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Captain Badger wrote:

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This emoji jacket lets cyclists communicate with drivers and hopefully saves lives

Oh yeah. People get killed by drivers cos cyclists  don't communicate emojis to incompetent psychos in hermatically isolated steel boxes

FFS

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GMBasix wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

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This emoji jacket lets cyclists communicate with drivers and hopefully saves lives

Oh yeah. People get killed by drivers cos cyclists  don't communicate emojis to incompetent psychos in hermatically isolated steel boxes

FFS

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I wish I could like that more than once

ROFLYSST

Can it form an icon thats flipping the motorists the bird? 

Secret_squirrel wrote:

Can it form an icon thats flipping the motorists the bird? 

That would definitely be a life saver on its own....

Captain Badger wrote:

re What if the shoe was on the other foot? If cyclists acted like drivers

If nothing else I have learned that hazards/indicators are aka "Blinky orange lights of absolution"

So using that.....

my view is that anyone who puts their hazards on when they park, know they shouldn't be parked where they are.

xcept the morons who always put them on when they park, even if they are parked in the middle of a line of other cars, so it looks like theh are indicating to pull out.

wycombewheeler wrote:

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my view is that anyone who puts their hazards on when they park, know they shouldn't be parked where they are.

xcept the morons who always put them on when they park, even if they are parked in the middle of a line of other cars, so it looks like theh are indicating to pull out.

Quite. You put your BOLAs on when the location of your car is causing a hazard to other road users

So wtf did you put it there???......

(see, I've even got an acronym for them now....)

Captain Badger wrote:

wycombewheeler wrote:

my view is that anyone who puts their hazards on when they park, know they shouldn't be parked where they are.

Quite. You put your BOLAs on when the location of your car is causing a hazard to other road users

So wtf did you put it there???......

You have to remember it is motor vehicles god given right to be on the road and to park wherever they choose.

My other half had a run in with a white van man over the weekend, they were parked half on the road half on the pavement over double yellows.  Where they had parked meant that the pavement was almost completely blocked.  There was a pensioner/disabled man in a mobility scooter stuck waiting to get past the parked van on the pavement but there was not enough room to do so.

My other half asked the van driver to move to let the mobility scooter past only to be met with a barrage of abuse, and to be told that if people like you would let us get on with our job we wouldn't be parked on the pavement for so long.

It was reported to the police and we got told that it was a civil matter and that there was nothing they could do.

The worst part of it is, that not even 72 hours prior to that there was a 91 year old pedestrian killed on the same stretch of road... and white van man was told of this and his face was one of DILLIGAF?

TriTaxMan wrote:

It was reported to the police and we got told that it was a civil matter and that there was nothing they could do.

Plod needs a brush-up on his law.  Parking on yellow lines is de-criminalised, so it is dealt with under civil enforcement. Driving on the footway, while a criminal offence is allegedly only enforceable if the police see the offence happening because apparently they cannot issue a NIP or enforce on the basis of witnesses.  Parking on the footway is unlawful (civil), but causing an obstruction is a criminal matter. 

If they don't want to deal with the matter, it's more accurate to say that they could deal with it but, as the likelihood is that a delivery driver will have moved on by the time they get there, it is not a good use of resources to address a fleeting matter that will self-remedy presently if you wouldn't mind allowing the good burgher continue with his trade.

All of these things are a poort state of affairs, and photo/video evidence of double yellow parking, driving on the footway and footway parking should all be actionable, imho.  Any whinnying that it penalises the trade of the delivery drivers overlooks the matter that any trade that depends on committing offences to be carried out cannot justifiably be protected.

Garage at Large wrote:

TriTaxMan wrote:

My other half had a run in with a white van man over the weekend, they were parked half on the road half on the pavement over double yellows.  Where they had parked meant that the pavement was almost completely blocked.  There was a pensioner/disabled man in a mobility scooter stuck waiting to get past the parked van on the pavement but there was not enough room to do so.

My other half asked the van driver to move to let the mobility scooter past only to be met with a barrage of abuse, and to be told that if people like you would let us get on with our job we wouldn't be parked on the pavement for so long.

It was reported to the police and we got told that it was a civil matter and that there was nothing they could do.

This is one of those events where a little communication and emotional intelligence really bears fruit.

Rather than shouting "Get out of the way, it's my pavement! Or I'll call the police!", I'd always open the conversation (in a polite tone) with "Excuse me, will you be long as my elderly grandfather can't get past, and he's dying for a wee?". You'll then find that the van driver either affirms that he'll be pulling out in the next minute or two, or will smile and move his van to let the gentleman through.

It's all about using a bit of tact on all sides. Read the fable of the North Wind and the Sun - it's a favourite of mine.

Just for one day...do fuck off. Honestly, you must have better things to do? The Guardian website has loads of things you can comment on?

Baby steps, Eddy...

Garage at Large wrote:

the North Wind and the Sun - it's a favourite of mine.

... the Nigelov Garagsky bot has just confirmed that its learning source is made-up fiction anthropomorphising wind and hot air.  One day, it may become sentient.

They had to remove comments on articles because of this ppl like Nige.

Garage at Large wrote:

TriTaxMan wrote:

My other half asked the van driver to move....

Rather than shouting "Get out of the way, it's my pavement! Or I'll call the police!"...

Comprehension really isn't your strong suit is it Colin, making stuff up, slightly better. Now go back to playing with Beachballs like a good Sealion you Tw*t.

Colin ?!

