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Cycling in the heat: Do slower speeds result in more aggressive overtakes?; “This one is for my brother”: Hugo the victor; Police boss caught speeding 5 times in 12 weeks; Cyclists and pedestrians; ‘Evil Cycle Lobby’ strikes again + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Ryan Mallon is back, fresh from visiting Leith Walk’s infamous zig-zag cycle path, with your daily dose of the live blog
  • by Ryan Mallon
Tue, Jul 19, 2022 08:48
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SUMMARY

  • The ‘Evil Cycle Lobby’ strikes again
  • Tour de France enters its final act: The Pyrenees beckon… and possible ambushes, and echelons…
  • AG2R Citroën confirms Cherel and Paret-Peintre out of Tour with Covid
  • Tour de France GC, Cann Table style
  • Police and crime commissioner broke speed limit five times in 12 weeks – after pledging to crack down on speeding
  • Mountain bikers, look away now…
  • Is Mark Cavendish’s Tour stage winning bike for sale on eBay?
  • Sick Soler suffers in the sun
  • Warnock’s warm weather cycling tips
  • It’s happening… Pogačar attacks on penultimate climb
  • Extreme journalistic protocol enforced
  • “This one is for my brother”: Emotional Hugo the victor, as Pogačar attacks on first day in the Pyrenees
  • Should cyclists leave the same passing distance for pedestrians as they expect from motorists?
  • ‘Marc Soler, you’re my hero’
  • Close passes: the result of slow cycling speeds or “sleep-deprived, over-heated, agitated and angry” drivers?
  • Cycling in the heat: Do slower speeds result in more aggressive overtakes?
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19 July 2022, 08:48

The ‘Evil Cycle Lobby’ strikes again

This junction in Chiswick has now been remodelled and it opened 10 days ago with fully protected dedicated two way cycling on #Cycleway9. It’s not the Evil Cycle Lobby that makes cycle lanes happen. It’s the psychopathic drivers like the Mr Kumars who make them happen. https://t.co/h4Q0UpQrER

— Paul Campbell (@PauloCampbell) July 18, 2022

19 July 2022, 08:48

Tour de France enters its final act: The Pyrenees beckon… and possible ambushes, and echelons…

2022 TdF Stage 16 profile
2022 TdF Stage 16 profile (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2022 TdF Stage 16 profile
2022 TdF Stage 16 profile (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

With the third rest day of the 2022 Tour de France in the bag – with enough images of pro cyclists frolicking in swimming pools and rivers to last a lifetime – the peloton sets out from Carcassonne this morning with the Pyrenees, the fifth and final mountain range of this year’s race, on the horizon.

While Wednesday and Thursday’s summit finishes on Peyragudes and Hautacam dominated the pre-Tour discussion, today’s stage to Foix, featuring the Cat One Port de Lers and Mur de Péguère (the scene of a tack-infested sabotage attempt at the 2012 race), provides ample scope for any GC favourites looking to take part in an ambush of their own.

With Jumbo-Visma severely depleted after a disastrous pre-rest day stage to Carcassonne, which saw Primož Roglič fail to start, Steven Kruijswijk crash out with a suspected broken collarbone, and Tiesj Benoot and yellow jersey Jonas Vingegaard also hit the deck, defending champion Tadej Pogačar may look to immediately claw back some of his 2.22 deficit to the confident Dane before the race’s final two mountain show pieces.

The Slovenian has vowed to attack at every opportunity to dislodge Vingegaard – so why not on the steep slopes of the Péguère?

Geraint Thomas at 2022 Tour de France (Copyright A.S.O., Charly Lopez)
Geraint Thomas at 2022 Tour de France (Copyright A.S.O (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Geraint Thomas at 2022 Tour de France (Copyright A.S.O., Charly Lopez)
Geraint Thomas at 2022 Tour de France (Copyright A.S.O (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Perhaps the Ineos Grenadiers, still boasting three riders in the top ten, will join forces with UAE Team Emirates and take the race to a Jumbo-Visma team still licking their wounds? Some, however, aren’t convinced of the British team’s ability to spring a tactical surprise in the Pyrenees:

Jeez the heat is high here today – I keep having hallucinations – at one point I thought I saw people tweeting that Ineos could stage an ambush today.

— Journal Velo (@JournalVelo) July 19, 2022

While all eyes are focused skywards on the daunting climbs to come, Pyrenean specialist, tactical ambusher extraordinaire, and perpetual optimist Dan Martin reckons the wind could play a part in shaping the start of today’s stage:

I’m in Carcassonne for the start of @letour and it’s actually really windy this morning. Should be cross tail wind at the start and usually pretty open around here. Promises to add another aspect. Also back on @itvcycling later today to talk about it!

— Dan Martin (@DanMartin86) July 19, 2022

What the teams are looking at this morning. @VeloViewer changed intel in racing for ever. I used to study it everyday. Big red arrow means crosswinds but doesn’t seem too open. pic.twitter.com/1wmjOk8E3Y

— Dan Martin (@DanMartin86) July 19, 2022

Or maybe the peloton will just take another rest day and let the breakaway fight it out for the stage? 

19 July 2022, 08:48

AG2R Citroën confirms Cherel and Paret-Peintre out of Tour with Covid

Sadly, weekly tests carried out by the race organization have returned positive for Mikaël Cherel and Aurélien Paret-Peintre. Therefore, they won’t take the start of stage 16. All other riders, and the entire staff, returned negative tests and continue to race.

Heal up champs 💪 pic.twitter.com/Yfhdt7RLUh

— AG2R CITROËN TEAM (@AG2RCITROENTEAM) July 19, 2022

They kept us waiting for a while – almost 24 hours, in fact, after it was announced that two anonymous riders had tested positive for Covid during the Tour’s rest day checks, but this morning AG2R Citroën confirmed that their riders, Mikaël Cherel and Aurélien Paret-Peintre, will not start today’s stage following discussions with the race’s medical team.

