LADbible readers talk cycling…but only to moan about Highway Code changes; “The strongest message is a good bike trip!”: Your thoughts on cycling advocacy; Desert Island Disc wheel; Wout van Aert potatogate; Zwift with Chris Hoy + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
What is the strongest pro-cycling message?
Being a cyclist is different to most hobbies/transport/sports…you rarely have to justify your existence as a Sunday league footballer or someone who commutes by train.
Yet, getting about by two wheels can land you in coffee break chats with colleagues, pub discussions with mates and Christmas dinner drudgery having to explain yourself…
Whether it’s helmet use, cycle lanes, stopping at red lights, doping in pro cycling, you’ve all probably had it explained to you at some point or other…and, if you really want to put yourself through it, hopping on social media is a quick way to hear just how many people have something to say about you riding a bike.
So what do you say back? This Twitter thread outlines why one rider thinks the strongest cycling advocacy message is the simplest — “cyclists don’t deserve to die riding their bikes”.
A hot take I have is that cycling advocacy is strongest when the message is at its simplest: cyclists don’t deserve to die riding their bikes. Period. That is the core, visceral truth of it. It is the message that speaks clearest and with the utmost humanity.
— rebecca midwest (@mcmansionhell) January 18, 2022
What about the other stuff?
Anecdotal but my parents started seeing cyclists on the road differently when I became one, when there was a human face on the issue. They live in the middle of nowhere and don’t care about mobility that doesn’t exist there. Still to them the cyclists should be safe
— rebecca midwest (@mcmansionhell) January 18, 2022
What do we reckon?
Desert Island Disc (wheel)
Things that happen at Eolo Kometa’s training camp…because Cycling is music.#Eok22dream pic.twitter.com/lTQEGMezo6
— EoloKometaCyclingTeam (@EoloKometaTeam) January 17, 2022
It’s cool, but it’s not quite performing Darude’s Sandstorm with the help of a Tacx Neo…
In November 2020 (what a time to be alive that was) Aussie pro Cyrus Monk put his quarantine time to good use, recreating classic tracks with items from around his hotel room. First, Nirvana’s Come As You Are, then the Tacx-enabled noughties dance classic, finishing with a rendition of Down Under by Men at Work.
Merckx's monster year
Eddy Merckx’s 1972 season:
Tour de France
Giro d’Italia
10 Grand Tour stages
Milano-Sanremo
Liege-Bastogne-Liege
Il Lombardia
Fleche Wallonne
Scheldeprijs
Giro dell’Emilia
Giro del Piemonte
Escalada a Montjuic
Hour Record— CafeRoubaix (@CafeRoubaix) January 18, 2022
What did Frank Sinatra sing again? It was a very good year for Eddy Merckx in 1972, was it? I think that’s how it goes…
"The strongest message is a good bike trip!": Your thoughts on cycling advocacy
Right, let’s round-up that morning musing about cycling advocacy with some of your comments…
Chrisonatrike reckons we should be celebrating the joy of the ride: “The strongest pro-cycling-as-transport message is a good bike trip! I got to exactly where I wanted, with less stress, got some pleasant exercise, could enjoy being outside, noticed some things along the way I probably don’t in a car and might even have got there faster.”
Steve K commented on the original ‘cyclists don’t deserve to die riding their bikes’ thought…”It’s very strong message, but I think where it falls down is the response becomes ‘that’s why I don’t ride a bike, it’s too dangerous’ and ‘I do worry about you riding on busy roads – I wish you’d just get the bus/train/drive’. I.e – rather than let’s make it safer, it’s ‘you’re right, it’s dangerous – people shouldn’t do it’.”
SimoninSpalding channeled his inner sub-editor: “To avoid the possibility of this being divisive I would amend the message to ‘NOBODY deserves to die on the road through the actions of another.’ I am sure I am not the only one that has been told to my face by a motorist that I deserve to die, and there have been the rare but high-profile incidents where pedestrians have died as a result of the actions of a cyclist.”
Wout van Aert sparks 'potato peelergate'
Wout van Aert has gone all big time on us. Cristiano Ronaldo represented Armani, Lionel Messi with Adidas, Roger Federer and Rolex. All the best athletes get monster sponsorship deals with high-profile luxurious brands.
