“My name’s Paul and you’re a d***”: Jeremy Vine verbally abused by impatient Bentley driver; “This is where bicycle N+1 may lead you. Be aware!”: Whose garage looks like this?; Reaction to Tour route; Bike storage petition + more on the live blog
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"This is where bicycle N+1 may lead you. Be aware!": Whose garage looks like this?
Come on, own up, whose garage looks like Jez’s?
This is where bicycle N+1 may lead you. Be aware! pic.twitter.com/wdav1ftjDv
— Jez Briggs (@Jezter1982) October 26, 2022
Amongst the impressive haul… a Moulton Super Deluxe from 1964 and plenty more modern…
This is a Moulton Super Deluxe made in the same month as me in 1964.
I ride it in the summer quite a bit. I’ll try find a better photo. There you are pic.twitter.com/3aRqIUt5Hb
— Jez Briggs (@Jezter1982) October 26, 2022
> Do you really need another bike? Find out what n+1 means
Obviously Jez isn’t the only one to have collected more than a few bicycles over the years in the name of N+1… cue the collections…
this was about as “bad” as our place ever got… pic.twitter.com/p7nU64nXzu
— Jay Dixon (@jaybovonbobo) October 27, 2022
I know the feeling well, a few have changed since this pic, swapped out a couple, rebuilt some, added some too 😁 pic.twitter.com/PDglA9hfVS
— Des@CambsCustomCycles (@CCCycles2017) October 27, 2022
Does that look familiar to anybody?
Anything big happening in Paris today?
Yep, today’s the day the route for the 2023 Tour de France is revealed… so that’ll explain Tom P’s pacey 8km around the French capital’s Bois de Boulogne park, starting and finishing at the Arc de Triomphe, of course.
We’ll bring you full details of the route as and when we have them…
Reader's bike storage petition
A quick shout-out to road.cc reader Kerry who forwarded us her petition to make bike storage pods a requirement for all new building developments…
“Everyone focuses on getting people out on bikes for leisure or commuting. But what happens when you arrive at your destination? Where do you securely store your bike? How do you charge it if it is an e-bike? I have started a petition and I would love to get it signed and shared,” she told us.
As per the petition description…
We want the provision of secure weatherproof individual bike storage pods, with charging points, to be made a planning condition for all new building developments — residential, commercial or public.
To answer Kerry’s rhetorical question, about what happens when you arrive at your destination? It normally ends up with something like this…
Or this…
Or even…
A proper Tour de France (unless you live inland)
2023 Tour de France route presentation is about to begin. 100 years earlier, in 1923, Tour de France literally followed the coastline and borders. (📷 wiki) #TDF2023 pic.twitter.com/fhu5PYgupF
— ammattipyöräily (@ammattipyoraily) October 27, 2022
Cav's on tie duty
😁 Ready to go on stage? Well, almost 😉
👔 @MarkCavendish providing some help to @blingmatthews.😁 Prêts à monter sur la scène, enfin presque !
👔 Heureusement, @MarkCavendish est là pour aider @blingmatthews à mettre sa cravate. #TDF2023 pic.twitter.com/yux1szJoou— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) October 27, 2022
The annual cyclists wear normal clothes meltdown
Eyes down for the annual worst suit in cycling competition. #TDF2023
— Simon Warren (@100Climbs) October 27, 2022
White trainers are the order of the day…Cav, Pidcock and Pog were just three of the sparkly white shoe wearers. Maxime Bouet was not…
When you have Route Presentation in the morning and a spy mission straight after #TDF2023 pic.twitter.com/NO9CeBC5im
— Peter. ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿🚴♂️ (@PBXscribes) October 27, 2022
Pogačar looking like he’ll be on someone’s shoulders belting out Come on Eileen come half ten…
#TDF2023 🇫🇷 / Très classe le 🇸🇮 Tadej Pogacar (UAD). #LesRP pic.twitter.com/vsxLXxccPV
— Renaud Breban (@RenaudB31) October 27, 2022
Time to climb... Tour de France Femmes route includes Tourmalet summit finish
Ryan is going to have a deep dive into both the (soon-to-be revealed) men’s route and the women’s later on, but here’s a quick look at the latter…
🤩The official route of the #TDFF2023 avec @GoZwift!
