BBC Breakfast covers the Tour of Flanders… without mentioning the winners; Tadej Pogačar: great at bike racing, terrible at posting photos to social media; Catholics v 15-minute cities; Too much Kwaremont on the Kwaremont; Ronde-up + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Tadej Pogačar uploads Tour of Flanders win to Strava... and gets flagged (by MVDP?!)
Looks like a certain Mr Van der Poel was busy on his phone last night…
> Tadej Pogačar uploads Tour of Flanders win to Strava… gets flagged
I suspect @mathieuvdpoel
— Thomas De Gendt (@DeGendtThomas) April 3, 2023
Ronde round-up: Injury updates, more Pog memes, German ex-pro stag do vibes, and too much Kwaremont on the Kwaremont
Yesterday’s Tours of Flanders were something else, weren’t they?
They had basically everything you could want from a cold Sunday in early April: a frenetic and chaotic start, crosswinds and echelons, controversy (though we could have done without the mass crashes, I suppose), a trademark Koppenberg squeeze, tactical intrigue and long-range attacks from favourites, and, finally, two worthy winners and two staggering solo performances.
(SWpix/Zac Williams)
With the Flanders buzz only starting to fade away now, and with the aim of not making it a very long day on the live blog for any non-racing fans (I’m sorry), I’ve decided to compile some of the news – and memes, there are always memes – into the following Tour of Flanders round-up.
Or Ronde-up (sorry, again)…
1.Congrats @TamauPogi & everyone from the team!! 😍
2.Thanks everyone for the many messages ❤️
3.Thank you to the people working in the hospitals in Oudenaarde & Herentals
4.Collarbone in 4 pieces. A lot of pain, but should already be much better in a few days. https://t.co/Xq5pxNLXK1— Tim Wellens (@Tim_Wellens) April 3, 2023
In the midst of all the action-packed racing, yesterday proved a day of carnage for much of the peloton.
The big pile-up of the day, sparked by Bahrain-Victorious’ Filip Maciejuk’s risky off-road dash to the front (you know, the one covered by BBC Breakfast), left several riders injured.
UAE Team Emirates’ Tim Wellens – who was set to play a key role for Tadej Pogačar later on – broke his collarbone in four places, while Peter Sagan and Danny van Poppel were among those to suffer cuts and bruises which ended their race.
UPDATE: After being forced to abandon the Tour of Flanders due to a crash, @benjeturner was taken to a local hospital for imaging, which revealed a radial fracture to his left arm.
Heal up quick Ben, we’ll see you back on the road very soon. pic.twitter.com/i644cWEtA7
— INEOS Grenadiers (@INEOSGrenadiers) April 3, 2023
Ineos rider Ben Turner – whose spring campaign was already impacted by a fractured elbow sustained during a crash at Omloop Het Nieuwsblad – also sustained a radial fracture to his left arm after going down in the crash.
2022 Gent-Wevelgem winner Biniam Girmay also went down hard in a high-speed spill later in the race, spending last night in hospital with concussion, though Matej Mohorič escaped serious injuries in the same crash.
Meanwhile, the Maciejuk pile-up debate shows no signs of slowing down, as Movistar’s Carlos Verona weighed in on the controversy, and the “lack of respect” currently in the peloton:
Unfortunately it is not only you taking too much risk in the bunch nowadays. This sport is getting more and more dangerous for behaviors like yours today and I hope @UCI_cycling starts to do something because there is no respect in the peloton anymore! 😞 https://t.co/eg49XpIU43
— Carlos Verona (@Carlos_Verona) April 2, 2023
That “lack of respect” was also witnessed up close by one fan, who assumed he was just going to have a jolly day watching the race cruise by:
Chaos!! pic.twitter.com/AAhxbVMtNr
— Dieter Vanthourenhout (@vanthourenhout) April 2, 2023
Speaking of spills, Pogačar’s attack on the final ascent of the Oude Kwaremont was so powerful that it sent this fan flying backwards into a nearby table:
This fan was so overwhelmed at Pogačar’s performance, he knocked over his lunch table!@TamauPogi had better send this man a burger! 😉
Watch the race highlights of the #RVV23 over on GCN+ 👉 https://t.co/8FSJcLL3Gx pic.twitter.com/o0kGqoTeKZ
— GCN Racing (@GcnRacing) April 2, 2023
Or perhaps it was a case of too much Kwaremont on the Kwaremont…
And on the subject of enjoying a beverage or two on the side of a cobbled hill, André Greipel and Marcel Kittel – members of the Retired German Sprinters’ Alliance – were giving off strong ‘dad and son on a stag do’ vibes yesterday:
Marcel Kittel will be 35 in one month 🤯
I swear this guy stopped aging at 21 🥵
(📸 : Marcel Kittel IG) pic.twitter.com/kiJgFqySiF
— Cycling What Ifs ❓ (@cyclingwhatifs) April 3, 2023
Oh, and did I mention Pog is king of memes?
