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I think this is down to the person on the motorbike, who admits he is filtering at 20mph down the middle of 2 lines of traffic. And is therefore unable to observe and adequately manage potential hazards.

10-12mph would be more appropriate.

IMO that would apply whether the person filtering is one a motorcycle or a bicycle.

Yes - the confusion of motorbikes and bicycles is not a surprise. Though the tweeter calling a motorbike a "bike" does not help.

mattw wrote:

I think this is down to the person on the motorbike, who admits he is filtering at 20mph down the middle of 2 lines of traffic. And is therefore unable to observe and adequately manage potential hazards.

10-12mph would be more appropriate.

IMO that would apply whether the person filtering is one a motorcycle or a bicycle.

Yes - the confusion of motorbikes and bicycles is not a surprise. Though the tweeter calling a motorbike a "bike" does not help.

Tricky one, I'd probably go for 50:50. The biker was filtering too fast to stop in time, but the pedestrian did just run into the road.

hawkinspeter wrote:

mattw wrote:

I think this is down to the person on the motorbike, who admits he is filtering at 20mph down the middle of 2 lines of traffic. And is therefore unable to observe and adequately manage potential hazards.

10-12mph would be more appropriate.

IMO that would apply whether the person filtering is one a motorcycle or a bicycle.

Yes - the confusion of motorbikes and bicycles is not a surprise. Though the tweeter calling a motorbike a "bike" does not help.

Tricky one, I'd probably go for 50:50. The biker was filtering too fast to stop in time, but the pedestrian did just run into the road.

For those of you who don't ride motorcycles, the Police Roadcraft publications, which experienced old school riders should know about and even have read, says that you should filter at 10-15mph quicker than the vehicles you're passing. When I'm on my motorbike I tend to stick to about +10mph. At that speed, you can stop in time. On a motorbike you generally see over the cars and an aware rider travelling at a suitable speed would've seen the pedestrian stepping out and would've stopped. Whether or not thatw ould've been followed by a stream of anglo Saxon vocabulary would've been down to the rider of course.

It does amaze me that pedestrians often won't hear a motorcycle approaching though.

Yes - agree perhaps on any contributory negligence for a claim, but afaik the HC is fairly clear.

However. 2023 - onward and upward.

Just discovered that my old Replay HD Bullet Cam on my helmet can preserve clips by a button click, so I can run that as well as the bike cams that came for Christmas.

Which unfortunately means I will be back to the "brain outside the head" look, when I quite dislike helmets.

Now need to get to grips with the Notts and Derbys Operation SNAPs.

Now need to get to grips with the Notts and Derbys Operation SNAPs

Good! Let us know when you achieve a real success: points and a fine- as opposed to a NIP which they later bin for 'insufficient evidence' (no rear camera, no overhead drone footage etc. etc.) when they think you've forgotten about it

Oldfatgit wrote:

Bike Register has a website that will run on any device as long as there is amobile Internet connection. So ... what is the point in developing an app to talk to the Bike Register database? Surely, the funds for this would have been better spent developing a web-based portal for video submissions, or a specific DropBox/WeTransfer/OneDrive account for videos instead?

Think you have the wrong end of the stick.  If you reread the article it doesn't suggest that ScotRozzer created it themselves. 

Here in Scotland many folks would be envious of 20mph zones.  As to the complaint - it's worse than that!  By paying tax, not owning a car, driving extremely rarely and avoiding main roads for many cycle journeys I'm simultaneously subsidising driving and making it more convenient for drivers while also trolling them with my lack of accountability, enjoyment of the ride and general smugness.

Cheaper more convenient driving OR knocking a MAMIL off their cycle high horse - now there's a dilemma!

chrisonatrike wrote:

Here in Scotland many folks would be envious of 20mph zones.  As to the complaint - it's worse than that!  By paying tax, not owning a car, driving extremely rarely and avoiding main roads for many cycle journeys I'm simultaneously subsidising driving and making it more convenient for drivers while also trolling them with my lack of accountability, enjoyment of the ride and general smugness.

Cheaper more convenient driving OR knocking a MAMIL off their cycle high horse - now there's a dilemma!

Having spent a little bit of time over New Year trying to solve the maze that is Edinburgh Cycle design standards, I empathise with that.

I've just renewed my vehicle tax £0 and they sent me the letter in the post to pay !

Also

"We're pleased to reveal over 120,000 uninsured vehicles were seized across the UK this year! "

https://twitter.com/DriveInsured/status/1608843083067674625

Paying fuel tax on a bike is an interesting concept, one the moaners haven't quite thought through...

That's the VAT on your cornflakes.

That seems to be something to do with police attitude, and something to do with reluctance to enforce by non full-police-officers - when every car could have a person with a gun in it.

That seems to be something to do with police attitude

Pfff! NYPD appears to be a bit backward. All this plate-flipping stuff is unnecessary when Lancashire Constabulary's radical Ignoratron is installed and officers become free to drive around all day looking the other way while immediately binning all reports of offences. Here's an illegal plate which I have displayed before, but which festive revellers may have missed. Non-existent OM61 JAY is on a Cannon Run Mercedes- an organisation frequented by people so dreadful that you can't believe they haven't been banned by International Treaty. Climate-burning toffs in an identifiable illegal vehicle, you say? what's not to prosecute?

Come to Lancashire, All is Forgiven!

You would just be taking it from the person who originally had it. Activity flagged so removed from leaderboards and previous placings reinstated. 

If you mean the 'Up Bonsor Drive, Kingswood' segment,  then it's just down the road from me, in Kingswood, Surrey.  And I'm going to grab that KOM.  I 'only' need to knock 50 seconds off my 1:46 time to equal Dan's KOM... 🙄

Bmblbzzz wrote:

Perhaps Strava should just create a separate category for motorbikes, cars, etc? After all, the motorbikers and drivers surely don't think of themselves as in competition with cyclists. 

No, absolutely not. If you want to compete in a motor vehicle go to a circuit or closed course for that purpose. The public highway is for transport with due care and attention to the conditions on the day. That test is frequently failed by motorists of all types that we have to pay for education, enforcement, prosecution and incarceration.
The Strava kom is only tolerated because it doesn't endanger other road users. That's not to suggest that cyclists are more competent road users, just that the size, weight and construction of a bicycle are much less likely to cause harm than other vehicles.