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Van der Poel Scheldeprijs
Van der Poel Scheldeprijs (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Good luck for Roubaix? Mathieu van der Poel wipes bird poo from helmet mid-race (+ Cav third); Trump supporter falls off bicycle, faceplants… goes viral; Scrap the congestion zone… archers can’t take longbows by bus + more on the live blog

Dan Alexander is on live blog duty for you this Wednesday, raring to go with all the usual silliness and maybe some proper news too
  • by Dan Alexander
Wed, Apr 05, 2023 08:14
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SUMMARY

  • Won't somebody please think of the children who can't take longbows on the bus — latest bizarre congestion charge campaigning
  • Cambridge congestion zone — what's it all about?
  • The one we've all been waiting for... Drum & Bass on the Bike — Bristol
  • Republican senator Mitt Romney claims "removing automobile lanes to put in bike lanes is, in my opinion, the height of stupidity"
  • 👀 Roubaix tech
  • Mountain bikers urged to check for ticks after deadly virus found in UK
  • Who else? SD Worx and Lorena Wiebes sprint to Scheldeprijs victoy
  • The best kit we've reviewed recently
  • "I don't know anybody who is not zig-zagging around or sometimes bouncing across the potholes and that is not a political point. We all do it": Northamptonshire councillors say cyclists are taking their lives in the hands riding on pothole-strewn roads
  • Trump supporter falls off bicycle, faceplants... goes viral
  • Wackiest 3D-printed cycling tech | Is this the future of cycling?
  • Good luck for Roubaix? Mathieu van der Poel wipes bird poo from helmet mid-race (+ Cav third)
Van der Poel Scheldeprijs
Van der Poel Scheldeprijs (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
5 April 2023, 08:14

Won't somebody please think of the children who can't take longbows on the bus — latest bizarre congestion charge campaigning

Some live blog gold for you to kick off today… cheers to the reader who dropped this into our inbox after spotting a Cambridge resident making the case for their child needing to be driven around town… because “have you ever tried to carry a longbow on a bus?” 

Longbow archer (Hans Splinter/Flickr/ CC BY-ND 2.0)
CC BY-ND 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Longbow archer (Hans Splinter/Flickr/ CC BY-ND 2.0)
CC BY-ND 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A question I’m sure we’ve all been asked at some point or other…

Putting the facetiousness to the side for a second, the mother created a challenge for anyone to take two children to school on transport advocated by the Greater Cambridge Partnership (a body including three local councils, businesses and the University of Cambridge that has proposed the zone), pick up groceries, get to work, pick up the kids, take one to swimming and the other to archery, feed them both and get home. Could you do all that without driving? 

One reply, from Nick Flynn reckons so… “There are probably plenty of people in Cambridge who have two children who need to go to different places, then work elsewhere, and manage to buy groceries, all without a car. I’m one of them.”

So… how did that go down? “If you read the challenge, you would note the older child has archery. Have you ever tried to carry a longbow on a bus? Will the school allow the teenager to bring a weapon to school? An archer can string, knock and loose an arrow in minutes. #getreal” 

“Right kids, get in the Volvo” pic.twitter.com/E7JxcoyWKl

— Alan Gore (@amcgore) April 3, 2023

5 April 2023, 08:14

Cambridge congestion zone — what's it all about?

The proposed scheme, expected to be implemented by 2028, would see drivers who enter the zone between 07:00 and 19:00 on weekdays have to pay a daily charge of at least £5. Funds raised will go towards an improved bus network expansion, expected to cost £50 million, and improving infrastructure for cycling and walking.

The Greater Cambridge Partnership says it wants to see 20,000 extra journeys taken by bus, a 50 per cent reduction in car trips, a five per cent reduction in carbon emissions and 10,000 extra park and ride spaces.

Daniel Zeichner, Labour MP for Cambridge, told a BBC debate in February, he wants a “transformed transport system for this city”.

“People are spending 65 hours a year stuck in traffic jams in Cambridge. What a waste of time and damage to the environment, damage to people trying to get to work and small businesses,” he said.

“We have a chance to have a transport system fit for this city. We all know that for so long this city has struggled with transport. We need a new bus system that is cheap, reliable and that people can believe in. I think it is worth having a try.”

5 April 2023, 08:14

The one we've all been waiting for... Drum & Bass on the Bike — Bristol

> Cyclists take over Bristol for “mind-blowing” Drum & Bass on the Bike ride

5 April 2023, 08:14

Republican senator Mitt Romney claims "removing automobile lanes to put in bike lanes is, in my opinion, the height of stupidity"

Mitt Romney (Gage Skidmore/Flickr/CC BY-SA 2.0)
CC BY-SA 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mitt Romney (Gage Skidmore/Flickr/CC BY-SA 2.0)
CC BY-SA 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

More politics from across the pond…

After the reintroduction of a tax credit of up to $1,500 for those purchasing a new electric bike, US senator Mitt Romney told Business Insider “removing automobile lanes to put in bike lanes is, in my opinion, the height of stupidity, it means more cars backing up, creating more emissions”.

“I’m not going to spend money on buying e-bikes for people like me who have bought them — they’re expensive,” he said. “I don’t want to add to the unfairness of the current system where electric cars are free riders and don’t pay to help maintain our roads and bridges through a gas tax or any kind of surcharge. We’re over-subsidising electric vehicles as it is now.”