How it started… …How it’s going#RVV23🇧🇪 pic.twitter.com/zWHWHEndtT
— Will Newton (@InsidePeloton96) April 2, 2023
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) April 2, 2023
While Lotte Kopecky is certainly the queen:
Who’s that with Lotte Kopecky?!?!! https://t.co/jBbI2LYPuq
— The Movistarlets II (@Movistarlets2) April 2, 2023
Now, that’s enough of the Ronde (for the time being, at least)…
“Stick to grand tours please”: Mathieu van der Poel speaks for every classics rider in the peloton
— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) April 3, 2023
Transport for London launches Cargo Bike Action Plan, which aims to promote use of cargo bikes and address barriers that prevent shift from vans
Transport for London has launched a new initiative which will see it working with boroughs, businesses, and the freight and servicing industry to promote the use of cargo bikes and transform how deliveries and servicing trips are made in the capital.
According to TfL, cargo bikes could replace up to four percent of van kilometres by 2030, a figure that rises to 17 percent in central London.
The government’s Cargo Bike Action Plan, which was launched on Friday at the National Cargo Bike Summit in London, will aim to address the barriers that inhibit or prevent a shift from vans to two wheels.
The plan will involve developing a London safety standard for cargo bikes, exploring opportunities to provide space, such as micro-hubs and parking to support last mile cargo bike operations, monitoring key cargo bike routes, supporting further cargo bike uptake, ensuring suitable capacity for cargo bikes on future TfL cycle schemes, and providing businesses with the tool and information they need to make the switch to cargo bikes.
> “Adrian, you’re wrong!” Pedal Me’s co-founder on cargo bikes
“Cargo bikes are no longer a niche concept, and they can be real game changers when it comes to delivering freight and servicing trips,” says London’s cycling and walking commissioner Will Norman.
“Not only do they provide environmental benefits by not contributing to air pollution, they also make journeys more efficient, and present a much lower risk of danger to people walking and cycling than vans and HGVs.
“I’m delighted that TfL is launching this action plan to explore how we can grow the use of cargo bikes on our road, to help both the environment and the health of Londoners, and build a better, safer, greener London for everyone.”
Just don’t tell Adrian Chiles…
Lunchtime Pog Polls
Do a Columbo, do a Columbo…
Oh, just one more thing about the Tour of Flanders, sir.
Where do you reckon Tadej Pogačar’s sensational Ronde win ranks in the, admittedly scary, list of blistering performances the 24-year-old Slovenian has already churned out during his still young career?
Does yesterday’s staggering solo domination – punctuated by brutal attack after attack on the Oude Kwaremont, Paterberg, Koppenberg, and Oude Kwaremont again – top his era-shattering smash and grab time trial to Le Planche des Belles Filles at the 2020 Tour de France?
Or do you think his savage Tour-killing attack on stage eight of the 2021 Grande Boucle, though the pouring rain to Le Grand-Bornand, most accurately sums up the Pog phenomenon?
A.S.O., Charly Lopez
Or perhaps you’re a bit hipster and prefer his startling entrance onto the scene as a 20-year-old at the 2019 Vuelta, where he leapfrogged onto the podium with a spectacular stage win on the penultimate day? Or what about his Strade Bianche decimation last year, or his destruction of Paris-Nice last month?
There’s plenty to choose from, if we’re honest, so if I haven’t mentioned your favourite above, let us know in the comments!
