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SAGE professor calls for road closures over Christmas to encourage exercise; Darude’s Sandstorm ft. Tacx Neo; Assos step in to save NTT Pro Cycling; Cyclist attacked with metal pole; Former coach defends Chris Froome + more on the live blog

It’s Thursday and Dan Alexander is in the hot seat for all your live blog needs
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Nov 19, 2020 09:18
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  • Bobby Julich hits back at "idiotic" suggestion that there was anything suspicious about him coaching Chris Froome
  • Wheelie impressive skills from Tom Pidcock
  • Cyclist left with facial injuries after attack with metal pole
  • INEOS Grenadiers' big new signing
  • Assos investment to save Team NTT
  • Warwickshire Police urge people not to buy e-scooters this Christmas
  • Pain cave Christmas party
  • 17% of cyclists would consider buying an e-bike if a government subsidy was available
  • Tacx Neo stars in household object rendition of Darude's Sandstorm
  • Poll results
  • SAGE professor calls for road closures over Christmas to encourage cyclists and pedestrians to exercise
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19 November 2020, 09:18

Bobby Julich hits back at "idiotic" suggestion that there was anything suspicious about him coaching Chris Froome

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Chris Froome Vuelta (screenshot) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Bobby Julich has responded to information that Dr Richard Freeman’s medical tribunal heard on Tuesday, branding it “idiotic” to suggest that there has been any wrongdoing by Chris Froome. The tribunal heard that in 2012 Shane Sutton raised a concern about Froome being coached by Julich in a meeting with Sir Dave Brailsford and Dr Steve Peters.

“I was Chris’s coach for two years at Sky. And the motorbike trip to Italy, I can explain. In fact, you’ll understand it’s idiotic to think there was anything suspicious about it when I tell you,” Julich told The Times.

Reading notes from his diary from the time, Julich continued: “It was early 2011 and Chris was this young rider living in Italy. I was based in Monaco and was working with Richie Porte down there. Sky had asked me to keep an eye on this kid, even though they weren’t sure he was going to get a new contract at the end of the season.

“Then Chris suddenly contacts me to say he’s selling everything he has to move to Monaco to work with me. From my notes it looks like it would have been late January. I was like, wow, he’s not being paid much and he’ll have to live in a box. But he was that committed.

“Anyway, what I think was April, he shipped the stuff he had in a truck and then rode this motorbike — it was like an off-road bike he couldn’t really use on the highway — to Monaco along all the coastal roads. That bike was his prized possession but the first thing I did was make him get rid of it. I don’t think he ever rode it again.”

Julich left the team in 2012, shortly after Sutton’s meeting, when all staff were asked to sign a document stating they had never been involved in cheating in cycling. The American was one of several staff, including Sean Yates and Steven De Jongh, to leave the team as a result and Julich has since admitted to using EPO during his professional career. However, he strongly denied any wrongdoing in his relationship with Froome.

19 November 2020, 09:18

Wheelie impressive skills from Tom Pidcock

Wheelie Wedesday.. the @Tompid way 😎@TrinityRacing_ pic.twitter.com/p7450blRXc

— UCI (@UCI_cycling) November 18, 2020

We all know cyclocross is great for improving your bike handling skills but even by his own standards this is pretty impressive from Tom Pidcock. It’s not the first time the 21-year-old’s shown off something from his two-wheeled box of tricks. Remember this emphatic way to celebrate a Tour Series win back in 2017…

Skids aren’t just for kids. 📷: kev fox pic.twitter.com/r5ikRocIGW

— Tom Pidcock (@Tompid) May 28, 2017

19 November 2020, 09:18

Cyclist left with facial injuries after attack with metal pole

A cyclist was taken to hospital with facial injuries after yobs threw a metal pole into his bike’s wheel, causing him to fall to the ground. The Chronicle report the man suffered serious facial injuries in the attack outside Percy Main Metro Station in North Shields on Sunday.

A Northumbria Police spokeswoman said: “We can confirm we are investigating an incident where a cyclist was injured near to Percy Main Metro station. At 4.10pm a group of teenagers allegedly struck the wheels of the bicycle with a metal pole, causing the male rider to fall to the ground.

“The cyclist was taken to hospital with facial injuries and those responsible have then fled the scene. Enquiries to identify those involved are ongoing but the incident is being treated as an assault.”

