Bicycle frame making moved to endangered ‘Red List’ by Heritage Crafts; BMX jump cycle lane — cycling route has the mother of all speed bumps installed; Cav crashes AGAIN (+ stunning Amalfi scenery & breakaway heartbreak in Naples) + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Fallout from Giro crash chaos — Dainese relegated (PLUS: Cav update)
Slip ‘n slide across the line of stage five
Don’t you know you might find
A better race to win
It’s a work in progress… with this much reaction, fallout, medical updating and speculation from yesterday’s Giro stage to round up it’s probably best we get cracking…
[Zac Williams/SWpix.com]
Team DSM’s Alberto Dainese was relegated, bumping Cav up to fourth place on the stage, the commissaires deciding the Italian’s dangerous sprinting had caused the pile-up. Dainese was also fined 500CHF and lost all the points he gained on the day for the points classification.
“We accept the jury’s decision and once again hope those who crashed in the finale are okay,” Team DSM later said in a statement.
Back at the Astana Qazaqstan team hotel, Cavendish said his injuries weren’t too bad and that he had received a phone call from Dainese…
“The circumstances after that…it’s sprinting. Alberto has called me. You know, it’s part of sprinting, I just hope everybody else who crashed is OK, I saw some stretchers and that,” he said.
[Zac Williams/SWpix.com]
“I’ve had my wounds cleaned up, and my knee’s a little bit sore, but I don’t think there’s anything broken. We haven’t checked that out yet, but I don’t have the pain of anything broken.
🇮🇹 VIDEO: @giroditalia @MarkCavendish talks on this crazy Stage 5 ⬇️#Giro #GirodItalia #AstanaQazaqstanTeam pic.twitter.com/7PpgLnp7or
— Astana Qazaqstan Team (@AstanaQazTeam) May 10, 2023
AG2R Citroën’s Andrea Vendrame was the rider seen on the stretcher, his team confirming that the Italian has no broken bones, but “a deep wound that requires stitches as well as skin abrasions on his left shoulder”.
“I crashed after crossing the finish line,” Vendrame said. “Luckily, I didn’t break anything. We were coming at 60 km/h and Mark Cavendish crashed. His bike was thrown to the left of the road and I couldn’t avoid it. I found myself in the barriers. These are never good moments. I will do everything to get the best possible treatment this evening with the medical staff. I hope to be at the start tomorrow, that’s my goal for the next few hours. It would be heartbreaking to leave the Giro d’Italia.”
Arkéa–Samsic’s David Dekker was also involved and was able to return to the team bus after picking himself up.
"He will have a difficult day": Soudal Quick-Step confirm Remco Evenepoel crash injuries after TWO falls on stage five
Double crash pain for Remco yesterday, here’s what the team’s doctor had to say about his condition…
Soudal Quick-Step Doctor Toon Cruyt talked about @EvenepoelRemco’s condition after the two crashes in which he was involved during stage 5 of the #Giro. pic.twitter.com/tzP6Ukp9Ag
— Soudal Quick-Step Pro Cycling Team (@soudalquickstep) May 10, 2023
> Remco Evenepoel crashes after loose dog runs into Giro d’Italia peloton
Shiny aero stuff
Why just be aero when you can be aero AND shiny?
You might remember this Kogel Bearings cage from the live blog the other week, well, Gustav Gullholm has got his hands on the finished product… a custom polished SRAM RED AXS XPLR derailleur with matching prototype Kogel Kolossos Aero cage.
“While we can debate how much faster it actually makes you, I’d say it’s a fact that it’ll at least make you look fast AF!” Gustav reckons.