But don’t think for a moment that was the only Pog poll this lunchtime…
Yesterday, when asked about the potential to win all five monuments (he’s currently on three), the UAE Team Emirates star noted that nothing was impossible, and that “some extra kilos” were all that was separating him from a future stab at Paris-Roubaix.
Which probably explains why the Ronde’s organisers immediately starting supplying him with frites…
Tadej : “I’d have to put on a bit of weight to race in Paris-Roubaix “
Belgium : #RVV2023 https://t.co/kL58xJhFOn
— Marie (Taylor’s version) (@Briicol) April 2, 2023
What do you think? Is a monument clean sweep possible for the only rider who actually seems capable of living up to the billing of the ‘Next Merckx’?
Throwback Monday
This morning’s Tour of Flanders ‘report’ on BBC Breakfast reminded us here at road.cc of a certain Mark Cavendish’s scathing review of the Beeb’s coverage of cycling following the ill-fated 2012 Olympic road race:
Ouch. I bet that still stings.
“Records are there to be broken”: Massive numbers tune in for Lotte Kopecky’s Ronde win
Records are there to be broken:
2023:
1.030.099👊🏻#RVV23 #flandersclassicswomen https://t.co/o4e0PydAhN
— Tomas Van Den Spiegel (@tomasvds) April 3, 2023
Cyclist in Brazil dies after swallowing bee during training ride
A cyclist in the Amazon area of Ponta Negra, in Brazil, died after suffering an anaphylactic shock having swallowed a bee while training.
News outlet G1 reports the insect flew into the rider’s throat and stung him. He called the emergency services when he started to feel ill but was found unconscious by paramedics and firefighters.
The cyclist was transferred to hospital following several resuscitation attempts but passed away on March 30, with anaphylactic shock the cause of death.
Back in 2021 a US-based cyclist crashed and was taken to hospital after a bee flew into his bicycle helmet and began stinging him.
Maddy Nutt's Ribble Gravel SL — a podium-winning gravel race machine
Tom Pidcock rues “complete hunger flat” at Tour of Flanders
Last Ronde news story for the week, I promise (and then of course we move onto Paris-Roubaix)…
While the Ineos Grenadiers’ Tom Pidcock briefly looked like infiltrating his way into the Big Three after Tadej Pogačar initially put the pressure on up the Oude Kwaremont, the young British hope eventually faded before finishing a lowly 52nd – and it was all down to the dreaded bonk.
“What a job these boys did yesterday,” Pidcock posted on Instagram today. “Unfortunately I couldn’t repay them.
“It was all mint until I had a compete hunger flat, I’m amazed I even made it to the finish. A stupid mistake, but there’s always next year.”
Active Travel April Fool’s Jokes > Jordan Peterson
Have we considered the possibility that Jordan Peterson is just a gullible motherfucker? pic.twitter.com/eMdVEKXnDI
— Rusty Idols 🇺🇦 (@Cliffor18175753) April 2, 2023
Ethan Hayter wins opening stage of Tour of the Basque Country
🏆 = 💛
The perfect start 👌@ethan_hayter ▪️ #Itzulia2023 pic.twitter.com/t04K9St2IP
— INEOS Grenadiers (@INEOSGrenadiers) April 3, 2023
In better news for the Ineos Grenadiers, Ethan Hayter took the opening stage of the Tour of the Basque Country this afternoon into Labastida, launching in the dying metres of the tricky uphill finish to bear Mauro Schmid and John Aberasturi after an inch-perfect lead out from teammate Omar Fraile:
¡¡Victoria de Ethan Hayter!! El corredor inglés del Ineos ganó en el sprint y se queda con la primera etapa de la Vuelta al País Vasco, en segundo lugar termina Mauro Schmid, tercero Jon Aberasturi y cuarto Álex Aranburu.😍💪👍 #Itzulia2023 pic.twitter.com/pDmx2DBQ3J
— ⚡Maza⚡ (@MazaCiclismo) April 3, 2023
“The team really backed me, as I wasn’t amazing in Catalunya,” Hayter said after the race. “But I’ve stepped up here. I just have to thank them.
