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Tour de France Unchained (Netflix)
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End of the road for Tour de France Unchained — Netflix confirms no more seasons; “Yes… and long overdue”: Cyclists support calls for drivers to be “presumed liable” in collisions; Wax your chain…in a rice cooker?! + more on the live blog

Welcome to the Thursday live blog… Dan Alexander is in the hot seat for all your updates, news, reaction, silliness and more
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Feb 13, 2025 09:14
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SUMMARY

  • "Yes... and long overdue": Cyclists support calls for drivers to be "presumed liable" in civil cases if they hit a bike rider or pedestrian
  • Waxing your chain... in a rice cooker?!
  • Shimano crank 'recall' cost £70m in 2024, as bicycle components giant's sales drop again amid "weak" cycling market
  • Sustrans hails "fantastic boost" as £30m allocated for National Cycle Network improvements
  • "If he joins us like in the Tour, he will be a tough opponent. But I don't lose any sleep over it.": Mathieu van der Poel eyes up potential Tadej Pogačar clash at Paris-Roubaix
  • Gran fondue: more chain waxing tips from the kitchen
  • Driver came "flying out of nowhere" through red light and killed boy on bike at crossing, “treating him like a leaf”, as parents criticise "unduly lenient" two-year sentence and call for better enforcement on roads
  • Half of UK police forces catch motorists doing 90mph on 30mph roads, while 90 per cent have clocked people driving at 60mph on them
  • Atlas Mountain Race... on a tandem
  • Council workers embroiled in bitter LTN row offered wellbeing day off after "relentless hostility and anger" from residents opposing decision to "bulldoze through" plans for low traffic neighbourhood
  • French media report suggests Netflix to drop Tour de France documentary
  • Reaction to Netflix ditching Unchained
  • "This will be the final season... we are naturally coming to an end of this cycle": Netflix confirms there will be no Unchained cameras at 2025 Tour
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13 February 2025, 09:14

"Yes... and long overdue": Cyclists support calls for drivers to be "presumed liable" in civil cases if they hit a bike rider or pedestrian

Yesterday we brought you news of a Parliament petition that’s nearing 2,000 signatures and asks the government to introduce presumed liability for civil cases from road traffic collisions. In short, that would mean in the case of a collision the less vulnerable party would be presumed liable unless they can prove otherwise.

So, drivers would be presumed liable for collisions with cyclists, pedestrians or horse riders and, also we should point out, cyclists presumed liable for collisions with pedestrians — not that that has put anyone here off, based on a quick look in the comments.

Female cyclist in London wearing a red coat on a steel road bike
Female cyclist in London wearing a red coat on a steel road bike (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)
Female cyclist in London wearing a red coat on a steel road bike
Female cyclist in London wearing a red coat on a steel road bike (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)

> Petition asks government for drivers to be “presumed liable” for cyclist collisions

Here are some of the replies we got on social media where we asked if it was a good idea:

“Yes. And *LONG* overdue.”

“If it helps to make cycling on the roads safer I’m all for it. Hopefully make drivers more aware that there are others on the road who are vulnerable.”

“Yes. With my cycle hat on. Yes! As someone who tries to always be a good driver, also yes!”

And some more from the road.cc comments: 

Spangly Shiny: “The recent changes to the wording in the Highway Code, specifically outlining the Hierarchy of road users was an excellent first step. Now it requires the obvious follow-up legislation to enforce that hierarchy so that four-wheel Frannie gets to understand his/her place in the order of things trafficky. This from someone who drives around 20-fold as much as I ride.”

chrisonabike: “I mean, it’s a detail of a detail (if you need this, the bad thing has already happened, AND it doesn’t help e.g. stop the driver driving – it’s nothing to do with the criminal side) … but it’s something in the right direction.”

John G: “Petition signed, letter also emailed to my MP.”

C3a: “I agree. Off to sign.”

Others rightly pointed out the bit included in the original article explaining how presumed liability is already a thing across Europe, and works effectively. The vast majority of negative replies on a certain social media site either failed to grasp this is in civil proceedings, not criminal; and that, yes, almost all cyclists are absolutely fine (and aware it also means) bicycle riders being presumed liable for collisions with pedestrians. 

Commuter cyclists in London stopped at light with van in background
Commuter cyclists in London stopped at light with van in background (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)
Commuter cyclists in London stopped at light with van in background
Commuter cyclists in London stopped at light with van in background (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)

Any more thoughts on presumed liability? We might be preaching to the choir here, but would you like to see it implemented in the UK?

The petition will run until 18 May and if it reaches 10,000 signatures it will receive a response from the government. If it receives 100,000 signatures it will be considered for a debate in Parliament.

13 February 2025, 09:14

Waxing your chain... in a rice cooker?!