Bureau of Transportation Statistics suggest that 52 per cent of US journeys are shorter than three miles, with nearly 60 per cent less than six miles away from drivers’ homes. The group estimates that if 15 per cent of these driven journeys were made by e-bike, carbon emissions could drop by 12 per cent.

5 April 2023, 08:14

👀 Roubaix tech

Scope Atmoz 2023
Scope Atmoz 2023 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Scope Atmoz 2023
Scope Atmoz 2023 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Team DSM set to use on-the-fly tyre pressure adjustment at Paris-Roubaix

5 April 2023, 08:14

Mountain bikers urged to check for ticks after deadly virus found in UK

Mountain bikers and hikers have been asked to check themselves for ticks after returning from outdoor activity as health officials confirmed a potentially deadly virus is present in the UK.

A 50-year-old man from Yorkshire, who was mountain biking when he was bitten, is the first domestically acquired case of tick-borne encephalitis virus (TBEV). It has also been detected in Hampshire, Dorset and Norfolk.

Common in many parts of the world, TBEV causes a range of disease, some are completely asymptomatic while others might experience mild flu-like illness to severe infection in the central nervous system, such as meningitis or encephalitis.

“Although the risk to the general public is very low, it is important for people to take precautions to protect themselves from tick bites, such as covering their ankles and legs, applying insect repellent and checking clothes and your body for ticks, particularly when visiting areas with long grass such as woods, moorlands and parks,” Dr Heln Callaby of the UK Health Security Agency said.

5 April 2023, 08:14

Who else? SD Worx and Lorena Wiebes sprint to Scheldeprijs victoy

It’s a sprinty day at Scheldeprijs. Barely any wind and lovely spring sunshine making it almost certainly two races for the sprinters, a prediction that came true in the women’s race this lunchtime as Lorena Wiebes continued SD Worx’s all-conquering classics campaign…

That’s three in a row for Lorena Wiebes in #SPwomen! 👑 #SP23 pic.twitter.com/JROeZvVIKU

— Scheldeprijs (@Scheldeprijs) April 5, 2023

A hat-trick at the race for Wiebes and yet another victory for her team. Just the Tour of Flanders, Dwars door Vlaanderen, Gent-Wevelgem, Nokere Koerse, Ronde van Drenthe, Strade Bianche and Omloop Het Nieuwsblad for them this spring, is a first Paris-Roubaix and a near perfect set next? 

5 April 2023, 08:14

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5 April 2023, 08:14

"I don't know anybody who is not zig-zagging around or sometimes bouncing across the potholes and that is not a political point. We all do it": Northamptonshire councillors say cyclists are taking their lives in the hands riding on pothole-strewn roads

Pothole in Didcot, Oxfordshire (credit - Tim Masters)
Pothole in Didcot, Oxfordshire (credit - Tim Masters) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Pothole in Didcot, Oxfordshire (credit - Tim Masters)
Pothole in Didcot, Oxfordshire (credit – Tim Masters) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Northamptonshire councillors have spoken out about the state of the roads in the county, arguing the government’s grant is not even half of what would be needed to keep the roads well maintained, Northants Live reports.

At a meeting of North Northamptonshire Council, Cllr Martyn Reuby said it is one of his “greatest fears” he will be knocked from his bike by hitting on of the area’s many road defects.

“It is one of my greatest fears that I hit a pothole, lose control of my bike and end up under the wheels of a vehicle. I literally would stand no chance and the likelihood of this seems more possible with the terrible state of the roads,” he said.

Another councillor, Graham Lawman, said their budget was “limited” and “not enough to catch up, let alone improve the position”, the £3.8 million government grant well short of the £8.1 million estimated needed to keep the roads in a “steady state”.

5 April 2023, 08:14

Trump supporter falls off bicycle, faceplants... goes viral

Here’s the best bit of Trump’s big day in court… (from the perspective of a cycling website, at least)…

Easy rider. pic.twitter.com/KKsWXRhNcm

— Grant Stern (@grantstern) April 5, 2023

The extended cut shows the offending item was a skateboard rolled into the path, prompting a chase on foot…

🫡 pic.twitter.com/8GX1KSse26

— tCb 🗣🛹🛹🛹💸💸💸 (@thomas__barker) April 5, 2023

One amused viewer wondered if it was the deep skate’s doing… 

The outfit, admittedly not seen in our how to dress for spring cycling guide, was made famous by the Capitol rioter Jacob Chansley, who was by chance this week released from prison to a federal halfway house in Arizona. This road-rashed imitator was not Chansley, however, just a fan (apparently)…

No word if the headwear had Mips… not sure any of our reviewers are particularly up for finding out either…

Anyway, get stuck into as much cycling-related Trump content as you want…

> Toe strap-gate: Trump mocks Biden bike fall with spoof golf video

> Cyclist sacked after giving Trump the finger now building bike lanes after winning election

> “Racism is unacceptable” – Trek-Segafredo reacts to rider’s pro-Trump tweet

> “Donald Trump” claims Box Hill KOM on Strava

5 April 2023, 08:14

Wackiest 3D-printed cycling tech | Is this the future of cycling?

