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Peloton coaches get Mazda electric cars
leannehainsby Instagram) (Image Credit: Mazda/leannehainsby Instagram)

“If only there were a way of combining cycling with transport”: Peloton coaches drive Mazda electric cars…to “support their active lifestyle”; Wout van Aert Cervélo auction reaches £11k; Cycle lane delivery; Infra made permanent + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Dan Alexander is here for your second live blog of the week, taking you one day closer to the weekend (anybody got any plans? Heard it’s just a quiet one this week)
  • by Dan Alexander
Tue, Dec 21, 2021 09:13
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SUMMARY

  • EF Education-Nippo boss Jonathan Vaughters asks the big question
  • "If only there were a way of combining cycling with transport": Peloton coaches drive Mazda electric cars...to "support their active lifestyle"
  • Summer is just around the corner
  • Comment of the day (so far)
  • Wout van Aert Cervélo auction reaches £11k (+ Jumbo-Visma rider wins second successive Belgian Sportsman of the Year)
  • "A true classic of the genre" 10/10
  • Hull City Council votes to keep emergency cycle lanes
  • Lizzie Deignan: You can stop asking me about retirement
  • Apprentice star Claude Littner to miss upcoming season while continuing recovery from e-bike crash
  • More barrier problems
  • Egan Bernal plots battle strategy for Primož Doglič and Tadej Dogačar
  • More Peloton-roasting Mazdapieces...
  • Thief steals e-bike worth more than £5,000 after tricking staff into letting him have a test ride
  • EF Education-Nippo boss Jonathan Vaughters asks the big question
Peloton coaches get Mazda electric cars
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21 December 2021, 09:13

EF Education-Nippo boss Jonathan Vaughters asks the big question

So… Hate to ask… But, what is Santa Claus’ vaccine status?

— Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) December 20, 2021

I want to see his biological passport and Rudolph’s FTP before I let you down that chimney… 

21 December 2021, 09:13

"If only there were a way of combining cycling with transport": Peloton coaches drive Mazda electric cars...to "support their active lifestyle"

Peloton instructors take a spin with Mazda.@onepeloton‘s leading fitness coaches, Leanne and Ben, will be living with the all-electric #MazdaMX30 for six months, experiencing how the model supports their active lifestyle. pic.twitter.com/IrW5AN1Jcy

— Mazda UK (@Mazda_UK) December 20, 2021

This one has got real end of term vibes…like the people at Mazda were sat around trying to find a way to justify their partnership with Peloton’s coaches Leanne Hainsby and Ben Alldis, couldn’t think of anything vaguely plausible, so thought ‘to hell with it’ it’s Christmas, we’ll just say it’s to “support their active lifestyle”… that makes sense, doesn’t it?

If there is one thing Twitter is good for, it’s watching brand’s and ‘famous’ people get roasted when they try to promote something silly. And boy has Mazda been on the receiving end this morning…

If only there were some way of combining cycling with transport

— Stuart Helmer (@stuarthelmer) December 20, 2021

OR RIDE A BICYCLE!

— Elisabeth Anderson 💉💉💉 (@velobetty) December 20, 2021

Working the social media feed of a car manufacturer must be hilarious. Look up the phrases that mean ‘not owning a car’, then sticking them into your feed. Job done.

— Jon (@Jontafkasi) December 20, 2021

But what did the ‘cyclists’ say?

Well, Ben Alldis’ paid partnership Insta post promoting the vehicle showed him driving it around London and said: “it’s been the absolute dream […] It’s a great car for city living during the week and perfect for getting out of the city to see family and friends across the weekends.” There were unfortunately no clips of Ben inevitably stuck in a queue of drivers while cyclists on non-two grand subscription exercise bikes streamed past…

I could share some of Leanne’s post (which reads like…well, a Mazda advert) but I was preferring hearing what the good people of cycling Twitter had to say about the whole debacle, so let’s do more of that…

It doesn’t support an active lifestyle. It’s a car. It means they drive when they could use other ‘active‘ means. Stop trying to greenwash.

— Peter Smith (@Pinarello_Pete) December 21, 2021

Riviera Rider replied: “Instead of riding an actual bike to get around London, spin cycling instructors promote an electric car under the guise of ‘supporting an active lifestyle’ by driving through the country’s best city for public transport.” That’s…pretty much it…

“I’m gonna ride my peloton for 45 minutes then drive 10 minutes to buy an ice cream!”

— Nick, aka John Forester’s Worst Nightmare (@c_rless) December 20, 2021

you’re going to get absolutely bodied here and fully deserve it, all the best

— dan hett (@danhett) December 20, 2021

We’ll be back with more reaction in a bit…

21 December 2021, 09:13

Summer is just around the corner

Happy #WinterSolstice. ❄️💙 It’s easy to get wrapped up in the busyness of the festive season – a blast of fresh air and time out in nature can do wonders for our wellbeing.