“Omar’s an expert in Basque Country racing and I only had to do the last 100 metres. It’s really nice to get this.
“I broke my collarbone in the Tour Down Under and it took me a while to come back from that, hopefully, this will give me more confidence to keep going forward.”
Careful now
And now we head over live to the Catholic Herald’s headquarters, where an anti-LTN and 15-minute cities protest is breaking out…
Thanks to road.cc reader Awavey for reminding me of this classic in the comments! Careful now…
“Isn’t the Vatican a 15-minute country?” The Catholic argument against 15-minute cities… and why they’re just like the Taliban, apparently
Just when you thought you’d heard every possible angle on the whole 15-minute city debate, in comes the Catholicism, delivering a rousing mass on the evils of convenient shops and healthcare.
Yep, you read that right. Earlier this month, the Catholic Herald, the 135-year-old London-based Roman Catholic monthly magazine, published an article titled ‘The Catholic argument against 15-minute cities’ (I wish I was making this up).
In the article, the Herald argues that the idea of providing “everything you need to live well in an urban setting” stands in stark contrast to the anti-government, individualistic stance of the Roman Catholic Church – which, famously, has never told anyone how to live their lives.
> Why is the 15-minute city attracting so many conspiracy theories?
According to writer James Jeffrey, a regular in the Spectator, the concept of 15-minute cities will “disincentivise the family unit” and punish those who have children, while echoing the worst excesses of 20th century communism, which led to “millions of lives lost”.
And, if you thought that was bad, 15-minute cities are also similar, Jeffrey says, to the repressive tactics employed by the, wait for it, Taliban.
“I’ve experienced transport being excessively controlled by the Taliban, and I can assure you it sucks,” he writes.
“Their IED campaign in Afghanistan’s Helmand province was so deadly effective that the British Army lost its freedom of movement.
“Admittedly the use of IEDs is an extreme form of traffic fines—but the principle is the same: someone else interdicting your movement. It changes everything.”
Okay…
The article, predictably, has been roundly condemned by cyclists and various non-conspiracy theorists:
Because, famously, Jesus drove everywhere. https://t.co/042Dl13a33 pic.twitter.com/ZAEcl1UOpo
— Carlton Reid (@carltonreid) April 2, 2023
Hilarious. His claim that the Taliban’s public transport policies are a cautionary tale against state-led transport infrastructure is especially sublime.
— Phineas Harper (@PhinHarper) April 3, 2023
Isn’t the Vatican a 15 minute country?
— Martin (@martyj21) April 2, 2023
However, it does pose one important question: What does the Pope – who, of course, lives in the world’s oldest (and only) 15-minute-country and, by all accounts, loves cycling – think of the whole debate?
“King of not cropping photos”: Tadej Pogačar – great at bike racing, terrible at uploading photos to social media
Is there anything Tadej Pogačar can’t do?
The 24-year-old Slovenian cemented his status as the greatest all-rounder in the current male peloton (and perhaps of the last fifty years), ratcheting those Merckx comparisons up another notch, by pulling off a staggering solo display at yesterday’s Tour of Flanders.
In case you missed it (which I’m sure you didn’t), the two-time Tour de France winner launched attack after attack on the sport’s most mythic cobbled bergs, before dispatching some of the finest classics talents we’ve seen in years to win comfortably in Oudenaarde.
[SWpix/Zac Williams]
It was truly era-defining stuff.
And, as regular readers of the live blog will know, Pog isn’t just the current king of cycling, he’s also a member of its meme aristocracy, a standing underlined by his nonchalant tweet to swanky jumper supremo Adam Blythe – just fifteen minutes before the race rolled out from Bruges yesterday morning.
However, it goes to show that 274km of chaos and cobbles can leave even one of the sport’s greatest ever talents tired and mentally drained.
While Pogačar’s pre-race tweet reminded us of his Gen Z status, he more closely resembled your auntie Karen on Facebook in the hours after his win.
