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Jeremy Vine narrowly avoids being hit by driver as MPs call for cycle lane to be scrapped; Close pass on children riding to school; Tao hints at Giro defence in 2021; Cloud 9 Cycles launch £10,000 diversity scholarship + more on the live blog

It’s Friday and Dan Alexander is taking you through to the weekend on the live blog
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Nov 27, 2020 09:05
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SUMMARY

  • 'Despicable': Attempted close pass on children riding to school by taxi driver in Ireland
  • MPs ask for Kensington High Street cycle lane to be scrapped... but where's the evidence?
  • 'Absolute madness': Jeremy Vine narrowly avoids being hit by driver just hours before MPs call for cycle lane to be scrapped
  • Cloud 9 Cycles launch £10,000 diversity scholarship for BAME Endurance cyclists
  • Tunnel works delayed as costs soar
  • We're hiring!
  • Ned Boulting on bikes
  • Fabio Jakobsen sets sights on return to racing in 2021
  • UCI Cyclo-cross World Cup is back this weekend
  • Owain Doull opens up about losing his best friend to suicide to raise awareness for Movember
  • Camden Council to create additional cycling contraflows either side of Tottenham Court Road
  • Tao Geoghegan Hart hints at Giro d'Italia defence in 2021
  • If Gianni Savio owned a football club
  • Brian Moore gets hooked by life on two wheels
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27 November 2020, 09:05

'Despicable': Attempted close pass on children riding to school by taxi driver in Ireland

kids on their way to school, taxi driver just wont wait 🤬pic.twitter.com/Mk4oGh4Mrq

— Alan D (@AlanDub13) November 25, 2020

How not to encourage children to cycle to school. This father challenged the taxi driver, videoed here trying to get round two kids on a very narrow stretch of road, on his dangerous driving. The man in the video, Dan, can be heard telling the driver that he’s on camera and will be reported.

Dan wrote: “Speaking of a curse, this **** couldn’t wait a couple of car lengths to pass us and tried to force through. Close enough to bang on car. Reported to TrafficWatch.”

Typical “Must Get In Front” driver, who is willing to recklessly endager lives of children just to prove a point that cars rule.

— Kätlin Bowden (@BowdenKatlin) November 25, 2020

Nope. Sadly 😢.

I’m a teacher, and was riding into schools same time as the kids rode in.

It’s utterly, mind-blowingly, terrifying how some reckless “entitled” drivers treat school kids on bikes.

— gavincooks (@aLeedscyclist) November 25, 2020

27 November 2020, 09:05

MPs ask for Kensington High Street cycle lane to be scrapped... but where's the evidence?

A video of @FelicityBuchan and I talking about the High St Ken cycle lane. It’s really important to encourage more cycling but unfortunately this was the wrong scheme. pic.twitter.com/zebSZt2Yoi

— Tony Devenish (@Tony_Devenish) November 26, 2020

Conservative MPs Tony Devenish and Felicity Buchan released a statement yesterday saying they no longer support the Kensington High Street cycle lane and that they now favour its removal. Critics have suggested there isn’t evidence to back up their claim that it has ‘failed’, with videos on social media being shared of traffic on the High Street flowing freely. Last week Nigel Havers accused the segregated lane of ‘causing gridlock every day‘, in a Daily Mail column. However, some pointed out on social media that the only gridlock that could be seen in the video below was the line of parked vans in the cycle lane.

Thank you for the subtitles, I could barely hear you both above the (free-flowing) motor vehicle noise. Thank you also for your dedication in maintaining the status quo. The congestion you refer to – plain as day on these traffic cams – looks totally unbearable and must be fixed. pic.twitter.com/nThXrLhD2Q

— Adam Tranter (@adamtranter) November 26, 2020

Kensington High Street cycle lane this morning full of parked cars @betterstreetskc @RBKC pic.twitter.com/iVgsnJUKkG

— MJ (@MichielJoseph) November 25, 2020

27 November 2020, 09:05

'Absolute madness': Jeremy Vine narrowly avoids being hit by driver just hours before MPs call for cycle lane to be scrapped

Absolute madness this morning on a stretch of High Street Kensington where there’s not yet a dedicated lane for cyclists.
This is the most frightening scenario on a bicycle, when the danger comes out of nowhere. pic.twitter.com/QNQBB9Ek7H

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) November 26, 2020

Kensington High Street has been the topic of much debate this week after two Tory MPs called for the segregated cycle lane to be scrapped. Just hours before their statement, Jeremy Vine was almost hit by a car driver who cut across two lanes of traffic to turn left…on one of the only stretches of the High Street where there is no cycle lane. 

