, British cyclist Neil Campbell reached a speed of 174.3mph to become the fastest man on a bicycle ever and was officially recognised by Guinness World Records. Now he’s back and trying to break the 200mph barrier. The Shropshire Star reports that a Harper Adams University lecturer and aerodynamics engineer James Croxford, have enlisted the help of four automotive engineering students to design an aerodynamic slipstreaming shelter for the attempt. 

The bike Neil will use in the attempt, which he hopes will take place next summer, requires a car to pull him up to speed with a bungee due to the high gearing.

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1 December 2020, 09:12

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1 December 2020, 09:12

“Shameful, callous and retrograde”: 200 join protest against removal of Kensington High Street cycle lanes

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24 thoughts on “Colombian pro crashes on finish line during victory celebration; Brit hopes to break 200mph in cycling land speed record attempt; Geoghegan Hart criticises scrapping of popular cycle lane; Cycle lane becomes a swimming lane + more on the live blog”

  1. IanMK
    December 1, 2020 at 9:37 am
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    “Businesses and residents

    “Businesses and residents have told us loud and clear that they believe the experiment has not worked” – so not actually supported by evidence then. What was it Bill Hicks said; something like “beliefs are neet but don’t cherish and share them like they’re the truth”.

    “we hope to help get the High Street moving again” – let’s hope they have a plan C.

     

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    • eburtthebike
      December 1, 2020 at 9:44 am
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      IanMK wrote:

      “Businesses and residents have told us loud and clear that they believe the experiment has not worked” – so not actually supported by evidence then. What was it Bill Hicks said; something like “beliefs are neet but don’t cherish and share them like they’re the truth”.

      “we hope to help get the High Street moving again” – let’s hope they have a plan C.

      — IanMK

      Exactly.  Where’s the data?  I believe that the businesses and residents objecting are biased and hate cyclists, and since my belief is just as good as theirs, they balance out, so the lane has to remain.

      You can’t make real world decisions on belief, you need facts, which they don’t have, except for the single fact that they hate cyclists.

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    • Kendalred
      December 1, 2020 at 12:30 pm
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      In the same way that Donald

      In the same way that Donald Trump believes he won the recent Presidential election.

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  2. the little onion
    December 1, 2020 at 9:40 am
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    ” actor and convicted drink

    ” actor and convicted drink driver Nigel Havers has accused it of causing “gridlock every day.”

     

    Fixed that for you

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    • the little onion
      December 1, 2020 at 10:45 am
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      I’m really disappointed to

      I’m really disappointed to find out that Nigel Havers is, in real life, a proper tool. He really is a great actor….. 

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      • Captain Badger
        December 1, 2020 at 12:54 pm
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        the little onion wrote:

        I’m really disappointed to find out that Nigel Havers is, in real life, a proper tool. He really is a great actor….. 

        — the little onion

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  3. alexb
    December 1, 2020 at 10:15 am
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    So let’s get this straight.

    So let’s get this straight. The borough that voted to remove the Western Extension for the Congestion Charge Zone is now complaining about congestion?

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  4. wycombewheeler
    December 1, 2020 at 10:44 am
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    The solution is for all

    The solution is for all cyclists who did travel by bike to travel by car instead and see if congestion gets better or worse.

    They are quick to notice the space lost, but don’t consider the reduction in number of motor vehicles. An extra ane here doesn’t reduce congestion because a) it will likely be taken by parked vehicles b) there will be a bottleneck further up the road where there are not two lanes.

    If drivers can recognise that the cycle lanes are free of traffic and less congested than the motor vehicle lane, why don’t they make the switch and save themselves some time?

    30 years ago I could cycle anyway in London quicker than public transport, and many places quicker than driving (or cenrtainly quicker than driving and parking) I doubt cycle journey times have increased whereas I bet motor vehcile journey times have.

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    • Jenova20
      December 1, 2020 at 11:00 am
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      wycombewheeler wrote:

      If drivers can recognise that the cycle lanes are free of traffic and less congested than the motor vehicle lane, why don’t they make the switch and save themselves some time?

      — wycombewheeler

      It’s easier to sit in traffic fuming at others moving around freely, than actually join them. These people won’t change unless they’re forced to.

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  5. Secret_squirrel
    December 1, 2020 at 2:15 pm
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    One hopes Spalding police are

    One hopes Spalding police are as diliigent with passing motorists, and one also hopes that their enforcement action involved a judgement call before encouraging young kids to cycle in the traffic rather than the relative safety of the pavement.   One also hopes that the 2 tickets weren’t for parents doing their best to look after their kids under crappy cycle provision.

    OK Im making assumptions here but I dont like the tone of that tweet.

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  6. Jenova20
    December 1, 2020 at 2:39 pm
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    The Daily Mail coverage of

    The Daily Mail coverage of the cycle lane protest is quite different in tone…

    “Finally Kensington High Street’s ‘white elephant’ Covid bike lane gets some use! Cyclists with Extinction Rebellion flags spill into the road and bring traffic to a halt with protest against removal of the hated £300k council scheme“

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9005063/Cyclists-Extinction-Rebellion-flags-protest-removal-hated-cycle-lane.html

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    • markieteeee
      December 1, 2020 at 6:42 pm
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      I believe you but don’t post

      I believe you but don’t post their links. All clicks increase their ad revenue. 