5 April 2023, 08:14

Good luck for Roubaix? Mathieu van der Poel wipes bird poo from helmet mid-race (+ Cav third)

It’s a shit and run…

That looks shitty! 🐦 #SP23 #SPmen pic.twitter.com/E5bNEI5rrs

— Scheldeprijs (@Scheldeprijs) April 5, 2023

Maybe we need to start taking helmets’ poo-preventing powers into account in our reviews… ‘great ventilation for those hot summer days, although not going to stop anti-social avian excrement… three stars’…

The good luck theory rumbles on, Van der Poel recovering from his trip to the convoy for wet wipes to lead out teammate Jasper Philipsen to victory. I’m sure a win at Roubaix on Sunday and the seagulls of northern France can do whatever they like, as far as Mathieu’s concerned.

 On the racing front, Philipsen won and Mark Cavendish achieved his joint best result yet in the blue of Astana, sprinting to third at Scheldeprijs. Sorry, yes, the race was Scheldeprijs, I was too excited by the bird crap thing to remember to mention that important detail…

Anyway, without wanting to sound too much like a certain Alan Partridge, anyone else suffered the flyby splatter mid-ride?

5 April 2023, 08:14

“A flagrant act of vandalism”: Council agrees to move “ugly” bike rack after churchgoers say it will “block access for hearses”

“A flagrant act of vandalism”: Council agrees to move “ugly” bike rack after churchgoers say it will “block access for hearses”

“It seems the deluded secularists of the city council are determined to close the church,” said one local councillor opposed to the scheme

5 April 2023, 08:14

Suspended sentence “a real farce”, says family of cyclist killed by motorist – as Cycling UK blasts UK’s “broken road traffic laws”

Suspended sentence “a real farce”, says family of cyclist killed by motorist – as Cycling UK blasts UK’s “broken road traffic laws”

“Driving a car is like having a knife in your hand, it’s a dangerous weapon and if you kill somebody you should get made to pay for it. He just hasn’t, he's walked away free”

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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70 thoughts on “Good luck for Roubaix? Mathieu van der Poel wipes bird poo from helmet mid-race (+ Cav third); Trump supporter falls off bicycle, faceplants… goes viral; Scrap the congestion zone… archers can’t take longbows by bus + more on the live blog”

  1. Rendel Harris
    April 5, 2023 at 8:46 am
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    Chapeau, “Have you ever

    Chapeau, “Have you ever carried a longbow on a bus*” is right up there with “taking my daughter to the best cello teacher in Kent” as a “won’t someone think of the children” excuse for car driving!

    *I never have but glancing at Google a longbow in a case isn’t much longer or more unwieldy than a one-piece snooker cue or a bass guitar in a case, both of which I’ve carried on buses numerous times without difficulty.

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    • chrisonabike
      April 5, 2023 at 8:51 am
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      I’m sure they’re doing it

      I’m sure they’re doing it properly though.  I mean, children, so no doubt they’d be issued with a 1.8m size longbow.  Which they could no doubt whip out in seconds and cause havoc on a bus – why every bus driver is taught to look out for them and not let you on with one.  “Medieval machinegun”, see…

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    • Samtheeagle
      April 5, 2023 at 9:00 am
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      Used to carry a Cello on the

      Used to carry a Cello on the school bus for 3 years when at senior school.  Was always pants at playing but still had to get to and from school with the thing.  Dad had a Cortina but the cello didnt fit.

       

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      • Rendel Harris
        April 5, 2023 at 9:27 am
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        I used to know a feller who

        I used to know a feller who did the same with his double bass; it was a bit tricky at rush hour but generally fine, he used to say the biggest pain was having to put up with all the heard a thousand times “bet you wish you’d taken up the flute” jokes.

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        • Surreyrider
          April 5, 2023 at 1:03 pm
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          Fluting hell – they’re crap

          Fluting hell – they’re crap jokes!

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    • ktache
      April 5, 2023 at 7:38 pm
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      Used to ride about with a

      Used to ride about with a bass guitar in a big rucksack.

      Would bump the back of my head, so helmet use would be difficult (late 80s) and head room was limited, had to remember to remove the rucksack to get through doorways.

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      • Rendel Harris
        April 6, 2023 at 9:30 am
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        ktache wrote:

        Used to ride about with a bass guitar in a big rucksack.

        Would bump the back of my head, so helmet use would be difficult (late 80s) and head room was limited, had to remember to remove the rucksack to get through doorways.

        — ktache

        Never had the courage to take guitars on a bike, too paranoid about breaking them in a tumble! Of course there’s always…

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  2. hawkinspeter
    April 5, 2023 at 8:50 am
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    Danger Zone!

    Danger Zone!

    https://img.izismile.com/img/img11/20180122/640/archer_jokes_are_something_you_wouldnt_expect_640_high_01.jpg

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  3. chrisonabike
    April 5, 2023 at 8:55 am
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    I’m sure road.cc will be

    I’m sure road.cc will be running a note but the previously reported “HGV driver runs over cyclist” story has percolated up to the BBC.  Hard to call this a “good thing” but it may be surprising they’re now running this sort of story.  I don’t recall they used to consider these newsworthy?

    An apt quote from the father though:

    “Driving a car is like having a knife in your hand, it’s a dangerous weapon and if you kill somebody you should get made to pay for it. He just hasn’t, he’s walked away free.”

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  4. OnYerBike
    April 5, 2023 at 9:07 am
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    Slightly pedantic point, but

    Slightly pedantic point, but my understanding is that the Cambridge charge (as currently proposed) would not just apply to drivers who “enter” the zone, but anyone who drives within it.