It’s a disappointing end to an underwhelming Tour for 26-year-old Paret-Peintre, who was targeting a decent GC result but slid down the standings after a torrid few days in the Alps.

The French team also confirmed that the rest of the team’s riding and support staff tested negative for the virus and will continue at the race.

19 July 2022, 08:48

Tour de France GC, Cann Table style

As the riders roll out from the start of stage 16 in Carcassonne, here’s a nice Twitter thread from road.cc’s Simon on the Tour de France GC visually represented in the style of the ‘Cann Table’.

The Cann Table, or Visual League Table, is a method of displaying data in which the distance between teams or riders is also presented, and was pioneered by Simon’s late friend and fellow Arsenal fan, Jenny Cann.

Inspired by the ‘Cann Table’ invented by my much-missed friend Jenny a couple of years before she passed away in 2003 (see next tweet), here’s a visual representation of actual time gaps at #TDF2022 as we head into the final week; each line on Excel = a 10-second bracket. pic.twitter.com/3dRZOgCHai

— Simon MacMichael 💛🇫🇷🚲 (@simonmacmichael) July 18, 2022

Jenny, who beat cancer once but lost return leg, devised it to show actual points gaps in FA Premier League. Still widely used 20 years after her death, and bears her name.
Met her through the Arsenal Mailing List; she’d have LOVED table for year after she passed 😊 pic.twitter.com/XZBDH5NW8T

— Simon MacMichael 💛🇫🇷🚲 (@simonmacmichael) July 18, 2022

Insufficient space to show Sp*rs, sorry 😉
Visited Jenny in Barts just before she died; she was opinionated but also unassuming to the end, would be gobsmacked to know there is a Wikipedia page devoted to her invention and it is still used in football data-viz, with her name.

— Simon MacMichael 💛🇫🇷🚲 (@simonmacmichael) July 18, 2022

Wikipedia link: https://t.co/IeYrRdGFmB
You can still see Jenny in her old watering hole, @TheGunnersPub. Signed/framed @Arsenal shirt in her honour + picture of her with “two jugs” as she referenced it on her own website (those jugs being FAPL trophy + FA Cup, 1997/98 Double 🙂

— Simon MacMichael 💛🇫🇷🚲 (@simonmacmichael) July 18, 2022

Cofidis sprinter Max Walscheid also failed to start today’s stage to Foix after contracting Covid, while perennial breakaway favourite Lennard Kämna due to a persistent cold.

19 July 2022, 08:48

Police and crime commissioner broke speed limit five times in 12 weeks – after pledging to crack down on speeding

As they say on the internet, life comes at you fast… especially if you’re speeding in a car.

Well, that certainly proved the case for Caroline Henry, Nottinghamshire’s Conservative police and crime commissioner, who pledged to crack down on speeding in the county but who has since been handed a six-month driving ban for driving over the 30mph speed limit five times in less than three months.

The BBC reports that Henry, who was elected to her role in May 2021, was caught speeding at four different locations between March and June 2021 (including twice near a primary school in Daybrook), while driving a Mercedes and a Lexus with a personalised number plate.

The 52-year-old – whose official PCC website pledges to ensure “an efficient and effective response” to “issues of greatest community concern, including anti-social behaviour, speeding and rural crime” – admitted to the offences at Nottingham Magistrates’ Court and was handed a £2,450 fine in addition to her ban.

District judge Leo Pyle said Henry’s offences showed “that you are driving at consistent speeds above the speed limits.

“What I haven’t been told is why. Whether that was due to work or during your private time, you must allow time to get to your destination safely.

“Speed limit [cameras] are sited… not at places where they can issue maximum amounts in fines, but for safety reasons.”

Pyle rejected the commissioner’s application to keep her driving licence due to “exceptional hardship”, after Henry claimed that she would not be able to visit her child in hospital in Salisbury by public transport.

The judge said that while it would be an “inconvenience”, Henry’s husband, Broxtowe MP Darren Henry, would be able to “facilitate” the visits.

Conservative politician Henry was named “Britain’s most expensive MP” earlier this year after topping the Westminster expenses list, with claims totalling over £280,000 in 2021.

Speaking outside court after being sentenced, Henry resisted calls to resign from her role as police and crime commissioner, saying: “I’m truly sorry for speeding.

“Quite properly I’ve been fined and banned from driving for six months.

“I remain committed to serving the people of Nottinghamshire as police and crime commissioner.”

19 July 2022, 08:48

Mountain bikers, look away now…

Spirit of Road Racing vs Spirit of Gravel Racing vs Spirt of Criterium Racing vs Spirit of Mountain Biking. pic.twitter.com/QkmJ3z5doa

— Peter Flax (@Pflax1) July 18, 2022

I wonder what our colleagues over at off-road.cc make of this?

19 July 2022, 08:48

Is Mark Cavendish’s Tour stage winning bike for sale on eBay?

Got a spare fifteen grand and fancy a piece of Tour de France history? Well, you’re in luck (maybe).

Mark Cavendish’s Specialized S-Works McLaren Venge, ridden by the then-HTC sprinter to five stage wins and the green jersey at the 2011 Tour de France, appears to be for sale for that not so measly sum on eBay.

Cavendish 2011 bike - eBay
Cavendish 2011 bike - eBay (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cavendish 2011 bike - eBay
Cavendish 2011 bike – eBay (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

While the set up and colour scheme (not forgetting the ‘Mark Cavendish’ sticker on the top tube) certainly resemble Cav’s 2011 rig, it’s always hard to tell with these things.

I think I’ll just stick to the bottles I pinched from the feet of an old granny in Yorkshire in 2014…

19 July 2022, 08:48

Sick Soler suffers in the sun

Just when Tadej Pogačar thought that the tables had finally turned at this year’s Tour de France following Jumbo-Visma’s troubles on the road to Carcassonne on Sunday, his UAE Team Emirates squad is once again on the ropes today, before a single Pyrenean climb has been reached.

Netflix documentary star Marc Soler, who has looked very impressive riding in support of Pogačar, is currently suffering with a stomach bug.