That’s why Van Aert is popping up in *checks notes* Belgian household electrics brand Domo Elektro’s social media ads…pro cycling has a long way to go before it’s at the top table…
Some were more concerned with how Wout peels his potatoes…
So… Wout is doing something to a sweet potato… but what on Earth is that thing in his hand? Do Belgians use different peeling devices to the rest of us? Am I living a sheltered life?! 😅 pic.twitter.com/54wnqvtW4Y
— Katy M (counting down to road season) (@writebikerepeat) January 18, 2022
Cue aero jokes…
So quick even his peeler is aero. Something like this maybe? pic.twitter.com/2HeKYGUSCU
— blueskies820 (@craigw8844) January 18, 2022
LADbible readers talk cycling...but only to moan about Highway Code changes
Selling a car if anyone wants it 🤦🏻♂ https://t.co/bgoX1uqr8h
— Callum Mein (@CallumMein) January 18, 2022
LADbible: “A place for the people”…the Facebook page says. Stop laughing at the back. The news site “created for the youth community” dipped into the cycling world to share with its readers the Highway Code changes that come into force next week.
> Public must be told about Highway Code changes, says Cycling UK
As expected, the site’s readership was a wealth of healthy debate and constructive feedback…not. I said they moaned about the Highway Code changes…maybe it would be more accurate to say most of the comments were actually just about what they wanted to see changed…e.g. people on bikes on the road.
It’s been too long since I heard the words ‘road tax’. I now don’t want to hear them ever again…
Neither of them pay Road Tax, it was abolished in 1937. Roads are funded from Council Tax and general taxation, so cyclists pay as much as everyone else towards them. Whilst causing minimal road wear and not causing any pollution.
— Christopher Day (@IndieChris71) January 18, 2022
Another classic up next…presumably Ben converted his motor to a single file seating arrangement too?
Stop cyclists riding next to eachother on roads. Drives me mad. Single file rule
— Ben Mullard (@mullet_90) January 18, 2022
Insurance is risk based, cyclists are very low risk. When cyclists do this, they’ll have compulsory insurance pic.twitter.com/ZpWgfHHju2
— Take That, Cyclists! (@TakeThatCycIist) January 18, 2022
And, one we haven’t heard before (rare for anti-cycling bingo, I know)…
make it a law so that cyclist’s can’t go down country lanes that are either 50mph or 60..
— 👽 (@EvOLLzz) January 18, 2022
One we definitely have heard before…
The new Highway Code rules make it very clear that there is no obligation for them to use cycle lanes, and that usage of cycle lanes is a free choice to be made by a rider depending on their experience and skills and the situation at the time. You should read it.
— #99 (@HateToHate) January 18, 2022
Why do less than 1% of Dutch cyclists wear a helmet?
Less than 1% of Dutch cyclists wear a helmet, because true traffic safety is reached through engineering and infrastructure, not by covering the heads of the most vulnerable road users.
Video @modacitylife pic.twitter.com/kN6CUI3Q4t
— Dirk Janssen🇳🇱🇺🇸 (@NLinSF) January 18, 2022
Why don't Cofidis just try harder?
“There’s 21 stages every Grand Tour, I don’t know why Cofidis like just don’t work harder just to win all of them.” pic.twitter.com/l6DRmjGK1Z
— Quicklink Podcast (@QuicklinkPod) January 19, 2022
Fine, we’re a week late to this meme, but it’ll be a good reader demographic test…
I didn’t have many of our readership down as big Love Island fans, but maybe you now unfortunately know who this is thanks to her heavily criticised comments a couple of weeks back about how people should just work harder…we’ve all got the same 24 hours in the day, after all.
Anyway, if that’s all gone over your head I wouldn’t bother wasting your time looking up who she is. It’ll only make you wish you hadn’t…
Now if only Cofidis just tried harder…
From Somerset? Ride a carbon bike? Like cheese?
Editor Jack pitched this one to me as possibly “the most tenuous live blog post ever” so bear with while we try and unpack this into something vaguely cycling-related. The headline? Wyke Farms has launched the world’s first carbon-neutral branded cheddar.
Well, if you’re local to road.cc in Bath then perhaps you like riding in the Mendips? The very same Mendips where Wyke Farms, the UK’s largest independent cheese producer, makes its world-first carbon-neutral cheese…
Maybe you ride a carbon bike? Carbon…as in carbon-neutral…like…Wyke Farms Ivy Reserve world-first carbon-neutral cheddar?
