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Must be undercover cyclists…commuter catches five drivers jumping red light; Christ on a bike; Thieves raid storage — 15 bikes stolen; No Van Aert at CX Worlds reaction; Pain cave playlist; Infra plans; Tackling cycle crime + more on the live blog
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Must be undercover cyclists...commuter catches five drivers jumping red light
Like these bloody cyclists dressed as drivers. pic.twitter.com/BwV0dgaPsM
— Greg Shickle (@GregShickle) January 5, 2022
It’s one of, if not the most common sentence we hear uttered by people bashing cyclists, normally when we’re discussing an issue of road safety completely unrelated…”what about all the cyclists who don’t stop at red lights?”
Well, those pesky cyclists have gone undercover. Five drivers, including a London cabbie, and one person on a bike, are seen rushing through this temporary traffic light on red.
CyclingMikey got involved suggesting Greg reports the video for a likely prosecution.
Others debated whether the lights had been stuck on red for a while…
Um, they were working, there’s a red light showing. If you mean they were stuck then that’s not a defence, still 3 points and a fine.
— Gareth (@GarethM79) January 6, 2022
Now, we’re assuming Greg isn’t still stood waiting for the lights to change, and eventually got the green light he was waiting for…but here’s what the relevant section of the Highway Code says:
You MUST NOT move forward over the white line when the red light is showing. Only go forward when the traffic lights are green if there is room for you to clear the junction safely or you are taking up a position to turn right. If the traffic lights are not working, treat the situation as you would an unmarked junction and proceed with great care.
> Highway Code changes aimed at protecting cyclists to become law next month
Greg replied to one driver saying they had stuck to the Highway Code’s guidance…
Loving how they proceeded with caution.
Interesting how this really upset you. The idea that drivers jump red lights too.
— Greg Shickle (@GregShickle) January 6, 2022
Christ on a bike
Christ on a bike! pic.twitter.com/QzFKCBRsQ8
— Victoria 🎀 (@vickyallover) January 5, 2022
He rode for 40 days and 40 nights to complete the Strava challenge, Everesting Mount Sinai each day…
I forget whence I stole this. pic.twitter.com/zumilnvdFy
— Jon Roach (@FourT4) January 5, 2022
New waterproof gilet from Ridgecrest Clothing


Custom-made fitted frame bags and luggage can be added to Cotic’s subtle steel Escapade gravel bike, and the man behind designing and producing these in the UK, David Turner, has now ventured into cycling clothing with his new Ridgecrest Clothing brand.
Ridgecrest Clothing has recently released its first apparel product, a waterproof gilet (£44.95) which has been handmade in the UK and looks pretty stylish – there’s the choice between Navy, Yellow, Grey and Red, all with a maroon zipper down the middle.
The gilet uses a PU coated polyester to EN343 grade 3 which is the highest level of breathability for a waterproof material and all seams are top stitched with maroon thread. Across the back there’s a 20cm x 50mm reflective strip for visibility in low light conditions.
The gilet is available from size small to XL as standard, but Ridgecrest also produces an XXL version (for 48” chest) and XXXL (51 in) for an extra £10.
Peterborough thieves raid communal shelters — 15 bikes stolen


The Peterborough Telegraph reports thieves raided shelters outside a block of flats, unscrewing railings to take 15 bikes. The thefts took place at community bike shelters along St Edmunds Walk and Eagles Way.
One resident said neighbours had chased the culprits and recovered as many bikes as they could before the thieves fled the scene.
Another told the local news website: “There’s not even a working light in the car park, so there definitely won’t be any CCTV of it happening. You really can’t have anything, it’s so unfair.”
Major Cardiff partnership established to tackle cycle crime


A partnership involving 19 organisations has been set up to tackle cycle crime in Cardiff and the Vale of Glamorgan. South Wales Police, Cardiff Council, Welsh Government, Vale of Glamorgan Council and bike hire provider nextbike are all involved.
The Cardiff Cycle Crime Reduction Partnership (CCCRP) will copy the model from nearby Newport where a 29 per cent reduction in cycle theft was seen in the year following the implementation a similar programme.
> Vandalism and theft force suspension of cycle hire schemes in South Wales
Police will use tactics such as trap bikes and marking bikes with Smartwater to catch offenders.
