Support road.cc

Like this site? Help us to make it better.

news

Legendary cyclist killed in collision with SUV driver; Close Pass Day met with...sensible comments from motorists; Vini Zabù out of Giro after EPO positive; 90% of stolen bikes locked; Joys of commuting; Zwifters in the peloton + more on the live blog

It's Thursday and Dan Alexander is in the hot seat for all your live blog needs...
15 April 2021, 16:52
Arnaud Dé-marvelous: FDJ make it two from two in Spain

Arnaud Démare won his first stage of 2021 over in Spain today in some miserable April conditions at the rearranged Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana. The French champion made it two out of two for FDJ at the race after Miles Scotson's win yesterday and beat Caleb Ewan, who was third.

That's another day of the live blog wrapped up until the morning...

15 April 2021, 16:33
I can make that...
15 April 2021, 13:48
Legendary Californian cyclist killed in collision with SUV driver

Legendary Californian cyclist Joe Shami was killed in a crash with an SUV driver at a roundabout in Lafayette on Tuesday, the East Bay Times reports. In 2019, at the age of 85, Shami completed 600 weeks in a row riding to the summit of Mount Diablo, a 12-mile climb to 1,173m. For 11 years and 28 weeks, he rode to the summit of Mount Diablo every Sunday. The driver hit Shami early on Tuesday morning and despite an off-duty nurse's care, police confirmed the cyclist died in hospital later that day.

 Friend and local rider Al Kalin told the paper how sorely missed he will be in the local community. "Eighty-seven years young, and just an amazing cycling ambassador," Kalin said. "He was the friendliest guy, and so helpful on so many levels. He was a very good friend."

15 April 2021, 14:04
Androni Giocattoli–Sidermec earn late call up to Giro d'Italia after Vini Zabù voluntarily withdraw

Good news for fans of the team managed by Gianni Savio who love a sponsor or 35...Androni Giocattoli–Sidermec will be back at the Giro next month. Vini Zabù–Brado–KTM withdrew this morning out of "love for the sport" after one of their riders tested positive for EPO. 

Bad news for Nairo Quintana fans...

15 April 2021, 12:47
José Manuel Díaz wins stage five of Presidential Tour of Tukey

What a grind that final climb was... José Manuel Díaz takes the win but arguably more eye-catching was Jay Vine in second. The 25-year-old Aussie is at the first race for his new team Alpecin-Fenix this week having earned himself a contract by winning the Zwift Academy finals last November. Could we see more riders come into the professional road racing ranks through Zwift in the future?

15 April 2021, 11:19
More on the close pass comments

Some of you have fairly pointed out that Joanna Ball's comment about fixing potholes isn't quite the common sense solution I said it was...Fair enough, granted, fixing potholes doesn't help out cyclists if it means drivers expect us to ride in the gutter...

What caught my eye was someone who hadn't been triggered into screaming 'road tax', two abreast or "lycra lout" by the police asking them to give us space. Perhaps I should pass the common sense crown on to Jill Lloyd Eccleston who wrote: "When I took my driving test in 1976, the instructor always told me to pass bikes with enough room for the bike to fall over. Have done so ever since."

15 April 2021, 11:04
Velobici partners with Factor for new performance cycle clothing range
Factor x Velobici performance range

Velobici and Factor Bikes have come together to create a new performance clothing range. Focusing on two colourways, grey and red, the kit uses "cutting edge fabrics" and has a heritage inspired design which will come out of Leicestershire via Velobici.

For every sale, a percentage of profits will be donated to mental health charities around the world and off-bike clothing is coming soon too. As for the new range, the jerseys are lightweight and use a high-wicking fabric, while the black bib shorts come in a mild compression fit.

15 April 2021, 10:48
Vini Zabù out of Giro after positive test

One of the Italian teams given a wildcard spot at the Giro d'Italia, Vini Zabù, have withdrawn from the race after Matteo De Bonis' positive test for EPO. The team has self-suspended itself from racing and said the withdrawal was out of their love for the sport. 