You really couldn’t make it up. Just a reminder of what Nigel Havers wrote in a column about the Kensington High Street cycle lane: “Maybe I wouldn’t be so cross about these cycle lanes if it was not for the fact that so many of the cyclists I encounter do not obey the laws of the road.

“I ride a Vespa and I see so many of them jump red lights, mount pavements and go the wrong way down one-way roads. But not once have I seen any of them stopped by police. One gets a strong sense that many think they are more special than everyone else.”

27 November 2020, 09:05

Cloud 9 Cycles launch £10,000 diversity scholarship for BAME Endurance cyclists

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Cloud 9 Cycles
Cloud 9 Cycles (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Cycling Industry News reports Cloud 9 Cycles have announced a new £10,000 scholarship for BAME riders to improve diversity in Ultra Distance and MTB in the UK. The winner of the scholarship will receive a fully custom built bike as well as seven months of professional coaching from Veloqi. They will also get an entry into the 2021 Pan Celtic Endurance Race – a 1,600 mile, 100,000ft self-supported race through Cornwall, Ireland and Wales.

Cloud 9 Cycles said: “When we shared our version of the BLM black square back in June (we’ve learned a lot since then), we said: This is not enough. Our team is white. The cycling world is staggeringly white. We are part of the problem.

“There’s a saying that goes ‘if you can’t see it, you can’t be it’ and unless I’m mistaken (please let me be), there aren’t any prominent BAME pro athletes in the UK MTB scene just yet. This lack of representation forms a feedback loop where potential future talent may be discouraged from getting into the sport, because they view the scene as a white space that’s not for them. We need to break that cycle.”

27 November 2020, 09:05

Tunnel works delayed as costs soar

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Queensbury Tunnel (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Queensbury Tunnel
Queensbury Tunnel (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Work on the Queensbury Tunnel in West Yorkshire, which cycling and environmental campaigners hope can be made into a new greenway connecting Bradford and Halifax, has been delayed. The cost of the project to shore up the disused railway tunnel has risen by 25% to more than £1 million as the works which were meant to be completed by now are yet to begin. 

The project has been delayed by floodwater in the tunnel and Highways England failing to pay the rent on a pumping station. In July, plans were revealed for divers to fit bags below the shaft and fill them with grout pumped from the dry part of the tunnel, 500 metres away. Preparations started in August, with the main phase due to finish in September. However work has not yet started due to a ‘concept redesign’ and logistical constraints. The estimated cost has risen by £100K to £863K, whilst additional investigations and minor works at the shaft have taken the overall bill to £1,013,177.

27 November 2020, 09:05

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27 November 2020, 09:05

Ned Boulting on bikes

…No one reasonable is saying that bikes replace cars – (I’ve just had to hire a car for a journey I couldn’t otherwise have done). But it’s evident that bikes CAN replace cars for shorter journeys, all year round, with or without loads, to a very significant extent…2/5

— Ned Boulting (@nedboulting) November 26, 2020

…but for the most part they are law-abiding and potentially very vulnerable. And besides, it goes without saying that collisions involving motor vehicles are hundreds of times more damaging and fatal. Yet, much of the media is curiously obsessed…4/5

— Ned Boulting (@nedboulting) November 26, 2020

…not with the actual and evident tragedy of pollution and fatality which are a quotidian reality of our lives with cars, but with the fostering of dislike, disdain and ridicule of people who choose to do something different. Please make it stop. That’s it. 5/5

— Ned Boulting (@nedboulting) November 26, 2020

27 November 2020, 09:05

Fabio Jakobsen sets sights on return to racing in 2021

Fabio Jakobsen (from twitter)
Fabio Jakobsen (from twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Fabio Jakobsen (from twitter)
Fabio Jakobsen (from twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Fabio Jakobsen will join his Deceuninck-Quick Step teammates at their January training camp in Spain. Cyclingnews reports the Dutch sprinter has voiced his desire to return to professional racing in 2021. On Tuesday, Jakobsen got back on the bike for the first time since his Tour of Poland crash in August. 

Team doctor, Yvan Vanmol, told Sporza that reports of some of Jakobsen’s injuries were exaggerated: “There have been stories about Fabio, that every bone in his face was broken, that his windpipe was crushed, that he had 1,000 stitches. The damage was great, but there was a lot of exaggeration.

“The aesthetic was not the main concern. You know that a lot is possible nowadays. The question of whether you will ever be able to practice your profession again was taken much more seriously.

“For Fabio, the next step now is to see how he digests training rides. He just got back from a vacation. Before that he already cycled but he felt tired after an hour and a half or two. On Wednesday he told me that he is now clearly feeling better physically. His holiday has also done him good mentally to reset the head.