Meanwhile on Facebook…

Chain waxing in a rice cooker (Bandol Jaramillo/Facebook)
Chain waxing in a rice cooker (Image Credit: Bandol Jaramillo/Facebook)
Chain waxing in a rice cooker (Bandol Jaramillo/Facebook)
Chain waxing in a rice cooker (Image Credit: Bandol Jaramillo/Facebook)

Bandol Jaramillo shared this snap with the caption: “Waxing with old rice cooker works just fine.”

It gave me great pleasure reading the exchange that followed…

Cyclist 2: “Rice cookers heat too fast and too far. Slow cooker is what you want.”

Bandol: “Not if you just leave it on warm setting.”

Cyclist 2: “They still heat way too fast and damage the paraffin molecules before switching to warm.”

Bandol: “I don’t switch on the cook setting, just basically plugging it and it will take about 10 to 15 minutes to fully melt. I can’t see how that’s fast.”

Cyclist 3: “My rice cooker doesn’t have a low or high.”

Cyclist 2: “10-15 minutes is way too fast to melt the wax. Do you have a multi-cooker like an Instant Pot, or an actual rice cooker?”

Bandol: “Just a normal rice cooker. If you don’t flick the cook botton it will just stay on keep warm setting.”

Cyclist 2: “Gotcha. I would avoid a rice cooker but to each his own. It takes about an hour to melt in a slow cooker. The rice cooker is going to ruin the wax on a molecular level.”

That went on and on for a fair while longer, but was great fun to witness.

For a guide to more conventional chain waxing, check this out…

> Your complete guide to waxing your chain: how to save watts and keep your chain clean for longer

13 February 2025, 09:14

Shimano crank 'recall' cost £70m in 2024, as bicycle components giant's sales drop again amid "weak" cycling market

Broken Shimano cranks - 1
Broken Shimano cranks - 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Broken Shimano cranks - 1
Broken Shimano cranks – 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Shimano crank ‘recall’ cost £70m in 2024, as bicycle components giant’s sales drop again amid “weak” cycling market

13 February 2025, 09:14

Sustrans hails "fantastic boost" as £30m allocated for National Cycle Network improvements

komoot coffee ride Mike Stead NCN77 beside the Tay
komoot coffee ride Mike Stead NCN77 beside the Tay (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
komoot coffee ride Mike Stead NCN77 beside the Tay
komoot coffee ride Mike Stead NCN77 beside the Tay (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

You might have seen all sorts of headlines across the media yesterday, from the BBC doing a regional story for every single part of the country, to GB News claiming “Drivers will be ‘persuaded to leave the car at home’ with new £291million boost for cycling and walking”. It’s the outlining of funding for active travel in England (excluding London) by Active Travel England. It’s not new funding, but did outline where the money will be going.

£222.5 million is to go to local authorities for the development and delivery of local walking, wheeling and cycling schemes, alongside community engagement and training. This is for both 24/25 and 25/26, so worth considering that’s not an annual budget.

Bikeability and Sustrans received £30m each for their respective work providing training and maintaining the National Cycle Network. Xavier Brice, CEO at Sustrans, told us: “This funding is a fantastic boost to our work to make the 13,000 miles of routes safer and more accessible for local journeys, whether by foot, cycle, wheelchair or mobility scooter.  

“We can now step-up our work with local communities, many partners and governments across the UK, to make it easier for everyone to walk, wheel or cycle for more journeys, growing local economies, providing easy and healthy access to nature and helping people live well for longer.”

13 February 2025, 09:14

"If he joins us like in the Tour, he will be a tough opponent. But I don't lose any sleep over it.": Mathieu van der Poel eyes up potential Tadej Pogačar clash at Paris-Roubaix

Matthieu van der Poel at Paris Roubaix 2024 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Matthieu van der Poel at Paris Roubaix 2024 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Those images of Tadej Pogačar riding the infamous Arenberg Forest during a Paris-Roubaix-themed training ride have got us all more than a little bit excited about what could be if the world champion adds the Hell of the North to his programme for 2025. Last year, Mathieu van der Poel raised his arms in victory in the rainbow jersey, could Pogačar repeat that feat in a few months’ time?

Tadej Pogačar, Arenberg training ride, 2025
Tadej Pogačar, Arenberg training ride, 2025 (Image Credit: Tim Wellens/Instagram)
Tadej Pogačar, Arenberg training ride, 2025
Tadej Pogačar, Arenberg training ride, 2025 (Image Credit: Tim Wellens/Instagram)

Well, speaking to Sporza, Van der Poel had his say on the prospect of a Pog clash on the cobbles…

“I don’t know what his plans are for Roubaix,” the Dutchman said. “If he joins us like in the Tour, he will be a tough opponent. But I don’t lose any sleep over it. The Tour has already shown that you have to be 110 per cent to beat him. I had good legs, but he still dropped me on the Oude Kwaremont. But the more good riders at the start, the better, because then the race will fall into place.”