19 November 2020, 09:18

INEOS Grenadiers' big new signing

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeogheganhart)

Sign him up! You wouldn’t think footballers and cyclists have too much in common but Watford goalkeeper Ben Foster loves life on two wheels. On Monday we shared his latest ‘Cycling GK’ YouTube video and now he’s met up with Tao Geoghegan Hart for a spin. If you couldn’t care less about football then it’s also just another opportunity to look at Tao’s custom pink Pinarello…

THIS JUST HAPPENED!!@taogeoghegan is not only an absolute beast on the bike 🚴🏽‍♂️ but a complete legend of a bloke too!!👌

He even brought his Giro winners edition pink @pinarello for a ride!! 😍

New YouTube video dropping Friday afternoon 🙌#TheCyclingGK #YouTube @Arsenal pic.twitter.com/c2Coky4taC

— Ben Foster (@BenFoster) November 18, 2020

19 November 2020, 09:18

Assos investment to save Team NTT

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bmc ntt pro cycling team bikes2
bmc ntt pro cycling team bikes2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Team NTT look to have secured funding for at least two more seasons after Cyclingnews reported rumours that clothing brand Assos will help fund the €8 million operation for the next two seasons. It is unclear if there will be a title sponsor or if the team will take on the Qhubeka charity as their name. The team’s future had looked increasingly uncertain after NTT announced they would not be continuing their partnership with the WorldTour team beyond 2020. Team Manager Bjarne Riis also stepped down from his position last week.

Domenico Pozzovivo explained the situation: “It’s not 100 per cent but normally today or in the next day we’ll have confirmation that the team will be here next year.

“We’re just waiting for the confirmation and if the team continues then I’ll stay. I think it will be WorldTour next year and I’m optimistic and confident in Douglas Ryder. He is doing the maximum and it’s not easy to find sponsors. I don’t know exactly who the sponsor will be.”

As well as Riis, key riders such as Michael Valgren, Ben O’Connor and Edvald Boasson Hagen have all signed deals elsewhere for next season. Valgren will be joining EF Pro Cycling, while O’Connor and Boasson Hagen are both moving to French teams with Ag2r Citroën and Total Direct Énergie respectively. 

19 November 2020, 09:18

Warwickshire Police urge people not to buy e-scooters this Christmas

Wawrickshire Police
Wawrickshire Police (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Wawrickshire Police
Wawrickshire Police (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Warwickshire Police have asked people to avoid buying e-scooters this Christmas as it is currently “illegal to use a privately owned e-scooter in any public space including roads, pavements, parks, town centres or canal towpaths.” E-scooters are classified as Personal Light Electric Vehicles so are therefore treated as a motor vehicle. As e-scooters do not have number plates, indicators and some don’t have visible rear lights, Warwickshire Police say they can’t be used legally on the road. 

Sergeant Shaun Bridle said: “We understand that buying an e-scooter can be tempting, especially as you can get them from many popular retailers. However the law is clear.  You can buy one but it is illegal to use a privately owned e-scooter in any public space including roads, pavements, parks, town centres or canal towpaths for example. The only place a privately owned e-scooter can be used is on private land.”

19 November 2020, 09:18

Pain cave Christmas party

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crankedUP (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
crankedUP
crankedUP (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

With Christmas parties likely to be the next social casualty of COVID-19, crankedUP think they’ve got the solution. Admittedly I was hoping for a mince pie and a few pints but maybe you’re a more committed winter cyclist than me. On Sunday December 20 you can join other pain lovers at the world’s first cycling pain cave party. The event involves team and individual competitions to ride as far as you can over two, six or 12 hours and there’ll even be a live DJ set to keep your spirits high. 

Keith Williams, concept creator of crankedUP explained the event: “We want to make turbo cycling indoors the most fun and as exciting it can be using multiple connection points: music, racing and commentary, to support riders in ways you can’t in either a sportive or on the track. With technology, no longer do you need to do it on your own, let’s bring the world into your house.”

If this sounds like your idea of a relaxing Sunday afternoon you can sign up here, and if you need any inspiration for setting up a pain cave check out 16 of our readers’ best lockdown pain caves.