After visiting the medical car, where he was seen vomiting on his bike, the Catalan climber is now riding alone just ahead of the broomwagon, over three and a half minutes behind the peloton, and is looking increasingly forlorn.

Reporting on the race from a motorbike for Eurosport, Alberto Contador said: “He’s really struggling today. He looks as though he’s completely spent. He’s totally isolated. I think he might abandon today as he’s struggling so much.

“But he’s such an important rider for Tadej Pogačar. It’s a bad day for UAE. But it just looks like he doesn’t have any energy.”

We’ll keep you posted on Soler’s lonely progress, or lack thereof, over the next 80 kilometres.

19 July 2022, 08:48

Warnock’s warm weather cycling tips

Need some advice on how to stay cool while out on your bike during the heatwave?

Well, never fear, as everyone’s favourite pedalling football manager Neil Warnock (sorry, Roberto) is on hand to offer his own tried and trusted tips:

Enjoy the lovely weather but enjoy it by staying hydrated 🤣😎 #heatwave #stayhydrated #water #Heatwave2022 pic.twitter.com/vMkt0Qm4mp

— Neil Warnock (@warnockofficial) July 19, 2022

“Stay healthy”? Colin will be getting a job in the government at this rate…

19 July 2022, 08:48

It’s happening… Pogačar attacks on penultimate climb

He said he would attack on every climb, didn’t he?

Well, Tadej Pogačar wasn’t bluffing, as the Slovenian launched his first stinging acceleration of the day two kilometres from the top of the Port de Lers, over 50 kilometres from the finish in Foix.

After tenth-placed Enric Mas went up the road earlier in the climb, Pogačar’s dig blew the GC group to pieces. While the defending champion’s attack immediately put Romain Bardet in trouble, with the French DSM rider crossing the summit over 30 seconds down, Jonas Vingegaard – as ever – remained glued to his rival’s back wheel.

💥 Let’s go ! It’s time to test Jonas’ legs for @TamauPogi !

💥 C’est parti ! @TamauPogi se dit qu’il est temps de tester les jambes du @MaillotjauneLCL !#TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/DzXtMuaGu5

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 19, 2022

Pogačar sprinted once again over the top of the Port de Lers, though Jumbo-Visma, aided by  Nathan Van Hooydonck dropping back from the break, appear to have regained control on the descent into the foot of the Mur de Péguère – where Pog will almost certainly attack again.

Get your popcorn at the ready…

19 July 2022, 08:48

Extreme journalistic protocol enforced

With the race heating up on the road, temperatures are also high in the press room, where the Tour’s journalists have resorted to working outside:

Tour press room is now hotter than the Victoria Line so after the invocation of the extreme journalistic protocol we are all sitting outside. #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/IKgYQRE2pz

— Jeremy Whittle (@jeremycwhittle) July 19, 2022

Who’d write about cycling, eh? (He says, happy for the only time this July that he’s watching the Tour from his spare room/office.)

19 July 2022, 08:48

“This one is for my brother”: Emotional Hugo the victor, as Pogačar attacks on first day in the Pyrenees

Hugo Houle took a poignant victory on stage 16 of the Tour de France in Foix, the first Canadian win at the race for 34 years.

The Israel-Premier Tech rider soloed away with around 40 kilometres of the stage remaining, and held off a chase on the Mur de Péguère from Movistar’s Matteo Jorgenson, who had Houle’s teammate and fellow Canadian Michael Woods attached to his back wheel like an anchor.

Jorgenson’s crash on the descent into Foix ultimately sealed the deal, but in the end the 31-year-old – riding to the first road race victory of his career – was just too strong and deserved every inch of his win.

As he crossed the line in Foix, Houle pointed to the sky in memory of his late brother Pierrick, who was killed ten years ago by a drunk driver while out running.

Hugo, who went in search of Pierrick after the 19-year-old failed to return home from his run, found his brother at the side of the road. The drunk driver, who according to cycling journalist Thijs Zonneveld was tracked down by Hugo himself, was sentenced to eleven months in prison.

As he was swarmed by photographers and well-wishers at the finish, an emotional Houle grabbed the cross around his neck and told the cameras: “This one is for my brother”.

Hugo Houle wins stage 16 of the 2022 Tour de France (GCN)
Hugo Houle wins stage 16 of the 2022 Tour de France (GCN) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Hugo Houle wins stage 16 of the 2022 Tour de France (GCN)
Hugo Houle wins stage 16 of the 2022 Tour de France (GCN) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

While the unheralded Houle’s victory, the second of the Tour for his equally unfancied Israel-Premier Tech team, will undoubtedly go down as one of the stories of the 2022 race, behind we were treated to an amuse bouche of GC action before the two main courses to come on Wednesday and Thursday.

Following Tadej Pogačar’s pyrotechnics on the Port de Lers, UAE Team Emirates’ plan for the Péguère was derailed by an untimely mechanical for pace setter Rafał Majka, who almost took out his team leader when his chain snapped, lurching him sideways across the road.

Jumbo-Visma’s Sepp Kuss then stepped up to resume order – which in the American’s case means blowing almost all of the GC favourites out of the water. Apart from the top two, Pogačar and Vingegaard, as well as an impressive Nairo Quintana, all of the other overall contenders suffered on the final climb, though Geraint Thomas and David Gaudu managed to regain contact on the descent into town.

The big loser of the day, however, was Romain Bardet, who confirmed his shaky legs in Mende by losing over three and a half minutes after twice being dropped, slipping from fourth to ninth on GC.

While the top ten saw something of a shake up, the story of stage 16 of the 2022 Tour de France will forever belong to Hugo Houle.

19 July 2022, 08:48

Should cyclists leave the same passing distance for pedestrians as they expect from motorists?

Over on the road.cc forum, there’s been a bit of a debate about the oft-discussed relationship between cyclists and pedestrians, after a 69-year-old walker asked for our readers’ views on how bike riders treat pedestrians.

The post reads:

First of all, I want everyone to understand I have no gripe against cyclists.