We’d love you to share your winter rides by tagging #WeAreCyclingUK 👇📸 pic.twitter.com/yDn0soMVz4

— Cycling UK (@WeAreCyclingUK) December 21, 2021

You’ve done it…today’s the shortest day of the year. From here we creep back towards those long spring and summer evenings. We’ll keep our eyes peeled for anyone marking the shortest day with their longest or similar challenges… 

21 December 2021, 09:13

21 December 2021, 09:13

Comment of the day (so far)

and you don’t stand there holding the nozzle like you are putting in 40l of unleaded. She must have stood there for hours!

— Mr Mustard (@_MrMustard) December 21, 2021

 

21 December 2021, 09:13

Wout van Aert Cervélo auction reaches £11k (+ Jumbo-Visma rider wins second successive Belgian Sportsman of the Year)

Wout Van Aert on Stage 11 of 2021 Tour de France 03 A.S.O., Pauline Ballet
Wout Van Aert on Stage 11 of 2021 Tour de France 03 A.S.O (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wout Van Aert on Stage 11 of 2021 Tour de France 03 A.S.O., Pauline Ballet
Wout Van Aert on Stage 11 of 2021 Tour de France 03 A.S.O (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The auction for Wout van Aert’s Mont Ventoux stage-winning Cervélo is up to €13,250 (£11,289), while his Tour of Britain-winning R5’s top bid is currently €7,500 (£6,390). Primož Roglič’s special red Vuelta-winning bike is still only at €6,000 (£5,113). Bargain.

> Want to buy Wout van Aert’s Mont Ventoux stage-winning Cervélo? Here’s how much it will cost you

Elsewhere in Van Aert news, the 27-year-old was, on Sunday, crowned Belgian Sportsman of the Year for a second successive year. Van Aert beat Olympic bronze medallist runner Bashir Abdi and judoka Matthias Casse to the award organised by Sporza.

“I thought it would be difficult to win again, certainly with this opposition. But that makes it all the more beautiful,” Van Aert said afterwards.

21 December 2021, 09:13

21 December 2021, 09:13

"A true classic of the genre" 10/10

A true classic of the genre pic.twitter.com/RDqH0ZmIcp

— fightforyourright (@theyoungapple) December 20, 2021

21 December 2021, 09:13

21 December 2021, 09:13

Hull City Council votes to keep emergency cycle lanes

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oxon travel cycle lane picture 2 - via twitter (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
oxon travel cycle lane picture 2 - via twitter.PNG
oxon travel cycle lane picture 2 – via twitter (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Cycle lanes in Hull, first introduced last year as an emergency measure in response to the pandemic, will be made permanent following a vote by councillors. Hull City Council had earlier approved plans to keep the segregated lanes in the city centre.

Ann Hutchinson, a member of CycHull, told the BBC the Spring Bank infrastructure helped make people feel safe using the route. 

“It makes people keep a wider berth around you so they are not so close and it can be pretty scary if something zooms right past you.” 

Council monitoring of the lane showed a 37 per cent increase in cyclists, with around 1,000 using the infrastructure each day.

Councillor Dean Kirk is responsible for highways and transport, he said: “The way in which we travel is changing, and how we share the road space is a key consideration for the council.

“We appreciate that changes to how people travel may not happen overnight, but our ambition is to build a transport network that works for everyone.”

21 December 2021, 09:13

Lizzie Deignan: You can stop asking me about retirement

Lizzie Deignan of Trek Segafredo practises for the Olympic Cobble Relay after winning Paris-Roubaix - credit Dion Kerckhoffs:CorVos:SWpix.com_.JPG
Lizzie Deignan of Trek Segafredo practises for the Olympic Cobble Relay after winning Paris-Roubaix - credit Dion Kerckhoffs:CorVos:SWpix.com_ (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Lizzie Deignan of Trek Segafredo practises for the Olympic Cobble Relay after winning Paris-Roubaix - credit Dion Kerckhoffs:CorVos:SWpix.com_.JPG
Lizzie Deignan of Trek Segafredo practises for the Olympic Cobble Relay after winning Paris-Roubaix – credit Dion Kerckhoffs:CorVos:SWpix.com_ (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Lizzie Deignan sat down with Cyclingnews to talk about her historic season, and said speculation about her retirement can be put on hold for now. Deignan won the inaugural women’s Paris-Roubaix in October and said the pandemic has made her more appreciative of the sport.

“I would say you can stop asking me about retirement,” she said. “I’ll let you know when I’m thinking about it again.”

The Trek-Segafredo rider, who turned 33 on Saturday, stepped away from pro cycling in 2018 to give birth to her first child, and had suggested she would be ready to call it a day after the Tokyo Olympics.

