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Levenshulme LTN vandalised
Levenshulme LTN vandalised (screenshot from Twitter video) (Image Credit: screenshot from Twitter video)

LTN vandals film themselves ramming another new planter; Pro cyclist serving lifetime ban doesn’t want ‘who knows what sh*t’ Covid vaccine; Drosi Bikes convert old bikes into e-bikes; Dutch police trial blue flashing bike lights + more on the live blog

It’s Friday and the weekend is almost in sight. Dan Alexander is here for the final live blog of the week
  • by Dan Alexander
Fri, Jan 08, 2021 09:18
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SUMMARY

  • Former pro cyclist serving lifetime ban doesn't want 'who knows what sh*t' Covid vaccine
  • 'Low carbon heroes': Welsh pair turn unwanted bicycles into e-bikes to help new riders access cycling for a fraction of the price
  • When all else fails...
  • Laura Kenny learns to love virtual cycling during lockdown
  • Dutch police experiment with blue flashing lights for officers on bikes
  • An all too familiar feeling here in the UK
  • LTN vandals film themselves ramming another new planter
  • Bob Jackon Cycles closure: legendary bike builder says investors pulled out at the last minute
  • Christ on a bike
  • 20th anniversary Bicycle Film Festival held at Edinburgh Festival of Cycling
  • Danish ultracyclist breaks 'vEveresting' record on Alpe d'Zwift
  • Friday scenes in Levenshulme now that LTN planters have been bolted down
  • Cofidis to launch women's team in 2022
  • Chris Froome announces that Israel Start-Up Nation will use Hammerhead computers in 2021
  • Chris Boardman praises swift action to repair Levenshulme LTN
Levenshulme LTN vandalised
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8 January 2021, 09:18

Former pro cyclist serving lifetime ban doesn't want 'who knows what sh*t' Covid vaccine

Riccardo Ricco is apparently anti-vaxxer who is scared of what these substances will do to his body.

Priceless. Bless him pic.twitter.com/Ip4wYVJUlP

— José Been (@TourDeJose) January 7, 2021

Riccardo Riccò, banned from cycling by anti-doping authorities, does not trust the Covid vaccine…In a Facebook post that has since been deleted, he said: “I read a lot of people who say that the vaccine must be mandatory. Are we joking! I do what I want with my body. Nobody can make me do something that if it were to have a negative effect on my body, I would be the only one that would lose.

“You can get injected with who knows what shit too, but don’t fuck [over] people like me that have been well informed (by doctors).”

Just last month, Riccò was handed a lifetime ban from the sport by Italian anti-doping authorities. A report in Gazzetta dello Sport linked the three-time Giro d’Italia stage winner to a 2015 Italian anti-doping investigation which saw former Inter Milan and Napoli footballer Giovanni Bia receive a two-year ban. It was the third time Riccò had been sanctioned, with previous transgressions including testing positive for an EPO variant, being thrown out of the 2008 Tour de France and banned for 20 months. 

In 2010, Riccò was rushed to hospital in a critical condition with kidney failure and sepsis following a botched blood transfusion. The incident led to him being sacked by his new team, Vacansoleil, and at the time of the lifetime suspension he was already serving a 12-year ban…

8 January 2021, 09:18

'Low carbon heroes': Welsh pair turn unwanted bicycles into e-bikes to help new riders access cycling for a fraction of the price

Electric cycles are a great way to make #cycling for essential everyday journeys more accessible, and can help build on fitness and #cycling ability, via @BBCNews @drosibikes https://t.co/PgXqtk65J9 pic.twitter.com/hm354VsbZs

— Sustrans (@sustrans) January 7, 2021

Beth Ward and Robin Hughes have been labelled as “low carbon heroes” by the Welsh Government for turning unwanted old bicycles into e-bikes. They hope it will help encourage new cyclists to hit the road without the cost of buying a new bike. 

“We could see people were cycling more. They had the time, the roads were quieter and people were beginning to dust off their old bikes, which they probably hadn’t used for years,” Robin told the BBC.