However, locally there is a pedestrian/cycle path. The cyclists take delight in zooming past pedestrians as close and as fast as possible. So, weeks ago a cyclist ran into me, bruised my back, swore at me and accused me of ‘being all over the place’. I asked why he did not warn me by using his bell. Instead of replying, he rode off.

I have asked the local council to consider having demarcation lines: one side for pedestrians, one side for cyclists. So far there has been no response.

What is your view on this? I feel there will be more accidents, maybe even a fatality.

Car drivers have to give cyclists a metre and a half passing room, how about the same for cyclists to give pedestrians?

What do you think? Are some cyclists guilty of treating pedestrians on shared use paths in the same manner that they deplore when it comes to motorists? Is it, again, down to infrastructure, and the lack of proper segregated walking and cycling spaces?

Let us know by leaving your thoughts on the forum.

19 July 2022, 08:48

‘Marc Soler, you’re my hero’

And so died the myth of Marc Soler the freewheeling, earpiece-removing Ferris Bueller of Spanish cycling.

Ill, vomiting, it‘s 43 degrees & he still finishes the stage, 15 mins outside the time limit.

— Daniel Friebe (@friebos) July 19, 2022

Setting to one side – very briefly – concerns about the rider’s health, Soler’s unwavering (and somewhat unnecessary) dedication to the cause at this year’s Tour de France has surely put to bed memories of that infamous earpiece-removing, car ceiling punching incident at Movistar… 

But in all seriousness – what were UAE thinking letting him continue to the finish?

19 July 2022, 08:48

Close passes: the result of slow cycling speeds or “sleep-deprived, over-heated, agitated and angry” drivers?

Before we all ride off into the searing white heat that now passes as a summer evening, here are a few of your thoughts on the correlation between slower cycling speeds (brought on by the temperatures or just purely through choice) and more aggressive, MGIF-style close passes.

PRSboy agreed with Guardian journalist Peter Walker’s suggestion that a drop in pace on the bike can result in a more frightening cycling experience, though one that may be influenced by the relative speed of the passing cars.

“I cycled one of my regular loops with a friend a while ago, who very much likes to trundle along and chat,” they wrote. “The result was that we were doing 20-25kmh than my usual 30-40kmh along a flat A-road section, and I felt genuinely scared in comparison. 

“Passes did feel more close, possibly, but more than that I think I noticed the relative speeds as cars doing the same speed were effectively passing 10-15 mph quicker.”

vthejk criticised the pigeon-holing’ description of faster cycle commuters as “lycra-clad”, writing: “One of the reasons I hate the ‘lycra-clad’ narrative is that it’s ALWAYS eventually weaponised to pigeonhole all people who chose to wear active clothing when cycling. Someone wearing lycra is immediately the more confident, or the more fit, or the more recreational or casual.

“In reality, the only reason I wear lycra is because I sweat a lot on even a moderately paced commute and it dries easier.

“I wonder if this pigeonholing has resulted in the sentiments expressed above – people starting cycling in civvies, then are forced to ride faster to feel safer near fast-moving motor traffic, then find that civvies are uncomfortable and sweaty, then end up riding in lycra, then get abused for being ‘lycra-clad’?

“Perhaps this is just conjecture, but it certainly doesn’t seem like an unreasonable narrative.”

Fursty Ferret, meanwhile, pondered whether there was another reason behind instances of aggressive driving on the roads: “The aggressive overtakes are little to do with lower speeds and all related to the anger that builds in someone who’s in a metal box in 40 degree temperatures with no air conditioning.

“Same aggression obvious on the motorway yesterday.”

BalladOfStruth, who also noticed an uptick in the number of close passes at a slower pace yesterday, agreed: “I’m also one of the types that just goes as hard as I can when commuting to try and keep up with traffic. My commute is only a little over five miles and hovers around 5 percent gradient most of the way home. I sit at around 22mph the whole way and I generally don’t get overtaken that much.

“I took it a bit easier yesterday did notice a lot more shitty overtakes – though… I’m not sure how much of this is due to me going a bit slower and how much is because all of the drivers are sleep-deprived, over-heated, agitated and angry before you put them in their car and make them deal with all of the frustrations of day-to-day urban driving.”

19 July 2022, 08:48

Cycling in the heat: Do slower speeds result in more aggressive overtakes?

As we wake, sleep-deprived and sweaty, to another day of scorching temperatures, those of us forced or choosing to cycle in this week’s stifling conditions have probably noticed a drop in speed (at least I did, when I went out for ‘relaxing’ rest day spin in the – slightly – more benign clime of Northern Ireland. Probably shouldn’t have gone near any hills, mind you).

Guardian journalist Peter Walker was one of the many cyclists easing off in the heat on their commute to and from work yesterday.

However, the political correspondent noted on Twitter that his slower speed appeared to attract a greater number of aggressive, Must Get in Front drivers:

Cycling home in the open-oven-door heat was fine, temperature wise – I just rode a couple of gears lower than usual. But notable how a speed reduction brings out so many more of the MGIF* driving brigade. There’s a reason so many London bike commuters are speedy lycra types.

— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) July 18, 2022

Walker’s argument was supported by most of Cycling Twitter, with some noting the correlation between segregated infrastructure and cyclists riding their bikes at a comfortable pace:

As a “lycra for commuting” type, going as fast as I bloody can while not breaking traffic laws (not very often anyway) I got to agree. I see so many more MGIF incidents on cyclists that choose to travel at a slower pace (as is entirely the cyclists choice and right) than I suffer

— lord nick allison (@NickEngineer) July 18, 2022

It should not be this way, for slower riders. They should feel safe and free to ride at any damn speed they like.
Note, it’s significantly better in London than I’ve experienced in other cities. Yes, Birmingham and Manchester, I’m looking at you specifically.

— lord nick allison (@NickEngineer) July 18, 2022

I can confirm that this isn’t London specific. Am 7 months pregnant and lost between 4 and 5 mph off my typical ride pace, drivers are noticeably more aggressive. Thing is I’m still averaging 13 or 14mph so I fear things must be really bad for leisure riding.