Oh, and for the pleasure of putting down a refundable $10 deposit you can be first in line for when Kogel puts it into production. I’ll leave that for any of you who found a winning lottery ticket down the back of the sofa last week…
Peloton poetry: Soudal Quick-Step call on Charles Bukowski to sum up stage five
To quote the man who rocked Los Angeles’ underground literary scene half a century ago as he depicted the American society like no one had done it before him:
“People run from rain, but sit in bathtubs full of water”
Photo: #Giro pic.twitter.com/dBqCDxE5DX
— Soudal Quick-Step Pro Cycling Team (@soudalquickstep) May 10, 2023
At least it’s better than a dismally shoehorned sponsor shout-out…
The ol' imperial vs metric slugfest (+ comment of the day)
Well done LukeB for winning comment of the day by pointing out my unapologetic inconsistencies…
> How fast?! Road bike 10-mile time trial record broken at 51.6km/h average speed for 18:41 clocking
An imperial distance covered at a metric speed – does that count? https://t.co/Ufy3DDwmIU
— LukeB_MTB @mastodon.social (@LukeB_MTB) May 10, 2023
BMX jump cycle lane — cycling route has the mother of all speed bumps installed
While desperately hoping not to give any cyclist-bashing local councillors here in the UK any ideas, just look at the size of this speed bump spotted on a Norwegian cycle path!
I’d say this sign is an understatement pic.twitter.com/boj8AEwgiu
— Anders Hartmann (@andershartmann) May 10, 2023
Not sure the sign does that justice. Hit that one too hot and you’ll land in Sweden…
Ideally it would be a bit steeper, just for maximum launch angle, but top marks for the don’t give a f delivery of just plonking a great big mass of different coloured tarmac onto the existing surface like some poor B-list celebrity’s attempt at icing a cake on Bake Off. No handshake for this.
At least make it a table top so you can jump it pic.twitter.com/5hQKyGXgsA
— CycleGaz™ (@cyclegaz) May 11, 2023
Anyway, in my book the Parisian cycle lane speed bumps one mayor claimed were for cyclists’ own protection are still undefeated…
"I did my sprint wrong": Alberto Dainese reflects on stage five crash
“I didn’t realise straight away, I realised afterwards,” Dainese, who was relegated from his fourth place, told the TV cameras at the start of stage six in Naples. “Honestly, I did my sprint wrong, I was on Kaden Groves and I got boxed in by Mads Pedersen and Jonathan Milan, I couldn’t get out so when I saw the gap on the left I tried to pass but it was too late for me to try to win the stage.
“Today, Marius Mayrhofer will do the sprint, I’ll try to be the penultimate man in the best possible way.”
Sounds like a day on the naughty step for Alberto…
When in Naples...
In the city celebrating a first Scudetto in 33 years, with the great Diego Maradona looking down, the Giro peloton may end up being hounded out of town after Italian champ Filippo Zana’s, admittedly cleat-hampered, shot at keepy uppies…
📍 Napoli
Giro things 🇮🇹 #giro #GirodItalia @giroditalia pic.twitter.com/8kiZzukGE6
— Stephanie Constand (@stephconstand) May 11, 2023
Remco didn’t make the cleat mistake, removing his shoes for this more respectable effort…
Olé, olé, olé!#Giro pic.twitter.com/aZqB1FwWHf
— Soudal Quick-Step Pro Cycling Team (@soudalquickstep) May 11, 2023
Watch out Remco, Roy Keane’s coming for your centre-mid spot…
> Footballers who cycle XI — the Premier League stars who love life on two wheels
Today’s stage will travel the training roads of another of our XI, a certain Ballon d’Or-winning Italian centre back by the name of Fabio Cannavaro who regularly uploads his Campania spins to Strava.
Stunning scenery as the Giro peloton pushes the pace along the Amalfi Coast
Currently in discussions with the powers that be to organise a free road.cc cycling holiday to the Amalfi Coast for all you live blog regulars (I wish)… what a stunning Giro stage this has been…
The sort of TV pictures a race organiser and tourist board dream of, and a welcome day’s sunshine for the riders after yesterday’s washout.
Rumours are the upcoming Tour of Britain stage finishing in Harlow was the inspiration for today’s route… don’t shoot the messenger (even if he is chatting rubbish)…
This is quite something
📌 Amalfi#Giro #GirodItalia pic.twitter.com/8A5lDCOtQx
— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 11, 2023
From getting pelters from Jeremy Clarkson to the Giro d'Italia breakaway
Remember this?