“Being a professional athlete has its difficult times, but you look around and realise that, in the middle of a pandemic when people are struggling, I’m still getting to travel the world and still getting paid to ride my bike,” Deignan said.

21 December 2021, 09:13

21 December 2021, 09:13

Apprentice star Claude Littner to miss upcoming season while continuing recovery from e-bike crash

Claude Littner (picture via BBC)
Claude Littner (picture via BBC) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Claude Littner (picture via BBC)
Claude Littner (picture via BBC) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Anyone hoping for disasterclass interviews and red faces on the next season of The Apprentice may have to look elsewhere. No-nonsense aide to Lord Alan Sugar, Claude Littner, will not be on the latest season when it airs on the BBC in January.

> Apprentice star Claude Littner reveals he almost lost leg in e-bike crash

The 72-year-old crashed while riding his e-bike in north London in April. Doctors initially feared they may have to amputate Littner’s leg but managed to save it.

“I must have been doing no more than 10 kilometres an hour on this sort of two-track road. The next thing I knew, I was on the left-hand side of the street, my bike was in the middle of the road and I didn’t know what happened,” Littner said previously.

21 December 2021, 09:13

More barrier problems

I give up 😭- new path extension on the strawberry line. Not yet open and already out dated. Look at it! Big metal monster barrier. It’s also so narrow any bars over 50-60cm won’t go through. Was this approved by @Sustrans? pic.twitter.com/ZEkDi8Hrjb

— Ken Borg (@kenborg24) December 19, 2021

If you missed it, on Sunday, we brought you the story of cycle campaigners in York calling on the council to remove “shameful” barriers preventing disabled cyclists accessing the city’s paths.

 This post shows it’s a problem elsewhere in the UK, and not just where infrastructure is outdated…

21 December 2021, 09:13

Egan Bernal plots battle strategy for Primož Doglič and Tadej Dogačar

Quienes amanecieron consentidos hoy?? 😭 pic.twitter.com/YQGyvV0cwZ

— Egan Arley Bernal (@Eganbernal) December 21, 2021

Never mind who let the dogs out? Why isn’t Egan letting the dogs in? Answers, we need them… 

21 December 2021, 09:13

21 December 2021, 09:13

More Peloton-roasting Mazdapieces...

I guess just riding a bike outside wouldn’t be very on-brand for Peloton. https://t.co/Eh2Hl4cYED

— Doug van den Ham (@DvdHam) December 21, 2021

Some delicious replies and reaction to our main live blog story of the day — Peloton’s instructors driving Mazda electric cars to “support their active lifestyle”…

Chris Harrison summed it up on Twitter, “2021 —  when ‘active lifestyle’ means an electric car and a fake bike.”

Ian Muirhead had some radical advice for the pair…”

This is spectacularly bad. “Fitness coaches” who train people on fake bikes promoting electric cars for an active lifestyle.

I’m going to be a maverick, but perhaps they could get a real bike and use it for both transport and fitness. It’d replace both the car & the peloton… https://t.co/0QiZlN3uf3

— Ian Muirhead (@ian_muirhead) December 21, 2021

Some were just concerned nobody had told her you don’t have to pour the electricity in like petrol…

Everyone rightly dunking on Peloton for this link-up in the replies but does… does she think you have to pour the electricity in like petrol? https://t.co/Db9MNQfgDH

— Ade Rixon (@aderixon) December 20, 2021

Graham Black commented: “Someone please tell her you don’t have to stand there and hold the nozzle while it’s charging…”

Eton Rifle added: “I love the way she seems to think that you have to stand there, holding the nozzle, waiting for the electricity to pour in. Don’t forget to jiggle the end to get those last watts out…”

On Facebook, Pete Smyth wrote: “To support my healthy diet, I’m going to open a donut shop…”

Under the live blog, DoomeFrog thinks they’ve got a better alternative, Peloton instructors charge their Mazda cars through their classes…”It could be active lifestyle if the Peloton exercise machine was used to generate the electricity to go into the car. ‘Let’s work it people, just another 95 per cent charge to go!’”

21 December 2021, 09:13

21 December 2021, 09:13

Thief steals e-bike worth more than £5,000 after tricking staff into letting him have a test ride

Les's Cycles Canvey (Google Maps)
Les's Cycles Canvey (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Les's Cycles Canvey (Google Maps)
Les's Cycles Canvey (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A thief tricked staff into letting him take an e-bike worth more than £5,000 for a test ride, only to make off with the bicycle. Paul Diani, owner of Les’s Cycles, in Canvey in Essex told the Echo he has changed his policy about test rides, and feels “violated in his own business”.

The man came into the shop on Thursday at around 1.50pm and asked to see a high-end e-bike. “He took it out and then on the way back just rode right past the staff who gave chase and was out for about 15 minutes,” Mr Diani recalled.