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      • Jenova20
        December 2, 2020 at 9:20 am
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        markieteeee wrote:

        I believe you but don’t post their links. All clicks increase their ad revenue. 

        — markieteeee

        Adblock them. For security reasons alone adblock everything and whitelist only the sites you want to support, and know are secure.

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        • markieteeee
          December 2, 2020 at 6:17 pm
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          I solve it by not clicking

          I solve it by not clicking through to them, but yes this would work too.

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  7. MiserableBastard
    December 1, 2020 at 5:00 pm
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    200mph isn’t a “barrier”, it

    200mph isn’t a “barrier”, it’s an arbitrary number. And a thoughtless cliché.

    The sound barrier was a genuine barrier because with conventional aircraft designs the shockwave in front of the plane just piles up as you approach the speed of sound and physically prevents the plane from going any faster.

    Nothing physically stops someone on a bike who is being sucked along by the vortex behind a car from going faster than any given subsonic speed. If the car can do 200mph, then so can the bike rider, provided he or she has the necessary huge shiny gonads to hang the hell on at that speed. In which case I takes off me hat to ’em.

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    • njblackadder
      December 1, 2020 at 5:09 pm
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      Fair point. Just one thing;

      Fair point. Just one thing; it’s an aeroplane, not a plane. A Plane is a tool used in woodworking, or is a 2-dimensional geometrical construct. From one miserable b@stard to another!!!

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      • TheBillder
        December 1, 2020 at 8:03 pm
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        In the picture there does
        In the picture there does seem to be a plane attached to the back of the Porsche Stupidity being used as the tow car. I can’t imagine what the engineering students did for that one – take hinges, handles and a knocker off? Perhaps if doing this now they’d have to remove a Christmas wreath too.

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      • andystow
        December 1, 2020 at 11:11 pm
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        njblackadder wrote:

        Fair point. Just one thing; it’s an aeroplane, not a plane. A Plane is a tool used in woodworking, or is a 2-dimensional geometrical construct. From one miserable b@stard to another!!!

        — njblackadder

        Are you a language prescriptivist or descriptivist? Either way, your attempted pedantry is incorrect. People use the word “plane” that way, and it’s in the dictionary.

        https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/plane

         

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        • brooksby
          December 2, 2020 at 6:20 am
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          andystow wrote:

          Fair point. Just one thing; it’s an aeroplane, not a plane. A Plane is a tool used in woodworking, or is a 2-dimensional geometrical construct. From one miserable b@stard to another!!!

          — andystow

          Are you a language prescriptivist or descriptivist? Either way, your attempted pedantry is incorrect. People use the word “plane” that way, and it’s in the dictionary.

          https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/plane— njblackadder

          Shouldn’t it be a ‘plane? Since it’s a contraction of aeroplane (UK) or airplane (US)…

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          • hawkinspeter
            December 2, 2020 at 9:04 am
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            brooksby wrote:

            Fair point. Just one thing; it’s an aeroplane, not a plane. A Plane is a tool used in woodworking, or is a 2-dimensional geometrical construct. From one miserable b@stard to another!!!

            — brooksby

            Are you a language prescriptivist or descriptivist? Either way, your attempted pedantry is incorrect. People use the word “plane” that way, and it’s in the dictionary.

            https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/plane

            — andystow

            Shouldn’t it be a ‘plane? Since it’s a contraction of aeroplane (UK) or airplane (US)…

            — njblackadder

            Is that like the short version of helicopter should be ‘pter’?

    • manonbike
      December 1, 2020 at 8:01 pm
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      200mph isn’t a barrier, but
      200mph isn’t a barrier, but it takes a s**t load of power to move a car at that speed and keep it stable. To do that and leave a hole in the air big enough to fit a bike in is a real achievement. Like you say though, the cyclist just needs balls of steel. Or titanium.

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  8. Rome73
    December 2, 2020 at 7:17 am
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    Guys – you have all wasted so

    Guys – you have all wasted so much energy and space replying to Twatcyclist. If it posts just ignore it. 

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    • Captain Badger
      December 2, 2020 at 8:03 am
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      Quite.

      Quite.

      It’s like an incessant itch that no amount of scratching is enough……

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  9. rivers
    December 2, 2020 at 4:07 pm
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    If you really want an epic

    If you really want an epic day out on the bike, Chase the Sun is a good shout. I rode i it 2019, and was supposed to ride again in 2020. SIgned up for 2021, and can’t wait. It is by far the best day I’ve had on the bike. While I was mentally and physically prepared for the challenge, I wasn’t emotionally prepared for the finish. There is nothing quite like it, and the atmosphere of the day can’t be beat

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mctrials23 9 minutes ago

@mitsky Its another one of those things that makes no sense isn't it. Someone was saying in another thread that we need a harder driving test. I don't think we do. Everyone who has passed in the last 20 years has done a test that is more than happy to fail you for behaviour that 90% of drivers exhibit every time they get behind the wheel. The test is fine. The fact that getting your license seems to be considered some weird proof that you will continue to drive safely is the issue. The fact that when you prove that you cannot drive safely its not immediately revoked is the issue.