19 November 2020, 09:18

17% of cyclists would consider buying an e-bike if a government subsidy was available

 
Would you consider buying an e-bike if the government subsidised the cost by 30%?
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Created with Poll Maker

Research by #BIKEISBEST found that 17% of cyclists would consider buying an e-bike if a government subsidy was available. The figures come as the government is potentialy ready to cut e-bike prices by 30% with an extension of a subsidy already offered to buyers of other electric vehicles. Of 4,243 responses to research carried out in Spetember 2020, over 53% of respondents said their view of e-bikes is ‘much better’ or ‘better’ this year. The full results showed that just under 4% of people were thinking of buying an e-bike in the next six months, while 10% were considering it within the next 7-18 months.
19 November 2020, 09:18

Tacx Neo stars in household object rendition of Darude's Sandstorm

Song name??
Day 4 pic.twitter.com/4rfTDz00Do

— Cyrus Monk (@Cyrus_Monk) November 17, 2020

Just when you think you’ve seen it all someone on Twitter uploads a video of them playing Darude’s Sandstorm with the help of a Tacx Neo…Australian cyclist Cyrus Monk is putting his time in quarantine to good use with this series of videos, recreating some of his favourite songs using items in his hotel room. On Sunday it was Nirvana’s Come As You Are and today his latest creation is Down Under by Men at Work. But it was this innovative use of the Tacx Neo that caught our eye. 

Back in May we reviewed the Tacx Neo 2T Smart Trainer, admittedly without testing it’s suitability for recreating noughties dance tracks.

19 November 2020, 09:18

Poll results

Poll result live blog 19/11/2020
2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Poll result live blog 19/11/2020
2020 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Earlier we reported a study by #BIKEISBEST which found that 17% of cyclists would consider buying an e-bike if they were subsidised by the government. We put the question to our readers and the result was pretty unanimous. Any excuse for a new bike.

19 November 2020, 09:18

SAGE professor calls for road closures over Christmas to encourage cyclists and pedestrians to exercise

A public health professor at the University of Bristol has called on councils to close roads over Christmas to encourage people to walk and cycle for exercise. Professor Gabriel Scally, a member of the Scientifc Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) argued that the measures should be introduced as part of the fight against COVID-19. He also said people should spend as much time as possible outdoors over Christmas.

At 5’25” into the video above he tells Good Morning Britain: “We should try to spend [Christmas] as much outdoors as we can, weather permitting, walking, cycling. The councils should be closing streets and roads so people can get space and opening up new green space for them to be outside.”

19 November 2020, 09:18

7 bump-taming road bikes that help stop your hands and bum getting battered

7 bump-taming road bikes that help stop your hands and bum getting battered

Check out the road bike technology that reduces vibration and adds comfort

19 November 2020, 09:18

Unlicensed lorry driver faces jail for killing cyclist

Unlicensed lorry driver faces jail for killing cyclist

Herbert Wyatt, who was also uninisured, pleaded guilty to causing death of Josephine Gilbert in Derby in January

19 November 2020, 09:18

Cinelli re-orientates 2021 Zydeco performance gravel bike for bikepacking

Cinelli re-orientates 2021 Zydeco performance gravel bike for bikepacking

Italian brand adds versatility for road roaming and touring as well as urban/commuting use

19 November 2020, 09:18

Dr Richard Freeman claims he did not know testosterone boosted athletic performance

Dr Richard Freeman claims he did not know testosterone boosted athletic performance

Final day of cross-examination at medical tribunal for ex-Team Sky and British Cycling medic

19 November 2020, 09:18

2021 Tech Trends: Tubeless inserts - the next big advance in road tubeless tech? Here are your options

2021 Tech Trends: Tubeless inserts - the next big advance in road tubeless tech? Here are your options

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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33 thoughts on “SAGE professor calls for road closures over Christmas to encourage exercise; Darude’s Sandstorm ft. Tacx Neo; Assos step in to save NTT Pro Cycling; Cyclist attacked with metal pole; Former coach defends Chris Froome + more on the live blog”

  1. Kapelmuur
    November 19, 2020 at 11:17 am
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    I’d like to see Ben

    I’d like to see Ben struggling into that tiny pink jersey!

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  2. FrankH
    November 19, 2020 at 1:03 pm
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    Nice to see Dan Alexander

    Nice to see Dan Alexander following in Jack Sexty’s footsteps by not bothering to proofread his contributions.

    Where is Wawrickshire?

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    • peted76
      November 19, 2020 at 1:23 pm
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      To be fair I live there and I

      To be fair I live there and I still have to think about spelling Warwick..

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    • hawkinspeter
      November 19, 2020 at 1:25 pm
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      FrankH wrote:

      Nice to see Dan Alexander following in Jack Sexty’s footsteps by not bothering to proofread his contributions.

      Where is Wawrickshire?

      — FrankH

      Proof-reading? You’re asking a bit too much there, but he could at least turn on his spell-checker.

