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Pogacar Vingegaard stage 11 Tour de France 2022
Pogacar Vingegaard stage 11 Tour de France 2022 (screenshot Twitter vid Jumbo Visma) (Image Credit: screenshot Twitter vid Jumbo Visma)

Great sportsmanship as smiling Pogačar congratulates Vingegaard on taking yellow (+ reaction to one of the great Tour stages); Meltdown over 20mph speed limits; Magnus Cort being weird; Man with TWO bikes on M62; Mountain porn + more on the live blog

After the weekend’s rest and two warm-up days keeping the legs spinning through road.cc news coverage Dan Alexander is ready for a double-header of monster Alpine live blog days. Will he get dropped before the sprinters? Almost certainly…
  • by Dan Alexander
Wed, Jul 13, 2022 07:59
77

SUMMARY

  • Building Romain Bardet's Tour de France Bike — The All-New SCOTT Foil RC
  • Magnus Cort talks erections, farm animals & improved skin in utterly bizarre post-stage win Instagram
  • Tour de France mountain showdown
  • Count the cyclists
  • The bike of today's stage winner? EDIT: THIS AGED EXCEPTIONALLY WELL
  • Cyclist WITH TWO BIKES pulled over by police on the M6
  • £6,000 raised after horrific crash leaves rider needing extensive dental work
  • It's that time of the year when Geraint Thomas (and his namesake) shine
  • Is it 'cross season already?
  • Mountain porn
  • Meanwhile at Alpe d'Huez
  • Jumbo-Visma go long
  • FIREWORKS
  • Could everyone stop attacking?
  • Col du Granon
  • Tadej Pogačar cracks — Jonas Vingegaard wins stage 11 and rides into yellow
  • GC after stage 11
  • Working hard or hardly working?
  • It's the "unrelenting war on drivers" (apparently) — meltdown over 20mph speed limits
  • Great respect as smiling Tadej Pogačar congratulates Vingegaard on taking yellow
  • What happens when a Tour de France rider HATES their bike, kit or the Yellow Jersey?
Pogacar Vingegaard stage 11 Tour de France 2022
Pogacar Vingegaard stage 11 Tour de France 2022 (screenshot Twitter vid Jumbo Visma) (Image Credit: screenshot Twitter vid Jumbo Visma)
13 July 2022, 07:59

Building Romain Bardet's Tour de France Bike — The All-New SCOTT Foil RC

13 July 2022, 07:59

Magnus Cort talks erections, farm animals & improved skin in utterly bizarre post-stage win Instagram

What is going on?

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by Magnus Cort (@magnuscort)

Apparently it’s all to do with a post he was told to swiftly delete when he raced for Astana a few years back when he, essentially, wrote this exact endorsement about a bit of team kit. By the standard of some press releases we see, those claims are pretty humble…

Insert jokes about Cannondale’s stiffest ever ride, helmets and it all being a hard sell…

13 July 2022, 07:59

Tour de France mountain showdown

It’s time…

TdF 2022 Stage 11 profile
TdF 2022 Stage 11 profile (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
TdF 2022 Stage 11 profile
TdF 2022 Stage 11 profile (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Much of the day’s racing will be decided above 2,000m and also in sweltering heat…

😶 https://t.co/IDFLNdX6yg

— Ned Boulting 🇫🇷 🚲 (@nedboulting) July 13, 2022

After 40km of flat, including a well-placed intermediate sprint, the peloton will ascend the Lacets de Montvernier, giving us all the most TV-friendly pictures of the Tour… 

🚲 ou 🚗 pour gravir ces 18 épingles, on hésite encore et vous ? 🤔
📍 Les Lacets de Montvernier en #Maurienne
📸https://t.co/TiBCdWWBTt pic.twitter.com/vlDaIf9JS9

— Savoie Mont Blanc (@SavoieMontBlanc) July 25, 2019

Anyone dropped here might as well pack it in and hop in the team car to save themselves the struggle: Col du Télégraphe (11.9km @ 7.1 per cent), straight into the Galibier (17.7km @ 6.9 per cent and topping out at 2,642m above sea level), finally a return to the Col du Granon for the first time in decades… 11.3km @ 9.2 per cent and climbing to a finish line altitude of 2,413m above sea level.

Can Jumbo-Visma and Ineos crack Pogačar?

13 July 2022, 07:59

Count the cyclists

What’s that about cycling not being popular? pic.twitter.com/oR0xP1ZN08

— Adam Bronkhorst (@AdamBronkhorst) July 13, 2022

13 July 2022, 07:59

The bike of today's stage winner? EDIT: THIS AGED EXCEPTIONALLY WELL

Granted Vingegaard (we think) was on a Cervelo R5 today. It’s potentially one of the Tour de France-winning bikes anyway, give us a break… 

13 July 2022, 07:59

Cyclist WITH TWO BIKES pulled over by police on the M6

M6 (via StreetView)
M6 (via StreetView) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
M6 (via StreetView)
M6 (via StreetView) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A man with two bikes was pulled over by police near Junction 6 of the M6 in Birmingham. Rady Salim, operations manager for National Highways, said: “This seems to have been a case of a cyclist using the M6 after following a map on his phone. We’d always remind people to familiarise themselves with the law.”