Fair enough if you’ve tried to forget everything between March 2020 and the following summer, but at least the year gave us this — Jeremy Clarkson berating a pro cyclist for being out during lockdown…
Yes, a profesional cyclist doing his job by being out the house riding a bike. A bit like, I don’t know, a farming TV personality being out the house doing their job by farming and talking bull… Talking about male cows, is obviously what I meant there…
Anyway, ranting aside, that rider in Trek-Segafredo kit, who got a cameo in Clarkson’s Farm on Amazon, was Charlie Quarterman who after a tough couple of years is back back racing against the best. Today, he’s in the Giro breakaway…
Last year at this time Charlie Quarterman was racing the amateur stage race called Tour de Loiret (Elite national)
Year later, he’s riding in a #Giro break of the day. Just shows you quick things can change in the world of cycling! pic.twitter.com/TsC5McHfXZ
— Eemeli (@LosBrolin) May 11, 2023
Remember kids, all it takes is talent, hard work, dedication… and a snide remark from Clarkson…
Mads Pedersen wins stage six of the Giro d'Italia after Simon Clarke and Alessandro De Marchi's breakaway falls just short
After an incredible full day breakaway effort, Alessandro De Marchi and Simon Clarke were both looking for their first Giro win, and in the Australian’s case to complete his Grand Tour stage wins set.
Into the final kilometre with a decent gap of 14 seconds but somehow — perhaps the Italian knowing Clarke would likely be faster in the sprint, perhaps the Australian not wanting to be pressured into leading out, perhaps just through pure mental and physical fatigue — the pair dallied. No more than a few seconds hesitation, but after a few hours pushing, giving everything for victory, that was all it took…
𝘼 𝙂𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙏𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙡𝙖𝙢! 🤩
Mads Pedersen surges past Alessandro De Marchi and Simon Clarke to claim victory in Stage 6! 👏#giroditalia pic.twitter.com/Cbm7X9pnGj
— Eurosport (@eurosport) May 11, 2023
Instead, it was Mads Pedersen winning his first Giro stage, the Dane completing his Grand Tour stage win set, the win in Naples sitting pretty alongside three Vuelta stages and a Tour victory, all achieved in the last 10 months.
The run in to the finish was hectic, the peloton rattling over the twisting cobbled streets of Italy’s third largest city. Keep an eye out for the commissaires’ take on Ineos Grenadiers liberal use of the team car to ensure Geraint Thomas regained contact with the peloton after dropping his chain dodging traffic furniture…
𝗚𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘁 𝗧𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗮𝘀’ 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳𝗳! 😲
The Ineos Grenadiers rider quickly reattaches his chain and looks to re-join the peloton 🚴♂️💨#giroditalia pic.twitter.com/CM72lyXpvu
— Eurosport (@eurosport) May 11, 2023
Cav crashes AGAIN
No images of this during the TV coverage but a photo doing the rounds on social media shows the British national champ on the deck again… and considering the weather, it’s hardly difficult to work out this was definitely today’s stage…
#Giro 🇮🇹 – 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
Previously unseen photograph of Mark Cavendish.
He’d been on the floor earlier in the stage, fortunately, he was able to continue.#DomestiqueLive
📸Credit: Luca Bettini/Getty pic.twitter.com/W8C9S0nFSO
— Domestique (@Domestique___) May 11, 2023
Before the stage Alberto Dainese and Cav met for a morning after the night before chat…
Before the start @alberto_dainese and @MarkCavendish caught up, and put yesterday’s finale behind them.🤝🏻#Giro pic.twitter.com/eL1QNDHDZj
— Team DSM (@TeamDSM) May 11, 2023
Cavendish finished today’s stage in 141st place, alongside three Astana teammates, more than 18 minutes behind Mads Pedersen.