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mctrials23 13 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris The issue with GPS chips, as everyone who has one of those black boxes will attest to, is that they are crap. They interpret heavy braking as poor driving rather than someone else forcing it. They see rapid acceleration where there is none. All we need is a much higher chance of people being caught and punished for their everyday shit driving. I'm sure as a cyclist that every single time you go out on your bike you will have a dozen or more times when you think "that would have been a nasty accident if someone was coming the other direction". Eventually, when bad behaviour suffers no consequences it becomes completely normalised. Then we struggle to treat it as anything but a normal, unavoidable accident when that bad behaviour does incur consequences.

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mctrials23 17 minutes ago

Drivers regularly pull out in front of me and cause me to slam on the brakes or avoid them. Very often they have seen me and just assume I'm not going very fast or they assume I will slow down/stop (which I do). Too many drivers don't look for cyclists, hate giving way to them or expect the cyclist to be moving slowly and just pull out.

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mctrials23 40 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris By the time someone is looking at prison time its too late. As has been proven time and time again, the severity of punishment is a poor deterrent to bad behaviour if people don't think its going to happen to them or they don't think they will be caught. Now I do think that there should be far more severe and immediate punishments for bad driving when drivers are caught but this would need to be coupled with a massive push to actually act on information/proof of bad driving. As anyone that submits footage to the police knows, its a crapshoot and certain police forces are anti-cyclist. This would try to essentially put people off misbehaving whilst driving before they cause an accident rather than getting the tired old excuse of "it was a single dangerous incident, they definitely don't do this all the time and their luck finally ran out". Perhaps it should go even further and if you have a history of speeding and you hurt someone speeding, that is looked upon in a very dim light.

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KiwiMike 51 minutes ago

Can we talk about “Washing up liquid contains a lot of salt – not a great idea to use a corrosive substance on a bicycle”? This is an urban myth. I have washed all of our many bikes using Fairy liquid or Ecover for decades. I’ve never found any evidence of corrosion, paint, laquer or decal wear, or any sign of anything. I regularly service forks and bearings, swapping a lot of gear, and everything has always been fine. Here’s far too much info below - long story short, Fairy liquid in 5L of hot water has a borderline-homeopathic amount of salt, it’s fine to use on a bike. ============ The honest answer is that neither Fairy nor Ecover publicly disclose the actual sodium chloride concentration in the consumer products I could find. The safety data sheets list hazardous ingredients above reporting thresholds, but sodium chloride is not reported for either product. However, we can put some realistic bounds on it. Fairy Original The SDS lists: Sodium laureth sulfate: 20-30%
 Lauramine oxide: 5-10%
 Alcohol: 1-5%
 No sodium chloride is declared. 15 In detergent formulations, sodium chloride is commonly used as a viscosity modifier (thickener) and is typically present at around 0.5-3%, sometimes lower. The absence of declaration suggests it is either not present or present at a low concentration that does not require reporting. This range is an informed formulation estimate, not a value stated by Fairy. Ecover The Ecover ingredient information lists: Sodium lauryl sulfate
 Lauryl glucoside
 Cocamidopropyl betaine
 Alcohol
 Lactic acid
 Sodium octyl sulphate
 Again, no sodium chloride is listed. Ecover's formulations tend to rely more heavily on plant-derived surfactants and may use little or no salt for thickening, but I could not find a published concentration. 63 What does this mean for bike washing? Let's assume a worst-case 3% salt content in Fairy. If you add: 10 mL Fairy to a 5-litre bucket
 Then salt introduced would be approximately: 10 mL × 3% ≈ 0.3 g salt
 Distributed through 5 L water
 ≈ 60 mg/L salt
 For comparison: Typical seawater: ~35,000 mg/L
 Lightly salted winter road spray: often hundreds to thousands of mg/L
 The wash bucket above: ~60 mg/L
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 Coastal spray
 Leaving winter grime on the bike
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mitsky 52 minutes ago

Another example of a driver's actions that would have been a straight fail in a driving test but is barely likely to lead to a disqualification... I'm wondering if having a driving licence is like a "Get out of jail free" card...

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Yes indeed. I have a version of the R8100 and you definitively need ceramic for the socket.

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mctrials23 1 hour ago

@perce I'm not sure I agree with that. I think thats just confirming that he is take fully responsibility and recognises that the cyclist could have done nothing to mitigate it.

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If we don't fight it now, we'll all end up forced to wear baggy shorts!

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@Rendel Harris Agree, I am baffled that the 84 year old who is now banned from driving for year can then start driving again without a retest. We should be re-tested regularly.

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