The Birmingham Mail said it was unclear why the man had two bikes and shared pictures of police speaking to him at around 12.50pm yesterday.

13 July 2022, 07:59

£6,000 raised after horrific crash leaves rider needing extensive dental work

Paschal GoFundMe
Paschal GoFundMe (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Paschal GoFundMe
Paschal GoFundMe (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Last Friday, Paschal knocked out six teeth, dislocated his jaw and suffered inner and outer mouth lacerations in a severe crash. More than £6,000 has been raised in the days since, over half of the fundraising target of £12,000 to cover the cost of dental work (not covered by the NHS) at a price of minimum £2,000 per tooth…

The crash led to an emergency CT scan at St Thomas’ Hospital, and a transfer to King’s College London for specialist care from the Maxillofacial team. Luckily, there were no lifelong damages to the head, neck or spine, just a quite eye-watering dental bill to come…

Link to GoFundMe…

13 July 2022, 07:59

It's that time of the year when Geraint Thomas (and his namesake) shine

Jesus alright I’ll change my glasses. Happy now?! https://t.co/QZPyghmQhn pic.twitter.com/JHjKw8oixG

— Geraint Thomas (@geraintthomas) July 13, 2022

I’d rather be Geraint Thomas than the Jon Jones, but not the Jon Jones, who shoots to social media prominence every time the former UFC champion hits the headlines for the wrong reasons…

13 July 2022, 07:59

Is it 'cross season already?

Van der Poel Van Aert Tour de France (GCN Eurosport)
Van der Poel Van Aert Tour de France (GCN Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Van der Poel Van Aert Tour de France (GCN Eurosport)
Van der Poel Van Aert Tour de France (GCN Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Someone give Tom Pidcock a nudge, he must have missed the cyclocross breakaway memo…

Yes, these two have gone on the attack from the gun on stage 11. I mean, why wouldn’t you with 150km of horrible mountains ahead? It’ll be interesting to see if Wout calls it quits after the intermediate sprint in 15km. Naturally, Quick-Step Alpha Vinyl are chasing. It’s like the Classics all over…

13 July 2022, 07:59

Mountain porn

Les lacets de Montvernier 😍#TDF2022 #LesRP pic.twitter.com/rZgOXj8FoB

— Eurosport France (@Eurosport_FR) July 13, 2022

Everyone’s favourite bit of squiggly tarmac…

13 July 2022, 07:59

Meanwhile at Alpe d'Huez

Meanwhile, this is happening at Alpe D’Huez: pic.twitter.com/E0GSsyhIZh

— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) July 13, 2022

13 July 2022, 07:59

Jumbo-Visma go long

Benoot versnelt met Roglic in het wiel. Concurrenten reageren meteen. #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/RkeRe41ACX

— Sporza 🚴 (@sporza_koers) July 13, 2022

Here’s the moment Tiesj Benoot and Primož Roglič darted out the peloton midway up the Col du Télégraphe. No problem for Ineos and Pog just yet, that was closed fairly easily. Benoot is back to keeping the pace high on the front.

Up the road, teammate Wout van Aert is in position for a breakaway stage win or later teammate duty. He’s just crossed the first climb and will be soon onto the Galibier. Pierre Latour won the KOM points sprint ahead of Warren Barguil and current polka dots wearer Simon Geschke.

Having gone on the attack from the gun, Mathieu van der Poel has now abandoned the Tour. He’ll be back in better form at some point soon, no doubt.

13 July 2022, 07:59

FIREWORKS

You know in a normal bike race in the mountains when the group starts with everyone then slowly whittles down to the strongest few on the final climb? Yep, well tear that idea up…

There are 4 men in the 💛 Yellow Jersey group!

💛 Il n’y a plus que 4 coureurs dans le groupe Maillot Jaune !

🇸🇮 @TamauPogi
🇩🇰 Jonas Vingegaard
🇸🇮 @rogla
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 @GeraintThomas86 #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/I6AilBnFmh

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 13, 2022

The big names are on the Galibier and trading punches. Roglič has attacked a couple of times, Pog chased, Vingegaard attacked, Pog followed, Pogačar attacked, Jumbo-Visma and Geraint Thomas followed…oh for goodness’ sake even as I write this Vingegaard’s gone again…pulled back…now Roglič goes!!!

They’re six minutes behind the break and only on the lower slopes of the second climb of the day. Is anyone going to be left at the finish?

Can we please have some calm so I can get some lunch?

13 July 2022, 07:59

Could everyone stop attacking?

It quietened down for a second, came back together, now they’re back kicking energy gels out of each other. Roglič has been distanced by the latest attack, from the yellow jersey himself. Now it’s just Pog and Vingegaard left in the group of GC favourites…

I’m getting quite peckish so, to quote Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels: “Could everyone stop getting shot (out the back of the Tour de France)?!” Just for 15 minutes please…

POGI vs JONAS! #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/xzuBxGyhFQ

— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) July 13, 2022

13 July 2022, 07:59

Col du Granon

And finally Col du Granon which marks the highest summit finish of this year’s Tour. https://t.co/3CgNpDWtiB pic.twitter.com/xCUjPpnhJJ

— Strava (@Strava) July 13, 2022

13 July 2022, 07:59

Tadej Pogačar cracks — Jonas Vingegaard wins stage 11 and rides into yellow

DRAMA…

🇩🇰 Jonas Vingegaard drops @TamauPogi ! The Yellow Jersey can’t follow!