“It’s a Scott Randsome 920 and is high end with full suspension and high technology gears and other features. We don’t get them in often and they do sell quickly when we do. It’s normal for them to sell for this much money and for shoppers to want to try out the bikes too. I don’t know if he had a van or anything or if it was planned or anything.

“He was pretty tall and was wearing a mask and cap too and seemed like a normal chap. I will need to sell about 10 bikes to make that money back. We are also changing the rules for people who want to test out a bike too.

“We will be asking for people’s car keys and identification too otherwise nobody will get a ride on the bikes. It’s a loss of business as well as most people are honest and will buy the bike after trying it out.”

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I want to see his biological passport and Rudolph’s FTP before I let you down that chimney… 

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21 December 2021, 09:13

Police return bike to theft victim – before he knew it had been stolen

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21 December 2021, 09:13

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Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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54 thoughts on ““If only there were a way of combining cycling with transport”: Peloton coaches drive Mazda electric cars…to “support their active lifestyle”; Wout van Aert Cervélo auction reaches £11k; Cycle lane delivery; Infra made permanent + more on the live blog”

  1. Eton Rifle
    December 21, 2021 at 9:42 am
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    I love the way she seems to
    I love the way she seems to think that you have to stand there, holding the nozzle, waiting for the electricity to pour in. Don’t forget to jiggle the end to get those last watts out…

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    • Cupov
      December 21, 2021 at 10:10 am
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      Old habits die hard I guess

      Old habits die hard I guess

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      • Awavey
        December 21, 2021 at 11:11 am
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        It’s not a photo of her
        It’s not a photo of her ‘filling up the car’ it’s a snap photo of her connecting the car to the charging point, which everyone accepts you do have to do to get it to recharge right ?

        The brief would have been simple we want the car the charging point (because it’s an electric car) and Leanne all in the same picture, so how do you arrange them in any other way ?

        I dont see anything wrong with this photo or the campaign, and never understand why people get so grouchy about these really trivial things, that are tenuous at best directly linked to cycling as an activity.

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        • Cupov
          December 21, 2021 at 11:20 am
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          without her holding the ‘pump

          without her holding the ‘pump’ handle as if she’s ‘pumping fuel’. why not just car, charing point and person in the same frame. or is that not relatable enough?

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          • chrisonabike
            December 21, 2021 at 11:55 am
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            “Technology idea lag” / (like

            “Technology idea lag” / (like an accidental skeuomorph)? Bit like the “on the phone” hand sign which mimics an older handset design, not a smartphone. (I personally favour the “separate microphone and earpiece” one. But only Jacob Rees Mogg understands me and he can dismiss me as part of the avant gard.)

          • wycombewheeler
            December 21, 2021 at 1:24 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            “Technology idea lag” / (like an accidental skeuomorph)? Bit like the “on the phone” hand sign which mimics an older handset design, not a smartphone. (I personally favour the “separate microphone and earpiece” one. But only Jacob Rees Mogg understands me and he can dismiss me as part of the avant gard.)

            — chrisonatrike

            lovig the image of Rees Mogg picking up his two part landline phone and asking the operator to connect him to whomever he needs to communicate with.

          • chrisonabike
            December 21, 2021 at 1:38 pm
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            wycombewheeler wrote:

            “Technology idea lag” / (like an accidental skeuomorph)? Bit like the “on the phone” hand sign which mimics an older handset design, not a smartphone. (I personally favour the “separate microphone and earpiece” one. But only Jacob Rees Mogg understands me and he can dismiss me as part of the avant gard.)

            — wycombewheeler

            lovig the image of Rees Mogg picking up his two part landline phone and asking the operator to connect him to whomever he needs to communicate with.

            — chrisonatrike

            He can again! “OK Google / Alexa / Siri – connect me to Lord Palmerston’s residence”. Alternatively for the Edwardian in your life Amazon have your sack covered.

          • Bmblbzzz
            December 21, 2021 at 3:17 pm
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            JRM has a butler to answer

            JRM has a butler to answer and ‘place’ telephone calls. Doesn’t he?

          • Compact Corned Beef
            December 21, 2021 at 2:08 pm
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            Thanks for the wiki link –

            Thanks for the wiki link – fascinating stuff. I recall someone trying to argue against using things like letter icons for e-mail a ways back, but presumably we’ll soon reach an inflection point where letters are considered to be ‘like, IRL e-mails, innit’.

          • wycombewheeler
            December 21, 2021 at 1:25 pm
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            Cupov wrote:

            without her holding the ‘pump’ handle as if she’s ‘pumping fuel’. why not just car, charing point and person in the same frame. or is that not relatable enough?

            — Cupov

            maybe it’s so rapid she might as well hold it because it won’t take long

        • wycombewheeler
          December 21, 2021 at 1:26 pm
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          Awavey wrote:

          It’s not a photo of her ‘filling up the car’ it’s a snap photo of her connecting the car to the charging point,

          — Awavey

          Proving she can connect it without looking?