“On the camp, Fabio will immediately know how he feels about cycling in a group. And if necessary we will guide him in this. Just like we sometimes do with riders who have problems with descents.”

27 November 2020, 09:05

UCI Cyclo-cross World Cup is back this weekend

Coming this Sunday… the return of the UCI Cyclo-cross World Cup! #CXWorldCup
pic.twitter.com/S10z334oDt

— UCI (@UCI_cycling) November 26, 2020

27 November 2020, 09:05

Owain Doull opens up about losing his best friend to suicide to raise awareness for Movember

Owain Doull has bravely told his story about losing one of his best friends to suicide earlier this year, in a video to raise awareness for men’s mental health charity Movember. In the UK, 84 men a week take their own life and Doull experienced first-hand the negative effects lockdown can have on people’s mental health.

He said: “Movember’s such a worthy cause for the work they do. Of all they years to donate, this is the year. With the impacts of covid and the lockdown on mental health, people need support more than ever. It makes a difference, you can save lives.”

27 November 2020, 09:05

Camden Council to create additional cycling contraflows either side of Tottenham Court Road

Contraflow cycle lane (copyright Simon MacMichael)
Contraflow cycle lane (copyright Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Contraflow cycle lane (copyright Simon MacMichael)
Contraflow cycle lane (copyright Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

According to Fitzrovia News, Camden Council is creating a number of cycle contraflows around the Tottenham Court Road area to make cycling easier. The streets will allow bikes to travel in either direction as well as applying restrictions on waiting and loading for vehicles. This will free cyclists to travel in either direction down roads which are currently one-way.

The scheme will proceed under a trial period from 30 November on Bedford Avenue, Grafton Way, Tottenham Street, Warren Street and Windmill Street.

27 November 2020, 09:05

Tao Geoghegan Hart hints at Giro d'Italia defence in 2021

Tao Geoghegan Hart with the Giro d'Italia trophy (picture LaPresse, RCS Sport)
Tao Geoghegan Hart with the Giro d'Italia trophy (picture LaPresse, RCS Sport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tao Geoghegan Hart with the Giro d'Italia trophy (picture LaPresse, RCS Sport)
Tao Geoghegan Hart with the Giro d'Italia trophy (picture LaPresse, RCS Sport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Tao Geoghegan Hart has hinted that a defence of his Giro d’Italia crown may be on the cards in 2021. In an interview with Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport, Geoghegan Hart asserted his belief that he can win the Tour de France one day and said he was keen to return to Italy next season. He said: “Of course, that’s my dream. I think to win the Giro as your first Grand Tour is amazing, really – especially this year, with everything that’s happened and how difficult it’s been for everyone.

“But definitely – that’s the objective, I hope I’m going to have another 10 years or more of my career, and the plan is to fight every year for those races. And also for the Giro, of course. I’ve always loved racing in Italy, and I’m looking forward to hopefully having a more regular season next year.

“There are so many races that I’m looking forward to, and so many beautiful races in cycling, and I’ve always love racing in Italy, so I’m sure I’ll be racing a lot there next year.”

27 November 2020, 09:05

If Gianni Savio owned a football club

Its the Androni of football https://t.co/F2fW4WCWnT

— José Been (@TourDeJose) November 27, 2020

27 November 2020, 09:05

Brian Moore gets hooked by life on two wheels

Nothing better than a crisp, still day for bike riding. I never thought I’d get hooked; I was wrong.

— Brian Moore (@brianmoore666) November 26, 2020

It’s always nice to see famous faces catch the cycling bug. Last week we found out Alan Shearer has become a keen cyclist since hanging up his boots, this week it’s Brian Moore. It’s good to know that even with 64 caps for your country you can still enjoy life on two wheels. Not that I’ll be getting a call-up…well, ever.

27 November 2020, 09:05

Corner-cutting motorist who blamed low sun for killing cyclist spared jail

Corner-cutting motorist who blamed low sun for killing cyclist spared jail

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Dan Alexander
Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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42 thoughts on “Jeremy Vine narrowly avoids being hit by driver as MPs call for cycle lane to be scrapped; Close pass on children riding to school; Tao hints at Giro defence in 2021; Cloud 9 Cycles launch £10,000 diversity scholarship + more on the live blog”

  1. Mungecrundle
    November 27, 2020 at 9:52 am
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    School run taxi driver.

    School run taxi driver.

    Even more depressingly, you just know that there are people out there (and possibly on this very forum) who will criticise Dan, accusing him of putting his children in harms way.