"The team and the main sponsor Vini Zabù have decided to give an important message to the world of cycling, to teach those athletes who still think they can take shortcuts by cheating," a team statement said. "The team has agreed with its main sponsor not to participate in the Giro d'Italia, despite having demonstrated to the competent bodies that it has taken the most diligent measures to combat doping.

"Our decision not to participate in the Giro d'Italia is intended to underline the damage that the unlawful conduct of an individual can cause to the entire team, with devastating effects on those who, instead, put their best efforts into enabling cyclists to compete."

15 April 2021, 10:13
Cycling with invisible illness
Cycling with invisible illness jersey

Sam Gray got in touch to share his experience of using cycling to recover from Crohn's disease. Having suffered symptoms for years but hidden them from friends, family and doctors through fear and embarrassment, he was hospitalised last year. While in hospital Sam promised himself to focus on his recovery by taking up cycling and raising awareness of the invisible chronic condition.

Sam's Instagram account 'Cycling with Chron's' documents his journey to now being in a position to take on his first 100-mile ride in July, one year on from the diagnosis. He has also designed a jersey that will raise money for Crohn's and Colitis UK and mental health charity Mind.

The jersey is designed to "turn the 'charity jersey' on its head and create something genuinely wearable that also does good, and helps make invisible illness, whether it's mental or physical, visible," he explained.

15 April 2021, 09:40
Study finds 90% of stolen bikes were locked
Locked bicycle (copyright Simon MacMichael)

An AlterLock study looking at bike thefts in the UK, Germany and the Netherlands found that 90 per cent of cyclists had their cycles locked when they were taken. The survey of 1,500 people also found that more than half of cyclists had experienced bike theft, although the UK figure of 47 per cent was significantly lower than the 64 per cent of Dutch cyclists and 65 per cent of German cyclists who had experienced the crime. Of those figures, 35 per cent had been the victims of bike theft themselves, while 24 per cent knew a family member or friend who had a bike stolen.

AlterLock bike theft stats
15 April 2021, 08:50
Joys of commuting
15 April 2021, 07:41
Close Pass Day met with...sensible comments from motorists

What's going on here? Surely not some sensible comments being left under a police close pass campaign...The last time Gloucestershire Constabulary shared one of these posts they were inundated with anti-cyclist replies. 'Road tax', red light jumping, riding two abreast and all the other usual suspects...But not today. Well, not quite as much today...

Top comment from Joanna Ball: "What would help drivers and cyclists alike is if all the potholes to the sides of roads were fixed. Many times cyclists have to move further out into road so as not to hit pot hole and be flipped off bike. They could then cycle closer to path and be less of a danger to drivers when they are passing.

"Lots of bad cyclists as there are lots of bad drivers. Neither is totally at fault. Make more cycle lanes, widen roads and make paths thinner. Loads of paths too big than is needed but no cycle path. Cyclist have choice of ride on dangerous potholed road or path." What are you doing bringing common sense and reasonable solutions to the comments, Joanna?

And it wasn't just a one-off either...Mickey Riordan said: "Cyclist are cycling considerably more in the centre of the road to avoid pothole like motorists have to, simple make the roads safe for everyone, mend all the potholes."

Dave Lucas added: "Can't we just take some of the unused paths and turn them into cycle routes. Hardly anyone walks on paths these days."

We even had someone say they prefer overtaking cyclists riding two abreast...I'm going to go and have a lie down.

Dan joined road.cc in 2020, and spent most of his first year (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. At the start of 2022 he took on the role of news editor. Before joining road.cc, Dan wrote about various sports, including football and boxing for the Daily Express, and covered the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Part of the generation inspired by the 2012 Olympics, Dan has been 'enjoying' life on two wheels ever since and spends his weekends making bonk-induced trips to the petrol stations of the south of England.

Add new comment

46 comments

Avatar
Gus T | 3 years ago
1 like

Re Close Pass initiative, have a look at the Facebook thread set up about this, Lancashire Police have devolved their contribution to the "Road Safety Initiative" who are more concerned with highlighting blindsopts on large vehicles and victim blaming than close passess. 

Avatar
mdavidford | 3 years ago
0 likes

Quote:

"Oh my goodness - that was torture!"

Well there's always the option of muting the commentary...