Van der Poel also confirmed he’ll be skipping the road World Championships this year and targeting the mountain bike race instead, the 5,000m+ of climbing in Rwanda likely to see Pogačar a heavy favourite to defend his title in 2025. But first, San Remo, Flanders, Roubaix… you know you want to, Tadej…

13 February 2025, 09:14

Gran fondue: more chain waxing tips from the kitchen

We’re enjoying the comments about waxing your chain in a rice cooker. Sredlums reports their waxing is done in an “old electric fondue pan” and works just fine.

“Melt the wax, turn the temperature down a notch, put in the chain, let it sit for a minute or so, stir it a bit, take it out and turn off the heat. That’s it.”

brooksby: “Mmmm, fondue…  I can’t get out of my head this image of your wax bubbling away while you dip components into it on a fork…”

It’s got to almost be lunchtime now…

13 February 2025, 09:14

Driver came "flying out of nowhere" through red light and killed boy on bike at crossing, “treating him like a leaf”, as parents criticise "unduly lenient" two-year sentence and call for better enforcement on roads

André Castro Ladeiro and Cork Road, Carrigaline, Co. Cork (Google Maps)
André Castro Ladeiro and Cork Road, Carrigaline, Co (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
André Castro Ladeiro and Cork Road, Carrigaline, Co. Cork (Google Maps)
André Castro Ladeiro and Cork Road, Carrigaline, Co (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Driver came “flying out of nowhere” through red light and killed boy on bike at crossing, “treating him like a leaf”, as parents criticise “unduly lenient” two-year sentence and call for better enforcement on roads

13 February 2025, 09:14

Half of UK police forces catch motorists doing 90mph on 30mph roads, while 90 per cent have clocked people driving at 60mph on them

30mph (CC BY-SA 2.0/Jaggery on Geograph)
Jaggery on Geograph) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
30mph (CC BY-SA 2.0/Jaggery on Geograph)
Jaggery on Geograph) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The RAC submitted Freedom of Information requests to 45 police forces across the UK to collate data from January 2023 to the end of August 2024. In total, 48 per cent of forces had clocked motorists driving at speeds in excess of 90mph on 30mph roads. For motorists caught driving in excess of 60mph on 30mph roads the figure was 90 per cent of police forces.

The concerning stats were reported by the BBC who noted the highest recorded speed on 30mph roads was 122mph in South Yorkshire. For 20mph roads, the top speed was logged by North Wales Police at 88mph.

The 10 highest speeds clocked on 30mph roads were:

South Yorkshire Police: 122mph

Sussex Police: 113mph

Greater Manchester Police: 112mph

West Yorkshire Police: 112mph

West Mercia Police: 106mph

Lancashire Constabulary: 104mph

Nottinghamshire Police: 103mph

Bedfordshire Police: 103mph

West Midlands Police: 100mph

Police Service of Northern Ireland: 100mph

RAC road safety spokesperson Rod Dennis said: “Although this data is a snapshot, it shines a light on the incredibly dangerous actions of a few, that are putting law-abiding road users at serious risk. Thankfully, the police were on hand to catch these drivers.”

Chief Constable Jo Shiner, the National Police Chiefs’ Council lead for roads policing, added: “We know that some incidents of going over the speed limit can be genuine mistakes or errors, but the speeds cited here are clearly drivers taking deliberate decisions to travel at excessive speeds, putting everyone at risk.”

According to Department for Transport figures, speed was the biggest factor in 888 fatalities on UK roads in 2023, and the biggest factor in more than 39,000 collisions overall.

13 February 2025, 09:14

Atlas Mountain Race... on a tandem

A bit more from the Atlas Mountain Race now, following on from Tuesday’s blog.

Sofiane Sehili DIY repair job on rear mech during 2025 Atlas Mountain Race (Instagram)
Sofiane Sehili DIY repair job on rear mech during 2025 Atlas Mountain Race (Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Sofiane Sehili DIY repair job on rear mech during 2025 Atlas Mountain Race (Instagram)
Sofiane Sehili DIY repair job on rear mech during 2025 Atlas Mountain Race (Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “It would be mental to do single speed on that course!” Ultra-distance cyclist opts for cheap bike shop repair after trashing rear mech during gruelling off-road mountain race – and is forced to ride with one gear to the finish

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13 February 2025, 09:14

Council workers embroiled in bitter LTN row offered wellbeing day off after "relentless hostility and anger" from residents opposing decision to "bulldoze through" plans for low traffic neighbourhood

Cyclist next to an LTN planter, Hackney, London
Cyclist next to an LTN planter (Image Credit: Adwitiya Pal)
Cyclist next to an LTN planter, Hackney, London
Cyclist next to an LTN planter (Image Credit: Adwitiya Pal)

> Council workers embroiled in bitter LTN row offered wellbeing day off after “relentless hostility and anger” from residents opposing decision to “bulldoze through” plans for low traffic neighbourhood

13 February 2025, 09:14

French media report suggests Netflix to drop Tour de France documentary

Tour de France: Unchained (Netflix)
Tour de France: Unchained (Netflix) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France: Unchained (Netflix)
Tour de France: Unchained (Netflix) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

French newspaper Le Parisien has reported that this summer’s third season of Tour de France: Unchained, the behind-the-scenes Netflix documentary, may be its last. The documentary follows numerous riders and teams’ journey to and through the race, and it is launched on the streaming platform in the week ahead of the next year’s edition. 