    My two cents on the proposal: I’m generally in favour of the ambition, but it’s a bit of a chicken and egg situation. The public transport in Cambridge (and the wider Cambridgeshire) is pretty dire at the moment, and I think it would be fairer to upgrade the public transport first to provide a viable alternative – but they are relying on revenue from the charge to upgrade the transport system so the charge is being brought in first!

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    • chrisonabike
      April 5, 2023 at 10:20 am
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      Also presumably the

      Also presumably the “excellent public transport” would be impeded by all the cars if they did improved that first?  If indeed all those complaining are driving as much as they say they “have to”.

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      • OnYerBike
        April 5, 2023 at 10:55 am
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        To some extent yes, but there

        To some extent yes, but there would be ways to improve the public transport anyway. For example I had a friend who lived in one of the villages relatively close to Cambridge and the last bus back to that village left at something like 6:30pm. So fine if you’re heading straight home after a “normal” 9-5 but useless if you worked different hours or wanted to do anything in the evening before heading home.

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        • chrisonabike
          April 5, 2023 at 11:12 am
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          It would probably be possible

          It would probably be possible to get a few more people onto buses by extending the coverage.  However the private car is a 24/7, no-wait, door-to-door service we’ve grown to expect as standard.  There will be a point of diminishing returns with trying to get people using buses which we may be close to – especially while there is still a car option.  Certainly reliability and resiliance is a concern.  Even though the bus may be more reliable when summed over all the people using it versus using their cars.  However that’s not the sum we care about – we just notice when we were delayed.

          It’s not a zero-sum game but while it’s still possible to drive those journeys many will indeed still be driven.  Extending coverage will likely need lots of subsidisy.  (Again overlooking the fact that we’re all subsidising motoring since motorists don’t pay the full cost of the negative consequences of that activity).

          Assuming there is a bus route you can use – having discounted the costs of just owning a car (as people do) the journey cost may well be less!

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          • chrisonabike
            April 5, 2023 at 11:28 am
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            What’s the way round that

            What’s the way round that puzzler then?

            Well – if you can fix it for people to cycle safely and efficiently that’s a low-cost, higher-density-than-cars, 24/7 (if the routes feel safe…), no-wait, door-to-door private travel mode right there.  But what about people “too far away”?  eBikes certainly add something to this argument but for those who don’t want to cycle an hour each way?  That’s where the ability of public transport to combine with walking and cycling particularly is key.

            Here’s former Cambridge resident David Hembrow on connecting bus stations and train stations with cycling and making this an attractive option [1] [2].

  5. Bigfoz
    April 5, 2023 at 9:34 am
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    Surely a longbow unstrung is

    Surely a longbow unstrung is just a stick. Like a walking stick or pool cue or shepherds crook. Why would that be problematic on a bus?

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    • Creakingcrank
      April 5, 2023 at 9:53 am
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      Back in the day, Johnny Ball

      Back in the day, Johnny Ball on Think of a Number  (I think) did a piece about not being allowed to carry a 6ft snooker cue on a bus due to a maximum luggage length limit. Solved by placing the cue diagonally inside a 4ft by 5ft case. Same approach for the longbow would leave room for the arrows, suit of lincoln green etc.

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    • brooksby
      April 5, 2023 at 10:14 am
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      I’d thought that modern

      I’d thought that modern archery uses a compound bow which is broken down into a carrying case anyway…  I doubt that there are many people doing archery with a full-on longbow.

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      • Hirsute
        April 5, 2023 at 10:39 am
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        The challenge was also about
        The challenge was also about 2 primary school children – they are renowned for their ability to pull a long bow bigger than them !
        Also already covered in drivers and their problems – do keep up road.cc !

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        • ktache
          April 5, 2023 at 7:33 pm
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          Have you recently changed

          Have you recently changed your username back?

          Been wondering which of the regulars had the amusing change…

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          • Hirsute
            April 6, 2023 at 8:50 am
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            Yes – I did toy with some
            Yes – I did toy with some other ideas but decided to revert.
            Looks like the long term troll is gone.

          • ktache
            April 6, 2023 at 8:54 am
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            Something worked.

            Something worked.

            More pleasant.

          • chrisonabike
            April 6, 2023 at 9:10 am
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            Have been enjoying that; a

            Have been enjoying that; a large amount of pointless (to me – the odd classic put-down aside) sniping and knockabout has gone.  Of course self-regulation would help but we know how that goes in other spheres (e.g. the roads!)

      • AidanR
        April 5, 2023 at 11:59 am
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        Compound or recurve bow,
        Compound or recurve bow, usually, but it could be a longbow if they’re into re-enactments. But probably not a full sized longbow for a kid unless they’re abnormally strong!

        I can’t see why a longbow would fit in a car but not on a bus.

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        • chrisonabike
          April 5, 2023 at 12:08 pm
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          Roofrack – or increasingly

          Roofrack – or increasingly “pickup” because we all need that carrying capability?

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    • wycombewheeler
      April 5, 2023 at 2:08 pm
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      Bigfoz wrote:

      Surely a longbow unstrung is just a stick. Like a walking stick or pool cue or shepherds crook. Why would that be problematic on a bus?

      — Bigfoz

      because “it could be strung and loosed in minutes”, and how can people not be concerned by the possibility of (not very) sudden violence.