🤩 Voici le parcours officiel du #TDFF2023 avec Zwift !#WatchTheFemmes pic.twitter.com/A7PJNR1UUI
— Le Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift (@LeTourFemmes) October 27, 2022
If last year’s was a de facto Tour de North East France, next year’s will be a Tour de South West France, including a venture into the Pyrenees.
One mega mountain stage, a couple for the puncheurs, four ‘flat’ days and a final-stage TT…
Etape 8 / Stage 8
🚩 @Ville_Pau – @Ville_Pau 🏁 22 km ITT⏱ An ITT to finish the #TDFF2023 and, perhaps, a last chance to turn the GC upside down.
⏱Un chrono individuel pour clôturer le #TDFF2023 avec, peut-être, une dernière chance de bouleverser le classement général. pic.twitter.com/i9tWZzx828
— Le Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift (@LeTourFemmes) October 27, 2022
Here’s the highlight though…
Etape 7 / Stage 7
🚩Lannemezan – Col du Tourmalet 🏁90 km #TDFF2023🤩 The riders will have to tackle the two most frequently climbed passes in the Tour de France history!
🤩 Les coureuses devront gravir les deux cols les plus empruntés dans l’histoire du Tour de France ! pic.twitter.com/z78uapFfXu
— Le Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift (@LeTourFemmes) October 27, 2022
cc: Annemiek van Vleuten
And the men's...
🤩 Here it is, the official route of the #TDF2023!
🤩 Voici le parcours officiel du #TDF2023 ! pic.twitter.com/QPwvs91Ar6
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) October 27, 2022
Reader N+1ing
Time for some lunchtime comments…
What a set up mark1a’s got… I’m giving that a strong 9/10…
Not so sure about Wales56’s… I feel like we’ve seen this one before…
essexiain: “A few years back, I got given an ultimatum. I could either downsize my stable of bicycles which only totalled six at the time, or my lady would leave taking the cat with her.
“Sigh. I miss that cat.
“(In reality, I gave four of the bikes to a recycling charity….. and brought a new TI MTB and £4K carbon road bike to replace them…)”
chrisonatrike replied: “Similar story here but fewer bikes. And I do miss the cat. Having said that I don’t have to clean hair off the chains now. Or oil off the cat.
“The bikes were one source of friction but the growing parts bin also caused some discord!”
Cav: "There are definitely a lot of opportunities for sprints in 2023"
[📷: A.S.O./Pauline Ballet]
Cav’s had his say on the route… “Everybody dreams about the Tour de France. There are definitely a lot of opportunities for the sprinters in 2023”
By our calculations stage three, four, seven, maybe eight, 11, 18, 19 and 21 should be for the fast men…
Pog was pleased with what he saw too…
[📷: Zac Williams/SWpix.com]
“I really like the course, it’s going to be very nice. It’s very good that the difficult stages come early!”
Our in-depth look at the men’s and women’s routes is coming soon…
What's a man got to do to get the second longest cycle tunnel in Europe?
This, from @RhonddaBryant, perfectly sums up the chaotic last few months in British politics in the most hilarious way.
(And he wants to dunk @PennyMordaunt into a Welsh tunnel…) pic.twitter.com/xyNjSV2CM1
— Adam Cailler (@acailler) October 27, 2022
> Report that Wales will get Europe’s longest cycling tunnel premature, say campaigners
Cofidis will be riding Look bikes once again in 2023
Look will be back in the pro peloton next season, with French team Cofidis returning to the bike manufacturer for 2023 and beyond. The multi-year sponsorship deal will see the men’s WorldTour, women’s Continental Pro Team and UCI Paracycling Team all use Look’s bikes, pedals and CORIMA wheels.
It’s the latest chapter in Look’s illustrious racing history — its pedals saw their first pro-tour victory via Bernard Hinault at the Tour de France in 1984, and Look’s bikes powered Greg LeMond to yellow a year later, while Laurent Jalabert achieved 111 victories aboard the brand’s various machines through the 90s.
Where do Look’s machines rank in the pro peloton bike hierarchy? Are they one of the best bikes on display?