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      December 21, 2021 at 10:59 am
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      For anyone who has an EV,

      For anyone who has an EV, what is the cost of leccy from one of those charge points compared to home charges?

       

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      • Tom_77
        December 21, 2021 at 11:35 am
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        AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

        For anyone who has an EV, what is the cost of leccy from one of those charge points compared to home charges?

         

        — AlsoSomniloquism

        https://www.esbenergy.co.uk/ev/pricing-payg

        Looks like it’s 30p/kWh, about twice what you’d pay to charge it at home.

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      • vsmith1
        December 21, 2021 at 12:53 pm
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        As she is using a CCS Rapid

        As she is using a CCS Rapid (50kW+) charger then ESB Energy is 30p per kWh. At home, it would be a Fast 7kW charger, depending on your tariff (eg Octopus Go – 16p or 5p per kWh). She could be using a  7kW at a supermarket for free (eg some Sainsburys, Tesco).

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    • Blackthorne
      December 21, 2021 at 11:17 am
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      Overthinking much? She’s just

      Overthinking much? She’s just posing for the camera…. if your mockery seems to imply that driving or having a contract with Mazda  makes her a hypocrite of some sort well everyone myself included is going to hell then

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      • brooksby
        December 21, 2021 at 12:40 pm
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        I think the mockery is aimed

        I think the mockery is aimed more at the company trying to greenwash.

        Being a Peloton trainer doesn’t automatically make you more or less green than the next person, and nobody is having a go at the Pelotonners.

        But Mazda claiming that driving an electric car ‘supports an active lifestyle’ makes it look as if they are claiming that the EV is by itself a ‘green’ mode of transport.

        An EV is greener than some modes of transport, but only for certain values or categories of ‘green’.

        EDIT: I suppose Mazda maybe are saying you can strap your MTB to the back and use their EV to drive somewhere to ride around in mud, instead of riding there, but you could say that about any ICE vehicle too… (“I use my ten year old diesel Mondeo to support my active lifestyle”).

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        • vsmith1
          December 21, 2021 at 12:55 pm
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          Just to note that the Mazda

          Just to note that the Mazda does not support a towing hitch, eg for a hitch-mounted bicycle rack, but it does support load on the roof. 

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        • chrisonabike
          December 21, 2021 at 1:00 pm
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          The active travel future –

          The active travel future – electric pickup trucks.

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          • brooksby
            December 21, 2021 at 1:35 pm
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            Reminds me of that picture of

            Reminds me of that picture of congestion now, and then congestion when everyone has electric vehicles.  Surprise, surprise – they look the same!

            How will ‘refuelling’ EVs work anyway – when you have queues at petrol stations now, for the few minutes it takes to put dead dinosaur juice in an ICE car, how will it work for queuing at EV recharge points?

        • Dnnnnnn
          December 21, 2021 at 1:09 pm
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          brooksby wrote:

          (“I use my ten year old diesel Mondeo to support my active lifestyle”)

          — brooksby

          Pre-pandemic, I imagine quite a few of us used short-haul flights to support our active lifestyles. But at least we weren’t flying to the supermarket…

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          • chrisonabike
            December 21, 2021 at 1:21 pm
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            Well if it’s self-criticism

            Well if it’s self-criticism time I confess I have regularly used cars, vans and trains to access the countryside although I do ride there sometimes too (thereby not making it a journey – you can’t win). I also wish for several counts of not having grown my own bike to be taken in to consideration.

          • brooksby
            December 21, 2021 at 1:33 pm
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            Duncann wrote:

            (“I use my ten year old diesel Mondeo to support my active lifestyle”)

            — Duncann

            Pre-pandemic, I imagine quite a few of us used short-haul flights to support our active lifestyles. But at least we weren’t flying to the supermarket…

            — brooksby

            True.

            (and just to be clear, that quote wasn’t by me but was an entirely fictional quote that I imagine some people could use…).

            (and – I haven’t flown anywhere since 1981.  My wife and children have never flown).

          • chrisonabike
            December 21, 2021 at 4:24 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            (and – I haven’t flown anywhere since 1981.  My wife and children have never flown).

            — brooksby

            Aha!  Children!  That’s the biggest climate crime, comrade! Unless you’re outsourcing them somewhere much less resource-intensive.

          • brooksby
            December 22, 2021 at 10:10 am
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            (and – I haven’t flown anywhere since 1981.  My wife and children have never flown).

            — chrisonatrike

            Aha!  Children!  That’s the biggest climate crime, comrade! Unless you’re outsourcing them somewhere much less resource-intensive.