I told you the link was tenuous…and no, we haven’t been paid to say any of this or been sent any free samples.
Anyway, it’s matured for 18 months under wood to bring out an “unmatched ’rounded’ flavour profile” (whatever that means)…”slightly sweet, nutty, and complex, this award-winning Cheddar cheese is everything that a Cheddar from Somerset, the home of Cheddar should be”.
If you’re not from Somerset, don’t like cheese and don’t ride a carbon bike, then I apologise for what you’ve just read…right, distraction over, let’s get back to the normal stuff…
East Suffolk cycling and walking plans "lack ambition"
Measures to encourage active travel in east Suffolk don’t go far enough, according to councillors. The Green Party at East Suffolk Council told the BBC it feels safety concerns are hindering people from cycling, and the Conservative authority’s walking and cycling strategy needed to go further.
A consultation on the plan ended last week, with responses now being considered. Suffolk Coastal Green party chairman Julian Cusack said that although many of the measures were welcome, “We are disappointed that the council’s plans for rural areas lack ambition.
“The council does not seem to recognise that people are deterred from cycling between villages or into their local town by understandable fears for their safety. The gold standard for cycling is physical separation from motor vehicles and pedestrians.”
All Points North | Go The Distance
All Points North is a self-supported, ultra-distance, endurance cycling event, organised by Angela Walker from A Different Gear, an independent bike shop in Sheffield.
Riders are able to choose their own route around 10 checkpoints. In 2021, ultra-cyclist and Kinesis Brand Ambassador Rupert Robinson finished 9th in 60 hours and 16 minutes, on less than an hour of sleep. This documentary follows him from start to finish through the magical landscapes of northern England.
Ride with Sir Chris Hoy
Last reminder for this evening’s @GoZwift ride for #DoddieAid! Starts at 6:15pm; 25km social ride. We have a cracking line up tonight-@v_pendleton plus stars from the world of TV, rugby, F1 and of course cycling too! Sign up here, all to support @MNDoddie5 https://t.co/8UZpol9tyh
— Sir Chris Hoy (@chrishoy) January 19, 2022
One and a half hour warning if you want to go for a Zwift spin with a six-time Olympic gold medallist. It’s listed as a social ride at a pace of 2.5-3w/kg up until the 20km mark when it is “every man, women and dog for themselves and a race to the finish for those with a competitive streak.”
The ride is in aid of raising funds and awareness for Doddie Weir’s My Name’5 Doddie Foundation, which aims to find effective treatments for the currently incurable MND/ALS.
Full info here 👉: Chris Hoy’s Doddie Aid Social 25km
CANYON//SRAM's cool kit
Capturing the chaos of the elements, our all-new CANYON//SRAM Racing design charts the energy the team will bring to attack the 2022 campaign.#TakeTheLead
🎥 by @ertzuifilm for our new clothing partner @canyon_bikes pic.twitter.com/y7Em7HnURn
— CANYON//SRAM Racing (@WMNcycling) January 19, 2022
Let’s end the day with a colourful new kit…
I’d be lying if I said I fully understood the meaning behind it…but it’s a bit different, and definitely catches the eye in the peloton.
If you’re joining Sir Chris’s Zwift spin then I hope you’re nicely warmed up…we’ll be back in the same place tomorrow for another live blog…
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Doesn't warrant a response as I don't understand your language.
They were riding single file when he started the manoeuvre in an electric van, the man cyclist pulled out without looking to see if anyone was overtaking him, reducing the 2m width my dad was giving them, the cyclist moved into his safety gap and reported it as a close pass. I hope that makes it a little clearer.
Isn't the joke: “You’re not a car!” "No, I'm actually an ambulance, but I dress casually out of hours..."
I stumbled across that on the last Friday. Bit miffed I didn't find it earlier
I stumbled across that on the last Friday. Sounded funny when the odd English word suddenly popped up amongst the Welsh!
Did anyone else watch the TDF live on S4C , that channel 4 in Welsh , it's free to air . Just find a YouTube commentary in English.
I watched it on SBS
A rare instance of the MET doing something right.