“People are beginning to learn that the great thing about e-bikes is that you can cycle further for longer. You can choose to pedal or use the motor. Either way, you are being more active yourself and you will be using the car less.”

Robin and Beth aim to convert as many bikes as they can with their social enterprise business Drosi Bikes and can turn an old bike into an e-bike for a fraction of the cost of buying new.

8 January 2021, 09:18

When all else fails...

Quick service on the road🔧😎 pic.twitter.com/QFvGb9ybNh

— Awesome Cycling 🚵‍♀️🚵‍♂️ (@AwesomeCycling) January 7, 2021

8 January 2021, 09:18

Laura Kenny learns to love virtual cycling during lockdown

Laura Kenny and Emily Nelson  Alex Whitehead:SWpix.com_
Laura Kenny and Emily Nelson Alex Whitehead:SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Laura Kenny and Emily Nelson  Alex Whitehead:SWpix.com_
Laura Kenny and Emily Nelson Alex Whitehead:SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Four-time Olympic gold medallist Laura Kenny was converted to the world of virtual cycling during lockdown. She told the Independent: “Lockdown changed my static bike mentality. I’ve always told my mum to go outside when it’s nice and sunny rather than use a static bike, but lockdown happened and it changed me as a person. I love Zwift because you have to concentrate the whole time. I used to think it was mind-numbing, even if I put a film on in the background, turbo was so boring for me.

“I do four hours a day online and I really enjoy it now. You’re racing other people and although you can’t just sit on someone else’s wheel like in real life, I don’t mind it at all.”

However, she isn’t convinced that competitive virtual cycling should be included in the Olympics: “I struggle with the Championships a little bit,” Kenny said.

“You’ve got power and heart rate monitored, but I think there are so many ways people aren’t honest on Zwift. There’s a very different element to actual racing with the drag factor. I get why e-sports works with staying indoors and not travelling in the pandemic. But is gaming a sport? Can you really call it a sport? It isn’t physical, is it? Sports like archery and shooting, they’re about concentration and mental skills but also hand-eye co-ordination. I struggle with the idea of gaming in the Olympics.”

8 January 2021, 09:18

Dutch police experiment with blue flashing lights for officers on bikes

Dutch police blue flashing bike lights (via Politie.NL)
Dutch police blue flashing bike lights (via Politie (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dutch police blue flashing bike lights (via Politie.NL)
Dutch police blue flashing bike lights (via Politie (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Some Dutch police officers who patrol by bicycle will now have blue flashing lights to boost their visibility. Dutch News reports trials are taking place in six parts of the country and will be expanded nationwide if successful. The lights can be turned on if the officers need to stop at an incident or if they are responding to a call at night. Despite looking like the lights on police cars, they will not give officers priority on the road or at traffic lights.

The scheme was police cyclist Nick Schuermans’ idea. He said: “Police cyclists are not always easily seen. On the one hand, that is to our advantage if we don’t want to be noticed during surveillance, but on the other, there are situations when you really want to be visible.”

8 January 2021, 09:18

An all too familiar feeling here in the UK

I don’t know what is more painful…the cold feet/hands while riding in the cold or the in shower feeling when hands and feet warming up again…. pic.twitter.com/tpnxlJMKia

— Andre Greipel (@AndreGreipel) January 7, 2021

8 January 2021, 09:18

LTN vandals film themselves ramming another new planter

@ManCityCouncil They are at it again. The Planters need to be bolted down ASAP. https://t.co/VwUMdXxHBM pic.twitter.com/D7VmRDC8CY

— James Stafford (@Jamesdestafford) January 7, 2021

LTN vandals returned to Levenshulme last night, ramming another planter. The planters were only installed on Monday but have already been targeted by a driver, repaired by residents and vandalised again. A social media post this morning showed that the planters have now been bolted down and bollards installed to prevent drivers from mounting the pavement to get past.

On Tuesday, after repairing the previously vandalised planter, Streets for People said: “The community won’t stand for vandalism, and it does your cause no good. These filters are public property, supported by the vast majority of residents. Well done to all who got these plant boxes back standing proud in a couple of hours.”