Avatar
CXR94Di2 | 3 years ago
3 likes

The 1.5 metres should be measured from the handlebar end, not the wheels. That effectively reduces permissible gap to just over a metre.

Use the standard highway code, move completely over to the other side of the white line when passing a cyclist

Avatar
IanMK | 3 years ago
2 likes

I thought I would see what TVP were doing on close pass day. Apparently they're a little too preoccupied with some funeral. However, I did find this post.
I would have thought that hostile vehicle mitigation should be everwhere not just Windsor

Avatar
mdavidford replied to IanMK | 3 years ago
1 like

Quote:

Hostile vehicle mitigation measures remain in place...

...and are permanently installed...

Doesn't the second part make the first rather superfluous?

Avatar
OnYerBike replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
1 like

I've no idea about the ones in Windsor, but I know in some places they are permanently installed but not always in operation (e.g. barriers that can be closed; bollards that can be raised).

Drivers (and possibly other road users) therefore may need to choose a different route and/or be unable to access certain locations when they are in operation.

Avatar
Hirsute replied to OnYerBike | 3 years ago
1 like

Or stealing david9694 's image

//www.kentonline.co.uk/_media/img/750x0/2KL0QOJLEXE6ZPTCMGFO.jpg)

Avatar
mdavidford replied to OnYerBike | 3 years ago
0 likes

Fair enough. If that's what they meant, though, it would have made more sense to say that they remain 'active' or 'in operation', rather than 'in place'.

Avatar
brooksby | 3 years ago
9 likes

Quote:

"When I took my driving test in 1976, the instructor always told me to pass bikes with enough room for the bike to fall over. Have done so ever since."

I think this one is the best piece of advice; it is how I also drive, and is probably the core advice that should be handed out on all close pass operations.

Q: If that bike you're intending to pass fell over right now, would you run over the cyclist? 

A: Yes - you are too close.

A: No - excellent!

Avatar
andystow replied to brooksby | 3 years ago
8 likes

Applies similarly to lots of driving situations.

"If that car in front of you stopped right now..."

"If that child ran into the road right now..."

Avatar
brooksby replied to andystow | 3 years ago
2 likes

Exactly.

Avatar
PRSboy replied to brooksby | 3 years ago
9 likes

I remember my toddler daughter falling off her bike as she rode down the pavement in our village and sprawling onto the road in front of a car.  Thank goodness the driver was on the ball driving sensibly and avoided her without drama.  However, the unfolding scene haunts me to this day, 15 yrs later.

Avatar
mdavidford | 3 years ago
9 likes

The best way to prevent there being potholes where cyclists want to ride would be to create segregated and protected space, so that the vehicles that cause the potholes aren't driving in it.

Avatar
visionset replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
3 likes

I do so wish this was true, but it is shoddy build and weather that causes potholes, traffic just accelerates the demise.  I think lorries and buses etc do most of this.  But for sure it ain't bikes!
At the moment, cycle path construction is attrocious and can't even cope with tree root growth.  You also need a special roller for that nice fast surface.  Very rarely is that used.  Though times are a changing...

Avatar
mdavidford replied to visionset | 3 years ago
3 likes

Well, OK, it won't entirely prevent potholes - there'll still be degredation over time - nothing's immune from entropy (or cheapskating). But it'd still generally be a massive improvement over fixing the holes that are there only to then roll massive metal boxes over them day and night until they fall apart again.

Avatar
brooksby replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
0 likes

mdavidford wrote:

... nothing's immune from entropy ... 

Where's the Pharos Project when you need it...? 

Avatar
Hirsute | 3 years ago
1 like

10% told the truth and the other 90 % were economical with the truth ?

Avatar
OnYerBike replied to Hirsute | 3 years ago
1 like

You think most bikes that were stolen were not locked?

Avatar
Hirsute replied to OnYerBike | 3 years ago
0 likes

I was more wondering of the ones that said they were locked, how many were actually locked.

Avatar
OnYerBike replied to Hirsute | 3 years ago
3 likes

Isn't that the same thing?