— Emma Pulsford (@EmmaPulsford) July 18, 2022

This is one of the issues of not separating transport modes: many people riding bikes are pushed to ride faster than they’d ideally like, just to stay ‘out of harms way’ ☹️

This becomes abundantly clear in cities with segregated bike infra where they can ride at a chosen pace.

— Andrew 🏳️‍🌈 🇪🇺 🚲🏂 💙 (@monsieurballard) July 18, 2022

Another Lycra for commuting type here ✋ I wasn’t aware I was doing this, but yeah, I guess I give it some beans to get overtaken less. It’s telling home much I willingly slow down on the nice new bike paths because it’s nice to do so

— Scoober (@Scoober84) July 19, 2022

Agree strongly. When I first started commuting in London, it was, frankly, terrifying. As I got stronger and fitter, I found the increased speed made me feel a lot safer. That needs to change if we want as many people out of their cars and cycling as possible.

— Bang Average 3rd Cat (@BangAverageCat3) July 18, 2022

The more capable you look of catching them up further down the road, the less likely MGIFs etc are to cut you up

— Richard Hallett (@hallettrichard) July 18, 2022

Yes, really noticed it last night when riding at 20 km/h rather than my standard 30+. I was riding my only bike without a camera mount otherwise I could have sent in half a dozen. Also noticeable, as during lockdown, how lower traffic levels encourage some to use excessive speed.

— Rendel Harris (@Rendel_Harris) July 19, 2022

Absolutely. Cycling feels a lot safer when you’re matching traffic speed – and a lot more enjoyable when you’re on protected infrastructure and don’t have to.

— Sam Wilkin (@MrSamWilkin) July 19, 2022

Though others were less appreciative of the need for speed when it comes to dealing with close passing motorists:

Really disappointed at the cyclists on this thread. I’m in my 60s and have cycled commuted most of my life. I want to go at a steady easy going pace and not have to bust a gut to do over 10mph

— Huw Jones (@HuwLabourLeftie) July 18, 2022

I find slowing down, taking it easy, breathing and being calm is extremely helpful out there (took me years to figure it out 😂). Getting caught up in the rat race means you just end up racing to reds with all the drivers 🤮. Big, high bars beat drop bars for me nowadays too

— Brazel (@Brazelephantman) July 19, 2022

What do you think? Do slower speeds lead to more close passes and aggressive overtakes, potentially limiting the kind of cyclists who can safely commute in busy areas?

19 July 2022, 08:48

Only 347 days until the 2023 Tour de France and Cav’s next chance…

"I know I'll win again": Mark Cavendish confident of 35th Tour de France stage win

"I know I'll win again": Mark Cavendish confident of 35th Tour de France stage win

The Manx Missile admitted it was disappointing to miss out on this year's race when in his "best form for easily a decade"

19 July 2022, 08:48

Police investigating collision involving caravan-towing motorist and cyclist after close pass dispute

Police investigating collision involving caravan-towing motorist and cyclist after close pass dispute

The cyclist suffered minor injuries but did not require hospital treatment

19 July 2022, 08:48

Couldn’t happen to a nicer and more talented bloke…

"Fuming" James Corden knocked off bike in central London

"Fuming" James Corden knocked off bike in central London

A witness said the TV star angrily confronted another cyclist who "darted across the road and sent him flying" as Corden cycled alongside his wife

19 July 2022, 08:48

It’s back, back again… Unfortunately, we probably won’t see the dropper post deployed on the descent into Foix today, as Matej failed to make the break of the day

Return of the dropper post! Mohoric spotted using his favourite marginal gain at Tour de France

Return of the dropper post! Mohoric spotted using his favourite marginal gain at Tour de France

The battle everyone wants to see! Are we going to get a Stage 16 Mohoric vs Pidcock descending battle?

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45 thoughts on “Cycling in the heat: Do slower speeds result in more aggressive overtakes?; “This one is for my brother”: Hugo the victor; Police boss caught speeding 5 times in 12 weeks; Cyclists and pedestrians; ‘Evil Cycle Lobby’ strikes again + more on the live blog”

  1. Fursty Ferret
    July 19, 2022 at 9:05 am
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    The aggressive overtakes are

    The aggressive overtakes are little to do with lower speeds and all related to the anger that builds in someone who’s in a metal box in 40 degree temperatures with no air conditioning.

    Same aggression obvious on the motorway yesterday.

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    • hawkinspeter
      July 19, 2022 at 9:30 am
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      Fursty Ferret wrote:

      The aggressive overtakes are little to do with lower speeds and all related to the anger that builds in someone who’s in a metal box in 40 degree temperatures with no air conditioning.

      Same aggression obvious on the motorway yesterday.

      — Fursty Ferret

      Don’t most cars have air conditioning these days or have manufacturers moved to a subscription service?

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      • kil0ran
        July 19, 2022 at 10:05 am
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        You joke, but I think Tesla
        You joke, but I think Tesla do provide it as a subscription service

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        • hawkinspeter
          July 19, 2022 at 10:22 am
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          kil0ran wrote:

          You joke, but I think Tesla do provide it as a subscription service

          — kil0ran

          Late-stage capitalism!

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          • chrisonabike
            July 19, 2022 at 11:47 am
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            Is this known as “Ryan air

            Is this known as “Ryan air-con”?

          • hawkinspeter
            July 19, 2022 at 12:01 pm
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            chrisonatrike wrote:

            Is this known as “Ryan air-con”?

            — chrisonatrike

            I’d expect Ryanair to be more than happy to start charging for air-con, but they’d better not complain if I open the window instead

        • brooksby
          July 19, 2022 at 2:22 pm
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          kil0ran wrote:

          You joke, but I think Tesla do provide it as a subscription service

          — kil0ran

          BMW.  High end BMW now have subscriptions for all sorts of things which are there, and fitted in the car, but you have to pay a monthly fee to ‘unlock’ them.