Hope you are not using sexist language there.

xcleigh1247 wrote:

Garage at Large wrote:

TriTaxMan wrote:

My other half asked the van driver to move....

Rather than shouting "Get out of the way, it's my pavement! Or I'll call the police!"...

Comprehension really isn't your strong suit is it Colin, making stuff up, slightly better. Now go back to playing with Beachballs like a good Sealion you Tw*t.

I think that it's Cecil the Sealion who balances multicoloured balls on his nose... 

Garage at Large wrote:

Rather than shouting "Get out of the way, it's my pavement! Or I'll call the police!"

is how you interpret

TriTaxMan wrote:

My other half asked the van driver to move to let the mobility scooter past only to be met with a barrage of abuse

TTM's partner was, it appears, public-spiritedly intervening on behalf of a disabled elderly stranger and there is no indication that s/he was rude in any way - that's a mound of bullshit entirely provided by your own brain. To be fair, you do seem to have a substantial surplus of said substance, but I think we all wish you'd find another outlet for it.

Rendel Harris wrote:

TTM's partner was, it appears, public-spiritedly intervening on behalf of a disabled elderly stranger and there is no indication that s/he was rude in any way - that's a mound of bullshit entirely provided by your own brain. To be fair, you do seem to have a substantial surplus of said substance, but I think we all wish you'd find another outlet for it.

Thanks Rendel, my partner was not rude in the slightest, in fact he was incredibly patient with the van driver before he made the decision to escalate it.  But Nigel really can't help himself he has to jump to conclusions at every chance.

TriTaxMan wrote:

Thanks Rendel, my partner was not rude in the slightest, in fact he was incredibly patient with the van driver before he made the decision to escalate it.  But Nigel really can't help himself he has to jump to conclusions make shit up at every chance.

Where the flag button for the forum to alert mods to continuous baiting ?

hirsute wrote:

TriTaxMan wrote:

Thanks Rendel, my partner was not rude in the slightest, in fact he was incredibly patient with the van driver before he made the decision to escalate it.  But Nigel really can't help himself he has to jump to conclusions make shit up at every chance.

Where the flag button for the forum to alert mods to continuous baiting ?

He can bait all he want's as far as I am concerned but he won't be on the receiving end of polite replies when he does.

TriTaxMan wrote:

Thanks Rendel, my partner was not rude in the slightest, in fact he was incredibly patient with the van driver before he made the decision to escalate it.  But Nigel really can't help himself he has to jump to conclusions at every chance.

I guessed as much. Only in Nigeworld is trying to help a disabled person in the face of selfishness and aggression from drivers a discourteous act. Chapeau to your partner for doing the right thing.

Garage at Large wrote:

This is one of those events where a little communication and emotional intelligence really bears fruit.

Rather than shouting "Get out of the way, it's my pavement! Or I'll call the police!", I'd always open the conversation (in a polite tone) with "Excuse me, will you be long as my elderly grandfather can't get past, and he's dying for a wee?". You'll then find that the van driver either affirms that he'll be pulling out in the next minute or two, or will smile and move his van to let the gentleman through.

It's all about using a bit of tact on all sides. Read the fable of the North Wind and the Sun - it's a favourite of mine.

Nigel you really need to crawl back under your bridge.

As I said my partner asked the van driver if they would move their van off the pavement to allow the elderly gentleman past.  And the contacting the police was only ever mentioned after the initial barrage of abuse that my partner received.

And trust me my partner has more emotional intelligence in their little finger than you have in your entire overly self important body you reprehensible troll.  I mean if you actually had any emotional intelligence you would have managed to read my initial statement correctly in the first place.

There We Are Then.

What is this indicating to pull out that you talk of?

That's a new one.

I always thought those orange pieces of plastic on the corner of cars was for decoration. I feel so stupid now.

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

What is this indicating to pull out that you talk of?

That's a new one.

I always thought those orange pieces of plastic on the corner of cars was for decoration. I feel so stupid now.

Just because it doesn't often happen. If I'm cycling past a line of 20 parked cars, and the offside BOLA on the 10th one is flashing, I am going to ride expecting them to pull out on me. 

Very frustrating to reach the car and find out both lights are flashng, and it is apparently parked.

wycombewheeler wrote:

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

What is this indicating to pull out that you talk of?

That's a new one.

I always thought those orange pieces of plastic on the corner of cars was for decoration. I feel so stupid now.

Just because it doesn't often happen. If I'm cycling past a line of 20 parked cars, and the offside BOLA on the 10th one is flashing, I am going to ride expecting them to pull out on me. 

Very frustrating to reach the car and find out both lights are flashng, and it is apparently parked.

 

I agree on the misleading impact of using hazards mid-row.  But if I'm cycling past a line of 20 parked cars, I am going to ride expecting any of them to pull out on me. 

What used to really annoy me was when I cycled in London and some vehicle, often a lorry, would be parked with the BOLAs on and you would move to overtake, but then they would pullout right in front of you, still with all the lights going.

I could see very clearly they were a hazard without the lights!

What I wanted to know idls that they were planning to rejoin the traffic

Seventyone wrote:

..... parked with the BOLAs on and ......

Yay! The movement is growing.
Remember people, you saw it here first!

Captain Badger wrote:

Seventyone wrote:

..... parked with the BOLAs on and ......

Yay! The movement is growing. Remember people, you saw it here first!

Intermittently.

wycombewheeler wrote:

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and the offside BOLA on the 10th one is flashing,

........

 

Wooohooooo!! It's becoming a thing!