            — brooksby

            Nothing I can do about that now…

  2. Bmblbzzz
    December 21, 2021 at 9:54 am
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    I’m not sure criticism of

    I’m not sure criticism of Mazda is justified here. They’re just doing their job, promoting their cars. It’s Peloton who are trying to somehow cram these cars into their brand, presumably in order to fulfill some kind of agreement with Mazda. And as Peloton’s business is a sort of gym that you do at home, it’s hard to see how driving fits in to it. But let’s not kid ourselves that either Peloton or Mazda have anything to do with cycling.

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    • HoarseMann
      December 21, 2021 at 10:05 am
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      Bmblbzzz wrote:

      And as Peloton’s business is a sort of gym that you do at home, it’s hard to see how driving fits in to it. 

      — Bmblbzzz

      Everyone drives to the gym. So for the full home gym experience, you’ve got to do a lap of your housing estate in the EV before you hop on the Peloton.

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    • Steve K
      December 21, 2021 at 10:07 am
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      Bmblbzzz wrote:

      I’m not sure criticism of Mazda is justified here. They’re just doing their job, promoting their cars. 

      — Bmblbzzz

      But they claimed driving a car supported an active lifestyle.  Up until that final sentence I would have agreed with you.

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    • hawkinspeter
      December 21, 2021 at 10:08 am
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      Bmblbzzz wrote:

      I’m not sure criticism of Mazda is justified here. They’re just doing their job, promoting their cars. It’s Peloton who are trying to somehow cram these cars into their brand, presumably in order to fulfill some kind of agreement with Mazda. And as Peloton’s business is a sort of gym that you do at home, it’s hard to see how driving fits in to it. But let’s not kid ourselves that either Peloton or Mazda have anything to do with cycling.

      — Bmblbzzz

      Well, it is Mazda promoting it and it’s always cringeworthy when a car manufacturer tries to link their product with active lifestyle (not travel!) and nature. It’s surprising how many car adverts are now all about the image and very little about the product (almost as bad as perfume ads).

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      • Bmblbzzz
        December 21, 2021 at 3:25 pm
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        I’m not sure criticism of Mazda is justified here. They’re just doing their job, promoting their cars. It’s Peloton who are trying to somehow cram these cars into their brand, presumably in order to fulfill some kind of agreement with Mazda. And as Peloton’s business is a sort of gym that you do at home, it’s hard to see how driving fits in to it. But let’s not kid ourselves that either Peloton or Mazda have anything to do with cycling.

        — hawkinspeter

        Well, it is Mazda promoting it and it’s always cringeworthy when a car manufacturer tries to link their product with active lifestyle (not travel!) and nature. It’s surprising how many car adverts are now all about the image and very little about the product (almost as bad as perfume ads).

        — Bmblbzzz

        I got the impression it was a Peloton promotion: “Look how green we are!” – which Mazda had simply cooperated with. I’d think makers of EVs get loads of slebs and firms wanting to be seen in their “green transport”. It’s just particularly cringeworthy when it’s something supposedly “active” like Peloton. 

        Agree absolutely that it’s greenwashing on all sides, and as for car adverts being about image not the product – that’s been largely the case for a couple of decades (certainly pre-EVs). Though admittedly it used to be more cup holders and cosy living-room interiors rather than running on unicorn farts and emitting a trail of rainbows.

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        • hawkinspeter
          December 21, 2021 at 4:13 pm
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          The tweet was by Mazda UK

          The tweet was by Mazda UK

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      • PRSboy
        December 21, 2021 at 4:11 pm
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        Well, it is Mazda promoting it and it’s always cringeworthy when a car manufacturer tries to link their product with active lifestyle (not travel!) and nature. It’s surprising how many car adverts are now all about the image and very little about the product (almost as bad as perfume ads).

        — hawkinspeter

        I think it was ever thus… the sports car carving through corners down a deserted twisting coast road toward an exclusive seaside town… the SUV in the woods, with a strapping owner unloading a MTB, canoe and a tent.

        The reality of sitting in a traffic jam in a generic hatchback SUV-thing in drizzle trying to get to B&Q wouldn’t really appeal.

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    • Captain Badger
      December 21, 2021 at 10:14 am
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      Bmblbzzz wrote:

      I’m not sure criticism of Mazda is justified here. They’re just doing their job, promoting their cars. It’s Peloton who are trying to somehow cram these cars into their brand, presumably in order to fulfill some kind of agreement with Mazda. And as Peloton’s business is a sort of gym that you do at home, it’s hard to see how driving fits in to it. But let’s not kid ourselves that either Peloton or Mazda have anything to do with cycling.

      — Bmblbzzz

      Yes, and their job is planet trashing and green washing
      So that’s alright then…

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  3. Hirsute
    December 21, 2021 at 10:18 am
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    “They fall over on real bikes

    “They fall over on real bikes”

     

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  4. PRSboy
    December 21, 2021 at 10:19 am
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    With a Mazda MX30 they will

    With a Mazda MX30 they will need to get very familiar with charging up, with real world range of around 100 miles.  Not really fit for purpose and waste of resources.