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      • Backladder
        April 5, 2023 at 3:27 pm
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        wycombewheeler wrote:

        Surely a longbow unstrung is just a stick. Like a walking stick or pool cue or shepherds crook. Why would that be problematic on a bus?

        — wycombewheeler

        because “it could be strung and loosed in minutes”, and how can people not be concerned by the possibility of (not very) sudden violence.

        — Bigfoz

        Probably a bit longer than that, it took 10 years for the bow of Odysseus to be strung.

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      • quiff
        April 5, 2023 at 5:10 pm
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        wycombewheeler wrote:

        how can people not be concerned by the possibility of (not very) sudden violence.

        — wycombewheeler

        For some reason this conjured up the Austin Powers steamroller scene in my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_PrZ-J7D3k

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  6. IanMSpencer
    April 5, 2023 at 9:35 am
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    Recently had news that this

    Recently had news that this driver attended their driver awareness course. Deserved or too harsh?

    The screams are real!

    https://twitter.com/IanMSpencer/status/1643544126820941826?s=20

    Bingo cards at the ready on Twitter!

    I didn’t put it forward for NMotD as it wasn’t!

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    • Hirsute
      April 5, 2023 at 10:00 am
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      Should have been 6 points at
      Should have been 6 points at least and a short ban.

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      • mctrials23
        April 5, 2023 at 7:32 pm
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        I think that the government

        I think that the government should ban people for short periods much more often. Perhaps if you weren’t allowed to drive for a month when you do something like this you would take it a little more seriously. If you are caught driving when banned its upped to a year. 

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        • andystow
          April 5, 2023 at 7:41 pm
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          mctrials23 wrote:

          I think that the government should ban people for short periods much more often. Perhaps if you weren’t allowed to drive for a month when you do something like this you would take it a little more seriously. If you are caught driving when banned its upped to a year. 

          — mctrials23

          If you’re caught driving, you’ve demonstrated that you’ll ignore the ban. Income/wealth based fine, and confiscate the car for two months. Yes, even if another driver in the household “needs” it.

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    • brooksby
      April 5, 2023 at 10:13 am
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      Were they speeding and got

      Were they speeding and got the bend badly wrong, or were they aiming for that junction and didn’t anticipate any other traffic?

      Were the bikes all OK?

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      • IanMSpencer
        April 5, 2023 at 10:26 am
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        They weren’t actually going
        They weren’t actually going that fast – consider that they stopped within a couple of car lengths – but in the instant I thought it was a boy racer over-cooking corner.. In discussion she claimed the bend wasn’t signed (double whites, big sharp bend with 20mph max sign – not the first sharp bend on a winding road https://maps.app.goo.gl/2Av1vdogs3RMzmdL8) – further evidence of without due care. She had Google Maps running on her phone, no mount, dropped in her lap, so I think it was phone use – which was technically caught in that video.

        The “hit” was more target fixation by the guy on the outside who knocked over the other guy onto the bonnet. No damage – but note the state of the car which had obviously bumped a few things.

        We were all quite shocked, and I’ve stopped riding as much on road and doing more off-road. Amazed we didn’t swear!

        I think they simply weren’t thinking about what they were doing. I did wonder whether they were intending to go straight on, but I don’t think the track backs that up, and the Google Map display on her screen I saw was heading round the bend.

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        • IanMK
          April 5, 2023 at 10:52 am
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          I’ve submitted footage to TVP

          I’ve submitted footage to TVP that has resulted in a course for a lot less than that. I did wonder about the pre-existing damage to the car which, if I was the police, would cause me to look a lot more suspiciously at the incident.

          In the link to the BBC story below (provided by Chris) the Cycling UK spokesperson says “The Westminster government promised to review these failing laws in 2014 but we’re still waiting, and the price of delay is sadly paid again and again by families like that of David Jones.” Whilst I don’t disagree with a long overdue review, prison sentences for dangerous driving won’t in itself saves lives. We need to use the points totting up system in the way that it was intended and get persistent bad drivers off the roads before they kill someone. If this was a  genuine one off mistake then it won’t stop the driver using their car. What we need is more action to enforce the already existing laws.

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          • IanMSpencer
            April 5, 2023 at 11:02 am
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            My vindictive reaction was

            My vindictive reaction was that it was prima face dangerous driving and if it weren’t for the fact that we were being a bit scruffy as a group after getting split up at a junction and a fast descent and were actually regrouping at the time it could have been a massive pileup.

            The other side of it was the driver, after being on the receiving end of some stern but polite remonstration was pretty much in tears, sjhe had frightened herself and the incident will live with her forever. I think the lesson was well and truly learned – still would have liked some points on her licence though.

          • wycombewheeler
            April 5, 2023 at 2:01 pm
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            IanMK wrote:

            .prison sentences for dangerous driving won’t in itself saves lives. 

            — IanMK

            so true. It’s not like a handful of drivers are going around maiming and killing people, very many drivers are routinely driving dangerously until they don’t get away with it.

            It’s the routine near misses that need cracking down on. But many forces ignore the video evidence and/because courts are not convicting when it is presented.