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          • Jimwill
            July 19, 2022 at 2:35 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            You joke, but I think Tesla do provide it as a subscription service

            — brooksby

            BMW.  High end BMW now have subscriptions for all sorts of things which are there, and fitted in the car, but you have to pay a monthly fee to ‘unlock’ them.— kil0ran

            Was reading that earlier. Apparently there’s a one-off fee that permanently unlocks these features.
            Seems abit odd to me though installing things like heated seats that might never get used. Meaning there’s wasted energy lugging shit around.

          • OnYerBike
            July 19, 2022 at 2:47 pm
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            I’d heard about that – seems

            I’d heard about that – seems ridiculous! It’s one thing paying for optional extras when you’re ordering a new car – if you’re building a car from scratch, then including something like a heated seat is an extra complexity (and hence cost) compared to a non-heated seat.

            But if they’ve already installed the heated seat and sold you the car, how on earth do they justify charging you a further fee to “activate” it?

          • hawkinspeter
            July 19, 2022 at 3:30 pm
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            OnYerBike wrote:

            But if they’ve already installed the heated seat and sold you the car, how on earth do they justify charging you a further fee to “activate” it?

            — OnYerBike

            They don’t have to justify it, they just have to make sure that any attempt by the customer to activate it will count as tampering and invalidate MOT/insurance etc.

            It’s a reprehensible tactic to turn products against the consumer and it’s quite common in the tech world as well with Intel turning off various features in processors so that they can charge a premium for the full product.

          • mark1a
            July 19, 2022 at 2:46 pm
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            brooksby wrote:

            BMW.  High end BMW now have subscriptions for all sorts of things which are there, and fitted in the car, but you have to pay a monthly fee to ‘unlock’ them.

            — brooksby

            Odd one this. I could understand why historically some of the ConnectedDrive services were available on subscription with OTA updates, as some of those services require backend infrastructure to function, and map updates aren’t licence-free – but making Apple CarPlay chargeable when the rest of the entire industry gives it away is just greedy. The heated seats thing confused me, but then I suppose in the UK, an on/off monthly subscription compared to paying ~£900 for an optional extra (seat heating) used for 3 months of the year could be a different way. However if the hardware is already there, then it’s been priced in already to the cost of the vehicle. 
             

            Cycling industry did this for a while though – Cannondale are/were shipping bikes with a pre-installed power meter, owner could pay something like £500 to “unlock” it. Not sure if they still do, Activation codes were probably available on eBay 5 minutes after launch, I expect BMW will find that people will be saving them the trouble of unlocking car features. 

    • EddyBerckx
      July 19, 2022 at 9:31 am
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      Fursty Ferret wrote:

      The aggressive overtakes are little to do with lower speeds and all related to the anger that builds in someone who’s in a metal box in 40 degree temperatures with no air conditioning.

      Same aggression obvious on the motorway yesterday.

      — Fursty Ferret

      I disagree – I saw examples of this very early on in my cycle commuting days. The aggression I saw from tiny penised men towards young women was extraordinary..all so they’d get to the next red quicker.I’d love their families to witness it

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      • hawkinspeter
        July 19, 2022 at 9:38 am
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        What’s with the body shaming?

        I disagree – I saw examples of this very early on in my cycle commuting days. The aggression I saw from tiny penised men towards young women was extraordinary..all so they’d get to the next red quicker.I’d love their families to witness it

        — EddyBerckx

        What’s with the body shaming?

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        • EddyBerckx
          July 19, 2022 at 10:19 am
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          hawkinspeter wrote:

          I disagree – I saw examples of this very early on in my cycle commuting days. The aggression I saw from tiny penised men towards young women was extraordinary..all so they’d get to the next red quicker.I’d love their families to witness it

          — hawkinspeter

          What’s with the body shaming?— EddyBerckx

          I think it’s fair play against horrible, aggressive and nasty people tbh.

          But whatevs

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          • hawkinspeter
            July 19, 2022 at 10:24 am
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            EddyBerckx wrote:

            I disagree – I saw examples of this very early on in my cycle commuting days. The aggression I saw from tiny penised men towards young women was extraordinary..all so they’d get to the next red quicker.I’d love their families to witness it

            — EddyBerckx

            What’s with the body shaming?

            — hawkinspeter

            I think it’s fair play against horrible, aggressive and nasty people tbh.

            But whatevs

            — EddyBerckx

            I don’t mind having a go at nasty people, but why associate bad behaviour with a physical characteristic? It wouldn’t be acceptable to go around characterising all small-breasted women as being excessively angry, so why is it generally considered acceptable to do the same to men?

          • EddyBerckx
            July 19, 2022 at 11:05 am
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            I disagree – I saw examples of this very early on in my cycle commuting days. The aggression I saw from tiny penised men towards young women was extraordinary..all so they’d get to the next red quicker.I’d love their families to witness it

            — hawkinspeter

            What’s with the body shaming?

            — EddyBerckx

            I think it’s fair play against horrible, aggressive and nasty people tbh.

            But whatevs

            — hawkinspeter

            I don’t mind having a go at nasty people, but why associate bad behaviour with a physical characteristic? It wouldn’t be acceptable to go around characterising all small-breasted women as being excessively angry, so why is it generally considered acceptable to do the same to men?

            — EddyBerckx

            ok, point taken!

          • ShutTheFrontDawes
            July 19, 2022 at 10:32 am
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            Yes but they weren’t just
            Yes but they weren’t just being mean about horrible, aggressive, nasty people. They were also being mean about men with tiny penises. Many of us *ahem* them are lovely people who give plenty of room on overtakes.

    • IanMK
      July 19, 2022 at 9:41 am
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      Even with air conditioning, I

      Even with air conditioning, I think lack of sleep will cause greater aggression.

      It was suggested to me that as cyclists are used to operating with higher core temperatures we can cope better in the heat. 