In a (since deleted) celebratory post, the four-time monument winner committed the cardinal sin of image posting on social media – he forgot to crop the photo:
And not only that, Pog left his camera roll open for all of us to see, with references to David Brent and (rather aptly) cartoon King of the Hill giving us even further insight into his love of memes:
Tadej Pogačar: king of cycling, king of memes, king of tufts, king of not cropping photos…
BBC Breakfast covers the Tour of Flanders… without mentioning the winners
You’d have thought that, after a decade of British dominance at the Tour de France, the UK’s major news outlets would be used to reporting on cycling’s biggest races by now.
Well, think again.
After an in-depth discussion of the latest exits from the Premier League managerial merry-go-round earlier this morning, BBC Breakfast’s sports reporter John Watson turned his attention to the Tour of Flanders, much to the surprise of every cycling fan watching.
But nope, Watson wasn’t set to describe how Tadej Pogačar made history by becoming only the third male rider ever to win both the Tour de France and Ronde van Vlaanderen, or how Lotte Kopecky took an emotional second consecutive win in her home race, just weeks after the death of her brother.
Watson was on the big red sofa, rather inevitably, to talk about that crash…
🚨🚨 The Ronde made the BBC Sports news! #BBCBreakfast
OK, we wouldn’t know the result, or that Pog became only the 3rd person to win both Ronde and TdF!
Or that Filip Maciejuk was disqualified, but hey 🤷♂️ #RVV23 #RVVmen pic.twitter.com/kquYHrqp3O— John Maguire 🇺🇦 (@velo_bristol) April 3, 2023
So, no mention of who actually won yesterday’s races, or even – considering it’s the BBC – that two British riders, Fred Wright and Anna Henderson, made the top ten.
Or that the Ineos Grenadiers’ Brit Ben Turner was seriously injured in the crash (more on that later), or that the rider responsible, Bahrain Victorious’ Filip Maciejuk, was disqualified for the manoeuvre and later apologised.
> Horrendous Tour of Flanders crash sees Bahrain Victorious pro disqualified
Nope, just lots of references to Maciejuk riding on the pavement (maybe John is in the middle of an intense game of anti-cycling bingo?) and, strangely, “rubbernecking”, as if the riders checking on the condition of their stricken teammates are the equivalent of nosy motorists passing a crash on the motorway.
“When it goes wrong in cycling, it goes wrong spectacularly,” Watson opined. The same goes for cycling reporting on the BBC, I guess.
But who knows, maybe Lorraine’s currently undertaking an in-depth analysis of Alpecin-Deceuninck’s use of resources during that frenetic first hour in the crosswinds? I’ll check…
3 April 2023, 08:26
3 April 2023, 08:26
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Surely you mean "why is he still playing for Man U?"
No, you can't retrospectively try to edit your post, that is no longer allowed. You have to stand by what you initially post however bad your misteaks!
If Yoro has a crystal ball to see into the future, why isn't he Man Utd's best player by a mile?
His attitude is further shown by publishing a photos of himself using his the wheel knowing it is illegal. A big middle finger to the law.
How to go from clean licence to six points in under a minute One of the comments on the video is that in Belgium, phone-driving results in immediate confiscation of the car for fifteen days. I bet that works a lot better than our points system, but since we live in a car obsessed society, it ain't gonna happen here.
Yoro definitely has not learned his lesson. "...72mph in a 30mph zone, past homes and a school..." Given this sort of driving would lead to straight driving test failure, coupled with the attitude: "...he believed he was unlikely to come into “contact with any vulnerable road users”." "He was also fined £666 and ordered to pay £120 in costs, as well as a £266 victim surcharge." Given his status how long would it take him to "earn" those amounts, alongside having to pay someone else to drive him around and any increase in car insured premiums? Not long, I'm guessing. The only thing that might lead people like this to think twice is a life-long driving ban, or as I advocate: loss of taste buds and libido.
I'm always astonished when people reverse H&S principles for driving. It's been going on since the dawn of the motor vehicle age though, it's the victim's fault for walking/cycling in the wrong place at the wrong time and for not being covered in flashing lasers. I finally got on to LBC two days ago, when they were talking about hi-viz and helmets, and put my point that both are victim-blaming and that helmets didn't reduce the death rate of cyclists. It got the usual responses of "my mate's helmet shattered and it must have saved his life" and "If it saves just one life...."