However, sources have told Le Parisien that Netflix no longer wants to film at the race and, despite nothing being official, the riders, organisers and teams “have started to get used to the idea that Netflix’s cameras will no longer be there in June”.

One source from a French team told the newspaper: “Usually, at the end of January, we are already contacted by Netflix for filming in the spring with some of our riders. This time, we haven’t had a single phone call. It seems that the message is clear.”

Another source added: “Frankly, it’s complicated for Netflix to renew itself every year. We’re still in a repetitive sport: bus, race, bus, hotel, sleep and repeat the next day. And with Pogačar crushing everything, the suspense seems complicated to maintain.”

Le Parisien claims the second season’s viewing figures were judged “average”, quite good abroad but “disappointing” in France, giving the streaming giant a business decision considering the enormous production costs. It isn’t all doom and gloom however, the newspaper suggesting that Netflix may film behind-the-scenes at the women’s Tour instead.

We’ve contacted Netflix for comment. Season three is set to air ahead of this year’s race, the documentary undoubtedly going to be dominated by Pogačar’s phenomenal year, as well as hopefully much of Binian Girmay and Mark Cavendish’s history making.

13 February 2025, 09:14

Reaction to Netflix ditching Unchained

Some of your thoughts on the Netflix story:

PRSboy: “I thought the TDF Unchained was very well done actually.  A lot more interesting frankly than much of the actual race. I fear for pro cycling generally when even the TDF moves to expensive streaming platforms. Sponsors will get even less ROI and funding will dry up.”

Ioan Said: “A natural end? A repetitive sport? Drive to Survive has managed seven seasons, and F1 is even more repetitive — same tracks, same format, same teams every year. At least the Tour de France changes its route annually, offering fresh narratives. It feels more like some teams and riders made it harder work than Netflix could be bothered with for the return. If they weren’t seeing enough return on investment, they were never going to stick around — but maybe they also underestimated how much effort it takes to tell cycling’s story to a wider audience.”

nick_cycling789: “They did screw up the best Tour de France we have ever seen with stupid f*****g doping aligations. They were separated by 30 seconds it was one of the best sporting events in history and they talked about f****** doping.”

Tour de France Unchained trailer (Netflix)
Tour de France Unchained trailer (Netflix) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France Unchained trailer (Netflix)
Tour de France Unchained trailer (Netflix) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

13 February 2025, 09:14

"This will be the final season... we are naturally coming to an end of this cycle": Netflix confirms there will be no Unchained cameras at 2025 Tour

Tour de France Unchained (Netflix)
Tour de France Unchained (Netflix) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tour de France Unchained (Netflix)
Tour de France Unchained (Netflix) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Netflix France has now confirmed to us that season three (due to air before this year’s Tour) will be the final Unchained season. In a statement provided to us this lunchtime, Netflix said:

This will be the final season of the series: after three seasons, we are naturally coming to an end of this cycle. We’re very proud of the work we’ve done and of the public response to the documentary series, which has allowed us to offer a fresh take on this legendary competition. Netflix France will continue to explore new territories in the world of sport.

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Dan Alexander
Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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29 thoughts on “End of the road for Tour de France Unchained — Netflix confirms no more seasons; “Yes… and long overdue”: Cyclists support calls for drivers to be “presumed liable” in collisions; Wax your chain…in a rice cooker?! + more on the live blog”

  1. Sredlums
    February 13, 2025 at 9:59 am
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    “ruin the wax on a molecular

    “ruin the wax on a molecular level”

    Sigh. The wax will melt, and solidify again afterwards. That’s all there is to it.
    I do my hot waxing in an old electric fondue pan, works just fine.
    Melt the wax, turn the temperature down a notch, put in the chain, let it sit for a minute or so, stir it a bit, take it out and turn off the heat. That’s it.

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    • brooksby
      February 13, 2025 at 10:59 am
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      Sredlums wrote:

      “ruin the wax on a molecular level”

      Sigh. The wax will melt, and solidify again afterwards. That’s all there is to it.
      I do my hot waxing in an old electric fondue pan, works just fine.
      Melt the wax, turn the temperature down a notch, put in the chain, let it sit for a minute or so, stir it a bit, take it out and turn off the heat. That’s it.