🇩🇰 Jonas Vingegaard décramponne @TamauPogi ! Le maillot jaune vacille !#TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/sFzeW93Rej

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 13, 2022

We have a new yellow jersey: Jonas Vingegaard. The Jumbo-Visma Dane finished off a spectacular stage with a devastating attack, sweeping up the rest of the breakaway and leaving Tadej Pogačar pedalling squares further down the mountain. By the finish Pogačar had been passed by Geraint Thomas, David Gaudu, Adam Yates (and also finished behind earlier attackers Nairo Quintana and Romain Bardet).

The Slovenian lost 2:51 to new race leader Vingegaard, 1:13 to Thomas.

An incredible effort from 🇫🇷 @romainbardet

Un effort incroyable de 🇫🇷 @romainbardet #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/AFRmrI9qiS

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 13, 2022

13 July 2022, 07:59

GC after stage 11

New GC after Stage 11 #TDF2022 pic.twitter.com/skOoKyqJ5Z

— the Inner Ring (@inrng) July 13, 2022

We’re all supporting Romain Bardet, right? 

13 July 2022, 07:59

Working hard or hardly working?

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by road.cc (@road.cc)

13 July 2022, 07:59

It's the "unrelenting war on drivers" (apparently) — meltdown over 20mph speed limits

So, as expected, last night the Welsh Parliament voted through a new law to introduce a nation-wide default 20mph speed limit on all restricted roads from September 2023, bringing the old limit down from 30mph and becoming the first UK nation to do so…

The Senedd has just voted to make 20mph the default local speed limit from September 2022.

A historic step that will save lives and improve communities. pic.twitter.com/COAZClyCpR

— Lee Waters MS (@Amanwy) July 12, 2022

 “The evidence is clear,” climate change minister Julie James said afterwards. “Decreasing speeds not only reduces accidents and saves lives, but helps improve people’s quality of life – making our streets and communities a safer and more welcoming place for cyclists and pedestrians, while helping reduce our environmental impact.”

And while our readership seemed to be pretty positive about the move…

I think this is a really good move. 👍 https://t.co/R19OSZpiCp

— Cllr Al Bayliss 🔶🇬🇧🇪🇺 (@Al_BaylissLD) July 12, 2022

Great idea and glad they had the guts to make this happen.

— Gavin (@bluejuice69) July 12, 2022

Certain sections of society have not. Cue the fury…

Welsh Conservatives spread pictures across social media with the tag line ‘Labour Slowing Wales Down!’ (altered by one reply to Slowing Wales Down… to save children’s lives)…

20’s plenty, is it Andrew? 😂 pic.twitter.com/7lGSj9BhWp

— Drew Evans (@dae_1989) July 13, 2022

Hmmmm, that’s awkward.

 A motoring podcaster claimed: “Ah, Wales. Where there is so very little evidence they make a difference, in fact increase emissions and don’t get an uptick in active travel, you’re going for it. This is what happens when belief takes over reality.”

That fact-checkers’ favourite “Great Reset” got another airing too…something something war on drivers something something…

No.

They are taking the speed limit of 30mph in built up areas & lowering it to 20mph.

Its to save lives, not whatever the hell your banging on about.

— Nikki ☭ 🏴‍☠️ (@foggybrain) July 12, 2022

The replies were fun, in an incredibly concerning way, too…

@MarkDrakeford
I hope your now going to introduce number plates for pedal cycles, so they can be traced when they break the #20splenty rules?

— Richard Davies (@JIGSAW_72) July 13, 2022

Waste of money. They can’t police existing speed limits, this is about an abuse of imaginary power. It started with Covid regulations, they will never let go till they turn Eales to a communist state.
To all those still voting Labour in Wales, I hold you responsible.

— Patriotic Bear (@stamf0rd) July 12, 2022

Which prompted this…

pic.twitter.com/gPn7hofmfg

— Elliot (@_El_1988) July 13, 2022

And lastly, a joke (we hope)…

Pubs will soon be closed on Sundays next

— Essendee Espania (@srthomas1957) July 12, 2022

13 July 2022, 07:59

Great respect as smiling Tadej Pogačar congratulates Vingegaard on taking yellow

How gracious in defeat would you have been if you’d minutes earlier, at the end of an epic mountain stage, pedalled squares up 10km of Alpine high-altitude suffering, losing time on all your major rivals and watching the main one take your yellow jersey?