Photo of the day
#Giro 🇮🇹
These guys 👏💔 pic.twitter.com/yib3ZtRZkw
— Team Jayco AlUla (@GreenEDGEteam) May 11, 2023
Or maybe a screenshot from this…
🍕 The problem with these tweets is that I instantly get hungry.#Giro #GirodItalia pic.twitter.com/duyiuL8hFf
— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 11, 2023
Further reading on British frame makers
While you’re all here for the frame-making story, why not check out a couple of Steve Thomas’ excellent features on some of England’s best bike builders from the 20th century…
> Northern vintage: 10 of the best 20th century British bike builders from the North and Midlands
Crisis? What crisis? Your thoughts on Heritage Crafts' frame-making endangered status
Is frame making in danger? Bicycle frame making moved to endangered ‘Red List’ by Heritage Craftshttps://t.co/6JhYhDjLvx #cycling pic.twitter.com/81QWO9zROO
— road.cc (@roadcc) May 11, 2023
Not according to some of you…
Secret_squirrel: “WTF. Have Heritage Crafts never been to Bespoked? Its my (totally uninformed lol) impression that frame building is having a rennaisance.”
quiff: “Also came here to use the word renaissance. I would have guessed UK framebuilder numbers have increased in say the last 10 years.”
I’ve got to admit I’ve never been to Bespoked, but Jack has… here’s what he saw…
Bicycle frame making moved from viable to endangered by Heritage Crafts
Bicycle frame making is in danger, according to Heritage Crafts, the national charity for traditional heritage crafts moving the trade into its ‘Red List’ of endangered crafts.
Previously classed as a viable craft, the downgrade to endangered suggests that while there are currently “sufficient craftspeople to transmit the craft skills to the next generation” there are “serious concerns about their ongoing viability”.
Heritage Crafts’ definition suggests this could be due to shrinking markets, an ageing demographic or a declining number of practitioners. In publishing its research, the charity noted how the energy crisis and inflation has “only exacerbated the issues faced by our most at-risk skills, building on the cumulative effect of Covid, continuing uncertainties around Brexit and structural issues relating to the funding for skills transmission”.
And while bicycle frame making is not yet in the critically endangered category alongside clog making, glass eye making and sporran making, it does now share the same endangered status as crafts such as cricket bat making, horn, antler and bone working and kilt making. The charity reports one craft, mouth-blown flat glass has gone extinct since the publication of its last edition.
“The effect of the energy crisis, inflation, COVID-19 and Brexit have been tough on everyone, not least the craftspeople who possess our most fundamental craft skills,” Mary Lewis, who led the research on behalf of Heritage Crafts, said.
“We know that heritage craft skills operate like an ecosystem; if we lose one part it can have devastating consequences on other parts of the system. If we allow endangered crafts to disappear then we seriously diminish the opportunities for future generations to create their own sustainable and fulfilling livelihoods and deal with the challenges of the future.”
11 May 2023, 07:57
11 May 2023, 07:57
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Ds2025: where they are going wrong is that they are crushing the motorbike rather than the person sat on top of it. If they did the latter this issue would be solved in less than 24 hours.
I came this way today with the car boot sale in operation. There was a marshal at the entrance, who stopped a car turning right across the cycleway as I was approaching. So that certainly works. I think it necessary for the marshal to be there, I couldn't say if the driver would have turned if he hadn't been there but you always have to suspect the worst. Unfortunately there is no marshal at the exit, and there was certainly a car stopped across the cycleway as I was approaching it. But he pulled onto the road before I reached it, and the following car stayed off the cycleway as I went through. Ideally there should have been a marshal there too. On the whole, though, it's a really high standard piece of infrastructure. Just a pity it doesn't extend a bit further.
“absolute carnage” So right! Just look at the bodies piled up, blood running in the gutters and injured people limping away. It's a bit of a problem with a road, delaying some people for minutes at a time: it isn't carnage, let alone 'absolute carnage'. Anyone who exaggerates so ridiculously really shouldn't be allowed to comment in public, unless they want to demonstrate their idiocy to all and sundry.