      — Sredlums

       Mmmm, fondue…  I can’t get out of my head this image of your wax bubbling away while you dip components into it on a fork… 

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      • Sredlums
        February 14, 2025 at 8:46 am
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        Hahaha, that would be my

        Hahaha, that would be my kinda party!

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    • SimoninSpalding
      February 13, 2025 at 11:04 am
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      Indeed, best not to tell them

      Indeed, best not to tell them about the temperatures and pressures involved in refining crude oil to produce the wax…

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    • Tom_77
      February 13, 2025 at 11:23 am
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      Sredlums wrote:

      “ruin the wax on a molecular level”

      — Sredlums

      When I wax my chain I always get the electron microscope out and examine the wax molecules individually, just to be sure.

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      • wtjs
        February 13, 2025 at 11:28 am
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        No, it’s an atomic force

        No, it’s an atomic force microscope you need

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  2. Mr Anderson
    February 13, 2025 at 10:52 am
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    Strict Liability Law – 20
    Strict Liability Law – 20 years ago I did not support this, because there are careless/negligent/incompetent cyclists too.

    Today there is no reason not to implement this. The abundance of Dashcam offerings and at low cost, mean every driver now has the opportunity to provide evidence they were not at fault.

    The only question I have, will Strict Liability be applied in the incidents of Cyclist v Pedestrian collisions?

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    • GMBasix
      February 13, 2025 at 11:12 am
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      Mr Anderson wrote:

      20 years ago I did not support this, because there are careless/negligent/incompetent cyclists too.

      — Mr Anderson

      There are, and see the response to your question below. However, note that in cyclists v pedestrians, the cyclist has not brought 2 tonnes to the scene of the crash at up to 70mph (or perhaps even more). Even where the more vulnerable party may be at fault – either partly or wholly – for the cause of the collision, they are not the cause of the scale of the damage or injury caused.

      It is entirely reasonable to presume that the person who brings the most kinetic energy with them carries greater responsibility for anticipating the presence and actions of others around them.

      The only question I have, will Strict Liability be applied in the incidents of Cyclist v Pedestrian collisions?

      — Mr Anderson

      According to the wording of the petition, yes.

      Today there is no reason not to implement this.

      — Mr Anderson

      Exactly

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    • chrisonabike
      February 13, 2025 at 11:56 am
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      Just as long as everyone

      Just as long as everyone remembers a) this has no bearing on criminal court matters, only civil ones *. b) This is about recompense after the fact and is not likely to do much if anything for “safety” [1] [2] [3] (again – civil compensation).

      It’s still a good idea though!  e.g. if people survive it should make it a bit easier to get help to pay for their care.  Of course this relies on not being in Scotland, where – if pushed – the police might assist by asking the driver if they remembered this happening, and going away when the driver said “no”.

      * In theory I guess it could but that is highly unlikely to happen.  It would be a radical innovation; I’m not aware of that being the case anywhere else.

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  3. brooksby
    February 13, 2025 at 10:57 am
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    Quote:

    Female cyclist in London casual winter clothing on hybrid bike – copyright Simon MacMichael

    You keep using this photo.  Am I the only person who looks at it and thinks, “She’s wearing a thick coat and fur boots, but left her legs uncovered?  She must be freezing!” ?

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    • HarrogateSpa
      February 13, 2025 at 11:02 am
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      Also, I’m not sure of the

      Also, I’m not sure of the ethics of photographing young women cycling without their knowledge/permission.

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      • quiff
        February 13, 2025 at 2:59 pm
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        Not a woman, and I love this

        Not a woman, and I love this site – but I wouldn’t particularly want to be used in a picture on it in perpetuity. However, there’s generally no restriction on taking photos in public.  

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      • Rendel Harris
        February 13, 2025 at 3:22 pm
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        HarrogateSpa wrote:

        Also, I’m not sure of the ethics of photographing young women cycling without their knowledge/permission.

        — HarrogateSpa

        We don’t actually know the pictures were taken without their permission, they may be friends of Simon’s (the photographer) who are quite happy for their images to be used for all we know.

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      • Oldfatgit
        February 14, 2025 at 7:01 am
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        Not sure why the photo being
        Not sure why the photo being of a woman should raise an ‘ethics’ question. You haven’t raised this question before about men being in photos that they may not consented to … so why are you raising this about a woman?

        The person is in a Public place, with no reasonable expectation of privacy.
        Images taken for personal, editorial, artistic, and journalistic purposes in Public do not need the consent of the people in the images.

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        • wtjs
          February 14, 2025 at 9:27 am
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          The person is in a Public

          The person is in a Public place, with no reasonable expectation of privacy

          Perhaps HarrogateSpa is part of police BlackOps Division, with the aim of banning cyclists (and drivers!) with cameras because of the reasonable expectation that the images may include women and children. Police dreaming of Paradise?

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    • Rendel Harris
      February 13, 2025 at 3:22 pm
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      I’m more concerned about the

      I’m more concerned about the lady in the second, also frequently-used, photograph with her handbag apparently dangling from the bars and just asking to get caught in the brakes or spokes.