Last year, nextbike removed its fleet of OVO Bikes from the city following staggering levels of theft and vandalism.
Tom Pidcock, your time has arrived...reaction to Wout van Aert skipping CX Worlds
When the organizers of the world championship CX find out that van Aert and van der Poel won’t start pic.twitter.com/KZbAkv9Aay
— Cycling Memes (@Cycling_Memes1) January 5, 2022
Now that meme is out the way we can do the serious business…hyping up Tom Pidcock’s rainbow jersey chances…
Wout van Aert, as we told you on the blog yesterday, isn’t going to Fayetteville, citing the need to be in top shape for the spring Classics on the road. Mathieu van der Poel is out injured and has pulled the plug on his ‘cross season. So…Tom P, it’s your time to shine…
Good point. If either Van Aert or Van der Poel has to sit out CX worlds, it’s a better contest with them both sitting it out. Better to have a Clash of the Titans or a wide-open race rather than a one-man domination. Pidcock’s my favorite, but there are 4-5 riders who could win. https://t.co/1cMwA2HbFS
— Neal Rogers (@nealrogers) January 5, 2022
Pidcock: https://t.co/b5loGZLctq pic.twitter.com/00TXyEagwZ
— Caleb Swartz (@cswartzz) January 6, 2022
Major extension to west London cycleway planned — consultation running until mid-February


An extension to Cycleway 9 has been put forward by Transport for London. The plans would see the existing segregated infrastructure (seen above) extended between Brentford and Hounslow, including new and improved pedestrian crossings.
A consultation is open until Tuesday 16 February and the plans in full include: 4.1km of protected cycleway along Hounslow High Street, London Road and Brentford High Street.
A new signalised junction and improved pedestrian crossings are also part of the plans.
“We’ve seen a massive increase in people walking and cycling in the past few years,” London’s Walking and Cycling Commissioner Will Norman said.
“We are working closely with boroughs like Hounslow and Hammersmith & Fulham to help transform roads and make sure there is enough space for people to walk and cycle around the capital safely. If TfL secures a long-term financial deal with the Government which allows this cycleway extension to go ahead, pedestrians and cyclists could see huge benefits.”
Pain cave playlist: which bangers help get you through the turbo tedium?
Putting my turbo playlist together.
Glenn Frey – The Heat Is On
Tina Turner – Steamy Windows
Eminem – ‘Till I CollapseAnd what else…?#PainCavePlaylist #GoZwift
— Wiggle (@Wiggle_Sport) January 5, 2022
Do your worst…
Just don’t go full Chris Froome…last year the four-time Tour winner shared his playlist on Strava and got a fully justified roasting… Call Me Maybe, Jessie J, The Wanted, Uptown Funk, Olly Murs and the Sugababes…that’s one way to make your ears hurt more than your legs…
Who let the dogs (and their grumpy owners) out? Some classic local paper whataboutery


Dog(ma) news? No, not a new Pinarello model…just some unhappy dog walkers from Crawley…
The Crawley and Horley Observer was on the front line today in Tilgate Park, talking to punters about the proposed restrictions and fixed penalty notices to owners who haven’t got their pooch on a lead. I’m sure some of you will point out it’s the lead that often causes those on two wheels the most trouble…but, that’s not what we’re here for…
Cue the whataboutery…
“If dog owners get fined, so should runners and cyclists,” one told the local news site.
“It’s ridiculous to be honest with you. We’ve been coming up here since 1973. I’ve been told to put the dog on the lead when the runners have been coming up here. I refuse to do it. I said I’ve been coming up here for a long time, you’ve only been here for 5 years. They say my dog’s lead will trip them over. My dog’s insured, the runners are insured and it’s their problem if they injure themselves.” *Chef’s kiss* 10/10 ranting…
Controversial 'no cycling' signs painted on pavement near Kendal school
I know the back story to this, so I’ll do a short thread on it.
Nobody comes out of it looking good, except @KarenGee3, who’s been giving @CumbriaCC constructive feedback on this scheme until, as my Dad would say, she’s blue in the face. Not that it does much good.
— Jon Owen (@anotherJon) December 28, 2021
‘No cycling’ signs have been painted on the Shap Road pavement in Kendal over Christmas, prompting a Green Party activist to call for “better, safer options”. The move followed complaints from residents using the pavement which, according to the Westmorland Gazette, is “often boxed in by parked cars”.