Hi-vis is so effective that any SMIDSY, close pass, failure to give priority etc etc will then be presumed to be deliberate intent and charged accordingly?
I will make sure that pedestrians are missed, by not driving home from the pub while pissed!
58 thoughts on “BBC Breakfast covers the Tour of Flanders… without mentioning the winners; Tadej Pogačar: great at bike racing, terrible at posting photos to social media; Catholics v 15-minute cities; Too much Kwaremont on the Kwaremont; Ronde-up + more on the live blog”
Is anyone surprised by the
Is anyone surprised by the BBC’s coverage? Institutionally anti-cyclist, even the sports reporters.
No, and what is a shame, is
No, and what is a shame, is they used to cover it reasonably well. Since the late 90s coverage on 5 Live of the final 20-30 mins of a TdF stage. Then a weekly podcast called ‘Bespoke’ and even commentary of P-R one year…..
All that has gone…….They still do have the rights to the Worlds (all disciplines) but tend to stick them on either the website or red button.
eburtthebike wrote:
No, I’m not surprised
Coincidentally, on R4, a prog
Coincidentally, on R4, a prog called You and Yours, just had a feature about cargo bikes. Brief, with the presenter being entirely negative, but the people being interviewed did their best to point out how wonderful they are.
So you mean it was less a
So you mean it was less a feature about cargo bikes and more a feature about why they’re a waste of time (& money)?
I can’t wait for the day I
I can’t wait for the day I don’t have to pay for a TV licence because I really wouldn’t miss much about or on the BBC.
I wonder what would you miss
I wonder what would you miss now on the BBC that you are still prepared to pay £159 a year for?
muhasib wrote:
Personally I’d gladly pay the less than 50p a day (or much less spilt between members of a household) just for Radio 3 and Radio 4; I also use their website a lot for news, weather etc, plus although I’m not much of a lad for TV there’s the Six Nations coverage, then there’s the cricket commentary on the radio, the Olympics/Commonwealths coverage…compared to what I pay to BT Sport, Amazon and Eurosport just to ensure I can watch rugby and cycling it’s incredible value and that’s without watching any of their TV programmes apart from sport.
Six Nations rugby each year
Six Nations rugby each year and the Commonwealth Games every 4th year are the only two events that legally require a TV licence from your interests above broadcast by the BBC and 6N is now a shared event. It’s ironic that their share of live broadcast audience is reducing but all are still required to pay for.
muhasib wrote:
That’s the difference, I’m talking about the value of what I get from the BBC, you’re talking about the price. No I don’t need to have a licence to listen to Radio 3 and Radio 4 or use the BBC website, but as I do so a lot and have the means to pay for it I don’t mind doing so, knowing that if I don’t it won’t exist.
muhasib wrote:
Tony Blackburn on R2.
Will have a listen at the BBC
Will have a listen at the BBC WS.
Strange events at the BBC international – BBC World News and BBC News being merged, I think.
There was some crashing in
There was some crashing in the F1
Has it been mentioned? Aldi
Has it been mentioned? Aldi have a handlebar light/cam for £49.99 with a voucher reduction to £29.99.
Will be quite basic, but a good backup perhaps. Review concerns seem to be over the mount if anything.
https://www.aldi.co.uk/bike-handlebar-camera-%26-light/p/713061512217601
mattw wrote:
Quite a few of the reviews complain about the handlebar bracket. I’ve used a similar bracket that came with some cheap front light and they’re pretty bad at being able to stay in the right orientation. I can imagine a whole ride spent re-positioning the camera after every little road bump.
hawkinspeter wrote:
I glued a 3d printed mount to mine as the standard mount was crap
“The Catholic argument
“The Catholic argument against 15-minute cities” – got to be a Daily Mash headline surely. What I’d like to know is how lacking in self-awareness you need to be to write or publish stuff like that?
Quote:
The majority of catholics are
The majority of catholics are older
Older people tend to lean more right wing
Right wing people tend to hate anything to do with active transport
It only takes three logical steps to get to the point where writing an article about how un-catholic active transport is makes sense.
Realistically, this is one of the catholic church’s more sensible takes. Having unprotected sex as much as possible as a remedy for sexually transmitted diseases and famine is more in their wheelhouse.