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    • andystow
      February 13, 2025 at 5:33 pm
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      brooksby wrote:

      Female cyclist in London casual winter clothing on hybrid bike – copyright Simon MacMichael

      — brooksby

      You keep using this photo.  Am I the only person who looks at it and thinks, “She’s wearing a thick coat and fur boots, but left her legs uncovered?  She must be freezing!” ?

      I regularly ride at about -10 °C wearing thinner trousers than jeans. It’s not a problem if you’re putting out any effort.

      I’d be burning up in that puffy coat, though.

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  4. the little onion
    February 13, 2025 at 11:16 am
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    Sustrans being awareded £30

    Sustrans being awareded £30 million isn’t the god news it might seem, given their propensity to declare any old rubbish as part of the Notional Cycling Network. Including a sandy beach accessible only at low tide.

    I hope that any cycling routes that are created are usable in all weathers by all kinds of cyclist on all kinds of bikes, and that they are direct routes between places people want to go.

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    • chrisonabike
      February 13, 2025 at 12:04 pm
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      Apparently they’re better now

      Apparently they’re better now…

      Like the government and authorities they’re trying to “align” with the pressure to avoid mentioning the “C” word – or indeed doing things which particularly align with the needs of cyclists – appears strong.  So it’s “Active Travel” – and I’m surprised it’s not been renamed the “walking, wheeling and (shh) cycling network”.  It’s certainly pushed as “recreational” which seems to be what we’ve ended up with in many places.

      That’s not taking away from the incredible efforts of volunteers who essentially set up a parallel “department for transport” and built / bought / negotiated a country-wide collection of infra (read more in Laura Laker’s book).

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      • ktache
        February 13, 2025 at 12:15 pm
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        I have ridden bits of their

        I have ridden bits of their routes on my commutes for many years, mainly the 5, Birmingham and Reading. Longer bits for recreation. They get my money every month.

        As with all commuting and travel routes, you try, and if it’s not right you seek alternatives. And hope that you end up with the best compromise.

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        • chrisonabike
          February 13, 2025 at 12:45 pm
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          Oh, I use them all the time –

          Oh, I use them all the time – indeed part of the reason I’m living where I am is it’s basically right by an off-road “almost-network”.  And almost always “good enough”; if … you don’t mind dog walkers, unhappy pedestrians, the glass, football and rugby crowds on foot.  And the occasional thugs, motorbikes – oh and sexual predators…

          If they hadn’t built some parts (volunteer / charity effort!  Often it seems in spite of LA / government) which “somehow work” (for this lifetime cycler), I wouldn’t bemoan the bits which really look like “national sign-off network” or “national sign network”.

          There’s just enough – in some places – so you do start wondering “hey – why do we need to spend time with maps / talking to people to find usable alternatives, or seeking an acceptable compromise?  I don’t do that when I’m driving – and rarely when walking in urban areas…”

          Especially when you realise other places have an urban network (just like for pedestrians / drivers) AND “intercity routes” AND also a country-wide “recreational network” like this [1] [2], AND even greener or more “recreational trails” like this [3] [4] [5]…

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          • the little onion
            February 13, 2025 at 12:49 pm
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            My point is the

            My point is the counterfactual – what would we have got if Sustrans weren’t so eager to sign off any kind of rubbish? The argument of their defenders is that we wouldn’t have anything. The counterpoint would be that there might be more pressure on government at all levels to build something that actually  works. 

            It’s like painted cycle lanes on road – we know from proper scientific studies that they actually increase danger to cyclists, so that they are worse than nothing. And indeed, if the budget/political will had been instead applied to creating proper segregated facilities, then we would end up with a proper cycling network! 

            Accepting low standards just allows decision-makers to claim they are doing something, whilst not actually delivering anything.

          • chrisonabike
            February 13, 2025 at 1:20 pm
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            the little onion wrote:

            My point is the counterfactual – what would we have got if Sustrans weren’t so eager to sign off any kind of rubbish? The argument of their defenders is that we wouldn’t have anything. The counterpoint would be that there might be more pressure on government at all levels to build something that actually  works. 

            — the little onion

            Well – like most counterfactuals we’ll never know.  But I guess you could estimate this by looking at how much “sufficiently good” infra the government and councils built before.  I’d say that would amount to … not much.

            It’s not quite “nothing” because the UK does seem to go round in cycles.  So every decade or so (or is it quarter century?) someone sits up and says “this cycling thing?  It seems to have a lot of benefits we’d really like, and it’s cheap – do you thing it could … work?”  And stuff gets funded, trials and studies are done… but because “trial” and “in addition to driving, not instead of some driven trips” modal share for cycling only increases to a percent or so, not e.g. 5 – 10% or more.  And then events come along and/or the politicians have been there for a bit and become unpopular.  And it all gets ditched.