@genesis The team is no longer able to manage demand. Obvious solution : put more people on it to ensure that more drivers are made aware of their poor driving/law breaking and hence improve road safety for all. Chosen solution : throw away the evidence that well intended members of the public are willing to take time, trouble and expense to provide for you and allow the drivers to carry on thinking they've done nothing wrong. That should do it.
And about 3 eons too late to be relevant in social media terms.
57 thoughts on “LADbible readers talk cycling…but only to moan about Highway Code changes; “The strongest message is a good bike trip!”: Your thoughts on cycling advocacy; Desert Island Disc wheel; Wout van Aert potatogate; Zwift with Chris Hoy + more on the live blog”
And yet certain columnists
And yet certain columnists and main newspapers do seem to allow the message of “killing a cyclist is ok as they are annoying” to be broadcast out there with little acceptance of responsibilities. And then call it a joke.
To avoid the possibility of
To avoid the possibility of this being divisive I would amend the message to “NOBODY deserves to die on the road through the actions of another.” I am sure I am not the only one that has been told to my face by a motorist that I deserve to die, and there have been the rare but high profile incidents where pedestrians have died as a result of the actions of a cyclist.
I think the trick that was missed with the latest Highway Code proposals is the heirarchy has been couched in terms of responsibility, when actually it should be a vulnerability heirarchy (which should be self-evident anyway), then you could avoid representative groups such as RHA and AA campaigning against.
Most cyclists I know instinctively get this, we are more vulnerable than motor vehicles but less vulnerable than pedestrians and horse riders and behave accordingly. Most motorists get it when it comes to horses, they just need reminding (repeatedly) where cyclists sit in terms of vulnerability.
SimoninSpalding wrote:
I don’t think so. When hit we have no more a crumple zone than pedestrians and fall from higher up. And we can’t instantly change direction and jump back like a pedestrian.
marmotte27 wrote:
Depends on whether or not you wear a helmet I suppose. I have missed the campaigns for pedestrians to use helmets when crossing the road, obviously so have the pedestrians as they are steadfastly refusing to adopt this safety measure that can do no harm, and will be worth it if it saves one life….
“that can do no harm”
“that can do no harm”
be very careful with that phrase
will be worth it if it saves one life…
and that one, the government will find a way to use them against you!
Backladder wrote:
clearly missed the whole point, which was to show how ridiculous these phrases are (which are routinely used in the pro cycling helmet arguments), by applying them to pedestrians.
But we do have 10kg of metal
But we do have 10kg of metal and carbon that typically impacts a pedestrian first and at greater speeds than a pedestrian can achieve.
SimoninSpalding wrote:
This and (mainly) the speed at which we move our slightly larger weight is why we have greater responsibility. But the bike doesn’t protect us from anything, rather the reverse. So we’re not less vulnerable, but rather more.
marmotte27 wrote:
Depends how you define vunerability. A good stab is on here by looking at Deaths: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-road-user-risk/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-road-user-risk-2020-data
TL:DR. – Car occupants then Motor cyclists most likely to die followed Pedestrians then Cyclists in terms of absolute deaths.
Per mile travelled its Motorcyclists with a tie next for Peds vs Cyclista’s.
SimoninSpalding wrote:
Did the AA actually campaign against? – I’ve slagged them off myself on this estimable organ many times, but I think their main gripe here was the (lack of) publicity campaign.
Cyclists are in an odd place
Cyclists are in an odd place in the vulnerability / responsibility map. If they hit pedestrians that can certainly cause serious injury or even death, but as mentioned the cyclist may be falling from a greater height (especially on a more upright “transportation” bike). Also cyclists move at higher speeds and in many collisions (whether with pedestrian or other) this means they end up absorbing more energy than e.g. a pedestrian falling. In collision with a pedestrian the cyclist may come off the bike and keep moving until they hit something else.
chrisonatrike wrote:
Did I read some where that annually whereas typically 1-2 peds are killed in collisions with cyclists, 6 cyclists closed their lives in this way?
Captain Badger wrote:
I’m not aware of that one but it could be true. Gotta be careful on these though because you pick a set of figures then have to unpick where the data was from, how that data was “coded” etc.
But it’s true in my experience – pedestrians have killed me at least as many times as I’ve killed them. Bloody pedestrians. And their dogs / goats / pigs.