Local resident and Green Party member Jon Owen spoke to the local paper about the problem of putting in obstacles to sustainable travel without providing safe alternatives. Owen explained using the pavement is the “least worst” option for getting children safely to school. He also shared this informative thread outlining the issue…
Here’s another street view, looking North, with the site of the southerly of the two new ‘No Cycling’ markings circled in green.
From the resident’s POV, having people on cycles fly past their front gate along the narrow pavement is a nuisance and a hazard. I get that.
(6/n) pic.twitter.com/vjN38kZJVl— Jon Owen (@anotherJon) December 28, 2021
What happened next? Unexpected sight follows textbook pass...
A driver in a small black car expertly passed me today on my ride out.
Just before a double bend.
I cycled up the road, turned the corner and discovered this…#cycling pic.twitter.com/X4GA9q1UmA
— Mark (@TheBossnME) January 5, 2022
The last thing Mark expected after this textbook pass was to find the driver…well, I’ll let you find out…no spoilers…
Lachlan Morton stays with EF Education-Nippo


Alternative calendar racer and all-round long-distance extraordinaire Lachlan Morton has been handed a contract extension with EF Education-Nippo. Morton and Alex Howes had initially not been included on the team’s registered rider list submitted to the UCI, but have now been confirmed.
“It’s a dynamic, fun, interesting, and very high potential roster of riders. his has the potential to be the strongest roster we’ve ever had,” team boss Jonathan Vaughters said. He also asked for suggestions…
Moving onward, question for all of you: What record/adventure would you like to see Lachlan attempt in 2022?
— Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) January 6, 2022
Race around Ireland (with a Guinness every few KMs) and crossing the Atlantic on a pedalo are the early front runners…never trust Twitter with a serious question…
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Hope: “here’s our latest frame that shows our amazing craftsmanship in an incredible eye catching finish” Hope: “no you can’t buy it apart from in Black - even at additional cost for the finish” 🤷♂️
Agree with that. But it doesn't look that packable from the pictures.
I've recently had a rotator cuff shoulder injury which has made signalling with my right arm difficult and painful (but cycling all day has been fine). This got me thinking I might need indicators (but bike mounted). Thankfully my shoulder is improving now, but I would have welcomed them if the only way to keep cycling safety. That, or move to Europe and have the left arm indicate my moves across traffic lanes.
As opposed to my Steel reynolds frame, where the top, down tubes were bent, and the lugs pushed into the top tube.
A minor dooring went just behind my saddle and hit the pannier rack. Bending it and the back wheel, also knocking me off causing grazes and ripped clothes. It was a young woman who was parking up outside work - a car sales garage. Her manager came out and was very good at calming the situation and offered to cover my losses. I was quite annoyed that the trousers I had bought only about a month before were then not in stock.
I use my Boost in day and night. In daytime, I have it on Day Bright flash and, at night, I have it on constant. If I needed more than the 12 or 2 hours respectively, I would choose a different light altogether. I can't really think of a use case, other than an emergency, for the lower power modes, and certainly don't need to use them regularly so the fact that they are more difficult to access is a plus. I would find cycling through all six modes much less convenient.
What! It's a game? Ugh, I've been cycling seriously :(
Clearly. That said, I have had the pre-migraine aura before (I don't get the actual migraine, or at least if there's something going wrong in my brain it doesn't generate any horrible symptoms). It's triggered by bright light - sunlight reflecting off something - and I definitely wouldn't drive whilst it's happening. I don't know whether an LED headlight would do it.
then Emily doesn’t really know what a migraine is I suspect she doesn't - the best guess from the information we have is that her migraines are headaches which may or may not be triggered by oncoming headlights. It's similar to people who claim they have 'flu when it's really some form of 'cold'- such false claims led to the frequent assertion by nutters during the active pandemic that Covid was 'just like 'flu', meaning nothing at all to worry about. I think we're now at the stage where 'flu is presently a greater public health hazard than Covid.
You don't get to tell the government how to spend their money, you just have an option to try to kick them out every few years if you don't like what they did.
