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    • Nigel Garrage
      November 27, 2020 at 10:02 am
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      There’s a similar road to
      There’s a similar road to that in my local area. When I ride with my son I just go straight down the middle – stops any shenanigans like that

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      • Awavey
        November 27, 2020 at 10:44 am
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        Whilst I’d certainly advocate
        Whilst I’d certainly advocate & support riding in the middle of the lane on roads like that,from bitter experience I can assure you it doesnt completely stop those types of shenanigans.ive had more than a few face offs with drivers who will not yield to cyclists in those positions.

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        • Nigel Garrage
          November 27, 2020 at 12:28 pm
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          Awavey wrote:

          Whilst I’d certainly advocate & support riding in the middle of the lane on roads like that,from bitter experience I can assure you it doesnt completely stop those types of shenanigans.ive had more than a few face offs with drivers who will not yield to cyclists in those positions.

          — Awavey

          Sorry to hear that – in all fairness I look really hard so that probably explains our different experiences.

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          • Hirsute
            November 27, 2020 at 3:13 pm
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            I never imagined you as a

            I never imagined you as a built like a brick shit house.

        • wtjs
          November 27, 2020 at 6:49 pm
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          Whilst I’d certainly advocate

          Whilst I’d certainly advocate & support riding in the middle of the lane 

          Try that sort of thing in Lancashire, and you get a Traffic Sergeant threatening you with prosecution for obstructing traffic and forcing poor mistreated drivers to cross double white lines in a dangerous position because they would lose 5 or 10 seconds if they didn’t (proof on request). This was such a stupid idea that I encouraged him to go ahead with prosecution, but he never replied. The Sarge disappeared for ever after I complained, although I only achieved the joke warning letter for the Fiat.

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    • Steve K
      November 27, 2020 at 11:42 am
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      Mungecrundle wrote:

       (and possibly on this very forum) 

      — Mungecrundle

      Who could you possibly mean?

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    • Captain Badger
      November 27, 2020 at 1:25 pm
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      Mungecrundle wrote:

      School run taxi driver.

      Even more depressingly, you just know that there are people out there (and possibly on this very forum) who will criticise Dan, accusing him of putting his children in harms way.

      — Mungecrundle

      I had a quick look on Twitter, and it looked quite promising. It feels that as more of these vids go up folk are finding it harder and harder to kneejerk “It’s teh riders fault” and are actually starting to get the picture.

      Or maybe it’s cos of the enormous spliff I’m smoking….

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      • hawkinspeter
        November 27, 2020 at 2:06 pm
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        Captain Badger wrote:

        School run taxi driver.

        Even more depressingly, you just know that there are people out there (and possibly on this very forum) who will criticise Dan, accusing him of putting his children in harms way.

        — Captain Badger

        I had a quick look on Twitter, and it looked quite promising. It feels that as more of these vids go up folk are finding it harder and harder to kneejerk “It’s teh riders fault” and are actually starting to get the picture.

        Or maybe it’s cos of the enormous spliff I’m smoking….

        — Mungecrundle

        I hope that there is an attitude change as more cyclists run cameras and post the poor driving that’s around. As well as hopefully causing the driver involved to re-examine how they drive, there’s the chance that other drivers might look at it and realise that they could get caught out with similar driving.

        What I’d like to see is drivers being careful around all cyclists even if it’s just because they never know if that particular cyclist has a cam recording them.

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        • Awavey
          November 27, 2020 at 3:47 pm
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          I’ll have what the squirrel
          I’ll have what the squirrel is smoking as there are villages in Yorkshire that will have safe cycling routes before that ever happens 🙂

          I’d love to see the attitude in drivers change like that,but my anecdata suggests most drivers dont even consider it a possibility. How else to explain the speeding, the lack of VED,MOT,red light jumping,careless and even dangerous examples of vehicles & driving my camera records nearly every time I go for a ride.

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          • mike the bike
            November 27, 2020 at 5:52 pm
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            Tony Devenish is an MP, a

            Tony Devenish is an MP, a position of some influence, and yet he utters phrases like, “A video of Felicity and I, talking ….. “.

            Jesus, the man can’t even use basic English.

          • Sriracha
            November 27, 2020 at 6:13 pm
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            mike the bike wrote:

            Tony Devenish is an MP, a position of some influence, and yet he utters phrases like, “A video of Felicity and I, talking ….. “.

            Jesus, the man can’t even use basic English.

            — mike the bike

            I’d like to nominate you for being accusative. But there was a time when breaking the third commandment would attract greater censure than straying from mere grammatical orthodoxy.