The 'as a keen cyclist myself' Halloween costume
Just picked up my Halowe’en costume and frankly it’s terrifying 😱 pic.twitter.com/cciIVucDbv
— Andy Arthur 💃🏰🦌 (@cocteautriplets) October 27, 2022
"My name's Paul and you're a d***": Jeremy Vine verbally abused by impatient Bentley driver
It’s been a while since Jeremy Vine appeared on the live blog… but the broadcaster and social media sharer of all things cycling is back with a bang… and by bang I mean footage of a Bentley driver who just can’t seem to understand that people other than himself are allowed to use the roads…
This Bentley driver in Kensington — I’m shocked. Basically if you disobey his imaginary rules of the road, he will punish you. The horn behind me was the first sign. A Bentley convertible retails at about £200k so I thought he might be a little more gracious to lesser mortals. pic.twitter.com/h6pe8m7qKG
— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) October 26, 2022
On the route where there used to be a segregated cycle lane before it was ripped out by the council back in 2020, Vine is beeped and told to… yep, get in the cycle lane…
Aside from the verbals, ‘Paul’ demonstrates a textbook piece of MGIF (must get in front) driving to race ahead of fellow road users… only to achieve the square root of zilch, arriving at the red traffic light seconds earlier than if he’d listened to Take That’s advice and had a little patience.
The explanation: “You’re in the wrong lane! […] Why aren’t you in that [left-hand] lane […] you deliberately went in front of me in the wrong lane. Get in the bloody cycle lane […] I drive how I want, you don’t own the road, believe it or not […] My name’s Paul and you’re a dick”…
Charming.
Have a great evening...
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@SVXY Oh good, the defender of drivers who kill and maim is back. Well down to your usual standard of idiocy, "it was not a criminal manoeuvre". Well yes, it was, because it was a manoeuvre that has resulted in him being convicted of a criminal offence, namely causing serious injury by careless driving. Is there any other sphere of society where one can pretty much destroy another person's life through criminal negligence and idiots will say well they didn't really mean to do it so they shouldn't get more than the tiniest slap on the wrist?
@Smoggysteve "not needed" by whom? Certainly not all infra is "necessary" - and the UK often builds stuff of little utility. Indeed little except for paved surfaces would be needed in the absence of motor traffic - we could bin traffic lights, roundabouts etc. However I note there are plenty of "I cycle what's the problem?" folks in countries like the UK... where very few people *do* cycle. I think having "mass cycling" is a good thing and that ultimately infra plays a significant part **. * Some don't think mass cycling is a good idea, or not possible "here". Or "I'd rather it was just me and my mates". ** FWIW I think it takes lots of things - different "philosophy" of public transport and space, motor traffic reduction, good enough public transport etc The simple "people just need to cycle" and the "encourage / police it better" approaches alone just won't do it, alas - which is why they have't.
@Smoggysteve on the specifics: separate marked spaces might be a good idea, depending on the numbers of cyclists.
@SVXY ah yes, it's a good job that someone has appeared again to remind us that the outcome - equivalent to assault occasioning serious bodily harm is not real crime! Or at least shouldn't be taken so seriously. Of course they weren't also "taking the mick" by eg. being drunk. They didn't mean it! It was an accident! They'll never do it again! (The fact they literally added insult to injury afterwards is just down to shock! Perhaps... but interesting what was on their mind, waiting to come out. Mens rea? Plus see lack of remorse before.) This is by someone who not only should have been driving the car with the alertness and care appropriate to operating dangerous machinery in a public space ... but who might be expected to be able to drive at a high standard. Indeed they are also responsible for training others. There appears to be a lack of the customary plea of remorse here also, you'll note.
@chrisonabike A lot of that isnt needed. why is there a need to add in more infrastructure in this case?
@GMBasix indeed - there are conflicts between "good transport design" and both institional motivations (police making it easier for themselves) but also the overall "criminal safety" brief. In a (much) smaller fashion as there's a fundamental conflict between "freedom to get around by driving" (even in accordance with the licence conditions) and public health and safety (including from "real crime"), to say nothing of costs, ability of non-motorists to get around etc. I would hope that much of "how designing for active travel changes crime patterns" could be resolved by reference to "how it works elsewhere" *. But it's another case of "change *does* mean things do not stay exactly as they are now". * eg the "social safety" design features of non-motor infra elsewhere and how police do police those spaces.