48 thoughts on “Must be undercover cyclists…commuter catches five drivers jumping red light; Christ on a bike; Thieves raid storage — 15 bikes stolen; No Van Aert at CX Worlds reaction; Pain cave playlist; Infra plans; Tackling cycle crime + more on the live blog”
Pretty sure when the HC says
Pretty sure when the HC says “If the traffic lights are not working” it means if they’re completely out with no lights showing, not “When they’re red but you’ve decided you’ve waited longer than you believe is reasonable.”
Yet more inconsistencies in
Yet more inconsistencies in Highway Code then – clearly the section on traffic lights conflicts with the parts on minimum speed limits and not causing others (behind you!) to have to alter their course or speed (e.g. stop). Hence the honk when one dithers.
Temporary lights may not be
Temporary lights may not be working and set at red both ends.
Working surely requires the lights to function as specified and not require external intervention to correct them.
hirsute wrote:
That’s my interpretation when lights are clearly on a sensor which can not detect cyclists.
Don’t feel like waiting around for however long it takes for a responsible driver to safely accompany me accross the junction.
It is a tricky one. The HC
It is a tricky one. The HC quote says if red is showing you must not proceed which seems absolute, but there must be a point where all road users regardless of transport mode need to make a judgement that the lights are not going to change.
If the temporary lights are a simple alternate single lane set up where you can see the other end this is not too difficult. If it is 3 or 4 way lights and/ or the other end(s) cannot be seen then the “proceed with great care” is key, but honestly did not seem to be evident in the video clip. In many ways this is easier on a bike as you are likely to have more “escape routes” if you meet something coming the other way.
hirsute wrote:
True, but there’s nothing here to indicate the lights aren’t working – a bus has just cleared them coming the other way at the start of the clip, so quite probably they were green in the other direction.
I’m pretty sure “not working”
I’m pretty sure “not working” means any situation where the lights are not functioning as they ought – i.e. allowing traffic to move from various directions in turn while traffic from one or more other directions is stopped. So e.g. if they’re just flashing all over the place, or if they’ve stuck on red / amber, or if they’re just off.
There’s a light near me that is supposed to be activated by traffic in the turning lane. Except it doesn’t recognise bicycles, so unless a car pulls up behind me then it will be on red for as long as I wait.
That is clearly “not working” – so I proceed on the basis of the Highway Code guidance – and just go when there’s a safe space in the oncoming traffic.
To be working, traffic lights
To be working, traffic lights (as in the signal) are more than a lamp being lit. they are supposed to change either on a timer basis or on a sensor basis. Sensors are supposed to pick up all relevant vehicles, even cyclists.
Older systems may not be as sensitive with some bikes, and some systems may lose their ‘tuning’, but as a valid road user, a cyclist shouldn’t be stranded within their capacity as a vehicle. If a system is not permitting traffic to proceed, they are ‘not working’ accoridng to their purpose.
Therefore if, after a reasonable time waiting at the lights, they have not changed, it is reasonable to conclude that they are not working. In proceeding accordingly, you may have a defence against failing to obey a traffic signal, but the civil onus may rest with you in the event of a resulting collision. How long that reasonable patience should be is debateable. I’ve seen some comments that say 4 minutes.
Although as we know, being
Although as we know, being held up for 30 seconds is an eternity for motorists, hence them moaning about cyclists holding people up for hours on roads. So waiting for 4 minutes (which a fourway temp lights over 50 metres) is actually reasonable time is 4 hours to a motorist so lights must be broken……
At 4:25 in this video (link
At 4:25 in this video (link should start at it), you can see 7 undercover cyclists. Video also plays on so it is seen the lights are not “stuck”. I expect the first one or two were trying to jump the Amber light being as the other directions had changed. Of course the priority then was for the Ped Crossings so light was still red. The rest of them just glanced up from their mobile phones and followed the first cars like lemmings.
Not sure what was funny about
Not sure what was funny about those clips, more like “Britain’s worst drivers caught on dashcam”
Although the gangster Ron
Although the gangster Ron Pickering chasing the car through Asda Carpark because they didn’t move 30 seconds earlier is funny though.
Trust cyclingmikey to try to
Trust cyclingmikey to try to get people fined for going through a set of broken, always red, temporary traffic lights. Reveals so much about his personality and lack of common sense.
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Early start today then.
Early start today then.