Not as gracious as Tadej Pogačar, I’d suggest…

🇫🇷 #TDF2022

🤝🏼😎 pic.twitter.com/TCnKl2AYdH

— Team Jumbo-Visma cycling (@JumboVismaRoad) July 13, 2022

After the UAE Team Emirates leader had finished resting his exhausted head on his stem and brought his heart rate back down to a somewhat normal, he went back to find Vingegaard, shaking his hand and congratulating him on an impressive win. Although it did prompt some Danish fans to warn Jonas to quickly sanitise his hands…UAE’s covid record and all…

Here are some of the nicer comments…

So cool sportsmanship @TamauPogi – deepest respect for your epic battle with outstanding Jonas Vingegaard and @JumboVismaRoad 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰

— Rolf Momberg (@rolfmomberg) July 13, 2022

Great to see, what a level headed young man. Brilliant example to all. 👌👍 👏

— Klien (@Sportyklien) July 13, 2022

And to think that wasn’t even the Queen Stage… same time and place tomorrow… 

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13 July 2022, 07:59

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13 July 2022, 07:59

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77 thoughts on “Great sportsmanship as smiling Pogačar congratulates Vingegaard on taking yellow (+ reaction to one of the great Tour stages); Meltdown over 20mph speed limits; Magnus Cort being weird; Man with TWO bikes on M62; Mountain porn + more on the live blog”

  1. Owd Big 'Ead
    July 13, 2022 at 8:28 am
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    20’s Plenty.

    20’s Plenty.

    Sounds catchy, eh?

    Another sticking plaster solution to the fct that there are far too many vehicles on the roads.

    Will it achieve anything, doubtful. Who is going to enforce it, the Police turn a blind eye to the majority of those breaking the limit elsewhere in the UK so I don’t see it being enforced any differently in Wales either.

    If the Senedd  really want to make a difference, concentrate on taking road space from motorists and build infrastructure that appeals to all active travel users.

    A shared lane between pedestrians and cyclists is not infrastructure. A lick of paint at the side of the road is not infrastructure. 

    We only have to look across the North Sea to our neighbours in Holland, Germany and Denmark to see what real infrastructure is, yet we still get it wrong, time after time after time…

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    • hawkinspeter
      July 13, 2022 at 8:38 am
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      Just replied to Rich_cb in

      Just replied to Rich_cb in another thread, but this seems relevant here – the results of Bristol’s 20mph city centre roads:

      https://info.uwe.ac.uk/news/uwenews/news.aspx?id=3766

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-43050841

      Average speeds reduced by 2.7mph, saving 4.5 lives a year and approx £15m from reduced injuries.

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      • Steve K
        July 13, 2022 at 9:36 am
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        Just replied to Rich_cb in another thread, but this seems relevant here – the results of Bristol’s 20mph city centre roads:

        https://info.uwe.ac.uk/news/uwenews/news.aspx?id=3766

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-43050841

        Average speeds reduced by 2.7mph, saving 4.5 lives a year and approx £15m from reduced injuries.

        — hawkinspeter

        That’s both positive – the life and cost savings – and depressing – the fact the average speed is over the speed limit.

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    • Dr Frasier Crane
      July 13, 2022 at 10:01 am
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      Ha ha, I live in Bristol and

      Ha ha, I live in Bristol and it’s nothing to do with the 20mph speed limits (which are not enforced) it’s the fact that Bristol as stated in a recent survey is No.1 in the Country as the worst city to drive in. It beats London hands down…..

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      • chrisonabike
        July 13, 2022 at 12:33 pm
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        It’s probably all the

        Bristol bad for driving?  It’s probably all the flooding caused by rising sea levels.  That’s due to all the sunken statues.  Water which then has nowhere to go because someone painted white lines either side of the road.

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        • hawkinspeter
          July 13, 2022 at 12:41 pm
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          chrisonatrike wrote:

          Bristol bad for driving?  It’s probably all the flooding caused by rising sea levels.  That’s due to all the sunken statues.  Water which then has nowhere to go because someone painted white lines either side of the road.

          — chrisonatrike

          With any luck, it’ll get even worse for people driving in and around Bristol: Bus gate could see section of Cumberland Road closed to cars

          (Cumberland Road is the road that goes alongside the now closed Chocolate Path)

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    • iandusud
      July 13, 2022 at 4:37 pm
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      Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:

      20’s Plenty.

      Sounds catchy, eh?

      Who is going to enforce it,

      — Owd Big 'Ead

      Responsible drivers. I unfortunately have to drive a van for my work 4 days a week. I ridgidly stick to speed limits, including 20mph zones, needless to say it slows down all the eager beavers that line up behind me. I often drive well below the posted 30mph limit in built up areas when I consider it inappropriate. 

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  2. Mungecrundle
    July 13, 2022 at 8:37 am
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    War on drivers? If KSI stats
    War on drivers? If KSI stats are any sort of measure of who is winning this “war” then drivers are winning it hands down. Time to change the rules.

    Declaration of interest – I am a driver.

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    • brooksby
      July 13, 2022 at 9:43 am
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      Does anyone know whether

      Does anyone know whether civilians can buy caltrops or stingers?  Asking for a friend.

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      • Hirsute
        July 13, 2022 at 9:48 am
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        That came up in the last few

        That came up in the last few weeks. No was the answer, you have to be a particular organisation.

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        • brooksby
          July 13, 2022 at 10:35 am
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          Thanks.  I’ll tell my – er –

          Thanks.  I’ll tell my – er – friend.

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  3. don simon fbpe
    July 13, 2022 at 8:38 am
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    Don’t live in Wales? Don’t

    Don’t live in Wales? Don’t worry about what’s happening in a foreign country, it doesn’t affect you.