Great to see bollards being added to prevent people bypassing the Levenshulme filters by driving on the footway, as well as the planters being bolted down to prevent vandalism.

However, I would ask @ManCityCouncil to ensure that pavements are left a 1.5m gap to remain accessible pic.twitter.com/UyrkLiZE4g

— Sam 🚴🌱🍻Ⓥ (@MCRCycleSam) January 8, 2021

8 January 2021, 09:18

Bob Jackon Cycles closure: legendary bike builder says investors pulled out at the last minute

Bob Jackson Audax Club 631  56cmwith NEW Shimano 105 11sp Groupset.
Bob Jackson Audax Club 631 56cmwith NEW Shimano 105 11sp Groupset (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Bob Jackson Audax Club 631  56cmwith NEW Shimano 105 11sp Groupset.
Bob Jackson Audax Club 631 56cmwith NEW Shimano 105 11sp Groupset (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Following a U-turn in which the 85-year-old Sheffield frame maker says it has now ceased trading with immediate effect, a representative told road.cc: “The new buyers/management team who were due to sign and take over last Monday pulled out at the very last minute.” 

It will come as a disappointment to many who were pleased when in late November, the company said it wouldn’t be closing after all thanks to “additional investment”; however, this latest annoucement appears to be final. 

8 January 2021, 09:18

Christ on a bike

Christ on a bike! pic.twitter.com/tL685SLW2z

— Bouncycastlequeen (@Mooley) January 8, 2021

 Christ is picking up your order. Christ is on a bicycle. We’ve got too many questions…Most importantly what bike is he riding? Giant Trinity? Santa Cruz? Or is it a cycloCROSS bike? Specialized Cru(cifi)x? Canyon Holy Grail? That’s the combined effort of the road.cc team, don’t just blame me… 

he’s delivering us all from evil

— Galileo (@7january1610) January 8, 2021

8 January 2021, 09:18

20th anniversary Bicycle Film Festival held at Edinburgh Festival of Cycling

The online festival will be held from January 15 to 24 and all content is available for streaming from 7pm on the 15th. The festival is a celebration of bikes and the people who ride them through the media of art, film and music. The film selection includes: a story about a charismatic Ghanian immigrant in Amsterdam who teaches refugee adult women to ride bikes as well as a bird’s-eye view of a BLM bicycle protest ride from New York to Washington DC.

8 January 2021, 09:18

Danish ultracyclist breaks 'vEveresting' record on Alpe d'Zwift

Michael Knudsen vEveresting record
Michael Knudsen vEveresting record (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Michael Knudsen vEveresting record
Michael Knudsen vEveresting record (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Michael Knudsen has added another impressive achievement to his palmares of ultracycling records. In 2017, he climbed 45,000 metres, equivalent to the combined height of the highest peak on each continent in one week. While in 2019 he rode a 5,000km virtual Race Across America on Zwift from the confines of a Copenhagen shopping centre.

Now, he has broken the ‘vEveresting’ (that’s short for virtual Everesting, not a Friday afternoon typo) world record for the fastest virtual Everest in a time of 7 hours, 17 minutes and 56 seconds on Alpe d’Zwift. Michael told us: “Actually it was very spontaneous. I did a triple ascent of Alpe d’Zwift recon ride last Monday to dial in my pace and then hammered it on Wednesday. I want do a real Everesting outside in the Spring so it was a good indicator of what power I can sustain for seven and a half hours.

“Now I’m focusing on the pro Zwift races in the Premier Division and I’ll go to the European Ultra Champs in Italy in May if Coronavirus allows and I’m currently looking into TransCanada which has 12,500 km of unsupported racing!”

8 January 2021, 09:18

Friday scenes in Levenshulme now that LTN planters have been bolted down

Active Neighbourhood trial day 5: Little ones are already taking advantage of safer streets. This is why we do what we do.