SimoninSpalding wrote:
The issue I have with this is that it becomes a little like the “All lives matter” response to Black Lives Matter, while not meaning in any way to diminish the BLM movement.
Cyclists are the ones mainly in danger so need highlighting as more vulnerable to those likely to cause more harm. i.e. drivers of motor vehicles
I was thinking about this
I was thinking about this comparison when I posted. I am very definitely not someone who argues against BLM, but as cyclists are seen in some quarters as arrogant selfish entitled lycra louts I wanted to bring other vulnerable road users along with us.
SimoninSpalding wrote:
I hate it when that happens – slows you right down until you’ve unhooked them from your rack / fished them out of your wheel…
SimoninSpalding wrote:
Vicar of Dibley:
therefore:
But, until road users stop treating cyclists as though they were less entitled to be there or to live,
It’s very strong message, but
It’s very strong message, but I think where it falls down is the response becomes “that’s why I don’t ride a bike, it’s too dangerous” and “I do worry about you riding on busy roads – I wish you’d just get the bus/train/drive”. Ie – rather than let’s make it safer, it’s “you’re right, it’s dangerous – people shouldn’t do it”.
Steve K wrote:
Road.cc. I find about 1 in 20 of my posts I can delete. WHy not permanent?
Edit – sorry Steve, replied to you in error
Yes – it’s effective argument
Yes – it’s effective argument that’s needed. Difficult to avoid the usual chicken-and-egg of “but I don’t feel it’s safe (or convenient) *now* because of all the other drivers so I’m not going to start” – from everyone.
Being able to actually show it ain’t so via *decent* infrastructure can stop that one, but a) a network of good quality infra is not considered an option in most parts of UK and b) you can fall into another “but there are no cyclists so why should we build it?” circle.
Strangely when you actually engage with individuals, listen to their concerns and show them some small changes (walk with their child to school, do an occasional shopping trip on the bike) and the benefits they can get they’re often very positive. But it’s not simple to scale that up. This is doing culture change and that’s hard (quoted this one before)!
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I think I would. To the rest of the team.
The strongest pro-cycling-as
The strongest pro-cycling-as-transport message is a good bike trip! I got to exactly where I wanted, with less stress, got some pleasant exercise, could enjoy being outside, noticed some things along the way I probably don’t in a car and might even have got there faster.
The strongest anti-cycling-as-transport message is a bad bike trip in the UK. But you don’t even need to make one. People trying to change a journey from another mode to cycling may discover it’s effectively impossible for them (too far, missing infrastructure, unhelpful types of bike, no safe parking, poor navigation etc.)
It is a strong message, and I
It is a strong message, and I agree simplest is best, but does it really cut through the rabid anti cycling rhetoric ?
When I’m reading comments in local newspapers by people advocating all kinds of anti cycling nonsense, bourne in most cases simply out of jealousy that cycling is cheaper and far more practical than the amount of money it costs & frustration they get driving their metal square on wheels around, do those people care if I die on the road cycling ?
“stop the child murder” is a
“stop the child murder” is a pretty strong message.
I started cycling when I
I started cycling when I turned 50 and had snapped my ACL. To be honest with you I was just another over-weight bloke on a bike. I started to take it seriously when, a couple of years later I was diagnosed with Type II Diabetes. I lost weight and my Diabetes is in remission. It’s literally protecting both me and the NHS.
It has also improved my mental health. Despite the idiot drivers I rarely regret going out and as Cadel Evans said a really good ride is “Close to Flying”.
yup second that, restarted
yup second that, restarted cycling after becoming pre-diabetic plus stage 1 kidney disease – WAKE UP CALL.
Newcastle diet, not as fun as it sounds, plus dropping salt in diet and a shedful of cycling sorted out the medical issues.
‘close to flying’ when cycing feels transcendental, and something I would very much like to achieve – without a tailwind.
Never mind the peeler choice
Never mind the peeler choice – he’s chopping them in to fries as he goes? That first lot will be black and manky looking by the time he’s finished with the rest. Get them peeled and into some water and lemon juice, then chop them all when you’re done!
Ref Merckx’s strongest year.
Ref Merckx’s strongest year.
Lest we forget that the legend himself was kicked out of the Giro in 1969, tested positive in 1973 after winning Lombardia, 1975 at Fleche Wallonne… so celebrating a year of him winning everything under the sun seems a bit insensitive for todays clean cut image or perhaps a bit naive.