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    • hawkinspeter
      July 13, 2022 at 9:16 am
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      don simon fbpe wrote:

      Don’t live in Wales? Don’t worry about what’s happening in a foreign country, it doesn’t affect you.

      — don simon fbpe

      But I just came back from a week’s holiday near Barmouth!

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      • SimoninSpalding
        July 13, 2022 at 9:23 am
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        My profound sympathies.

        My profound sympathies.

        Did you manage to find a comfortable holiday tree?

        Hopefully you managed to avoid Abersoch or Cheshire by the sea as it is known now.

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        • hawkinspeter
          July 13, 2022 at 9:38 am
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          SimoninSpalding wrote:

          My profound sympathies.

          Did you manage to find a comfortable holiday tree?

          Hopefully you managed to avoid Abersoch or Cheshire by the sea as it is known now.

          — SimoninSpalding

          We didn’t go as far as Abersoch, so I can’t comment on that. Personally, I found Barmouth to be a nice area, but too busy and noticeably car fumey. We stayed in Dyffryn Ardudwy – just up from the nudist beach.

          Unfortunately, half our party came down with COVID at the beginning of the week, so we had to move to separate bedrooms branches.

          Incidentally, why doesn’t Harlech have a pub?

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          • don simon fbpe
            July 13, 2022 at 9:54 am
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            I does, doesn’t it? There’s

            I does, doesn’t it? There’s one on the bottom road.

            Isn’t there a certain irony in slagging off Abersoch as being a town to avoid when visiting Wales?

          • hawkinspeter
            July 13, 2022 at 10:04 am
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            don simon fbpe wrote:

            I does, doesn’t it? There’s one on the bottom road.

            Isn’t there a certain irony in slagging off Abersoch as being a town to avoid when visiting Wales?

            — don simon fbpe

            Never been to Abersoch, so I have no idea if it’s nice or not. I was very impressed with the beaches around that area – looked like something out of a mediterranean holiday brochure with sunshine, golden sands and surprisingly few people. I think Barmouth suffers from being too touristy or maybe it just reminds me of seaside towns like Weston-super-Mud (which I try to only visit when my work insists, but I’ve got a couple of relatives there too).

          • don simon fbpe
            July 13, 2022 at 10:19 am
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            A lot of the towns are very

            A lot of the towns are very touristic, Barmouth caters for a crowd. Some of the beaches are stunning and that drive up to Harlech is lovely. I was in Paorthmadoc a couple of weeks ago, that place has changed. It’s probably difficult to find places that aren’t overrun with tourist, which is why I tend to stay in secluded fields off the beaten track.

          • hawkinspeter
            July 13, 2022 at 10:43 am
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            don simon fbpe wrote:

            A lot of the towns are very touristic, Barmouth caters for a crowd. Some of the beaches are stunning and that drive up to Harlech is lovely. I was in Paorthmadoc a couple of weeks ago, that place has changed. It’s probably difficult to find places that aren’t overrun with tourist, which is why I tend to stay in secluded fields off the beaten track.

            — don simon fbpe

            I would apologise for adding to the tourist numbers, but I guess that a lot of businesses there are more than happy to see tourists. It did amuse me going round Harlech Castle that it was Owain Glyndŵr’s last stand against the English invaders and yet there we were (of course, those castles were built during an English invasion). Found some Welsh rum from the gift shop too (https://www.penderyn.wales/2020/01/22/siddiqui-rums-from-penderyn-distillery/).

          • don simon fbpe
            July 13, 2022 at 10:50 am
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            Respectful tourists are most

            Respectful tourists are most welcome. Many of the villages are not geared for modern day mass tourism though, just look at Llanbedr. There needs to be a push for quality and not quantity as is currently is. I’m looking at doing a tour of Wales and documenting Welsh castles as opposed to english (Edward 1) castles in Wales.

          • hawkinspeter
            July 13, 2022 at 10:57 am
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            don simon fbpe wrote:

            Respectful tourists are most welcome. Many of the villages are not geared for modern day mass tourism though, just look at Llanbedr. There needs to be a push for quality and not quantity as is currently is. I’m looking at doing a tour of Wales and documenting Welsh castles as opposed to english (Edward 1) castles in Wales.

            — don simon fbpe

            Excellent. I think it’s time for domestic holidaying to become more popular especially considering how damaging plane travel is.

          • don simon fbpe
            July 13, 2022 at 12:58 pm
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            Probably not a good idea to

            Probably not a good idea to drop the independence bomb here then. kiss

          • hawkinspeter
            July 13, 2022 at 1:05 pm
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            don simon fbpe wrote:

            Probably not a good idea to drop the independence bomb here then. kiss

            — don simon fbpe

            As long as the bridges still work, I’m not too bothered.

            As an aside, I was kind of hoping England would declare independence from the Tories and have Nicola Sturgeon in charge.

          • The Larger Cyclist
            July 13, 2022 at 11:32 am
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            I would apologise for adding to the tourist numbers, but I guess that a lot of businesses there are more than happy to see tourists. It did amuse me going round Harlech Castle that it was Owain Glyndŵr’s last stand against the English invaders and yet there we were (of course, those castles were built during an English invasion). Found some Welsh rum from the gift shop too (https://www.penderyn.wales/2020/01/22/siddiqui-rums-from-penderyn-distillery/).