          • Awavey
            November 27, 2020 at 9:50 pm
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            well actually, hes merely a

            well actually, hes merely a local councillor/assembly member not an MP 🙂

  2. Jetmans Dad
    November 27, 2020 at 9:56 am
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    This whole cycle lane thing

    This whole cycle lane thing just reminds me of the classic NIMBY response to anything … we support cycle lanes and we want to see more of them, but somewhere else. 

    There was a series of politicians on the radio this morning talking about the new tiered COVID restrictions post lockdown and all said basically the same thing about that … we support these new tiers and think they are the right way to proceed but my area should be in a lower one. 

    Perhaps it is a peculiarly British disease. 

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    • andystow
      November 28, 2020 at 4:27 am
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      Jetmans Dad wrote:

      Perhaps it is a peculiarly British disease. 

      — Jetmans Dad

      It’s not. I’m in the U.S., and it’s much the same here.

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  3. brooksby
    November 27, 2020 at 10:37 am
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    OMG – did they put a

    OMG – did they put a christmas tree in the cycle lane?? 

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  4. Bungle_52
    November 27, 2020 at 11:53 am
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    Re close pass on kids. Well

    Re close pass on kids. Well done to the cyclist who confronted the taxi driver and I hope you get some feedback from TrafficWatch whatever that is. If the driver wasn’t apologetic it may be worth contacting the company the driver worked for or the taxi licencers.

    A while back a taxi driver pulled out in front of me in the village, after I caught him up I asked him why he had done it. He said he didn’t see me and came up with all sorts of excuses, my parting words were “you’re on camera”. I bumped in to him a little later on on my way into the shop near where the taxis park. His attitude had changed completely and he couldn’t apologise enough. I said thank you and that that was all that was needed. I may be imagining it but I am convinced that local taxi drivers now give me plenty of room when I am on my, quite distinctive, sit and beg shopping bike that I use for local journeys.

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  5. 0-0
    November 27, 2020 at 11:59 am
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    Breaking News:
    Breaking News:
    Cycle lane asks for Tory MPs to be scrapped.

    ?

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    • Captain Badger
      November 27, 2020 at 1:22 pm
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      0-0 wrote:

      Breaking News: Cycle lane asks for Tory MPs to be scrapped. ?

      — 0-0

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  6. Jenova20
    November 27, 2020 at 12:08 pm
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    That taxi driver shouldn’t

    That taxi driver shouldn’t have a licence.

    Hopefully Jeremy Vine reports that tool to the police.

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  7. Muddy Ford
    November 27, 2020 at 12:55 pm
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    That father was cool. I don’t

    That father was cool. I don’t think I would have been so calm. These are the drivers that should have licences taken off them. Until the police take this type of dangerous driving seriously it will not diminish. We need some adverts on TV highlighting the deaths and injuries caused by misjudged close passes and disregard for vulnerable road users etc., just like they did for drink driving which changed public opinion from it being ‘naughty’ to being abhorrent. TV personalities who make jokes about knocking down cyclists, such as Clarkson, should be put in same bucket as people who joke about getting away with drink driving.

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  8. Nigel Garrage
    November 27, 2020 at 1:13 pm
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    Re Jeremy Vine Twitter video

    Re Jeremy Vine Twitter video – what’s with all the ridiculous music and graphics, like some lo-budget police/entertainment show? “Hey look, here’s another close pass to put you off commuting”. I understand it raises Mr Vine’s social media profile and gets clicks, but really, why can’t he just submit the video to police and let them deal with it?

    P.s. at 45 seconds isn’t that a police car sat there?

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    • David9694
      November 27, 2020 at 2:53 pm
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      Don’t worry, Road.cc have got

      Don’t worry, Road.cc have got you covered.  

      I was trying to catch “will you profit from Brexit?”, which has a picture of Nigel Farage (as opposed to fake Nigel). Whose picture should there instead? 

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    • cyclefaster
      November 27, 2020 at 3:33 pm
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      I don’t really understand how

      I don’t really understand how Jeremy Vine gets involved in so many near misses. I guess if you spend more time on the road you are more likely to encounter dangerous driving but I’ve commuted by bike for years must be quite lucky to have experienced an only a small number of incidents of bad driving in that time.

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      • Hirsute
        November 27, 2020 at 3:48 pm
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        Do you aslo live in London in

        Do you aslo live in London in a high density area?

        I find myself on the end of plenty of close passes although left hooks and junctions inceidents are fewer.

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      • EddyBerckx
        November 27, 2020 at 3:54 pm
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        cyclefaster wrote:

        I don’t really understand how Jeremy Vine gets involved in so many near misses. I guess if you spend more time on the road you are more likely to encounter dangerous driving but I’ve commuted by bike for years must be quite lucky to have experienced an only a small number of incidents of bad driving in that time.