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    • vsmith1
      December 21, 2021 at 12:48 pm
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      Poor choice of a BEV, an ICE

      Poor choice of a BEV, an ICE car with the engine, etc. replaced with an electric motor and battery. The battery is small (30kWh). This would have been a reasonable BEV from about 3-4 years ago.

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    • bobrayner
      December 21, 2021 at 12:55 pm
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      Most car journeys are much

      Most car journeys are much shorter than 100 miles. It’ll be reet.

      Range anxiety is a real problem, but realistically if you’re going to drive to Skye once a year, you can rent a car for that, or use your household’s second car, or get a range-extended hybrid or whatever. (I’ve seen some electric car advocates suggest that we get used to regular, wholesome stops at motorway services to stretch our legs and drink a £5 coffee. Not sure I’d go that far in my advocacy).

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      • HarrogateSpa
        December 21, 2021 at 6:42 pm
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        You can buy a Thermos for £5!

        You can buy a Thermos for £5!

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  5. DoomeFrog
    December 21, 2021 at 10:49 am
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    It could be active lifestyle

    It could be active lifestyle if the Peleton Excercise machine was used to generate the electricity to go into the car.

    “Let’s work it people, just another 95% charge to go!”

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    • PRSboy
      December 21, 2021 at 11:04 am
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      DoomeFrog wrote:

      It could be active lifestyle if the Peleton Excercise machine was used to generate the electricity to go into the car.

      “Let’s work it people, just another 95% charge to go!”

      — DoomeFrog

      That would have been a good promotion actually… get ‘credit’ for the watts you produce during a Peloton workouts to get free charging.  You could be there a while though before you got a charge…

      https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a32699289/human-powered-tesla/

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    • IanMSpencer
      December 21, 2021 at 3:57 pm
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      I’m waiting for them to
      I’m waiting for them to invent an e-bike with a generator on it to keep it charged in perpetuity while you are cycling using the forward momentum.

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      • brooksby
        December 21, 2021 at 4:08 pm
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        Like a hybrid EV, then? Which

        Like a hybrid EV, then? Which (as I understand it) uses the ICE to charge the battery on longer drives, so the battery is available when you’re in town and/or at low speeds.

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      • Rendel Harris
        December 21, 2021 at 4:28 pm
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        Saw a comment on the Daily

        Saw a comment on the Daily Mail website recently which said “Why don’t electric cars have windmills on top so they could generate electricity when they go along and then they wouldn’t need charging stations.” 

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        • wtjs
          December 21, 2021 at 4:39 pm
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          That’s one dim comment for a

          That’s one dim comment for a man, but a giant intellectual leap for a Daily Mail reader

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        • chrisonabike
          December 21, 2021 at 4:42 pm
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          Well as long as they’re going

          Well as long as they’re going upwind they’re on the right tack… Update: or downwind too!

           

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  6. AlsoSomniloquism
    December 21, 2021 at 4:40 pm
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    It is a shame for Les’s

    It is a shame for Les’s Cycles that they met a dickwad thief, but I’m surprised they didn’t already have something in place for test rides, either someone riding with them or credit card and photo id. I know Road.cc at Cannock Chase and The Cycle show had someone handing over cards on their testing days and full ID required to prove card was genuine.

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  7. Hirsute
    December 21, 2021 at 5:05 pm
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    Why you shouldn’t drive suv

    Why you shouldn’t drive suv in central london as it is impossible to see properly

    https://twitter.com/WorldBollard/status/1473255639463960581

     

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  8. HarrogateSpa
    December 21, 2021 at 6:44 pm
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    I’m not interested in Peloton

    I’m not interested in Peloton and I don’t believe electric cars are The Answer, but…I’m uncomfortable with social media pile-ons, and the ritual humiliation of the day’s target.

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    • Ride On
      December 21, 2021 at 9:40 pm
      0

      Yeah leave her alone, she
      Yeah leave her alone, she does her job and isn’t going to cycling everywhere.

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    • hawkinspeter
      December 22, 2021 at 9:39 am
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      HarrogateSpa wrote:

      I’m not interested in Peloton and I don’t believe electric cars are The Answer, but…I’m uncomfortable with social media pile-ons, and the ritual humiliation of the day’s target.

      — HarrogateSpa

      I think it’s fair enough if it’s marketing twaddle and the humiliation is aimed at a company.

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  9. Hirsute
    December 21, 2021 at 7:58 pm
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    Cyclist on audi/bmw bike

    Cyclist on audi/bmw bike

    https://twitter.com/WorldBollard/status/1469417823575420939

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  10. Rome73
    December 22, 2021 at 8:32 am
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    The Peloton / Mazda story

    The Peloton / Mazda story reminds me of people I see in the gym – who drive to the gym, park up and then get on the tread mill. Just walk or jog to the gym; you’ll get a better workout. And then you can turn around and run home again and save on subscription fees too. 

