[Sriracha]

In case you missed it, an illuminating piece giving the Surrey PCC (Lisa, in conversation with David) views and attitudes towards cyclists. She’s not anti-cyclist, but…
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/dec/06/dining-across-the-divide-im-not-anti-cyclist-im-anti-cyclists-who-ignore-red-lights-and-drive-three-or-four-abreast-in-front-of-me

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[lonpfrb]

mattw wrote:

mattw wrote:

Lisa Townsend very much views her police role through a political lens.

For herself, she is fairly transparently quite ignorant.

.”I know it’s not great but it would never be a political priority for me to give cyclists better infrastructure, particularly when they don’t contribute in vehicle taxes.”

As any fule kno, public Highways are funded by Income Taxes paid by everyone and Vehicle Excise Duty is a nudge based on vehicle emissions, which for bicycles are zero.

The ignorance is strong with this one..

[lonpfrb]

Spangly Shiny wrote:

Spangly Shiny wrote:

Then what is she FOR?

PCCs are an attempt to provide Legitimacy by connecting an elected representative to the oversight of Policing. Thus voter surveys to sample priorities and direct the Chief Constable accordingly.

[Bigtwin]

I have the gross misfortune

I have the gross misfortune to live on her “patch”.  The state of roads policing (and the actual roads) and consequent danger everytime one gets on a bike is simply staggering.  Drug driving is endemic, as is texting while driving, driving through red lights, speeding, close passing and so on.  In the 25 years I have lived, cycle commuted, walked, run and driven here, I have never seen any enforcement of any kind, save at the scene of an accident.

[mattw]

Lisa Townsend very much views

Lisa Townsend very much views her police role through a political lens.

Four Conservative PCCs from the SE (Kent, Surrey, Sussex, TVP iirc) have a joint podcast called ReBuild which is virtually a Party Political Broadcast.

I find this quite worrying.

For herself, she is fairly transparently quite ignorant.

https://www.youtube.com/@Rebuildukonline

[mdavidford]

Sriracha wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

I’m anti the full-Sky-replica-kit Sunday cyclists

Surely they’re being responsible in getting full wear out of their 5+ year old kit, instead of ditching it for the latest fashions?

[Spangly Shiny]

Then what is she FOR?

Then what is she FOR?

[wtjs]

Locals should survey this
Locals should survey this PCCs statements for ‘I can’t interfere with operational decisions of the police’

[Tom_77]

Sriracha wrote:

Lisa: I’m not anti cyclist. I’m anti the full-Sky-replica-kit Sunday cyclists who ignore red lights and drive three or four abreast in front of me.

 

HOUSE!

[David9694]

“In front of me” carbrain

“In front of me” carbrain Lisa. 

[chrisonabike]

Because there were always

Because there were always more of them?

(From http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2016/08/)

[bensynnock]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anybody ride four abreast.

[hawkinspeter]

What about all those schools

What about all those schools that they keep building along with all of those highly paid teachers that get more time off than Gregg Wallace’s agent? I have it on good authority that NONE of those kids has ever paid tax. And then they’ve got the cheek to want us to slow down whilst we drive past – who do they think we are, some kind of priest?

Look, I’m not anti-education, I just don’t want to waste perfectly good tax money on non-tax-payers.

[Sriracha]

Lisa: David is half Dutch,
Lisa: David is half Dutch, and he talked about how terrible our cycling infrastructure is. I know it’s not great but it would never be a political priority for me to give cyclists better infrastructure, particularly when they don’t contribute in vehicle taxes.

David: Road tax for bicycles is unworkable. Bikes do use roads, but so do pedestrians, and dogs. I recently got a hybrid car and the tax is very low. By that logic, if you’re reducing what’s paid for polluting vehicles to pretty negligible amounts for hybrids and electric cars, what would you charge for a bike? How would you enforce it?

Lisa: I’m not anti cyclist. I’m anti the full-Sky-replica-kit Sunday cyclists who ignore red lights and drive three or four abreast in front of me.

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