        — cyclefaster

        I know what you are saying but in London especially, it’s very dependant on which part you are in and on what roads. The west end especially is a crap hole for idiot driving especially, and presumably that’s where a lot of his near misses come from

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      • Shake
        November 27, 2020 at 4:14 pm
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        I find if I’m on my slow

        I find if I’m on my slow singlespeed I get many more close passes than on my road bike. I put it down to a lack of patience 

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      • Jenova20
        November 27, 2020 at 4:15 pm
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        cyclefaster wrote:

        I don’t really understand how Jeremy Vine gets involved in so many near misses. I guess if you spend more time on the road you are more likely to encounter dangerous driving but I’ve commuted by bike for years must be quite lucky to have experienced an only a small number of incidents of bad driving in that time.

        — cyclefaster

        I’m making police reports for close passes and related incidents weekly. Some of you must have great segregated cycling infrastructure…

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      • Bungle_52
        November 27, 2020 at 4:16 pm
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        You have been very lucky or

        You have been very lucky or you don’t think giving less than1.2m is a close pass. I’ve just got back from a trip into Cheltenham. I reckon about 5 close passes on the fast road into town and one left hook in the middle of town. Not unusual in recent weeks.

        I am wondering whether it has anything to do with having my camera mounted on the front of the bike. When I cycle with the camera mounted on top of my helmet I seem to get less. May be it’s subjective. Any one else with similar experience?

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        • Gary's bike channel
          November 27, 2020 at 6:03 pm
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          ive got two drift ghost x’s

          ive got two drift ghost x’s on my helmet, one on the right hand side pointing back at traffic, one on my left looking ahead. So even on a 60 mph road, nobody got close to me, every single driver waited for a moment then moved out into the other lane. Either i got lucky, or the camera is visible enough to act as a deterent.

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        • cyclefaster
          November 27, 2020 at 6:15 pm
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          Perhaps it is a case of
          Perhaps it is a case of getting used to it. I do cycle in a built up area but over time my commute has changed to my preferred route rather than the most direct. I prefer moving traffic to slowing and speeding up at lights and junctions as thats where I see the close passes.

          I’ve been knocked off the once and surprisingly i was ok about it. We are all human and make mistakes. I could tolerate it being a careless driver drifting out from a junction without looking properly rather than a deliberate choice to make a dangerous and reckless move than puts people at risk if that makes sense.

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          • Bungle_52
            November 28, 2020 at 7:53 am
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            It does make sense and I

            It does make sense and I agree. When I first commuted I started cyling in on a main road into Cheltenham. I had a racing bike and could go quite fast but I got annoyed at drivers overtaking at 60 mph within a foot of me. I just thought it was something I had to put up with. I had a break from cycling for a number of years and when I started up again I took the same route. The close passes became more common and eventually I found a route through the local racecourse and then onto a cycle path along a disused railway line. Little bits of relatively quiet roads in between made quieter by the time I used to travel, arriving at work around 8:15. It was slower but much more enjoyable with less pollution in my lungs. I cycled evry day for 2 years till I retired.

            I carried on cycling for getting around after I retired and learned to accept that motorists didn’t like the fact that I would keep catching them up and overtaking them. I could choose what time I cycled most of the time so I chose the quiter times. Eventually I decided that I had as much right as motorists to use the roads and found this site. It lead me to getting a camera which I tried out a few times and then lost interest. Then came lockdown and I realised how enjoyable cycling could be. I also realised that many people would be put off cycling when lockdown ended and felt that we had a duty to try and restore a bit of order to our roads in order to get people on their bikes. I got a camera and I am just starting to submit footage. It’s not easy with Gloucestershire but they now have a site that allows footage to be uploaded that I am trying to work out how to use. There is never any shortage of footage.

            I just wish that the police would give you feedback and that careless drivers could be given advice but aggressive drivers could be given something more serious.

      • Rendel Harris
        November 27, 2020 at 4:20 pm
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        cyclefaster wrote:

        I don’t really understand how Jeremy Vine gets involved in so many near misses. I guess if you spend more time on the road you are more likely to encounter dangerous driving but I’ve commuted by bike for years must be quite lucky to have experienced an only a small number of incidents of bad driving in that time.

        — cyclefaster

        I commute Peckham-Chelsea-Peckham three or four times a week and it’s a very rare ride that I’m not at least one of badly close passed, left hooked, nearly hit by red-light-running drivers (and cyclists, I regret to say) and/or sworn at and physically threatened. It’s bad and it’s been getting worse in recent months, I’m sure as a result of the Daily Mail and others campaigning against cyclists. I quite enjoy it, in a perverse sort of way, a bit like running with the bulls at Pamplona, but I can see why less experienced or robust riders (I’m a 14 stone and 6 foot ex-rugby player who’s been riding in London nearly forty years) would be badly put off.