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  3. PPT
    November 19, 2020 at 2:14 pm
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    E scooters are truly

    E scooters are truly dangerous. I’ve nearly hit the same irresponsibly idiot 3 times, he’s young, wears black hoody and of course no lights. He crosses busy roads across traffic and doesn’t look. Why oh why are retailers allowed to sell them at all at the moment without some limitations is criminal. And yes I ride a bike most days and drive a car occasionally.

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    • Hirsute
      November 19, 2020 at 2:28 pm
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      “I had to swerve several

      “I had to swerve several times before I hit him”.

      I did see one at the lights 6 or so months back. Not sure I would have picked him up if I hadn’t been so close. It turned out he did have a light about 5 cm above road height. Best not to hit them as getting any money off them for damage or injuries to you would be a long drawn out process.

       

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      • Brauchsel
        November 19, 2020 at 7:13 pm
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        They’re all over the place

        They’re all over the place here in south London. I was mildly startled by one (unlit, unhelmeted) passing me with ease as I was doing 25mph through Kennington at dusk. I was fucking furious with another hurtling down a blind underpass in my local park at dusk who only missed my 4-y-o daughter on her brightly-lit scooter because she took evasive action. 
        At risk of sounding like the usual anti-cycling mobs, they seem to be used exclusively by complete arseholes and I’d happily see them confiscated and “riders” prosecuted. 

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      November 19, 2020 at 2:36 pm
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      Ogmios in his first School of

      Ogmios in his first School of Zen Motoring video had this little ballard for his scooter boys. 

      Can you make out that murky figure ahead?
      That dark silloeutte gliding across the tarmac.
      They call him the shadow, a steath master of the night.
      Watch as he effortlessly overtakes cyclists.
      And surprises agressive 4×4’s with his sudden presence.
      Black Scooter, black clothes, black bag, black helmet.
      The shadow, coming to a morgue near you soon.

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      • Compact Corned Beef
        November 19, 2020 at 2:57 pm
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        If people can turning eating

        If people can turning eating a sh*tload of food on YouTube into a viable career I hope Ogmios can do the same with his thing. It’s quite unlike anything else I’ve seen.

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          November 19, 2020 at 5:36 pm
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          I still watch them just to

          I still watch them just to feel calm. Hope a fresh one is in the works soon.

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          • Rome73
            November 20, 2020 at 7:49 am
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            Agree – we need more episodes

            Agree – we need more episodes. 

    • OnYerBike
      November 19, 2020 at 2:38 pm
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      I don’t think any of that

      I don’t think any of that makes e-scooters inherently dangerous – would it be any worse if he was doing exactly the same thing on a bike?

      I’m not sure how I feel about retailers selling them. On the one hand, it seems obvious that the vast majority of e-scooters will be illegally used on public roads/pavements. On the other hand, should we not encourage individual respnsibility to obey the law, rather than targetting the retailers?

      I had to replace a light on my car recently, and it was remarkable how many bulbs for sale stated “for offroad use only” in the small print. I wonder how many people ignore such warnings…

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      • Compact Corned Beef
        November 19, 2020 at 3:00 pm
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        OnYerBike wrote:

        On the other hand, should we not encourage individual responsibility to obey the law, rather than targetting the retailers?

        — OnYerBike

        My dealer says absolutely, yes.

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      • Awavey
        November 19, 2020 at 3:14 pm
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        Why would the bulb be off
        Why would the bulb be off road use only ?

        The issue with personal responsibility is are the people making the decisions to do what they are doing so in an informed manner,with kids who seem to be the biggest user escooters, my feelings are they arent.

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        • OnYerBike
          November 19, 2020 at 4:32 pm
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          Because they don’t conform to

          Because they don’t conform to the legal standards for a car being driven on the public highway.

          Some of them it’s obvious why (e.g. wrong colour for the intended placement) others I’ll admit I don’t know why (maybe regulations haven’t caught up with LED technology?) But the point is it is very easy to buy and fit accessories that are not legal for use on public roads.

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          • Awavey
            November 19, 2020 at 9:04 pm
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            I get the legal standards

            I get the legal standards part, Im more confused as to why anyone would be making them I think in such quantity theyd ever be bought to be fitted to cars on a public road that the warning even needs to be printed. the offroad only market must by tiny Id have thought.

            the only time Ive ever seen lights that werent fit for the road were sold by Hella,were for driving very fast around muddy forests in Wales/Cumbria and you needed to buy them from specialist motorsport parts manufacturers, they werent things you got just popping into your local Halfords.