I'm criticising them for not riding in secondary position, not primary. At least 60cms (2 feet) from the edge of the road as the HC explicitly recommends. Leaving aside the small minority of riders who find mounting and dismounting a bike difficult - which sounds suspiciously similar to the motorists "but, but what about disabled drivers?" when talking about LTNs - what's wrong with able bodied riders walking the few metres over that narrow, Victorian bridge? Sure, if there's clearly no-one on it I wouldn't condemn anyone for riding it slowly, but if it's not clear forcing pedestrians to stop and squeeze to the side is, frankly, a rather entitled opinion. Plus it's easy to hold a road bike a little ahead of you and hold the saddle - normally no need to hold the bars if it's straight - so you're really not taking up much more room at all. There's a railway underpass near me that links to a shared then segregated path. It's narrow, and the path approaches at an angle so you can't see if it's clear, but many riders still choose to pedal through despite the clear 'no cycling' signage. Why?? Personally I don't go that way, except on foot, preferring the surrounding roads.
I think you're giving drivers too much credit. Many would not think twice about blocking the road if it makes their life easier, such as when turning right onto a busy road.
They might have to, but they won't. What they will do is pull out over the cycle path while they wait for a gap in motor traffic.
"We have enough regulation." I agree with the exception being legally allowed to sell something which is virtually illegal to use. How many purchasers own a suitably large piece of private land?
@jackcycles I'm not sure my grandchildren got that memo. Cycling should not be just for hardened road warriors.
Chrisonabike There are a number of police forces in England and Wales that are using portable testing equipment already... How effective it is another matter, I haven't looked into the results of failing (I would hope they just seize and crush the motorbike without any faff but I am sure there are appeal processes, promises not to use them on public roads etc).
Woah there - a precision-engineered European-made product, with unparalleled adaptability, is somehow a ‘rip off’? Compared to what - Temu? As per the article, most quality through-axles go for £50-60+, but aren’t adaptable and don’t provide any stand or trailer capability. If you want to balance your £3-4-5k suspension or carbon bike, or bikepacking setup on a budget product subject to highly focused stresses, fair play. Cycling’s a broad church.
25 thoughts on “Bicycle frame making moved to endangered ‘Red List’ by Heritage Crafts; BMX jump cycle lane — cycling route has the mother of all speed bumps installed; Cav crashes AGAIN (+ stunning Amalfi scenery & breakaway heartbreak in Naples) + more on the live blog”
I said this on the other
I said this on the other thread but I will put it here as the story is now mentioned above: bit harsh on Dainese to be relegated in the sprint, as the news has it this morning? Cavendish lost his back wheel because he was accelerating on the white line (credit to the GCN/Eurosport team, they identified that as a possible risk early in the stage), slid out to the left, Dainese saw the gap that made and went for it, Cav clipped his back wheel as he tried to move back onto his original line. A racing incident at best, Cav’s fault for trying to return to a line he had lost if anything, I thought.
I agree it was harsh due to
I agree it was harsh due to the white line and wet conditions, but as Dainese made the primary line deviation, it was his responsibility to ensure that he wasn’t endangering his surrounding riders. This is why he was penalised. Had the sprint been in the dry he would not have lost traction and therefore probably not crossed wheels with Cav.
Thankfully the injuries for the downed riders were not serious, and the conditions probably contributed. Slightly slower speeds and the rain water lessening the road rash.
Matthew Acton-Varian wrote:
Wasn’t great for Vandrame who got a dislocated shoulder and a deep cut in his shoulder muscle requiring stitches – though apparently he’s determined to start today!
A flesh wound!
A flesh wound!
Not that harsh. In changing
Not that harsh. In changing his line and cutting in front, Dainese is responsible for not endangering the following rider.