            It’s like painted cycle lanes on road – we know from proper scientific studies that they actually increase danger to cyclists, so that they are worse than nothing. And indeed, if the budget/political will had been instead applied to creating proper segregated facilities, then we would end up with a proper cycling network! 

            — the little onion

            That’s a massive “if” there… where would this political will have come from and how (and if it could have … why didn’t it)?

            Accepting low standards just allows decision-makers to claim they are doing something, whilst not actually delivering anything.

            — the little onion

            Completely agree … but the problem with cycling is that the people who need to approve / demand “good enough” * are not the cyclists of today **.  Which is a problem, because a) they don’t know what good cycling facilities are b) they likely don’t understand how convenient and pleasant it could be c) many don’t care about cycling and indeed won’t be “enthusiasts” even if they become part of “mass cycling” and do cycle themselves d) they have lives they’ve already built around driving / walking and providing for cycling may mean some change for them.

            I have also been scathing about Sustrans back in the past.  Having seen just how little support for “doing it at all” never mind “doing it right” there is though I am less certain how it could have been different.  (Reading the history in Laura Laker’s book was interesting also).  Of course, if the government – or maybe even one council or one city/town – had decided to go in a different direction and been able to change quickly enough AND weather the criticism over time … [1] [2]

            * e.g. a safe and convenient cycling network of continuous cycle routes, separated from motor traffic where needed (by distance it’s more about “slowing down and reducing motor traffic volumes” and decreasing “permeability” for it), with good social safety and secure parking, which facilitates social cycling e.g. is wide enough for side-by-side.

            ** To a first approximation we’re outliers; the fit and the brave, “enthusiasts”, sportspeople … and/or have less social status e.g. the really poor, those who can’t drive – including banned drivers, the young, those with certain disabilities …

          • wtjs
            February 13, 2025 at 4:10 pm
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            Accepting low standards just

            Accepting low standards just allows decision-makers to claim they are doing something, whilst not actually delivering anything

            This is a good point. I am frequently guilty of this make-do mentality- I was quite happy with the state of our climbing club cottage in Coniston and would have just left it as it was. ‘Dave’ pushed renovation through during the lockdowns in 2020 and a lot of work has been done since then, and it’s a lot better. Similarly, Tom_77s route below looks OK to me- it’s what I expect, and why I’m pretty much always on my gravel bike these days. However, I think we would nearly all agree that ‘chopper’ cycle infra with paint protection is what onion is really getting at and I completely agree, although our biggest problem is the attitude of the police (NMotD 921 brings out an admission of the ‘get yourself KSI’d and we’ll see what we can do) not the infra.

    • Tom_77
      February 13, 2025 at 2:45 pm
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      National Cycle Route 2, not

      National Cycle Route 2, not the best surface, glad I was on my gravel bike.

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  5. PRSboy
    February 13, 2025 at 11:57 am
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    I thought the TDF Unchained

    I thought the TDF Unchained was very well done actually.  A lot more interesting frankly than much of the actual race.

    I fear for pro-cycling generally when even the TDF moves to expensive streaming platforms.  Sponsors will get even less ROI and funding will dry up.

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  6. mitsky
    February 13, 2025 at 4:10 pm
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    Buckingham Palace crash man

    Buckingham Palace crash man ‘lucky he wasn’t shot’

    “In mitigation, Aamina Khalid said her client had had a “psychotic episode” on the day of the crash, suffering a relapse of his bipolar disorder, and was “not able to understand what his actions were” as a result.”

    So someone with a known medical condition that could lead to serious injury/death for others is allowed to keep his driver’s licence?

    Driving is a priviledge, not a right.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdl65dzjd8o

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    • espressodan
      February 13, 2025 at 7:54 pm
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      Lawyers for people who murder
      Lawyers for people who murder cyclists don’t offer defences, they over flimsy excuses which courts and juries are happy to accept because everybody drives do poorly that “it could have happened to anybody”. It’s always the driver that it “happened to”, not the dead cyclist, who’s generally reported as some sort of inanimate object.

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  7. mdavidford
    February 13, 2025 at 4:10 pm
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    RAC road safety spokesperson

    Although this data is a snapshot, it shines a light on the incredibly dangerous actions of a few, that are putting conveniently distracts from the the vast numbers of other supposedly ‘law-abiding‘ drivers who, while not going quite this fast, are still routinely exceeding speed limits and putting road users at serious risk.