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    • Shake
      July 19, 2022 at 10:14 am
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      While the heat is probably

      While the heat is probably exasperating things, I noticed I would get a lot more crappy overtakes when riding my slower singlespeed to work ~15mph.
      I’ve noticed it too when out riding with my partner that is a bit slower still

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    • vthejk
      July 19, 2022 at 11:19 am
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      Fursty Ferret wrote:

      The aggressive overtakes are little to do with lower speeds and all related to the anger that builds in someone who’s chosen to be in a metal box in 40 degree temperatures with no air conditioning at all.

      — Fursty Ferret

      Fixed that for you

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      • Owd Big 'Ead
        July 19, 2022 at 11:53 am
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        vthejk wrote:

        The aggressive overtakes are little to do with lower speeds and all related to the anger that builds in someone who’s chosen to be in a metal box in 40 degree temperatures with no air conditioning at all.

        — vthejk

        Fixed that for you

        — Fursty Ferret

        Indeed.

        There’s got to be a correlation between spending £20k upwards on a metal box that has to be insured, maintained and filled with fuel and absolutely useless driving.

        Secretly, I think the vast majority of drivers wish they were us, rather than being sheep and doing what they are told to conform to societies norms.

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        • Hirsute
          July 19, 2022 at 12:10 pm
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          They are all rented nowadays,

          They are all rented nowadays, hardly anyone buys a new car.

          Part of the problem: you spend £200-300 a month on a car so you use it regardless. Whereas someone like me how owns one outright (with a view to keeping it until uneconomic) has less need to use it.

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          • Dnnnnnn
            July 19, 2022 at 12:33 pm
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            hirsute wrote:

            you spend £200-300 a month on a car so you use it regardless

            — hirsute

            It would be interesting to see if there is research to back this up. I know when I’ve a hire car I fond myself to tempted to use it just to ‘get my money’s worth’. But I only ever have them for a day or a week, so it’s a bit of a novelty too. I suspect people on long-term contracts don’t feel much different to outright owners – but perhaps enough to make a difference?
            I imagine moving more of the costs to a per mile basis (and making them more visible) might reduce use. But the makers don’t want that.

          • Hirsute
            July 19, 2022 at 12:41 pm
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            Contracts are 3-5 years in

            Contracts are 3-5 years in the main, so not the same as owning it. Then there are bumps and scrapes to consider which are less relevant to an owner.

        • vthejk
          July 19, 2022 at 1:49 pm
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          Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:

          Secretly, I think the vast majority of drivers wish they were us, rather than being sheep and doing what they are told to conform to societies norms.

          — Owd Big 'Ead

          I would agree. I think that anything deviations from the norm is treated with disdain thinly disguised as jealousy, no? There’s a script for success – go to school, go to university, work somewhere ‘acceptable,’ have a (heterosexual) family, own a house, own a car. These supposed symbols of success are supposed to make one feel fulfilled, so it must be angering when someone else looks perfectly content sans those.

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  2. BalladOfStruth
    July 19, 2022 at 9:41 am
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    I’m also one of the types

    I’m also one of the types that just goes as hard as I can when commuting to try and keep up with traffic. My commute is only a little over five miles and hovers around 5% gradient most of the way home. I sit at around 22mph the whole way and I generally don’t get overtaken that much. 

    I took it a bit easier yesterday did notice a lot more shitty overtakes – though as I pointed out in a similar discussion on Reddit, I’m not sure how much of this is due to me going a bit slower and how much is because all of the drivers are sleep-deprived, over-heated, agitated and angry before you put them in their car and make them deal with all of the frustrations of day-to-day urban driving. Not that this excuses the guy who overtook me about 15m from this red light and then stopped diagonally across the ALS to stop me from using it.

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  3. Hirsute
    July 19, 2022 at 10:16 am
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    https://twitter.com

    Our #CycloSprayer working hard today to ease the #heatwave commute pic.twitter.com/e0C80RyfbF

    — ETA Services Ltd (@ETAservicesltd) July 19, 2022

     

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    • Jimwill
      July 19, 2022 at 10:23 am
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      10 times I tried tapping the
      10 times I tried tapping the play button…

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      • Hirsute
        July 19, 2022 at 10:37 am
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        Hope you have used the link

        Hope you have used the link by now !

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        • Jimwill
          July 19, 2022 at 11:05 am
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          Yup eventually worked it out.
          Yup eventually worked it out. In my defence I’d just got back from a crown improvement ride on a 20mile seggy in 30° heat and my brain had stopped working.

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    • stonojnr
      July 19, 2022 at 11:08 am
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      If someone tried to spray
      If someone tried to spray water on me like that, id be telling them to stick their pipe where the sun dont shine.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        July 19, 2022 at 11:49 am
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        Misting sprays are great in

        Misting sprays are great in this heat. I would be less likely to appreciate it if on other settings though.

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        • Jimwill
          July 19, 2022 at 2:10 pm
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          The best ones are when there
          The best ones are when there’s a farm watering a field in the middle of nowhere and some of the spray hits the road

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  4. vthejk
    July 19, 2022 at 11:33 am
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    One of the reasons I hate the

    One of the reasons I hate the ‘lycra-clad’ narrative is that it’s ALWAYS eventually weaponised to pigeonhole all people who chose to wear active clothing when cycling. Someone wearing lycra is immediately the more confident, or the more fit, or the more recreational  or casual.

    In reality, the only reason I wear lycra is because I sweat a lot on even a moderately paced commute and it dries easier. 

    I wonder if this pigeonholing has resulted in the sentiments expressed above – people starting cycling in civvies, then are forced to ride faster to feel safer near fast-moving motor traffic, then find that civvies are uncomfortable and sweaty, then end up riding in lycra, then get abused for being ‘lycra-clad’?

    Perhaps this is just conjecture, but it certainly doesn’t seem like an unreasonable narrative.

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    • Hirsute
      July 19, 2022 at 11:38 am
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      City Cycling – Richard

      City Cycling – Richard Ballantine (2007)

      “fast is safe”

      So I’d go along with that narrative.

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      • brooksby
        July 19, 2022 at 12:41 pm
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        Yeah, but Richard didn’t wear

        Yeah, but Richard didn’t wear lycra.