@wtjs He was not on his phone, not drunk, not speeding and it was not an illegal manoeuvre so there were no grounds for an immediate jail sentence. Not least as the government is currently releasing some offenders for all but the worst crimes as there isn't room in prison for them all now. Maybe a longer driving ban and compulsory retest would have been more appropriate for this offence
Opposing this sort of route fits with the "Secure by Design" ethos. Local police teams are frequently consulted on larger planning/transport schemes (as a lot of colloquially dubbed "statutory consultees" are). Secure by Design has a lockdown feel to it. Some of it is good security-conscious design; but some of it is somewhat unsubstantiated but nevertheless prescriptive stuff that needs to be weighed with other considerations using open eyes. They like interwoven cul-de-sacs which limit rat-running escape routes; they don't like interconnecting paths that allow illegal PTWs to escape the feds. You can see why that makes sense to them, but they don't apply their community policing head which should include community cohesion, connectivity and wellbeing. Secure by Design needs binning or overhauling. It is not fit for purpose. If the police think riders are going to escape, they need to equip and train themselves to deal with spaces as they are, not try to dictate a fortress mentality.
@Smoggysteve overall I'm with you here and the stats in from other places show this isn't an issue in the long term (eg. IIRC the Netherlands is the safest country for pedestrians). However to get there is "change". Since we don't all get courses in new infra / rules that certainly means "confusion" and "concern". After all people still make mistakes with car infrastructure, which we've had decades of very bitter experience to learn. The UK is only at the start of a transition (well, a few parts, hopefully...). Not only do people "not expect" cyclists (because few) but UK authorities make this needlessly harder by a) "building" cycle infra by mixing modes (eg. putting up signs on pedestrian infra / directing cyclists into bus lanes) and b) when making the "actual" built cycle infra it's non-standard. (As well as inconvenient and sometimes dangerous for all). Particularly it's not clearly marked. Contrast eg. NL - while not all separated cycle infra there is the same, it is normally pretty standard and clearly marked (red asphalt most places). And their road safety / design system includes the principles of *predictability* and homogeneity. So everyone knows where to expect cyclists. And they aren't likely to design a major cycling through route down the middle of a narrow / busy shopping street.
Kingston upon Thames, one of the most prosperous shopping towns, has no problem with cyclists going through a very busy pedestrian zone. I notice that the cyclists automatically ride slowly and carefully in the pedestrian area.
53 thoughts on ““My name’s Paul and you’re a d***”: Jeremy Vine verbally abused by impatient Bentley driver; “This is where bicycle N+1 may lead you. Be aware!”: Whose garage looks like this?; Reaction to Tour route; Bike storage petition + more on the live blog”
A few years back, I got given
A few years back, I got given an ultimatum. I could either downsize my stable of bicycles which only totalled six at the time, or my lady would leave taking the cat with her.
Sigh. I miss that cat.
(In reality, I gave four of the bikes to a recycling charity….. and brought a new TI MTB and £4K carbon road bike to replace them….. Thankfully, her indoors does come out to the garage that often so hasn’t noticed the replacements. ?)
Similar story here but fewer
Similar story here but fewer bikes. And I do miss the cat. Having said that I don’t have to clean hair off the chains now. Or oil off the cat.
The bikes were one source of friction but the growing parts bin also caused some discord!
chrisonatrike wrote:
So…are we to infer from this that you cleaned your chain with your cat? Who are you? Kurt Zouma?
To avoid problems when
To avoid problems when cleaning your chain with your pet make sure to align the pet so its fur doesn’t rub up the wrong way. Makes for less efficient cleaning but less damage to your hands.
I only had to degrease the cat once, but more often found something horrible must have stuck on the tyre and attracted interest.
The unloved and unused “wheel
The unloved and unused “wheel benders” at the local Homebase:
I really hate those things.
I really hate those things. But someone clearly went around telling the large supermarkets that they were just the thing…
I suspect it is more that
I suspect it is more that they take up less space then sheffield stands so was obvious for designers who don’t know any better to meet “cyclists needs”.
At least they made an effort:
At least they made an effort:
Perhaps we’ve only ourselves
Perhaps we’ve only ourselves to blame…
Mines
Mines
My current fleet. The one in
My current fleet. The one in the workstand is not mine, it’s my brother’s being serviced. Although it did used to be mine before he had it.