            — hawkinspeter

            Penderyn have recently opened a distillery in Llandudno – well worth a visit and tour. You get free samples at the end.

             

          • hawkinspeter
            July 13, 2022 at 11:44 am
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            The Larger Cyclist wrote:

            Penderyn have recently opened a distillery in Llandudno – well worth a visit and tour. You get free samples at the end.

            — The Larger Cyclist

            Their whiskys are quite highly rated, so they must be doing something right.

          • SimoninSpalding
            July 13, 2022 at 2:30 pm
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            For clarity I mentioned

            For clarity I mentioned Abersoch because of this article I read. When I was a kid growing up in Shropshire, Abersoch was only noted for the youth hostel where our DofE trips were based.

          • Simon_MacMichael
            July 13, 2022 at 10:29 am
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            Incidentally, why doesn’t Harlech have a pub?

            — hawkinspeter

            I asked myself the exact same question when I’d just pushed the Elephant Bike plus the pup in basket up that insanely steep road on my last trip that way, pre-COVID.

            The Victoria Inn in Llanbedr, a couple of kilometres to the south, was very nice though.

          • SimoninSpalding
            July 13, 2022 at 2:36 pm
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            I spent a lot of childhood

            I spent a lot of childhood holidays in the area (caravan at Llanaber) and one of the things I remember is the overwhelming smell of car fumes in Barmouth – I’m guessing it is something to do with the topography that they don’t disperse.

          • hawkinspeter
            July 13, 2022 at 3:12 pm
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            SimoninSpalding wrote:

            I spent a lot of childhood holidays in the area (caravan at Llanaber) and one of the things I remember is the overwhelming smell of car fumes in Barmouth – I’m guessing it is something to do with the topography that they don’t disperse.

            — SimoninSpalding

            I’d say that it’s more to do with its popularity as you’d expect coastal towns to have plenty of clean air blowing in. I particularly noticed it around the car park by the beach and as a pedestrian it was tricky crossing the roads there. Unfortunately, we contributed to the traffic as well, though Mrs HawkinsPeter and I did cycle there when we stayed near Dolgellau a few years back.

      • don simon fbpe
        July 13, 2022 at 9:28 am
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        You were hit by the

        You were hit by the unofficial 20mph limits then. Others might call them roadworks, motorhomes or caravans. Some of the best people in the world have origins in that area.

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        • brooksby
          July 13, 2022 at 9:42 am
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          On the M5 northbound

          On the M5 northbound yesterday there was a breakdown north of Clevedon.  Traffic was moving at 6mph.  On the motorway.

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          • don simon fbpe
            July 13, 2022 at 9:51 am
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            Yes, but 20mph limits in high

            Yes, but 20mph limits in high risk areas!!! It’s a war on cars!!!!

  4. OnYerBike
    July 13, 2022 at 8:47 am
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    “The Great Reset/Agenda30

    “The Great Reset/Agenda30 wants us cycling or walking or occasionally using an electric car.“

    Sounds good to me. No idea what The Great Reset is, but if that’s what it’s about then bring it on.

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    • Secret_squirrel
      July 13, 2022 at 8:53 am
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      The Great Reset is an

      The Great Reset is an imaginary conspiracy theory invented by white/right wingists to allow them to feel victimised by the wokists.

      As you say bring it on!

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      • Car Delenda Est
        July 13, 2022 at 9:10 am
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        I still remember the crushing
        I still remember the crushing disappointment of learning it was just a conspiracy theory and that _they_ weren’t stepping in anytime soon

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      • Hirsute
        July 13, 2022 at 9:43 am
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        imaginary conspiracy theory

        imaginary conspiracy theory

        –  is that a conspiracy theory about the existence of a conspiracy theory ?

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        • andystow
          July 13, 2022 at 1:57 pm
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          hirsute wrote:

          imaginary conspiracy theory

          –  is that a conspiracy theory about the existence of a conspiracy theory ?

          — hirsute

          “Conspiracy theory” has completely lost its original, plain meaning. For instance, I believe a “conspiracy theory” about 9/11. The alternative conspiracy-free explanation is that a bunch of people independently decided to hijack planes that day, and were very surprised to find others with the same plans on the same planes as them!

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      • Simon_MacMichael
        July 13, 2022 at 10:24 am
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        Secret_squirrel wrote:

        The Great Reset is an imaginary conspiracy theory invented by white/right wingists to allow them to feel victimised by the wokists.

        As you say bring it on!

        — Secret_squirrel

        Oh, the Great Reset is real enough, it’s a project of the World Economic Forum … where the conspiracy theory comes in is due to the hidden agenda some people believe lies behind it.

        https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

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        • hawkinspeter
          July 13, 2022 at 10:50 am
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          Simon_MacMichael wrote:

          Oh, the Great Reset is real enough, it’s a project of the World Economic Forum … where the conspiracy theory comes in is due to the hidden agenda some people believe lies behind it.

          https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

          — Simon_MacMichael

          Pffft! I can’t see anything about eating the rich

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    • chrisonabike
      July 13, 2022 at 9:13 am
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      The Great Reset is the

      The Great Reset is the overarching principle of IT support – a very subtle concept.  In a simpler form it’s familiar to many people as the mantra “first turn off, then back on”.