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        • Hirsute
          July 19, 2022 at 12:53 pm
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          Spandex ?

          Spandex ?

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  5. PRSboy
    July 19, 2022 at 11:39 am
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    I cycled one of my regular

    I cycled one of my regular loops with a friend a while ago, who very much likes to trundle along and chat.  The result was that we were doing 20-25kmh than my usual 30-40kmh along a flat A-road section, and I felt genuinely scared in comparison.  Passes did feel more close, possibly, but more than that I think I noticed the relative speeds as cars doing the same speed were effectively passing 10-15 mph quicker.

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  6. brooksby
    July 19, 2022 at 12:40 pm
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    Quote:

    “I remain committed to serving the people of Nottinghamshire as police and crime commissioner.”

    But she has been convicted of breaking the law – why does she even get to decide to stay on?  Surely she is no longer eligible to be PCC and she should have to step down? 

     

    (I will not mention Johnson choosing to stay on until September.  I will not mention Johnson choosing to stay on until September.)

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    • chrisonabike
      July 19, 2022 at 12:46 pm
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      Or Owen Paterson, Fiona

      Or Owen Paterson, Fiona Onasanya or (pick from a vast list of “honourable members”, councillors, lawyers and other pillars of the community of all political shades who were so shocked that anyone would consider them mistaken – let alone rulebreakers / criminals – that they felt compelled to remain in post).

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    • Hirsute
      July 19, 2022 at 12:55 pm
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      Probably have to commit an

      Probably have to commit an offence above <offence type X> or have some sort of prison sentence for that.

       

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  7. eburtthebike
    July 20, 2022 at 6:45 am
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    The judge said that while it

    The judge said that while it would be an “inconvenience”, Henry’s husband, Broxtowe MP Darren Henry, would be able to “facilitate” the visits.

    “Kudos” to the judge, but please shoot whoever “inserted” the inverted commas.

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    • IanMSpencer
      July 20, 2022 at 7:42 am
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      Ah, you mean the use
      Ah, you mean the use quotation marks to emphasise that these were the actual words used by the judge, as opposed to the annoying use of scare quotes.

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      • eburtthebike
        July 20, 2022 at 12:14 pm
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        IanMSpencer wrote:

        Ah, you mean the use quotation marks to emphasise that these were the actual words used by the judge, as opposed to the annoying use of scare quotes.

        — IanMSpencer

        They are totally unnecessary, and merely sow seeds of doubt about what was actually said.

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  8. Jenova20
    July 20, 2022 at 10:32 am
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    I solw down and give

    I slow down and give peddestrians space on shared paths, but it’s not possible to give them 1.5 metres when the paths are only a metre wide and the pedestrian is walking in the middle, completely unresponsive to me dinging my bell.

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tomlew 55 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris Market forces, probably. But I'm no expert. I realize some of us here love cycling, but what would make forfeiting extra income excusable? And even if the tickets were cheaper, how would you prevent extra demand so that people prevented from participating would not complain about being treated unfairly? Why don't we simply acknowledge TdF is not a public good, it is just another commercial event. With a bit of luck you can probably survive without it.

in: Tickets for Edinburgh Tour de France opening ceremony on sale for as much as £99, despite previous team presentations being free of charge
ChrisA 8 hours ago

@slownomad From the DVSA/DoT Guidance Notes that your link refers to: "To be classified as an EAPC under the EAPC regulations[footnote 1], the cycle must:" etc. . It then goes on to say: "If an EAPC does not comply with the regulations, it is treated as a motor vehicle under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 and the Road Traffic Act 1988" So no, it does not say that the only EAPC is a legal EAPC. As you say bike may refer to pedal cycles or motorbikes. E-bike logically follows the same usage and includes EAPCs. "Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycle" is a technical description. The EAPC Regulations 1983 allow for some EAPCs to be treated in law as pedal cycles. The Guidance Notes finish with a disclaimer: "This guidance is a summary of DfT’s understanding of what the law requires." etc.. & finishes with "You are therefore advised to consult the relevant legislation and, if necessary, seek independent advice." So even the DVSA & DoT don't actually know what it all means.

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Gravel1-2 8 hours ago

Not noted in the review but the old Crux was a CX - gravel racer whereas this new one seems to be pure gravel, taking inspiration from road race bikes more than anything. What’s happening with specialized and CX? Is it just being left behind or is this the bike still for CX?

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Rendel Harris 10 hours ago

@RayG In my experience many of the people who attend overpriced events like these aren't genuine fans but people with high disposable incomes who like to go "for the experience" and to say that they were there. In any case, even if every ticket was sold to a dyed-in-the-wool cycling fan who was prepared to pay silly money because it's a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see the Depart in their home town/country, why would that make charging exploitative prices excusable?

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tomlew 11 hours ago

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RayG 13 hours ago

@Rendel Harris I see the average cycling fan protested by snapping up the available tickets immediately.

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Rendel Harris 15 hours ago

@RayG Even if the ticket revenues for this event were all going straight into rider safety, which I'll wager they're not, there would still be perfectly relevant questions to be asked as to why the ordinary cycling fan was being stung for the cost rather than it coming out of ASO's €30M profit from the Tour alone and the €130M it makes annually from its race portfolio.

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Cayo 16 hours ago

@Daclu Trelub I'm also wondering if they're putting matting down over the setts leading up to the esplanade - imagine the number of potential pre-race retirements if they try to ride slowly over them uphill if it's bucketing down that night! 🫣

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Cayo 16 hours ago

@HoarseMann I considered that probability - Just expecting the prime 'mid-priced' seats to have already gone. Not to mention there'll likely be an even bigger strain on the terrible ticketing platform...

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No Reply 16 hours ago

@wtjs I went to Clitheroe to watch them freezing their tits off in the rain after weeks of glorious weather. The crash on the lower slopes of Pendle was actually one of the police motorcycle marshals who slid out on the cattle grid on the bend at the foot of the straight climb to the Well Springs.

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