        • wycombewheeler
          April 5, 2023 at 2:06 pm
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          IanMSpencer wrote:

          . In discussion she claimed the bend wasn’t signed (double whites, big sharp bend with 20mph max sign – not the first sharp bend on a winding road https://maps.app.goo.gl/2Av1vdogs3RMzmdL8) –

          — IanMSpencer

          there is a white line down the middle of the road, it’s not like someone IWil E Coyote) painted a drawing of a road on a wall in front of the bend. It’s there to be seen during daylight, signs or not.

          and reviewing the video you can clearly see the warnign sign at 35s, so if she said to me the bend wasn’t signed I would ask her what she thought that sign was. Obviously eyes not on the road.

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          • wtjs
            April 5, 2023 at 2:16 pm
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            there is a white line down

            there is a white line down the middle of the road… It’s there to be seen during daylight, signs or not

            So writes someone who presumably doesn’t live in an area like Lancashire, where dangerous and illegal crossing of single and double unbroken white lines has been entirely legitimised by the comedy police, who ignored all these- I have included a sample from my large collection so people can omit the ones they’ve seen before

            https://upride.cc/incident/p40htn_audi_closepassdwlcross/

            https://upride.cc/incident/ku15ekc_royalmailbigvan_dwlcrossclosepass/

            https://upride.cc/incident/a19lcw_mercedesmmt_closepassuwl/

            https://upride.cc/incident/md68fwc_apcovernight_whitelinecross/

            https://upride.cc/incident/yl12ffp_cmax_closepassdwlcross/

            https://upride.cc/incident/yf70xwu_aadrivingschool_uwlcross/

             

      • quiff
        April 5, 2023 at 4:26 pm
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        Holy s*** that’s a scary one.

        Holy s*** that’s a scary one. My guess – Google maps said “continue straight on the B4092” and she realised at the last minute that actually meant follow the road to the left.

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        • IanMSpencer
          April 5, 2023 at 4:29 pm
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          My other theory is she was

          My other theory is she was pissing herself laughing at Dogbut Lane – after all, I still snigger after 15 years of riding past it. 

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          • mark1a
            April 5, 2023 at 4:56 pm
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            IanMSpencer wrote:

            My other theory is she was pissing herself laughing at Dogbut Lane – after all, I still snigger after 15 years of riding past it. 

            — IanMSpencer

            There are many funny place names around my area, but this one on one of my bike routes is my favourite. The reason for the 1.5t stone is because people kept stealing the regular name sign.

             

    • HoarseMann
      April 5, 2023 at 11:00 am
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      I don’t think a course is

      I don’t think a course is harsh enough, but at least it is something.

      I had a similar incident back in the mid-90’s: A teenage chav in an Astra comes hooning around the bend, wheels locked up, tyres smoking and screeching, sliding towards me. You really are a sitting duck on a bike in that situation. Thankfully they just missed me and smashed head-on into the car that was behind me. Both cars write-offs, luckily no injuries. Shook me up for a while.

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      • Surreyrider
        April 5, 2023 at 12:56 pm
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        Agree. Proper consequences

        Agree. Proper consequences are required for law breaking drivers who could potentially kill – this incident could have been a whole lot worse. Tears are not enough (as an 80s song title goes).

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  7. JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
    April 5, 2023 at 10:11 am
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    The trump supporter video is
    The trump supporter video is class.

    It looks to me like:
    -Too busy dicking about on a bike to look for hazards
    -Came a cropper due to personal choices
    -Appreciate this is circumstantial but looks like rage and going after the person who had the skateboard because obviously all their fault rather than personal responsibility
    -Whilst leaving their bike to be a hazard for others.

    Textbook MAGA really.

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    • yourealwaysbe
      April 5, 2023 at 10:25 am
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      It looks to me like the

      It looks to me like the skateboarder pushed the board under the bike.

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      • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
        April 5, 2023 at 11:14 am
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        yourealwaysbe wrote:

        It looks to me like the skateboarder pushed the board under the bike.

        — yourealwaysbe

        I didn’t see it but could be. Not that it would make any difference to someone dickng about… and still dumbass to have your own equipment creating exactly the same hazard

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        • wycombewheeler
          April 5, 2023 at 1:55 pm
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          are we now calling riding

          are we now calling riding with one hand in a reasonably straight line on an empty (closed?) road “dicking about”?

          Now whether the skateboarder lost balance or wheteher it was a deliberate assault is unclear, but the skateboard definitely appears suddenly under the bikes wheels.

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      • cyclisto
        April 5, 2023 at 12:21 pm
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        To me it seems like a direct

        To me it seems like a direct assault, worthy to be prosecuted in court, this is not funny for me at all.

        Trump supporters have many reasons to be ridiculed and to offer us laughter, but violence is in any case unacceptable.

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    • AidanR
      April 5, 2023 at 11:52 am
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      JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote

      The trump supporter video is class.

      It looks to me like:
      -Too busy dicking about on a bike to look for hazards
      -Came a cropper due to personal choices
      -Appreciate this is circumstantial but looks like rage and going after the person who had the skateboard because obviously all their fault rather than personal responsibility
      -Whilst leaving their bike to be a hazard for others.

      Textbook MAGA really.

      — JustTryingToGetFromAtoB

      Someone riding a bike crashed because someone else deliberately pushed an object into their path. Are we so blinded by partisanship that people are celebrating an assault on a cyclist?

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      • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
        April 5, 2023 at 11:58 am
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        AidanR wrote:

        The trump supporter video is class.