The first three postulates
The first three postulates are debatable. Particularly the first unless you limit it to a specific region or country. As the Monty Python song reminds us, you can count as a Catholic before you’re born…
Hang on a minute – I don’t think that’s quite right. Surely “sexual mores should be dictated by a group of men who are not supposed to have sex”?
None of those things are
None of those things are debateable.
Its reasonable to limit to the english speaking world for a publication written in english, certainly in the UK it is definitely true that religion is more common in older people: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/religion/articles/religionbyageandsexenglandandwales/census2021
This study shows a clear trend towards right wing politics as people age in the 2019 general election: https://www.britishelectionstudy.com/bes-findings/age-and-voting-behaviour-at-the-2019-general-election/#.ZCrSlHbMKUk
And here is one for the right wing not being into active travel: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-social-policy/article/abs/implications-of-political-trust-for-supporting-public-transport/49AB82EF1698224EC90447B4374856DE
And maybe I was being facetious with them telling people to have more unprotected sex, what they actually say is that all the sex you have should be unprotected. Otherwise just keep it in your pants… Which is something no human in their, or your entire genetic history has managed to do… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_HIV/AIDS#:~:text=Catholic%20views%20on%20condoms,-Main%20article%3A%20Catholic&text=The%20Catholic%20Church's%20opposition%20to,preventing%20the%20transmission%20of%20AIDS.
Nope – they’re all debatable
Nope – they’re all debatable as written. This is now just pedantry since I wasn’t necessarily disagreeing. Indeed in the UK I would guess you’re right on the first and I’ve also heard the middle claim (we become more conservative with age) quite frequently.
However your first link (road.cc mangles them) only shows that responding Christians (and not Catholics specifically) in England and Wales have an average age in their 50s and greater than those than most of the other categorised religions.
Your link for the middle claim relies on an exit poll so is only looking at the voting choices of those who voted. It notes that old people are much more likely to vote than the young. So another possible – if maybe less likely – explanation is that actually there are more young conservatives than recorded but they don’t go to the polls…
The last – your link apparently relates to a US social study, not a UK one…
I’m not seeing lots of Conservatives (big or small C) cheerleading for active transport (early Boris a major exception). I also don’t see much official enthusiasm from any party except possibly the Greens (in Scotland we did get a commitment to a modest %age of the transport budget under the SNP, we’ll wait to see what that’s actually spent on). There seem to be very varied views within party groups (just look at Rupa Huq / Baron Winston…)
I do agree that the least successful suggested contraceptive method is abstinence however!
Patrick9-32 wrote:
as they age, or is it just older people. I think I’ve moved to the left as I’ve aged. Although it’s entirely possible I have stayed where I was and the political parties are moving past me.
wycombewheeler wrote:
I think all the political parties have gradually been moving right. Does anyone else remember when Labour was unapologetically left wing? Now, I think they’re centre-right. The Tories used to be centre-right and are now definitely just right (not far right, or at least not all of them…).
Patrick9-32 wrote:
Surely, the unprotected sex thing would mean that more Catholics are younger?
I married a Catholic, they
I married a Catholic, they chucked her out for having the temerity to marry someone who isn’t religious. My hatred for that church and it’s bigotry knows no bounds…..
Legin wrote:
congatulaions it’s normally much hader than that to free someone from a cult.
Surely with mention of IEDs
Surely with the mention of IEDs it is beyond parody.
No mention of any biblical reference.
Apart from Palm Sunday, Jesus did walk everywhere.
Hirsute wrote:
Well, he did drive a Honda, but he didn’t like to talk about it.
John 12:49
Hirsute wrote:
And the Palm Sunday donkey was a stunt to show up kings in their thoroughbred horses, the 4x4s of the day.
When I see shit like this, I do wonder when and where they did their bible studies.
JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote
Reminds me of Luke and his tauntaun
Hirsute wrote:
Oh, right: I E Ds
I’m just surprised they didn
I’m just surprised they didn’t go for the obvious meme
Why I don’t use the cycle
Why I don’t use the cycle lane part 347
Some very novel responses along of the lines of ‘what’s the problem’, ‘you are making it an issue’
Clearly never heard of third party liability, negligence, duty of care and basic H&S !
https://twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1642204727654883331
If you lay a cable like that,
If you lay a cable like that, aren’t you supposed to put some sort of cover over it so it isn’t a trip hazard? I mean, I have to do that on extension leads in my office so I’m pretty sure it is the same for laying something on public land across a footway and a cycle lane…
Isn’t it an offence to place
Isn’t it an offence to place a private cable across the footpath and carriageway like that?
Report it to the local Highway Authority, and you might want to consider the Blind Institute (can’t remember their proper name, but they were complaining about floating bus stops and cyclists)
Not my tweet, so don’t know
Not my tweet, so don’t know the location.
I would have unplugged it all had I come across it !
Unfortunately you would not
Unfortunately you would not be able to unplug it. EVs have a safety feature where you have to plug in with the vehicle unlocked, and when you lock the vehicle, it also locks the charger in place. The vehicle will not charge if the vehicle is unlocked, and you cannot remove the plug unlesss you unlock the vehicle.
The charger cable is going
The charger cable is going into the black box and the black box has a cable to the property.
I’ll wager that the black box contains a 13 amp plug that can be removed.
Hirsute wrote:
Considering that an electric car contains about a tonne of batteries, the charging current can be a LOT more than 13 amps. Go carefully there.
Sure, but that arrangement
Sure, but that arrangement does rather look like an attempt to weatherproof a domestic mains plug something like this.
Yes but you can also use a
Yes but you can also use a normal plug -see quiff’s reply
“Sure, but that arrangement does rather look like an attempt to weatherproof a domestic mains plug something like this (link is external).”
Ranty Highwayman has some
Ranty Highwayman has some good thoughts on this kind of thing, as usual.
“it does pose one important
“it does pose one important question: What does the Pope – who, of course, lives in the world’s oldest (and only) 15-minute-country and, by all accounts, loves cycling – think of the whole debate?”
IanGlasgow wrote:
Did he take off his puffer jacket before setting off?
IanGlasgow wrote:
I always believed that it was the Catholics that invented Mass transit
hawkinspeter wrote:
Also, one of the first internet payment banks: PaPal
Even if it’s only been 25
Even if it’s only been 25 minutes since you posted (and even if you did set yourself up for it) this post is underrated.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Don’t forget the company to help people overcome problems with paying sales tax, VAT? I can!
hawkinspeter wrote:
He’s been communioning by bike for years
I think the Pope can probably
I think the Pope can probably recognise one of his nutters, when he reads it.
And will not provide publicity.
I’m surprised nobody’s
I’m surprised nobody’s commented on the most serious problem with this pic – those socks aren’t UCI approved!
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Nobody expects the UCI Inquisition…
Brilliant to see such huge
Brilliant to see such huge viewing numbers for the Women’s Ronde, absolute class.
I don’t have the ability to watch live at the moment but the highlights available on YT show that they are just as exciting and entertaining as the mens at the moment.
Love it or hate it, but GCN making every attempt to secure broadcasting rights equally between mens and womens racing is a huge boost for parity between teh men and womens pelotons.
The Catholic story does
The Catholic story does demonstrate just how utterly, incredibly absurd are the people arguing against 15 minute cities. I’m astonished that the editor passed it for publication, as it has only had the effect of bringing the Catholic Herald into disrepute. I thought the Taliban got some of their ideas from the catholics. Anyone who thinks that that is crazy has clearly never seen the Magdelene Sisters, about the prison camps run by the catholic church for women who had somehow dishonoured or offended their family, up until the late 20th century.
Even Moses rode motorcycle “And lo, the roar of Moses’ Triumph was heard throughout Israel”
Asylums did much the same job
Asylums did much the same job elsewhere. Close to our house in London is an old asylum (now luxury flats) where the tunnel that was used to walk ‘fallen women’ from the nearby train station to the asylum was still in use in the 1950s. The tunnel was to keep the women hidden from view.
True, but it wasn’t religious
True, but it wasn’t religious thing and the women weren’t sent there by priests, and they weren’t run by the CofE.
BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP wrote:
And before that you had the workhouses (“coming soon to a city or town near you!”).