        It’s not just my imagination, by the way, police are currently prosecuting four drivers on the basis on videos I’ve sent them since the beginning of October, and I only send them the very worst could-have-been-fatal incidents.

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      • hawkinspeter
        November 27, 2020 at 4:37 pm
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        cyclefaster wrote:

        I don’t really understand how Jeremy Vine gets involved in so many near misses. I guess if you spend more time on the road you are more likely to encounter dangerous driving but I’ve commuted by bike for years must be quite lucky to have experienced an only a small number of incidents of bad driving in that time.

        — cyclefaster

        I think it depends on the time of day and particular roads.

        When I was commuting, I was submitting a close pass maybe one or two times a month on average. Now that I’ve been cycling different roads and at different times, I haven’t had a close pass for months which is great. (Hope I haven’t just cursed myself)

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        • stonojnr
          November 27, 2020 at 10:33 pm
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          certainly the roads I would

          certainly the roads I would normally be commuting on are an absolute magnet for them, but since the first lockdown ended the roads everywhere, even the ones in the middle of nowhere, have just felt alot more hostile for cycling on lately,  Id say Im having to review approx 5 incidents per ride at the moment for submission to the police, and their response at the moment is just to send the letter due to Covid, so it feels like whats the point anyway.

          But then they are dealing with things like they had a speed check in a village I often cycle through, they caught a bus,with passengers, being driven at 44mph in a 30mph limit, and that wasnt even the fastest speed they recorded. Or another road I cycle on alot, a lorry driver drove into a cyclist at a roundabout, the cyclist then had to be airlifted to Addenbrookes in a critical condition.

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      • hmas1974
        November 28, 2020 at 7:44 am
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        I’ve commuted into Central
        I’ve commuted into Central London by bike for around 20 years. I became oblivious to all but the most egregious close classes or dangerous driving.

        This year, for obvious reasons, I’ve been working from home and using my evening commute times to do a training loop or laps of Richmond Park.

        I noticed that I quite quickly became more aware of the number of close passes I received on a daily basis.

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  9. wtjs
    November 27, 2020 at 5:44 pm
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    The shocks are coming thick

    The shocks are coming thick and fast:

    Tory MPs condemn cycle lane

    Cycle lane full of parked vehicles

    Bloke who always acts ‘toffs’ condemns cycle lane for causing the traffic jams, in a column in the Mail, and drones on about cyclists remaining unpunished for passing traffic lights at red. Presumably he’s worried about the damage and injury these cyclists could cause to cars and lorries and their occupants

    This Astra went on to crash through the lights on 10.7.20, over 1.3 seconds after they turned red (the car wasn’t even in view when they turned) and over 4 months later I’m still battling against the passive resistance to prosecuting the case- this resistance has consisted of Lancashire Constabulary just refusing to respond.

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    • bobinski
      November 27, 2020 at 6:57 pm
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      Complain to your local Police

      Complain to your local Police Crime Commissioner.

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      • wtjs
        November 27, 2020 at 7:27 pm
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        Very amusing! The Lancashire

        Very amusing! The Lancashire PCC has a staff who know very little about policing, simply sit around writing Policing Care Plans and always defer to the police over operational matters. There simply is no second tier complaints system at Lancashire Constabulary, and the first tier (where some policeman shamelessly takes several months to agree with whatever the first policeman said) is as bent as you would expect. However, when I collect enough cases of refusal to prosecute red light crashing drivers, I will follow it through to the end, as well as writing to Ben Wallace, MP. You must have cast iron evidence, but the police now have the pretend prosecution dodge where they claim to be prosecuting, take statements etc., but know that they can delay the case for at least 2 years by blaming the courts. Offending drivers know this, so they just don’t respond to NIPs.

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        • Nigel Garrage
          November 27, 2020 at 8:17 pm
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          wtjs wrote:

          Very amusing! The Lancashire PCC has a staff who know very little about policing, simply sit around writing Policing Care Plans and always defer to the police over operational matters. There simply is no second tier complaints system at Lancashire Constabulary, and the first tier (where some policeman shamelessly takes several months to agree with whatever the first policeman said) is as bent as you would expect. However, when I collect enough cases of refusal to prosecute red light crashing drivers, I will follow it through to the end, as well as writing to Ben Wallace, MP. You must have cast iron evidence, but the police now have the pretend prosecution dodge where they claim to be prosecuting, take statements etc., but know that they can delay the case for at least 2 years by blaming the courts. Offending drivers know this, so they just don’t respond to NIPs.