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  5. Rendel Harris
    July 13, 2022 at 8:56 am
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    OK Magnus, both hands where

    OK Magnus, both hands where we can see ’em, please…

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  6. eburtthebike
    July 13, 2022 at 9:01 am
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    As someone much better at

    As someone much better at these things than me put it:

    “The war on motorists, or asking them nicely not to kill us.”

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    • brooksby
      July 13, 2022 at 9:29 am
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      It’s an asymmetric conflict,

      It’s an asymmetric conflict, and the cyclists are the ones being massacred…

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  7. chrisonabike
    July 13, 2022 at 9:19 am
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    RE: 20s plenty.

    RE: 20s plenty.

    The commentor is right – not only are those trying to ruin our traditional way of life going to close the pubs on Sundays but they’ll stop you driving home from them too.

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  8. yupiteru
    July 13, 2022 at 9:22 am
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    I think this is a great idea

    I think this is a great idea and will be introduced in Scotland withing the next couple of years according to the SNP.

    The Northern Ireland Infrastructure Minister, Nichola Mallon has already announced the introduction of 20mph limits around 106 schools across Northern Ireland with the aim to roll it out nationwide in the near future.

    England wont be left behind, whatever the politicians claim, they know which way the wind is blowing, most voters are in favour according to a yougov poll.

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  9. brooksby
    July 13, 2022 at 9:28 am
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    Lacets de Montvernier

    Lacets de Montvernier

    O. M. F. G.   

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    • ktache
      July 13, 2022 at 11:25 am
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      It’s a steep one, but I think

      It’s a steep one, but I think that Twitter image might be slightly angled to make it look a little more extreme.

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      • brooksby
        July 13, 2022 at 11:46 am
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        I hope so!

        I hope so!

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      • Rendel Harris
        July 13, 2022 at 6:24 pm
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        Yes, this is more faithful to

        Yes, this is more faithful to the true angle; odd thing to do as this is definitely a case where gilding the refined gold is not necessary!

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    • andystow
      July 13, 2022 at 1:49 pm
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      Google maps has trouble even

      Google maps has trouble even drawing it!

      https://goo.gl/maps/yn4jwdjz8MSqExVK7

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        July 13, 2022 at 2:13 pm
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        Google measure direct

        Google measure direct distance from the chem du charvet to the chapel as 300 meters (as crow flies). Strava maps show elevation at the bottom of 500 meters raising to 710. So close to a 66% gradient. So I don’t think the picture is too wrong.

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    • Miller
      July 13, 2022 at 2:23 pm
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      (Relating back to yesterday

      (Relating back to yesterday chat) Der Teufel spotted! Didi Senft is jumping up and down and waving his trident in his time-honoured fashion at 10km to go on the Col du Granon.

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    • Hirsute
      July 13, 2022 at 3:15 pm
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      This version might be easier

      This version might be easier

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXijOsHXkAEJk42?format=jpg&name=large

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  10. brooksby
    July 13, 2022 at 9:33 am
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    Cratoon in today’s Private

    Cartoon in today’s Private Eye (I think they’re supposed to be looking out of the cockpit of an aeroplane…).

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    • hawkinspeter
      July 13, 2022 at 9:58 am
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      brooksby wrote:

      Cartoon in today’s Private Eye (I think they’re supposed to be looking out of the cockpit of an aeroplane…).

      — brooksby

      That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why is a plane on the road or is it that someone’s put a cycle lane on an airstrip?

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      • OnYerBike
        July 13, 2022 at 10:18 am
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        .

        .

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      • brooksby
        July 13, 2022 at 10:34 am
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        I had read it as the cyclists

        I had read it as the cyclists are on the (wrong side of the?) runway but they still have priority because there’s a cycle lane.  It was funnier when I first read it… 

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    • Mungecrundle
      July 13, 2022 at 12:38 pm
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      I thought it was the view
      I thought it was the view from the cockpit of one of the larger SUV brands that infest our roads. You know, the ones that are too wide for country lanes, have multiple entertainment screens to keep the driver occupied and given the type of people who frequently own them, should require a properly qualified co-pilot to supervise.

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    • dabba
      July 13, 2022 at 7:39 pm
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      In aviation IFR stands for

      In aviation IFR stands for Instrument Flight Rating. For these “pilots”, it’s I Follow Roads. 

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  11. Hirsute
    July 13, 2022 at 2:07 pm
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    Not sure why the bothered

    Not sure why they bothered locking this death trap !

     

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    • andystow
      July 13, 2022 at 2:06 pm
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      Is that QR skewer unlocked?

      Is that QR skewer unlocked?

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      • Hirsute
        July 13, 2022 at 2:10 pm
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        Good spot!

        Good spot!

        The sprockets were actually in good nick

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    • hawkinspeter
      July 13, 2022 at 2:16 pm
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      hirsute wrote:

      Not sure why they bothered locking this death trap !

      — hirsute

      Maybe it’s a new anti-theft trick – just loosen some critical components and hope the thief tries to ride off on it

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      • ktache
        July 13, 2022 at 6:14 pm
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        Stemlock by IXOW

        Stemlock by IXOW

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  12. quiff
    July 13, 2022 at 2:24 pm
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    WvA; WTF! Absolute machine.