You are either a very subtle satirist or a DM journalist.
Good to see top tier road safety expert CyclingMikey dispense sage advice though
Trust our Nigel to try to get
Trust our Nigel to try to get people wound up by going through a set of broken, always wrong, baseless opinions. Reveals so much about his personality and lack of common sense.
Wrong, anyone with an ounce
Wrong, anyone with an ounce of common sense (i.e. me) can see the traffic lights aren’t working, and therefore cyclingmikey is inciting the other Twitter user to waste police time.
The lights are stuck on red. How do I know this? Because at the traffic lights, the road goes down to a single lane. If the lights were green on the other side, there would be a coming together with traffic approaching from the other side. Any human being with a functioning brain can work that out.
And for those of you not au fait with the highway code, rule 176 clearly states: “If the traffic lights are not working, treat the situation as you would an unmarked junction and proceed with great care.”
You will let us know when all
You will let us know when all the material we have helped you workshop is ready and you are touring your one man show, won’t you?
Garage at Large wrote:
You don’t know this. You are guessing without any proof. The OP in their twitter feed advised that the lights were slow and that it was 4 way traffic control.
So the fact that the lights on the other side (1/4 of the lights) were at red doesn’t mean the lights are broken. I mean it is entirely possible that the lights were on a timed sequence and that one of the other sets of lights were at green but no cars were coming out.
So would you like to admit you don’t actually know that the lights were broken?
TriTaxMan wrote:
You don’t know this. You are guessing without any proof. The OP in their twitter feed advised that the lights were slow and that it was 4 way traffic control.
So the fact that the lights on the other side (1/4 of the lights) were at red doesn’t mean the lights are broken. I mean it is entirely possible that the lights were on a timed sequence and that one of the other sets of lights were at green but no cars were coming out.
So would you like to admit you don’t actually know that the lights were broken?— Garage at Large
I’m not guessing at all. On Twitter, the OP confirmed he bailed by riding the wrong way down the adjacent one-way cycleway after getting stuck at the temporary traffic lights.
Or are you saying he deliberately broke the law by ignoring perfectly functioning traffic lights to ride inconsiderately and dangerously?
Garage at Large wrote:
I’m not guessing at all. On Twitter, the OP confirmed he bailed by riding the wrong way down the adjacent one-way cycleway after getting stuck at the temporary traffic lights.
Or are you saying he deliberately broke the law by ignoring perfectly functioning traffic lights to ride inconsiderately and dangerously?— Garage at Large
I made no judgement as to whether or not the cyclist ignored perfectly functioning lights….. because I don’t know if the lights were functioning. I simply do not have enough evidence either way to make a judgement which is why I was very careful in what I said.
I simply challenged your factually incorrect opinion that you knew the lights were broken. Which you have not, nor will you be able to prove from the available evidence
Garage at Large wrote:
Or the traffic at the other end is unable to proceed on their green light into the single lane as there is a constant stream of red light jumpers in the signle lane still coming towards them.
Or no traffic appears to be moving as this is 4 way control and there happens to be no traffic needing the green phase at one of the side roads as we are watching. 4 way control is usually pre programmed and doesn’t operate on detection.
Any human being with a functioning brain can add that to the list of possibilities before arriving at a certainty.
Errrm. It wasnt even
Errrm. It wasnt even CyclingMikey who posted it! Must try harder Mr Troll.
the cycling mikey thing is a
the cycling mikey thing is a road.cc comment
Yes, Mikey rightly replied to
Yes, Mikey rightly replied to the OP of the video to report apparent flagrant abuse to see if the Police wanted to take action.
But unfortunately Boo has got exactly what he wanted again and now has 7 people responding to his deliberately provoking comments. People just need to ignore him from now on.
Agree. Can we just have one
Agree. Can we just have one “do not feed” reply each time (whoever gets there first can handle it) to the blatant baiting / attention seeking?
I’ve tried attempting to engage with love and support, but sadly he won’t play – it’s clearly a one way game you see.
I’ve been binging What We Do
I’ve been binging What We Do In The Shadows over the holidays, and there;’s an episode where Colin Robinson has a load of laptops open on his bed and he’s winding people up on internet forums to drain their energy “because it is just so easy!”.
Oh no. Nige is an energy
Oh no. Nige is an energy vampire. How did we not see that?!