      • Hirsute
        November 19, 2020 at 4:26 pm
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        People are slightly taller on

        People are slightly taller on a bike, wider on a bike, they move about more, their legs move about and there is a chance of reflectors, so overall a bigger chance of being seen.

        Shame BTBM isn’t here to tell us we should see a gnat at 500 paces by the light of a candle.

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        • OnYerBike
          November 19, 2020 at 4:38 pm
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          Fair enough. Although I still

          Fair enough. Although I still think that any argument that e-scooters are more dangerous than bicycles because it’s slightly harder to see an unlit rider, dressed in black, at night, is missing the point…

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    • Rick_Rude
      November 19, 2020 at 2:50 pm
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      I’d not be seen dead on one.

      I’d not be seen dead on one. At least being a lycra boy is sort of in at the moment.

      The trouble is you can’t have pavements full of these things and at the same time I really don’t think they are suited to roads. You know everyone claims they are having a hard time on 700cc wheels…..imagine those tiny things and having to ride near the curb.

      I would give them a miss and wait for jet-pacs. We can’t be far off.

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      • TheBillder
        November 19, 2020 at 8:54 pm
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        Seems a shame if they can’t
        Seems a shame if they can’t be accommodated though. There are people who are not going to swing a leg over an e-bike who might use a scooter. Our paths and roads have managed to cope (to a degree) with pedestrians then horses, carts, carriages, bicycles, motorcycles, and latterly cars. So it seems a bit off not to try to to find a way to allow safe use of another mode.

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    • IanMK
      November 19, 2020 at 3:22 pm
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      Is it strange that there’s no

      Is it strange that there’s no threat in Warwickshire Police’s statement? Other non road worthy motor vehicles would surely be seized if fouind operating on the roads. 

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  4. Bentrider
    November 19, 2020 at 3:26 pm
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    Not a subsidy as such but in

    Not a subsidy as such but in Scotland you can get an interest free loan from the Government to buy an electric bike.  My wife got her electric Brompton that way.

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  5. Mungecrundle
    November 19, 2020 at 3:33 pm
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    Fantastic that 17% of people

    Fantastic that 17% of people who already consider themselves to be cyclists would be interested in buying an e-bike. The real trick and way that e-bikes will push forward the cycling agenda for all cyclists, whether assisted or not, is when 17% of the currently non cycling population buy one and use it.

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  6. NZ Vegan Rider
    November 19, 2020 at 7:31 pm
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    That Pink Pinarello looks

    That Pink Pinarello looks terrible ;-(

    I’m glad I didn’t win the Giro. I wouldnt’ want to ride / own it.

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    • Simon E
      November 20, 2020 at 12:29 pm
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      NZ Vegan Rider wrote:

      That Pink Pinarello looks terrible ;-(

      I’m glad I didn’t win the Giro. I wouldnt’ want to ride / own it.

      — NZ Vegan Rider

      Not in touch with your feminine side? Frightened of something in your own psyche?

      While that is not my favourite shade but by god if I’d won a big bike race, especially a 3-week grand tour, I’d want to be seen aboard a pink top spec bicycle.

      I remember hearing on a Giro related podcast – I think it was Herbie Sykes – saying that it is only a relatively recent thing that pink became associated with girls and blue with boys.

      Not sure if it’s the photo but there seems to be some discrepancy in size between the Arsenal jersey and the maglia rosa.

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  7. Bungle_52
    November 19, 2020 at 8:20 pm
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    Profesor Scally’s call to

    Profesor Scally’s call to close roads over Christmas. Yes please. Things have got ridiculous recently. Poor driving nearly every ride.

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    • wtjs
      November 19, 2020 at 8:41 pm
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      Professor Scally’s call to

      Professor Scally’s call to close roads over Christmas. Yes please. Things have got ridiculous recently. Poor driving nearly every ride

      I agree, but we should make it clear that the very sensible Prof. obviously means that some roads and localities should be closed to all motorised vehicles (including e-bikes and other dodgy devices) for some period over the festive season. It won’t happen because much of Lying Fat B******’s remaining support comes from the crazed, staring-eyed rage-afflicted Mail and Express readers

      PS For information: no bad driving directed at me during 95 minutes riding in the Lancashire sun this afternoon. I passed through the Beacon Fell Country Park, which appeared to have changed its name to Stenners Bluff Country Park on the usual sign by the invariably closed visitor centre. This name change proved to be temporary when I saw the big TV van in the car park taken over for a couple of days by the TV people. This is such a stupid name, which could never be genuine in the UK, that I’m suspicious they were filming Midsomer Murders- although they don’t have any country like Beacon Fell down there.