Of course it wasn’t ‘just Eddy’ doping.. but if you go down that conversational rabbit hole, it just leads to a squirrel.
peted76 wrote:
Sure it wasn’t a squabbit?
hawkinspeter wrote:
It might have been, it was dark so I only managed a glimpse, it could have been a vole to be fair.
Does the squirrel on your
Does the squirrel on your picture think it’s being intimidating?
brooksby wrote:
He wouldn’t usually say boo to a butterfly, but that pic was taken at ‘Gandaf Corner’ and he just couldn’t help himself.
No-one has said it yet, so I
No-one has said it yet, so I will. Cycling is fun…
LADBible’s readership
LADBible’s readership consists of terminally thick arseholes who find a video of a man falling down a hole to be the height of comedy.
They are to be ignored.
srchar wrote:
On the other hand, You’ve Been Framed has been running for how many years, now…?
And to be fair I really miss
And to be fair I really miss Mr T’s World’s Craziest Fools. The episode consisting entirely of people walking into plate glass windows was an absolute classic!
I pity the fool…
I pity the fool…
Unfortunately these idiots
Unfortunately these idiots are hard to ignore when they act on their views out on the road.
Or when they vote. U can
Or when they vote. U can kinda guess what type of things they vote for.
Agreed. It’s a site for dim
Agreed. It’s a site for dim manbabies.
Okay, I don’t like to be too
Okay, I don’t like to be too controversial on road.cc (I know we’re a touchy bunch) but if Wout is going to make sweet potato fries shouldn’t he leave the skin on?
(Although I appreciate that endorsement isn’t going to pay as much.)
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Ridiculous!
mdavidford wrote:
Ridiculous!
I’m feta up with this, just brie yourself!
Stop all this arguing, I just
Stop all this arguing, I just camembert it.
Rendel Harris wrote:
What cheese is made backwards?
Edam.
eburtthebike wrote:
Very Gouda!
Rendel Harris wrote:
I was going to post a cheese joke, but we’re about to havarti
hawkinspeter wrote:
Oh well, I’ll just talk to myself then. Halloumi!
All I’ll say on the East
All I’ll say on the East Suffolk cycling/walking plans, whilst they did certainly lack ambition, I didnt see much prompting for feedback, campaigning, discussion or alternate proposals from any local party whilst the consultation was open. The only proposal I’ve seen from the Greens since the consultation closed was a segregated lane around Darsham on the A12, which frankly is just ill-thought out.
Re:All Points North: Whilst I
Re:All Points North: Whilst I admire endurance cycling for distances travelled, I think they are starting to get into very dangerous areas now. I wouldn’t want to be on the road with someone who has had less then 1 hours of sleep in 2.5 days whether bike, car or whatever other transport they are using.
Yes, on a bike they are probably only putting their own life in danger (although the person who might hit them through a manouvre they pull when sleep deprived might be mentally affected), but all that will happen is the next person will push it more and more. They need to start putting in safeguards to enforce a minimum rest time in a 24 hour period for the health of the competitors.
You are talking some sense
You are talking some sense there. These endurance events should have a mandatory limit of 16 hours a day riding.
Why do less than 1% of Dutch
Why do less than 1% of Dutch cyclists wear a helmet?
Brilliant, clear, concise and inarguable. Maybe now the helmet zealots will stop?
No they don’t when you read
No they don’t when you read the comments underneath…
marmotte27 wrote:
OMG! You’re so right.
My takeaway was how these two
My takeaway was how these two guys were so comfortable with sharing the road with cars/vans etc. No having to scan 360 degrees in case some 4 wheeled f***wit decided to close pass them. To be able to ride safely on the infra like that is a dream for the UK, alas.
“cool” is a word to describe
“cool” is a word to describe Canyon Srams new kit, not a word Id use, but a word. But then I kind of think any kit design you have to spend time explaining what it means, automatically is missing the mark.
Then again does launching a kit with a video where the camera angle cuts every second interspersed with blinking flashing lights mean you really want to people to see it properly anyway.
At least its not another fruit salad kit to add to the list, even if it looks like 90s tie dye combined with hi-viz
Awavey wrote:
i kind of think that as soon as you’re worrying about ‘what a kit means’, you’re already missing the mark.