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How does this crap make it in to these forums.

It's obviously Lord Zakuza flexing his magic power. I have it on good authority that Lord Zakuza is in reality a magic squirrel

Do not dis the mighty Lord Zakuza.

He turned me into a newt!

Miller wrote:

> Bring your alpaca to work day at the Tour de France (or is it a llama?)

It was a llama, not an alpaca. Here are some alpacas:

No need to be a-llama-ed. Alpaca some lunch to take with us...

Teams should start sponsoring roadside camelids, then we could have Alpecin Alpacas.

That's Sean on the right, there.

Same, I add a note to the order for them to be removed which generally works

HarrogateSpa wrote:

It drives me up the wall that Wiggle send me sweets I didn't order, in plastic packaging. They just go in the bin - what a waste.

I use them instead of gels, fast energy in about the right amount

I've never liked Haribo, but cant remember the last time I got some from Wiggle in an order, I thought after their last buy out theyd kind of stopped it.

Has Sigma squeezed Wiggle out of the market? I had some Haribo in the last order I received from them.

We all know what they're for. If you're single and your deliveries are not under scrutiny at home, good for you. For a lot of us who are, they're the right sweet treat in the right place at the right time. 

50 cent gives his 10 penneth

I came to comments just for this. 52 cent

Ratfink wrote:

50 cent gives his 10 penneth

Very good sir, very very good!

Nigel Garrage wrote:

Would be great to hear more voices from the black community on this like lil Pump and Candace Owens.

Not Candace Owens, the notable far-right speaker and anti-semite (look it up: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/01/candace-owens/no-soros...), and Lil Pump aka Gazzy Garcia, the rapper who is of - wait for it - Peurto Rican, i.e. Latin American heritage?

You have got what you aimed for Nigel, it started with a discussion on the TdF incident and you have steered it towards the 'Culture War'.

Must make you very happy.

Entirely my fault and I do apologise for rising to it, but the rubbish gall of someone claiming to 'promote black voices' while somehow inserting contentious political views AND mis-identifying someone's ethnicity got to me. I am new here, though - easily done.

No need to apologise.

Nigel Garrage wrote:

Sigh, I was merely alluding to the fact that you rarely hear black voices in cycling and how refreshing it is to hear that 50 Cent's is clearly a fan. I'd love to see someone like stormzy make a comment too.

Candace Owens is a visionary commentator and has a good shot at being candidate as the first black female president of the US. Her book - Blackout - is a must-read. Lil Pump isn't from Puerto Rico either.

Btw - I'm sure Ms Owens, a mainstream Conservative, won't be paying any attention to Politi-lies, the same Democrat/Pro-CCP organisation that stated the theory that Covid-19 started in a lab was "Inaccurate and ridiculous. We rate it Pants on Fire!"

Why doesn't it surprise me to hear you were "training to be a teacher"?

Way to dredge up other comments made by me in an attempt at some form of argument. I'll blame my ineptitude in typing Lil Pump's heritage wrongly on the Year 7 Art and Design class I've just taught (as an employed teacher, shock!) - they were a handful and I am tired. He is of Columbian descent, though, so IS Latin American, Latino or Latinx as is more universally acknowledged these days. He isn't Black, hence my point. Not that I would ever confuse Columbia and Puerto Rico or 'claim they're all the same,' before you think of making such accusations.

I should've guessed this was going to turn into a consiparacy theory war. Whatever your contentious views on Candace Owens, it is funny how you wish to hear more from the Black community and yet choose an agreeably controversial political speaker, a Black rapper, another (not Black) rapper and a Grime artist, and why not, say, the fantastic Justin Williams, former USA national crit and road race champ? He certainly seems to be a prominent voice in the subject.

Perhaps let's not turn this article highlighting the funny and unexpected instance of 50 Cent tweeting about the TdF - significant i this instance not because he is a Black man tweeting about cycling, but a rapper with little connection to the sport tweeting about cycling - into a half-cocked statement on 'it's good to see black voices talk about cycling'? Because it is, it's great, but your response simply sounds like a phoney and poorly researched attempt into 'promoting' diversity while somehow pushing controversial opinions forward.

You owned him and neatly skewered his increasingly bizarre attempts to simultaneously be a raging Tory and at the same time some sort of race/gender/disability liberal, just because in his usual pathetically supercilious way he desperately attempted to wriggle out doesn't change that.

Nigel Garrage wrote:

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Let's be clear: The only reason why this story was reported, in my view, was due to it being "culturally unusual" for a black rapper to discuss cycling. If black rappers talked about cycling all the time the story wouldn't have commanded a headline. So yes, it is great to see this interest. 

And on this ridiculous "Tory supports liberal causes" bullshit, of course free market advocates want to best in society to rise up and be the best, it's how the economy will function optimally and meritocratically.

Which is the reason why the Tories have many many BAME superstars their team (here's looking at you Priti Patel and Kemi Badenoch, amongst others), while Labour has a 3rd rate solicitor in charge whose only interest in bicycles was avoiding getting prosecuted when he ran over a cyclist in his Range Rover on the way to the tailor's.

I took it as more it is unusual for 50c to mention cycling. We've had reports o from Road.cc on all kinds of surprising people weighing into various cycling related stories

Me, it just made me smile

Btw it's unusual to call villains like Patel  "superstars". As for Badenoch... who?? (yes I know who she is, but she's hardly a superstar...)

I don't get why, for some reason, Nigel sees 50 Cent's involvement as being that of a 'black rapper' talking about cycling. No appreciation for how random it is for 50 Cent, a man who had previously never shown any interest in cycling, tweeting about the TdF. If anything, surely this speaks about how cross-cutting and divisive the whole issue of the crash is (suuuuuurely, the point of this article in the first place)? I mean, it's in every newspaper and outlet. This ain't no step towards 'bringing more black voices into cycling' or any such BS conclusions.