        It looks to me like:
        -Too busy dicking about on a bike to look for hazards
        -Came a cropper due to personal choices
        -Appreciate this is circumstantial but looks like rage and going after the person who had the skateboard because obviously all their fault rather than personal responsibility
        -Whilst leaving their bike to be a hazard for others.

        Textbook MAGA really.

        — AidanR

        Someone riding a bike crashed because someone else deliberately pushed an object into their path. Are we so blinded by partisanship that people are celebrating an assault on a cyclist?— JustTryingToGetFromAtoB

        I’ve missed the bit where it was pushed. Which would be a bad thing obvs.

        But I can still call him a dick for dicking about, and leaving obstacles for others.

        Also, and I don’t know about anyone else on here, but I’ve come off my bike a few times. When I have contributed to that (and I have, because I have dicked about on my bike) I take it on the chin (or knee, or hip or wherever else i’ve injured)

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        • AidanR
          April 5, 2023 at 12:01 pm
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          Man waves whilst riding bike,
          Man waves whilst riding bike, gets taken out by someone shoving something under his front wheel, then gets blamed for waving. C’mon.

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      • mctrials23
        April 5, 2023 at 12:29 pm
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        Yes. Welcome to the modern

        Yes. Welcome to the modern world where you have to see every event through a political lens. Bad things happening to people on the other side of the politial spectrum are OK because they are clearly horrible people through and through. 

        Its such a bizarre point of view and does nothing but divide people further. 

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      • ktache
        April 5, 2023 at 7:24 pm
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        But would such a prosecution

        But would such a prosecution be politically motivated?

        Deep Skate was very funny though…

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    • Paul J
      April 5, 2023 at 12:21 pm
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      If you look, someone
      If you look, someone deliberately rolled a skateboard into their path. So this is actually an assault on a cyclist.

      Just cause we might disagree with their (perceived) politics does not really justify that or make it funny.

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      • Paul J
        April 5, 2023 at 1:55 pm
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        Oh, and the way road.cc has
        Oh, and the way road.cc has framed this is similarly a bit off too.

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        • cyclisto
          April 5, 2023 at 2:34 pm
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          Imagine exact the same

          Imagine exact the same incident but instead of a saman wanabe, was a mother waving her daughter while cycling and somebody threw a skateboard at her course causing to crash similarly.

          For exact the same incident and same malicious intention what would the road.cc title be “Mother of three falls off bicycle, faceplants… goes viral? I don’t think so…

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    • Adam Sutton
      April 5, 2023 at 1:40 pm
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      I should imagine the same

      I should imagine the same response if someone shoved a skateboard under, I don’t know, say Saint Mikey of Cylings bike.

      However f***ed up a persons beliefs or political leanings. Responses like these are as much why society by and large is in so much trouble. Assault is assault. 

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  8. Hirsute
    April 5, 2023 at 12:37 pm
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    Sanford police up to their
    Sandford police up to their usual!
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Sandford_Police/status/1643549337098567680

    Although I should really practise some emergency stops.
    Not entirely sure of the optimum technique.

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    • IanMSpencer
      April 5, 2023 at 1:07 pm
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      There a couple of replies
      There a couple of replies there that suggest that the authors should give up both their driving and their InterWeb licences.

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  9. Scrapples
    April 5, 2023 at 1:08 pm
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    Cyclist caught ignoring

    Cyclist caught ignoring Britain’s widest cycle lane as she rides in lane dedicated to other traffic (msn.com) https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/cyclist-caught-ignoring-britain-s-widest-cycle-lane-as-she-rides-in-lane-dedicated-to-other-traffic/ar-AA19v904?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=f0acff04822646b7bc3bdd1432764015&ei=83#comments

    Brazen! Don’t see that word often, one from the daily heilers disctionary, plenty of bingo wins in the comments

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    • Shake
      April 5, 2023 at 1:32 pm
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      I rode down that road

      I rode down that road recently, and as can be seen in that photo, it’s so littered with stones you’re almost guaranteed a puncture. Plus as you would expect, the lane stops and starts all the way along the road.

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  10. hutchdaddy
    April 5, 2023 at 1:08 pm
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    More b***ocks from the Daily

    More b***ocks from the Daily Mail

    Cyclist caught ignoring Britain’s widest cycle lane as she rides in lane dedicated to other traffic | Daily Mail Online

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11941587/Cyclist-caught-ignoring-Britains-widest-cycle-lane-rides-lane-dedicated-traffic.html

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    • IanMK
      April 5, 2023 at 1:35 pm
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      One photo of the a cyclist

      One photo of the a cyclist “caught” not using the cycle lane on an, other than a driver overtaking, empty Road. The problem with the cycle lane is obvious from the photo it’s NOT flat and follows the contours of the driveways. It’s obvious that if I want to do 20mph on what looks to be a pretty flat road I need to be on the road NOT the cycle path. Also it’s not clear from a still that she’s not about to turn right.

      Lots of other supporting photos of cyclists, checks notes, actually using the path!

      But why let the facts get in the way of another opportunity to bash cyclists

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      • Seventyone
        April 5, 2023 at 4:29 pm
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        I like in Wimborne and I am
        I like in Wimborne and I am certain this is not the cycle lane that called all the controversy about how wide it is. That one doesn’t have a red surface like this.

        Incidentally that cycle lane is currently out of use in parts for roadworks. In particular there are quite a few signs placed in it warning road users of roadworks, and in some spectacular irony, a large sign warning that there will be “cyclists in carriageway” put in the middle of the cycle lane to ensure this is the case.