Hmm, spies telly in the
Hmm, spies telly in the corner, – that’s not a bike shed, that’s a lounge. I like the cut of your jib.
If I turn any greener people
If I turn any greener people will start to stare!
And to think before I sorted
And to think before I sorted the floor & lined the walls, the space was wasted when I used to keep a car in there… My wife got fed up with bikes in the hallway and dining room.
mark1a wrote:
Mine too so one or the other had to go. The bikes are still in the back room ?.
More gammon surely?
More gammon surely?
mark1a wrote:
Moved house recently. My wife was quite excited that we would have a basement to get my bikes out of the way (as, to be fair, was I). Not so pleased when I deemed it too damp for bike storage…
Dehumidifier?
Dehumidifier?
It’s going to need a bit of
It’s going to need a bit of building work to replace rotten floor timbers and get it properly ventilated. The joys of old houses.
mark1a wrote:
My wife has sometimes expressed her annoyance that there are seven bikes in a one bedroom flat, but I have a bit of a trump card in pointing out that three of them are hers…
I presume the better than a
I presume the better than a bike shop tool collection/workshop is towards the right?
Yes, the opposite wall is a
Yes, the opposite wall is a workbench. Tools used to rattle around in drawers & boxes getting mislaid until I went on a Cytech course and discovered the world of Perfolock.
Where did you buy that bike
Where did you buy that bike stand? The one that is holding four bikes next to the Muc-Off sign on the wall. It looks to be one of the most space-efficient multi-stands that I’ve ever seen.
Something like this? https:/
Something like this? https://www.santafixie.co.uk/bicisupport-bs255-4-bike-floor-bike-rack.html
KentRider wrote:
It’s a BiciSupport BS255, as quiff has correctly identified. It came from Hollandbikeshop, back in the days when €437 was not very many £££. Technically a shop display stand, seems very well made and I’m very happy with it. My garage floor to ceiling is 2.4m and the top bike is around 10cm from the ceiling so just need to be careful if you have a very large bike.
http://www.bicisupport.it/index.cfm/4-LEVELS-DISPLAY–FOR-BICYCLES/?fuseaction=skdArticoli&id=413
Gotta love bike racks. I
Gotta love bike racks. I recently had an appointment at a hospital, so decided to cycle there. The only bike racks available were not actually attached to the ground. Thankfully my bike was still there when I returned from my appointment (which happened 40 minutes late). My other recent use of a bike rack resulted in someone presumably ramming my bike with a trolley while I was in-store because my rear mudguard was destroyed and the rear wheel would no longer move. Damn those unlicenced and uninsured pedestrians. They damage my bike and walk off without a care in the world!
Continuing on from the Choley
Continuing on from the Choley New Road story, this steetview pic should be forwarded to the Councilor on why the orcas and wands might make some difference to cyclists safety.
Just signed the petition.
Just signed the petition. Thanks for the heads up.
Bicycle N+1 – not a problem!
Bicycle N+1 – not a problem!
If this unreasonably becomes a topic of dispute with your partner it’s because they simply need educating. I find a simple comparison works well.
“How many pairs of shoes do you have (Dear)
I’ll make do with one bike if you have one pair of shoes.
May I suggest the wellies?
Those expensive heels won’t last five minutes in the garden”
The above information may save your bikes, but it will destroy my marriage if my wife sees it!
That might work…. unless
That might work…. unless you have, including your cycling shoes and trainers…. more shoes than your lady does.
Ops. And no, I am not downsizing my shoe collection although I do wish she would stop calling me “Ian Marcos” whenever I turn up with a new pair.
essexian wrote:
See also handbags -vs- bike bags. I’m definitely catching up in that category…
Tour route looks brilliant,
Tour route looks brilliant, definitely a climber’s race. At first sight the mountaintop finishes on Grand Colombier and (at last, after 34 years!) Puy de Dome look standouts.
More vigilantes
More vigilantes
Do Police Scotland really care about roadcrime ?
hirsute wrote:
Is it illegal to wear a costume covered in small carbide-tipped spikes so they’re guaranteed to badly scratch their paint if they hit you?
andystow wrote:
Listen officer, this is purely a fashion choice and I had no idea that drivers often go through that junction on red. Yes, I was flailing my arms around a lot, but that’s because this jacket chafes a bit.