Avatar
Sriracha replied to Hirsute | 3 years ago
0 likes

The unit measured is "experienced a bike theft", which seems to include simply knowing someone whose bike was stolen. So it's difficult to know what to make of the figures, could be one famous person's locked up bike was stolen and 90% of people in the survey knew of it.

Avatar
HarrogateSpa | 3 years ago
5 likes

Top comment from Joanna Ball: "What would help drivers and cyclists alike is if all the potholes to the sides of roads were fixed. Many times cyclists have to move further out into road so as not to hit pot hole and be flipped off bike. They could then cycle closer to path and be less of a danger to drivers when they are passing.

I find it astonishing that DA sees common sense and reasonable solutions in that.

1) No one is in favour of potholes, but 62% of UK adults will never know if there are potholes on the road or not, because they are put off cycling on the road by motor vehicles.

The potholes chestnut always gets brought up as a reason not to build safe infrastructure, not to put in LTNs etc, but it is NOT the solution to getting more people to bike around town.

2) As others have pointed out, she wants cyclists to ride in the gutter - and if you do that, you'll get a stream of dangerous close passes when there's oncoming traffic.

Avatar
efail | 3 years ago
6 likes

The line the police are using for their 1.5m is drawn along the track of the wheel. Is that correct? Surely it should be from the outer point of the cyclist. I'm open to correction.

Avatar
brooksby replied to efail | 3 years ago
3 likes

It would put you at a significant disadvantage if you were riding a MTB with wide bars... 

Avatar
wycombewheeler replied to brooksby | 3 years ago
0 likes

brooksby wrote:

It would put you at a significant disadvantage if you were riding a MTB with wide bars... 

how wide are your bars really? widest I can find are 760mm. 380mm from centre to end, and therefore over 1.1m from the car.

Avatar
OnYerBike replied to efail | 3 years ago
4 likes

It looks to me like that they are using the mat the way it was designed to be used. As I understand it this isn't a line the Police have drawn, but a standard mat issued by Cycling UK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0iXW-jtljU).

I would say this is therefore at odds with the posters they are holding, which I agree suggest 1.5m from the edge of the cyclist.

Given that none of this is in law, I don't think there's a hard-and-fast "right" answer. I think 1.5m from the edge of the cyclist makes more sense and is more logically consistent, but 1.5m from the wheel track would still be an improvement compared to many overtakes I have experienced!

Avatar
Tired of the tr... replied to OnYerBike | 3 years ago
5 likes

The Cycling UK mat as been harshly criticised for writing "0.75m" from the kerb, which gives the wrong impression that this is where cyclists should be.

Police Scotland decided not to use the Cycling UK mat but have their own version without the 0.75m specified.

Why Cycling UK put the value 0.75m on it instead of just focussing on the overtaking distance of 1.5m is a big mystery, when they were criticised for it they became very aggressive on social media during their funding campaign, and a lot of people I know decided not to contribute to their crowdfunder.

Avatar
OnYerBike replied to Tired of the trolls here and gone cycling instead | 3 years ago
0 likes

Yeah, I largely agree with you - the original commentor to whom I was replying appeared to blame the Police and I was just pointing out that Cycling UK designed the mat (although you make a fair point that the police force in question could have decided not to use it!).

And I understand where you're coming from regarding the 75cm thing. I think the point of it was that a cyclist shouldn't be, and shouldn't be expected to, hug the kerb. 75cm from the kerb is a reasonable "secondary" position in most cases - although I appreciate in many situations a primary position would be better!

Avatar
Tired of the tr... replied to OnYerBike | 3 years ago
2 likes

Sure, 0.75m is a reasonable secondary position. The point was just that writing this value explicitly onto the mat creates a dangerous misconception. I'm fine with placing the line for the bicycle there, just dont put a definite number on it.

A police officer in Edinburgh explained at a public event that they make a point of explaining to the motorists that cyclists can chose varying distances from the kerb depending on circumstances. Having a definite number written on the map would contradict or weaken that point.

It is still a mystery to me why Cycling UK simply did not delete this particular value, everything else on the mat can be left as it is, just don't write "0.75m".

Avatar
Tired of the tr... replied to Tired of the trolls here and gone cycling instead | 3 years ago
2 likes

Pages

Latest Comments