    WvA; WTF! Absolute machine.

    Also, to answer a question from yesterday’s live blog, Didi the Devil was back at the Tour today.  

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  13. eburtthebike
    July 13, 2022 at 2:30 pm
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    Cyclist WITH TWO BIKES pulled

    Cyclist WITH TWO BIKES pulled over by police on the M6

    Since he clearly had four wheels, he was therefore a car not a bicyclist.

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  14. vthejk
    July 13, 2022 at 3:00 pm
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    I was talking to one of my

    I was talking to one of my Year 7s about a crash I suffered earlier this year, when a motorist rammed into me sideaways at a roundabout. I was on the roundabout already, merging off for my exit. Motorist ‘joined’ the roundabout but forgot that I have mass, am a living organism and am right in his path.

    Student: Sir, did you have a bike accident this year?

    Me: *pedant on* yes, a car driver crashed into me.

    Student: Were you at fault or was he?

    Me: (instantly defensive) he was, because I was on a roundabout and he drove into me without looking carefully.

    Student: (obviously thrilled to be in the right) nah, sir, that can’t be – you were definitely in the wrong.

    Me: (with a resigned sigh) and why would that be?

    Student: (exasperated at my obvious adult stupidity) Why, sir, it’s obvious – you’re on a bike. You couldn’t possibly ride on a roundabout!

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    • eburtthebike
      July 13, 2022 at 5:33 pm
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      vthejk wrote:

      I was talking to one of my Year 7s about a crash I suffered earlier this year, when a motorist rammed into me sideaways at a roundabout. I was on the roundabout already, merging off for my exit. Motorist ‘joined’ the roundabout but forgot that I have mass, am a living organism and am right in his path.

      Student: Sir, did you have a bike accident this year?

      Me: *pedant on* yes, a car driver crashed into me.

      Student: Were you at fault or was he?

      Me: (instantly defensive) he was, because I was on a roundabout and he drove into me without looking carefully.

      Student: (obviously thrilled to be in the right) nah, sir, that can’t be – you were definitely in the wrong.

      Me: (with a resigned sigh) and why would that be?

      Student: (exasperated at my obvious adult stupidity) Why, sir, it’s obvious – you’re on a bike. You couldn’t possibly ride on a roundabout!

      — vthejk

      You can’t just leave it hanging there; was it lines, detention or the cane?

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      • vthejk
        July 14, 2022 at 1:05 pm
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        Obviously, the worst possible

        Obviously, the worst possible punishment – I made him ride his bike to school for a week.

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  15. Hirsute
    July 13, 2022 at 4:07 pm
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    But how will I get my giant

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXipcEaWIAAS_xb?format=jpg&name=large

    But how will I get my giant sculpture to my mum’s by bike ?

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    • hawkinspeter
      July 13, 2022 at 4:36 pm
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      hirsute wrote:

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXipcEaWIAAS_xb?format=jpg&name=large

      But how will I get my giant sculpture to my mum’s by bike ?

      — hirsute

      hirsute: “Hey mum, I got you that giant pink dodo you wanted”

      hirsute’s mum: “That’s not what I asked for!”

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      • Rendel Harris
        July 13, 2022 at 6:49 pm
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        “Son, when I said wasn’t it

        “Son, when I said wasn’t it about time you brought a nice bird home…”

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      • eburtthebike
        July 13, 2022 at 9:35 pm
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXipcEaWIAAS_xb?format=jpg&name=large

        But how will I get my giant sculpture to my mum’s by bike ?

        — hawkinspeter

        hirsute: “Hey mum, I got you that giant pink dodo you wanted”

        hirsute’s mum: “That’s not what I asked for!”

        — hirsute

        Oh, pluck it!

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    • chrisonabike
      July 13, 2022 at 9:18 pm
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      “Misheard order results in

      “Misheard order results in Ann Summers sending Pidcock to deliver a giant pink dodo”

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  16. jaysa
    July 13, 2022 at 10:52 pm
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    Talking of sportsmanship in

    Talking of sportsmanship in todays’ stage, Van Aert was riding back down the Granon to his bus and stopped to help an Italian fan mend a puncture. Some one saw Van Aert’s tubeless tyre was leaking goo, so a rider from Horsham lent WVA his pump. Van Aert gave the Brit his green jersey in thanks – clips here [French and Italian but you can hear the guy’s ‘Oh My God’ !]

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  17. Cupov
    July 14, 2022 at 8:08 am
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    Nice to see Lizzie Deignan on
    Nice to see Lizzie Deignan on the ITV4 highlights show but can someone please advise her how to say tadej’s surname correctly….she’s been to the Sean Kelly school of mispronunciation

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    • Steve K
      July 14, 2022 at 8:34 am
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      Cupov wrote:

      Nice to see Lizzie Deignan on the ITV4 highlights show but can someone please advise her how to say tadej’s surname correctly….she’s been to the Sean Kelly school of mispronunciation

      — Cupov

      She managed to just about get it right – and commented on it – on the Never Strays Car pod, so hopefully she’ll do better from now on 🙂 

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