Looks good but probably can’t
Looks good but probably can’t afford it – so I’m off to Rob Halford’s.
“In 2022 MikeyCycling’s
“In 2022 MikeyCycling‘s street revolt started to develop into a mass movement. Seldom before on Britain’s mean streets had pedestrians & cyclists challenged the all powerful law-breaking motorist lobby.”
https://twitter.com/DeaconThurston/status/1585718635930488832
“Stopped at the Brunswick Road junction on the way home to see what all the fuss is about. It’s utter chaos — all caused by countless drivers wilfully ignoring clear signage to make illegal turns across a ped crossing. Absolutely crazy, someone’s going to get seriously hurt.”
Very loud horn too !
“Bike lane where two cyclists
“Bike lane where two cyclists have been killed in recent months does not comply with minimum safety standards, council warned last year”
No comments allowed on this story? It doesn’t say, so maybe a glitch.
More likely they’re wanting
More likely they’re wanting to take pity on the keyboards of certain regulars on here…
(I must admit, if that lane doesn’t meet minimum safety standards then none of the ones in Bristol and surrounding areas do…).
You’re right; none of the
You’re right; none of the cycle lanes in Bristol meet the minimum safety standard. I have never cycled in a cycle lane in Bristol that meet the minimum width guidance of 2m.
I think it might be because
I think it might be because the story also contains two ongoing Police investigations.
Oh dear, I just realised I’ve
Oh dear, I just realised I’ve been wearing a halloween costume to work every day since I hit middle age!
That explains a lot !
That explains a lot !
It could explain why I’m
It could explain why I’m single at least, and maybe why some drivers seem to be intent on driving into me.
Linking from the bus story
Linking from the bus story above. On the BBC.
Very very lucky 7yo, and weirdly the Police and the Bus company are investigating even though there is no number plate reported to them. Just the time and place of the incident.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
Strange how they’re describing it as ‘careless’ driving when I’d consider it to be clearly dangerous driving. Ignoring traffic lights is given as a classic example and I’d guess it applies to pedestrian lights too.
We have already seen several
We have already seen several incidents of drivers only getting careless charges for charging through Red Lights. “It was a momentary lapse”. So it does seem to be a “drive” to normalise that for motor vehicles in the same way speeding is only classed as careless in the majority of cases.
Yet cyclists would be classed as Dangerous in the same circumstances. (Speeding being going too fast then a driver / ped expects of course).
We have already seen several
We have already seen several incidents of drivers only getting careless charges for charging through Red Lights. “It was a momentary lapse”. So it does seem to be a “drive” to normalise that for motor vehicles in the same way speeding is only classed as careless in the majority of cases
Ah! an opportunity presented itself sooner than anticipated. In Lancashire, passing traffic lights at red has been so normalised that they don’t suffer ‘only careless charges’- the police don’t trouble them with any charges at all unless they actually KSI somebody (cyclists excepted)
Linking from the bus story
Linking from the bus story above. On the BBC(link is external).
Very very lucky 7yo, and weirdly the Police and the Bus company are investigating even though there is no number plate reported to them. Just the time and place of the incident.
I can state with absolute certainty what the response from Lancashire Constabulary would be if that had occurred here. If that was submitted to OpSnapLancs now there would just be no response at all- it’s simply a Black Hole. If it had been sent in a year ago, they would have said there is no evidence that the driver was confronted with a red light as the video does not show the traffic lights from the front. NFA. Of course, what they really mean is ‘No KSI = No Offence’. There was, as you will all anticipate by now, no response whatsoever from expletive-deleted Lancashire Constabulary to this offence by the driver of Kirkby Lonsdale bus UA 5013. I could have shown Porsche DS 6972 going through a red light on 22nd October, but people are pretty bored with those because there are so many in Lancashire
With pages getting this long,
With pages getting this long, how about a “back to the top” button visible on any open page?
Quote:
Un pédant écrit… actually starting and finishing around Neuilly-Porte Maillot, the Arc is over a kilometre away down the Avenue de la Grande Armée.
Rendel Harris wrote:
A pedant writes – the verb écrire has an acute accent.
Je suis désolé, je sortirais plus mais…
mark1a wrote:
Zut alors, quel embarras! Corrigée.