          — wtjs

          You should complain to Clive Grunshaw, the Labour Police Crime Commissioner for Lancashire, rather than to your local MP – https://www.lancashire.police.uk/contact-us/general-contact-information/police-and-crime-commissioner/.

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        • David9694
          November 28, 2020 at 8:25 am
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          “Not invented here” is the

          “Not invented here” is the problem you’re up against – somehow, you’ve got to get the other guy to recognise and take ownership of the problem for himself.

          Your driver hasn’t in their eyes done anything to cause wider/moral offence – unless he was a cyclist, of course, then we’d never hear the end of it. 

          Grannies and eggs here but my guess is that this is seen as a trivial, victimless, technical breach. My little bit of experience of enforcement is very clear that you identify and stay out of grudge matches and away from (what you perceive as) fanatics and zealots. 

          In describing all the above, don’t get me wrong I’m not for one moment endorsing it, just the reality of it.  Under this paradigm, you won’t get them to take action – the shutters are up.  A moment might arise where you can tear them down and shame them into action – very nice, but where does that leave you in the longer term? 

          Get back to your objective and think about your approach how to achieve it  – my suggestion is that you don’t batter the other guy, rather you seek to include him, get him on board.  

          Good luck!

           

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  10. EK Spinner
    November 28, 2020 at 10:20 am
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    watching that Jeremy Vine

    watching that Jeremy Vine video I have tried to step through the frames but the footage is quite wobbly, I think I can see 2 different vehicles with HiViz/battenburg markings, so was this idiocy witnessed by the police as well ?

    I so wish the Reg No was visible or the city had a plethora of CCTV cameras to trace the vehicle. The driver of that needs to be stopped before they kill

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Rendel Harris 3 hours ago

And how are those attracted/paid for? Through bigger audiences. There are 53 million black people in the USA, and around 1.2 billion in Africa. How much extra sponsorship and TV coverage do you think women's racing might get if there were a few black US and African women competing? That's not, in your idiotic phrase, "wokeism", it's good sound commercial common sense.

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog
perce 4 hours ago

@chrisonabike I don't know how they would get confused - one's called Jack and one's called Nigel.

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog
Mr Blackbird 4 hours ago

There is so much depressing deja vu here. The defence factors taken from the usual tick box list : "poor lighting", "dark clothes", "didn't see him" etc. The usual rehabilitation path comments : "full of remorse". The common previous : "drugs, and alcohol", "no licence" etc. Even your comments about the tipper truck industry ring a bell. Look up the 1957 British film "Hell Drivers", if you haven't seen it. It must have have been inspired by events of the time. I did wonder why Renshaw had been on remand. Was he a flight risk?

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
Midgex 4 hours ago

The cycle path at that point is (part of) the main road, not the side road.

in: Cycle path “creating a constant stream of arguments between drivers and cyclists” should be altered “so cyclists give way to vehicles”, demands councillor expelled from Reform UK
mctrials23 4 hours ago

Its not fucking careless if you drive a vehicle and don't check your mirrors. Its fucking dangerous and its fucking deadly. How on earth are we still dealing with this bollocks. Everything about this is maddening. The fact he tried to weasel out of it and blame the cyclist. The fact hes avoided prison. The fact he was still driving after such a long history of dangerous driving. The fact he is still only banned for 12 months despite killing someone due to his inability to drive safely.

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
the little onion 4 hours ago

The tipper truck industry is an absolute Wild West. Scandal ridden, partly because of the complete lack of regulatory oversight and the pay-by-the-load system which incentives dodgy driving. I hope there is an investigation into the firm’s recruitment process and a corporate manslaughter charge. We urgently need a HSE investigation into the whole industry

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
chrisonabike 5 hours ago

Perhaps they're confusing the writer with a certain - ahem - new poster?

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog
ktache 5 hours ago

My deepest condolences to the family and friends of Zinovly Savyulak.

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
mdavidford 5 hours ago

Sounds like a recommendation to me - after all, who'd want their writing to be emotionally empty?

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog
mdavidford 5 hours ago

I think MM's point is more fatally flawed than that - people *do* complain about inequality in running. There might be less inequality than in cycling, but there's still an over-representation of white people and barriers to participation.

in: “Representation matters”: America’s only black female pro cyclist calls out lack of diversity at Tour de France Femmes; Cyclist riding through Norway slams drivers for “near-death encounters”; AI cyclist Mercedes/Canyon nightmare + more on the live blog

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