Rendel Harris wrote:
You’re joking, right? Dainese deviated massively in a tight bunch sprint without checking that the way was clear. He deserves to be relegated and I hope he learns from it. It could have been so much worse. Cavendish did very well to stay upright for as long as he did and only take out 1 other rider and not the whole bunch.
Tell you what, that barrier
Tell you what, that barrier on the right did a sterling job of staying intact as the rider Cav bumped into slid along it. And did I see some spectators’ hands getting squished by that rider as he slid along the barrier?
Miller wrote:
I watched the slo mo on YouTube and about two or three phones were taken out!
ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:
Not in the slightest. Look at these three stills from the overhead: the first one is where Cavendish loses his back wheel on the white line and skids out to the left. In the second one you can see how far away from the white line Cav has gone, leaving a gap big enough for two riders to get through. In the third, look how far Cav has swerved back to his right, far further than Dainese has moved to his left, and that’s when he clips Dainese’s rear wheel. Once he’d slid that far off line Cav should never have tried to regain it, you can’t move over two metres to the left and then come back to your original line in the last few metres of a sprint and be safe. How can you say Dainese deviated “massively” when he moved less than a metre to go through a gap that Cav closed by coming back in when Cav has skidded over two metres off line and then cut back in?
ETA Michael Matthews, who knows a wee bit about sprinting, said after the stage:
Annoyingly, and not that you
Annoyingly, and not that you need it but I agree with you.
I watched it and wondered why Cav didn’t get fined, it was completely uneccessary for him to move back to the right, his race was over at that point.
That speed bump actually
That speed bump actually looks quite good fun!
It’s clearly a temporary measure to cover that black pipe. If this was the UK, the cycle lane would have been closed for six months instead.
HoarseMann wrote:
CS3 had something like that put in for a ‘temporary diversion’. The bumps are still there at the entry and exit points of the diverted route, about two years after the construction workers left. I often see people either swerving in to oncoming cycles or slightly losing control at the unexpected angled bump. Don’t think I’ve yet seen anybody come off, but it’s only a matter of time (though I presume it’s happened numerous times when I haven’t been in the vicinity).
The diversin itself was awful
The diversin itself was awful – going down an unventilated tunnel filled with fumes from cars – anybody with a respiratory condtion would be at serious risk going through that tunnel, even though it’s not as long as the Rotherhithe Tunnel.
They are a pain, causing a
They are a pain, causing a puddle when it rains at the west end, and an awkward large bump at the east end.
I’d assumed they were going to use the diversion again but no.
Absolutely a temp hump (of
Absolutely a temp hump (of spectacular proportions), the odd thing about it is thet for once the contractors actually put up correct signage.
Usually we get (clearly translated to English) “Cycle Lane ends”, where the only obstruction is the sign warning of it.
near us there is a cycle and footpath closed for reconstruction (will be a HUGE improvement) with signs at each end for “No Motor Vehicles” . . to close a road where it was already illegal for those vehicles.
Anyone seen this one: https:/
(edited)
Anyone seen this one: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65554648
I wonder what happened, and who made a mistake?
There’s been plenty of
There’s been plenty of criticism on here for Ribble’s customer service/ever elongating delivery times, but this is great to see https://twitter.com/RibbleCycles/status/1656569379159527424
WTF. Have Heritage Crafts
WTF. Have Heritage Crafts never been to Bespoked? Its my (totally uninformed lol) impression that frame building is having a rennaisance.
Also came here to use the
Also came here to use the word renaissance. I would have guessed UK framebuilder numbers have increased in say the last 10 years.
Ah, looks as though Nigel
Ah, looks as though Nigel/Fireman John has been turfed. Good work mods.
Care to guess how long before
Care to guess how long before the next incarnation?
Probably already happened.
Probably already happened.
NotNigel wrote:
Good point…
More BBC anti-cyclist
More BBC anti-cyclist programming
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000gn61
19:00 in
The Norwegian ‘speed bump’
The Norwegian ‘speed bump’ looks temporary. It covers a pipe that is not buried and look at the finish. Even the sign is temporary.