        The part of the road which is actually dangerous to cycle on (closest to Wimborne) has no cycle lane on it as it is too narrow.

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    • wtjs
      April 5, 2023 at 2:01 pm
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      It is unnecessary to repeat

      It is unnecessary to repeat this yet again, as we all know it, but I’m about to do it anyway: The Mail is despicable ClarksonScum-Land! Would this execrable hyper-junk rag publish these for the edification of its frothing Tory readers?

      https://upride.cc/incident/ye10aju_mini_redlightcross/

      https://upride.cc/incident/ds6972_porsche_redlightpass/

      https://upride.cc/incident/fd67nej_bmw420_redlightcross/

      https://upride.cc/incident/t90jdt_audiwithcaravan_rljatspeed/

      https://upride.cc/incident/f2yny_rangerover_redlightcross/

      What does this say about the attitude of Tories (and Lancashire Constabulary- they ignored all these offences, and will ignore the most recent) to traffic lights?

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    • brooksby
      April 5, 2023 at 2:30 pm
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      hutchdaddy wrote:

      More b***ocks from the Daily Mail

      Cyclist caught ignoring Britain’s widest cycle lane as she rides in lane dedicated to other traffic | Daily Mail Online

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11941587/Cyclist-caught-ignoring-Britains-widest-cycle-lane-rides-lane-dedicated-traffic.html

      — hutchdaddy

      Unless that road is a motorway, it certainly isn’t a “lane dedicated to other traffic” 

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  11. Matthew Acton-Varian
    April 5, 2023 at 2:59 pm
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    Potholes – Even drivers

    Potholes – Even drivers swerve to avoid them.
    A friend recently took a trip to wath La Ronde and said that the backroads were excellent. 

    It’s almost as if tarmac damage is accelerated by heavy vehicles.

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  12. Dbloke
    April 5, 2023 at 3:39 pm
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    I like the cycle paths round

    I like the cycle paths round Manchester.
    Its like they forget that some of us hate curbs, tramlines and sharp turns

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  13. eburtthebike
    April 5, 2023 at 8:26 pm
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    I checked for ticks after my

    I checked for ticks after my last ride in the Forest: it was the bottom bracket.

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  14. Rome73
    April 6, 2023 at 6:40 am
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    I wonder if Mitt Romney

    I wonder if Mitt Romney recieves any funding from the fossil fuel industry? 

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Rendel Harris 47 minutes ago

@Paul J Van Schip certainly seems a bit of a dick, but he's a European and multiple World Champion on the track, pretty sure you don't get there without having some talent in your legs.

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Bill H 59 minutes ago

Poor Vincent cannot get over the simple fact that given the choice people prefer dedicated cycling spaces, rather than pretending to be cars like vehicular cyclists.

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chrisonabike 2 hours ago

Your correction is accurate - it's almost always been "the (lack of) thought that (doesn't) count". "Massive" - less than a billion a year spent on active travel (trying to catch up / building a network across the entire country) Not massive - 6 billion every year (2026-2030) spent on road *maintenance* of existing "already built, goes everywhere, very convenient" road network for inactive travel Ultimately the reason "cycle infra" is *needed* is those unbelievably colossal amounts spent every year (and for more than a century now) on making mass motoring not just viable but apparently the "best choice" for most journeys. As the Dutch and others have shown, the majority of people *are* prepared to cycle and even mix with very light, slow local motor traffic *if* cycling is also made safe and convenient for the whole of their journey (including secure parking at both ends). (The history of the financial drivers of the current situation are a complex topic but note that while people complain about "crumbling roads" and underfunded motor infra - with some reason - by us continuing the fuel duty escalator freeze (for example) we're actually helping motorists pay *even less* for that activity / subsidising more of the cost of driving than ever.)

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belugabob 2 hours ago

yes, but people will still object - which was my point.

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Astralstroll 4 hours ago

So ' Priority of Road Users' and 1.5 metre clearance at 30mph has been been reduced to 'sharing'? NCN route 2 here in South Hams is an absolute scream with white vans, tractors and total idiots who refuse,or are totally incapable,to reverse on high Devon banked lanes ...means you have to get off and pedal back to a passing place....could be at that all day...so I don't bother...

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Mr Anderson 5 hours ago

@MaxiMinimalist Agreed. The big problem I see now is today's parents grew up being driven to their schools, and therefore, see private motor vehicles as the only viable form of transport. The vast majority of UK infant and primary schools have a catchment area that is within easy walking distance from home to school. Yet, the traffic caused by pupils being driven to/from school is astonishing. Banishing the "School Run" should be a priority for all schools.

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MaxiMinimalist 5 hours ago

When I was a kid (that was during the previous millenium when phones were connected to a plug in the wall), I rode my bicycle to school, music academy, sport grounds, parties even during the winter. The government didn't have to spend, correct that, didn't have to think of spending massive amounts of money to build cycling specific infrastructures. Over the past 3 or 4 decades, cars have grown bigger, taller, safer (for their drivers) and faster. Meanwhile, motorists have become abusive, aggressive, hypersensitive to people moving on two wheels, aka cyclists. Spending billions upon billions on new infrastructure won't address the crux of the matter. Sadly.

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Paul J 6 hours ago

Obree had some actual talent in his legs though, in addition to his bike/aero engineering talent.

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