Also good to see some quick responses by @ManCityCouncil to vandalism, and improvements such as bollards on pavements and signs. pic.twitter.com/5UscoWGWSm

— Streets for People – Levenshulme and Burnage (@s4plb) January 8, 2021

8 January 2021, 09:18

Cofidis to launch women's team in 2022

En 2022, nous aurons une équipe féminine au sein de @TeamCOFIDIS, annonce @ThVittu. Une très belle initiative, en phase avec les valeurs et les missions de @Cofidis et de @CreditMutuel Alliance Fédérale. #CofidisMyTeam #diversité #égalité pic.twitter.com/cZZTdLxFaM

— Daniel Baal (@BaalDaniel) January 8, 2021

Pro cycling ever-presents Cofidis will launch a women’s team for 2022. Team president Thierry Vittu made the announcement earlier today in a move that will make the team the eight men’s WorldTour outfit to also have a women’s squad. 

“I have the habit of saying that a sports team should be a representation of the Cofidis company. We have the men’s pro team and the paracycling section, and they reflect a good part of what the Cofidis company is, but it’s a group of 5,500 people in which the majority are women. So something is missing. We will have a women’s team as part of the Cofidis group from 2022. It won’t be this year because we need time to put it together and gather the resources, but in 2022 we will certainly have one,” Vittu said.

8 January 2021, 09:18

Chris Froome announces that Israel Start-Up Nation will use Hammerhead computers in 2021

Welcome to the team @hammerheadrides & @HJCAHelmets 🙌
📸 @veloimages pic.twitter.com/QKYpNvb741

— Chris Froome (@chrisfroome) January 7, 2021

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  1. RobD
    January 8, 2021 at 9:49 am
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    I’d hope he’s aware of the

    I’d hope he’s aware of the irony in what he’s saying, but I fear not

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  2. mdavidford
    January 8, 2021 at 10:10 am
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    It sounds like a great

    It sounds like a great initiative and all, but I’m not sure I’d want a ‘drossi’ ebike…

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    • Secret_squirrel
      January 8, 2021 at 10:17 am
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      Good piece on their Mid-motor

      Good piece on their Mid-motor here from someone who has tinkered with them.  I didnt realise you could now get mid-motors that fit a standard 68mm BB shell – a good way to fill a gap in the market.   Much more elegant than the “Deliveroo Special Wheel” mounted motors

      Experimenting with the TongSheng TSDZ2 Mid drive system Part 1

       

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      • jollygoodvelo
        January 8, 2021 at 12:59 pm
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        The Bafang BBS01/02/HD

        The Bafang BBS01/02/HD (sometimes available white-labelled) and Tongsheng TSDZ2 have both been around for a while now, Dave of this parish wrote an article on converting bikes some time ago: https://road.cc/ebiketips/content/advice/features/how-easy-is-it-to-convert-your-bike-to-an-e-bike-640

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        • Secret_squirrel
          January 8, 2021 at 8:27 pm
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          Thanks for this. The panda

          Thanks for this. The panda kit reviewed appears to be a bit more primitive than the Bafang ones. 

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    • Drosi Bikes CIC
      January 8, 2021 at 2:42 pm
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      Thanks for posting about us!

      Thanks for posting about us!

      Just to clear up any confusion, ‘Drosi’ is a Welsh word meaning ‘to convert or to turn something into another for a particular purpose’.

      All the best from the Drosi Team!

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      • mdavidford
        January 8, 2021 at 2:51 pm
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        Well it does sound a little

        Well it does sound a little less off-putting now that the extra ‘s’ has been removed. 

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  3. OldRidgeback
    January 8, 2021 at 10:15 am
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    Quite a few people I know

    Quite a few people I know from the old raving days who frequently took this and that back in the day have now been transformed into anti-vaxxers who won’t entertainthe idea of taking the vaccines against COVID 19. There is the irony.