    — RAC road safety spokesperson Rod Dennis

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the infamous grouse 57 minutes ago

hopefully they won't have moving cyclist avatars on the live map, and instead just give a proximity-based audio notification about cyclists ahead ... otherwise, there's bound to be some idiot who will go 'hunting' when they see a bike icon on the move.

in: “A safer riding environment”: Garmin and Waze team up to alert drivers to nearby cyclists in real time
slc 1 hour ago

@Rendel Harris Be optimistic. I am sure we will see just as many ' driver recklessly continued along the B4516 despite being warned that cyclists had been there in the fairly recent past' and 'driver failed to make use of product alleged to improve safety' statements.

in: “A safer riding environment”: Garmin and Waze team up to alert drivers to nearby cyclists in real time
quiff 2 hours ago

@eburtthebike "I fail to see what the speed of the vehicle being overtaken has to do with the overtaking vehicle passing too closely." The HWC guidance is at least 1.5m when overtaking at speeds up to 30mph, and more if faster, so e.g. evidence that you were travelling at 30mph (and so being overtaken at more than 30) may be relevant to the passing distance. Of course, that still leaves them with the professed evidential difficulty of actually measuring said distance.

in: Close passes on cyclists “require exceptional circumstances” for drivers to be punished, police force admits
Aluminium can 2 hours ago

I guess the problem is everyone says they want a simple steel / mechanical bike but then when the wallet leavres the pocket they buy a carbon / electronic one. Entry level buyers are all getting junk e-bikes. Radavist hipsters want 1980s lugged bikes.

in: Bristol bike brand Temple Cycles closes, four years after crowdfunding £1.35 million
kil0ran 3 hours ago

@open_roads I was looking for a flat-bar performance hybrid bike recently. I know they're inherently cheaper than drop bar bikes but the level of kit and integration available on non-electric versions is insane for the price. I ended up buying an equipped Trek FX Sport Equipped for £720 brand new. Dynamo lights, rack, full mudguards, Tiagra/Deore level shifters and brakes. Cube, Merida, Orbea, and Giant were similarly good value; it was just unfortunate that the Orbea I wanted wasn't in stock as I'd prefer to have given my money to a Basque co-operative rather than a US megacorp. That's a very difficult market for a low volume regional supplier to operate in. I would likely have bought a Temple had they been available to order but I suspect I'm a bit of a niche customer having had a Fairlight previously.

in: Bristol bike brand Temple Cycles closes, four years after crowdfunding £1.35 million
open_roads 3 hours ago

@Rome73 It doesn't seem to have held back Atherton who seem to be doing a pretty good volume of export orders. So perhaps although the Temple Cycles bikes were great, they just weren't highly differentiated enough - the market for classically styled bikes is pretty saturated in Europe and the urban premium market has rapidly shifted to electric bikes. The wider bike retail trends are likely to have played a role too. The likes of Dorel and Pon are shedding hundreds of thousands of bikes in different brands from their EU inventories and at massive discounts - the overall market for selling full price bikes is incredibly tough. If the big players can't read the market correctly, the little players face a huge challenge. Given much of the enormous fundraiser appears to have been spent my guess would be that Temple spent too much on fixed costs (2 x shops, 1 x Factory) and that margin / cashflow / liquidity was the core problem. TLDR Really sorry to see Temple Cycles go - their bikes looked great. But they have done well to plough through the fundraiser cash in such a short time. Cash is king.

in: Bristol bike brand Temple Cycles closes, four years after crowdfunding £1.35 million
mitsky 3 hours ago

@samuri I was going to say the same. 1) Drivers need to use their eyes. There is a reason the practical driving test involves an eye-sight test. 2) I am imagining that (as You've rightly said: everyone would need to use it to make it work) we will have to put a chip in every human at birth which is internet and GPS connected... I'm sure Lone Skum is working on it right now. And Bill Gates was trialling this with Covid vaccines. #sarcasm

in: “A safer riding environment”: Garmin and Waze team up to alert drivers to nearby cyclists in real time
sclarke3@talktalk.net 3 hours ago

So massive investment for a small company and still didn't make any profit. Pity the workers who are losing their jobs and suppliers that may not get paid. But, the directors are allowed to start a new limited company

in: Bristol bike brand Temple Cycles closes, four years after crowdfunding £1.35 million
sclarke3@talktalk.net 3 hours ago

So massive investment for a small company and still didn't make any profit. Pity the workers who are losing their jobs and suppliers that may not get paid. But, the directors are allowed to start a new limited company and still pay themselves....

in: Bristol bike brand Temple Cycles closes, four years after crowdfunding £1.35 million
fwhite181 4 hours ago

It's always a shame to see a local company go under especially given that Brexit presumably kicked all their EU sales. But they also never seemed like great value for money. As far as I could tell they were in the same vein as Genesis: making old-school frames out of standard steel tube-sets, fitting some quite nice finishing kit and then charging premium prices for them. They looked like nice bikes when I've seen them out on the road, but the designs don't look like anything special. When you compare to companies like Fairlight who are using custom tubesets, offer so many sizes that they're near-custom fit, and then let you spec pretty much every component for the same money, the value for money for a Temple just wasn't there.

in: Bristol bike brand Temple Cycles closes, four years after crowdfunding £1.35 million

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