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      • Rome73
        November 20, 2020 at 7:54 am
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        ‘including eBikes and other

        ‘including eBikes and other dodgy devices’ 

        Hold your horses there old chap. Yesterday I serviced an eBike for a disabled lady, fixed the light connection on an eCargobike used by a lady to carry her kids to school and loaned an eBike to an NHS nurse. Nothing ‘dodgy’ about them and they certainly shouldn’t be banned from using closed roads. 

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    • cbrndc
      November 20, 2020 at 8:37 am
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      Wait a minute. My wife an I

      Wait a minute. My wife an I are hoping to drive to N Wales to spend Christmas with our son.

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      • brooksby
        November 20, 2020 at 10:54 am
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        Why?  Did you negotiate a

        Why?  Did you negotiate a Christmas truce with the virus??

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        • Sriracha
          November 20, 2020 at 12:35 pm
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          You’d need a truce with Wales
          You’d need a truce with Wales in order to cross the border!

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    • Jenova20
      November 20, 2020 at 9:24 am
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      Bungle_52 wrote:

      Profesor Scally’s call to close roads over Christmas. Yes please. Things have got ridiculous recently. Poor driving nearly every ride.

      — Bungle_52

      Personally i encounter more road rage in the evenings and when there’s heavy traffic. Some drivers don’t like seeing cyclists moving, while they’re stuck in traffic, here in the West Midlands. No footage for police last week, but 4 dangerous passes already this week!

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  8. Awavey
    November 19, 2020 at 8:55 pm
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    Prof Scally is a member of

    Prof Scally is a member of the Independent SAGE group, thats the unofficial group of scientists who are not part of the governments SAGE group 🙂

    just useful to bear in mind when the media quote soundbites such as these from which group they represent.

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Rendel Harris 7 minutes ago

@mitsky Just checking the figures and apparently the 2026 average cost is £58,000 per year per prisoner; worth noting that is only the direct cost, you then have to factor in ten years of lost tax income from the prisoner, ten years that the prisoner is making no contribution to society as a worker or as a consumer, plus the fact that if they were the primary breadwinner very likely the costs will include benefits for their family as well. None of which should be a reason for keeping violent recidivists out of prison of course, nor drug/drink drivers who kill, but it is a factor worth considering for lower-level offences.

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Rendel Harris 15 minutes ago

@Surreyrider I ride in Surrey a fair bit and absolutely many do look like that but the point is they all *think* they're driving perfectly reasonably (as one discovers when remonstrating with someone who's skimmed one by 30cm, "I gave you masses of room") so deterrent penalties have little effect. That's why we need to strike at the root cause and actually train drivers properly and test them stringently (and more than once over the course of a potential 70+ years of driving, it's absolutely absurd that competence and knowledge in what for most people is the activity in their life that will run the biggest risk of killing people you never have to have your qualifications renewed).

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@mitsky Imprisonment currently costs over £50k p.a. per prisoner and obviously that will rise over the course of a ten-year stretch with inflation. Regarding culpability and mitigating sentences etc, of course I'm not against condign punishment for drivers who kill (and cyclists on the tiny, tiny handful of occasions when this happens), including prison as appropriate; I was objecting to the ridiculous and oft-repeated demand of MM that drivers who kill cyclists must get ten years, "no excuses, no exceptions".

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@Smoggysteve "Most would happily ride on the roads and be treated with respect by drivers". But people aren't - and as far as I can see they won't be. Not until there is a lot less driving and it's slower around cyclists, and far more people driving have "skin in the game" eg. they sometimes cycle and their friends and family do also. That's what leads to the model - which is perhaps most advanced in NL - where cycling, walking and driving are all seen as separate normal transport modes. Their needs, vulnerabilities and any dangers to others are considered. And *that* leads to "mix / share when possible, separate when necessary". But "possible" is "where your 10-year old would be safe to cycle unsupervised" - so very few motor vehicles, going slow! And AFAICS everybody - even "existing cyclists" - is happy with the result. (I dunno about a few pro cyclists - but don't they tend to have training camps in different counties anyway?)

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mikecassie 9 hours ago

Whilst a shame for any employees, their bib shorts had the worst chamois pad I’d ever encountered, utter waste of my money. Even though they were Strava challenge discount purchases, still a waste of money.

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Thanks, just going to have to suck it up. Got next week off and will take the easy, if expensive option...

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