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    • TitanDave
      January 8, 2021 at 10:55 am
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      Irony kills, maybe not them

      Irony kills, maybe not them but whoever they pass it on to. Maybe they’ve listened to ‘injected with a posion’ (an old skool fave of mine) too often! 🙂 

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  4. wycombewheeler
    January 8, 2021 at 10:27 am
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    Putting unknown stuff in the

    Putting unknown stuff in the body to win a bike race? yes please

    Taking unknown chemicals sourced from some geezer at a rave? yes please

    Putting regulated medicines tested and approved by the authorities around the world in the body to save lives? no thanks

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    • Awavey
      January 8, 2021 at 11:07 am
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      I did wonder the other day
      I did wonder the other day though how long it would be till someone failed a doping test, and blamed it on a Covid injection, as the vaccine maybe deemed safe and is regulated, but has the research been fully done to be able to withstand a CAS appeal to check all of the variants that are now in use, dont result in unexpected false elevations of results for a blood passport ? As I doubt it’s been top of the list of things to check, and already seen some demand all athletes for Tokyo202(1)0 are vaccinated before entering Japan.

      Also what happened to the no needles policy ?

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  5. eburtthebike
    January 8, 2021 at 11:30 am
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    Let’s face it, anyone who’s

    Let’s face it, anyone who’s eaten a burger or a hot dog hasn’t got a leg to stand on about what they put into their body.

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    • cdamian
      January 8, 2021 at 1:11 pm
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      eburtthebike wrote:

      Let’s face it, anyone who’s eaten a burger or a hot dog hasn’t got a leg to stand on about what they put into their body.

      — eburtthebike

      Someone on a German Techo forum pointed out that most people there had put stuff in their bodies just based on a random logo on a pill.

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  6. cdamian
    January 8, 2021 at 11:50 am
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    Wiggle answered me about

    Wiggle answered me about orders to Europe. All fine, probably a bit more expensive, but I can still sink my money into the UK!

    https://twitter.com/Wiggle_Sport/status/1346487381013180416:

    Hi Christof, from 01/01/21 all Wiggle orders to the EU are shipped duty paid. This means all duties and taxes are included in the prices on our product pages, and you will not have any further taxes/import charges to pay at customs. We hope this information helps.
     

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  7. mdavidford
    January 8, 2021 at 3:06 pm
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    “We have had to reschedule

    “We have had to reschedule the second coming. This will now take place between 2047 and 2247.”

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    • hawkinspeter
      January 8, 2021 at 3:23 pm
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      mdavidford wrote:

      “We have had to reschedule the second coming. This will now take place between 2047 and 2247.”

      — mdavidford

      Again, fake news. Everyone knows he drives a Honda.

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      • Philh68
        January 9, 2021 at 1:27 am
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        No, no, no. It was the

        No, no, no. It was the disciples who were of one Accord. The man himself is Mopar and GM through and through, to ride a white Charger and separate the sheep from the goats (which we know is a GTO) ?

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  8. mdavidford
    January 8, 2021 at 11:24 pm
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    Quote:

    a move that will make the team the eight men’s WorldTour outfit to also have a women’s squad.

    Think that could have been worded a little better – as it is it suggests the women’s squads are just a bit of an add-on – an extension to the men’s – rather than of equal value in their own right.

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  9. Gozzy
    January 9, 2021 at 7:35 am
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    Frankly I’m amazed no ones

    Frankly I’m amazed no ones pointed out that Bob Jackson cycles are famously from Leeds not Sheffield. 

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    • Spangly Shiny
      January 9, 2021 at 8:10 am
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      Stanningley Road Bramley, not
      Stanningley Road Bramley, not Leeds. Woodrup is in Leeds and is still going strong.

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      • Gozzy
        January 9, 2021 at 8:44 am
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        If you wish to be precise yes

        If you wish to be precise yes. In which case woodrup is in Kirkstall, or maybe Burley. But the Bob Jackson  logo pretty clearly says Leeds on it not Bramley, doesn’t it?

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  10. TheBillder
    January 9, 2021 at 8:51 am
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    Better link for the Edinburgh
    Better link for the Edinburgh Festival of Cycling: https://edfoc.org.uk/events/20th-anniversary-of-bicycle-film-festival-is-going-virtual/.

    The one in the blog is just about tickets and is a bit shorter on details.