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    • hawkinspeter
      December 22, 2021 at 8:55 am
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      Lukas wrote:

      The Peloton / Mazda story reminds me of people I see in the gym – who drive to the gym, park up and then get on the tread mill. Just walk or jog to the gym; you’ll get a better workout. And then you can turn around and run home again and save on subscription fees too. 

      — Lukas

      That’s why gyms prefer to use a locked-in subscription model – if you’re already paying for the use of a gym, then not using it would be wasting money.

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      • wycombewheeler
        December 22, 2021 at 9:22 am
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        The Peloton / Mazda story reminds me of people I see in the gym – who drive to the gym, park up and then get on the tread mill. Just walk or jog to the gym; you’ll get a better workout. And then you can turn around and run home again and save on subscription fees too. 

        — hawkinspeter

        That’s why gyms prefer to use a locked-in subscription model – if you’re already paying for the use of a gym, then not using it would be wasting money.

        — Lukas

        I think they bank on a certain number not using it, giving them a free income.

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        • hawkinspeter
          December 22, 2021 at 9:44 am
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          wycombewheeler wrote:

          I think they bank on a certain number not using it, giving them a free income.

          — wycombewheeler

          Definitely. Anyone who knows people (some of my best friends are people) knows that best intentions often go unrealised – especially when they involve getting uncomfortably hot, sweaty and out-of-breath. Similarly I wonder what percentage of bikes sold just gather dust in garages? I hear a lot of home treadmills also serve excellent duty as clothes dryers.

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Pub bike 46 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris I get close-passed by more riders than cars in Richmond Park. Maybe I should ride faster.

in: “The problem is fear”: Cyclists sound warning over bikejackers on illegal bikes intimidating riders in Richmond Park
Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

@perce I'm normally a big fan of your excellent posts perce but I must take issue with this one. The idea that Lord Khan of Tooting would ever, in any circumstances, have been friends with Nigel is surely beyond the bounds of even your fertile imagination?

in: “The problem is fear”: Cyclists sound warning over bikejackers on illegal bikes intimidating riders in Richmond Park
Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

Not to downplay the seriousness of bikejacking, but Mr.Taylor might want to consider that fact that many riders have been put off using the park at weekends due to the aggressive, intimidatory behaviour of members of his own club, who are notorious for riding as if the park is a private training facility just for themselves, and that's a pretty sad state of affairs as well.

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Riggers 2 hours ago

In Wiggle/CR's absence, what are people using nowadays? I've been out of it for a while, but now returned.

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quiff 3 hours ago

I did a multi-day ride many years ago with someone who was a better cyclist than me by every conceivable measure but this one. I remember watching them up ahead on a quiet road trying to teach themselves - snatching brief seconds with their hands off the bars before losing balance and grabbing on again. 'Watch this' I said to the rest of my group, before I accelerated to catch them, then nonchalantly sailed past them uphill riding no hands. Very satisfying. I've been able to ride most of mine hands-free, but had a Specialized Allez that really didn't cooperate. Haven't been brave enough to try it on a Brompton or cargo bike though. And still can't do a wheelie, or any of the other things on Jo's palmares.

in: I cannot wheelie. I cannot ride with no hands. I am s**t at bikes.
Slartibartfast 3 hours ago

@Hamster now that is an exciting development. I do remove/amend signs but reporting them for flyposting is much more satisfying.

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Hamster 4 hours ago

@Slartibartfast If the sign-maker can be caught in the act then the council Environmental Health can get a report for littering/fly-tipping. Hours of endless fun for that person trying to explain away a conviction. Don't report unless you're prepared to go to court though. Or remove the litter and put in the nearest bin with a sticker explaining how littering is a crime.

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kingleo 4 hours ago

What would make driving safer for motorists is if they stopped driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol and driving faster than the speed limit.

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mudfish 4 hours ago

Some good ideas there. One point tho. Whilst I love those Wera Allen keys for steel bolt heads, they can be risky on alloy socket screws. Not ideal, IMO, for Rochshox fork axles as they eat into the alloy and lock into the socket. Play soon results. The hex+ system seems to be based on an inside out adaptation of the Snap On “Flank Drive” spanner or socket - and that’s a great idea, but sadly the design seems to overstress alloy socket head screws. Could it be that the profiled section on the end of the tool doesn’t have enough penetration on a fork axle? Maybe. All I can say is my axles last a lot longer using a regular Allen hex key. (Ideally on a torque wrench I guess). Ooh and ChrisA is right - a “Vernier Caliper” relies an a sliding scale more like a slide tile. Digital is way easier, but battery dependent.

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hawkinspeter 5 hours ago

@Rendel Harris - ginger ale can be alcoholic when it's traditionally brewed. Not nearly as strong as mead, though.

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