Side benefit though, I can visualise him as a massive head on a baby’s torso now.
My bad, sorry. I have just
My bad, sorry. I have just found it more interesting that what passes for “work” this morning
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I prefer yplac
I prefer yplac
I’m just waiting for some
I’m just waiting for some racist obnoxious turd of a troll to blame RLJ on Mikey.
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Nah, no one would assume the
Nah, no one would assume the lights are permanently stuck at all with no evidence and do that. Sounds attention grabbing to me and probably best ignored still.
Maybe someone who, by their
Maybe someone who, by their own admission, only has an ounce of common sense would. Fortunately, most people have a lot more than that.
Nah, even an ounce of common
Nah, even an ounce of common sense wouldn’t make the assumption they were broken based on 10 seconds and no obvious traffic coming the other way. After all if they were broken, then they would be broken at both ends and traffic would both just be trying to rush through as per pictures from that end.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
Indeed. I mean the gov.uk traffic light guidance shows that for portable traffic lights at roadworks with a length of between 50m and 100m requires all traffic signals to be red for a minimum of 10 seconds. Given the length of time it took the taxi to traverse the full length of the road works (at least 8 or 9 seconds) I am confident that the length of the road works in question is at least 50m.
And that is the minimum all red time. Given the location it is quite likely that the speed limit on that stretch of the road 30mph, if not 20mph. So there is a good chance that the all red phase will be longer than the 10 second minimum to allow slower road users (such as cyclists) to pass safely through the full length of the road works.
TriTaxMan wrote:
Isn’t this the second coming
Isn’t this the second coming of Christ on a bike on the live blog?
I believe temporary traffic
I believe temporary traffic lights are not enforceable like permanent ones, however, any incident puts the driver in powerful of a driving without due care or even dangerous driving rather than a red light offence.
Are you sure? I thought the
Are you sure? I thought the law changed several years ago although I think it depends on a road order being filled in. Which I would be surpised if this one didn’t have due to the length of time it would need to be setup whilst doing the building work.
Temporary traffic signals are
Temporary traffic signals are always licensed by the Highway Authority and are enforceable by the police. Any nighttime or weekend emergency works by statutory authorities are retrospectively licensed the next working day and those works recorded in accordance with the New Roads and Streetworks Act. As you correctly point out many others offences could also be considered.
What is the purpose of a
What is the purpose of a waterproof gilet? What I mean is, won’t your arms still get cold and wet??
Yeah, but by ensuring that
Yeah, but by ensuring that you body is wrapped in plastic it prevents sweat from escaping so your torso is also cold and wet. Oh hang on…
Re. Playlist – mostly the
Re. Playlist – mostly the Reith Lectures back catalogue at the moment.
Just me then?
mdavidford wrote:
Nope – that plus the archive of In Our Time fuelled my pre-Christmas 1026 km in 10 days extravganza. I particularly enjoyed the Daniel Barenboim ones.
CX seems to be a strange
CX seems to be a strange beast, the top two are just so much better than the rest that the race for 1st rapidly becomes a bit dull and all the excitement is happening behind (Tom Pidcock vs. Eli Iserbyt in particular).
I would have liked to have seen a fully fit MvdP vs. WvA on his current form though, in past years it had been fairly one sided (I think the world champs was beginning to look interesting until WvA punctured if I recall…).
Re: playlists, I’ve been mining a rich seam of 90s and early 00s techno, in particular a Japanese artist called Takkyu Ishino. Just the right blend of metronomic, bashy and euphoric in places. The training zones don’t stand a chance sometimes when the right tune comes on, FULL GAS!!!
As Tilgate park is less than
As Tilgate park is less than a km from my house, I’m always over there, with my dog.
He runs free, once we’re away from the roads, and comes back when I whistle. Generally, he causes fewer issues than when he’s on the lead, as he doesn’t get tangled round other people and/or their dogs.
As usual, a small amount of problematic people/dogs leads (see what I did, there?) to calls for extreme measures for all.
Now, I need to decide whether I should stick to walks, or partake of bike rides with him.
Bloody car drivers jumping
Bloody car drivers jumping red lights. They don’t even pay road tax, you know.
Geoff Ingram wrote:
They should get their toys off the road and leave it for the grown-ups to use