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Rendel Harris 29 minutes ago

@Sreedlums That's hilarious, the article is literally about two Decathlon Tour de France bikes and comparing them. It says that everywhere, in the headline, in the subhead, in the body text. It says it's "a good excuse to look back at how Decathlon’s top-level race bikes have changed over the last 25 years", how on earth can you get from that to "this article was *not* about these two bikes"? Go on swearing black is white all you want, but you are totally wrong.

in: Paul Seixas’ unreleased Van Rysel shows just how far Decathlon’s Tour de France bikes have come in 25 years
whosatthewheel 55 minutes ago

@Sriracha They have got what makes bicycles be recognized by the public as bicycles, and what motorbikes haven't got - pedals, that's why.

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Sredlums 56 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris Oh wait, so now the article is only about Decathlon's TdF bikes? Because that's in the headline? That's funny, because in your previous comment you said "I think if you look really hard you can see this is an article about how Tour de France bikes have changed",. So, which is it? You can keep cherry-picking snippets of text, but it doesn't change the fact that this article was *not* about these two bikes, nor was it about TdF bikes. This article took these two bikes as examples of top road bikes of their time, to take a broader look at how road bike tech has changed in 30 years. And my original comment was about exactly that; road bikes then and now.

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Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

@Sredlums Did you miss this bit? See the words "Tour de France bikes" there? Easy to miss, only being in the headline and all...

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Sredlums 1 hour ago

@Rendel Harris Except of course, Rendel, it is not. This sentence is in the intro of this article: "We compare Jaan Kirsipuu’s early-2000s AG2R race bike with Paul Seixas’ latest machine to chart a quarter of a century of tech progress", and this is the sentence with which they end the article: "Would you like to have a soft spot for bike tech of the past? Or is it best left to history?". Nowhere does it say they are looking only at bikes from the TdF. They honed in on these two specific Decathlon bikes to compare bike tech then with bike tech now.

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Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

@Sredlums Well, Sredlums, I think if you look really hard you can see this is an article about how Tour de France bikes have changed, so if you were talking about road bikes in general (which you did not make clear) it was your comment, not my reply, that was not pertinent.

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mdavidford 6 hours ago

Looking at Google shopping results for 'road bike', and then at a variety of retailer sites (Halfords, Decathlon, Sigma Sports, Ribble, Winstanleys, etc. etc., plus a couple of our local shops with ecommerce presence), on none of them are more than about one in eight black or dark grey, and often that's just one of a number of colour choices. So if there are a preponderance of such bikes around, it seems like it's less because bikes have become more 'boring' than it is because the people buying them have.

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Sredlums 7 hours ago

@Rendel Harris Well, Rendel, I think if you look really hard you can see that I wrote "how much more boring road bikes have become" and not 'how much more boring road bikes IN THE TOUR DE FRANCE have become". Simply look around you, when you see a group of road bikers pass by. Look in the bike shops. It's black, black, more black, some dark grey, more dark grey, matte. And black parts, like on all the bikes you showed as an example.

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GravelIsNothingNew 9 hours ago

Exactly. Agree. But that doesn’t give ProCycling a free pass – instead the UCI and all pro teams should be leading the way as ambassadors for cycling as the greenest sport. Pro cycling could be green, but it will take significant change. Frighteningly however, it’s greenwashing that is still the aim and motivation for the majority of pro cycling sponsors. It’s not good enough. Such sponsorships should be banned. Like tobacco and alcohol. It’s as simple as that. Our planet is sending a very clear message through ProCycling – not sustainable.

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GravelIsNothingNew 9 hours ago

Exactly. Agree. But that doesn’t give ProCycling a free pass - instead the UCI and all pro teams should be leading the way as ambassadors for cycling as the greenest sport. Pro cycling could be green, but it will take significant change. Frighteningly however, it’s greenwashing that is still the aim and motivation for the majority of pro cycling sponsors. It’s not good enough. Such sponsorships should be banned. Like tobacco and alcohol. It’s as simple as that. Our planet is sending a very clear message through ProCycling - not sustainable.

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