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Chris Froome mistaken for 'leisure rider' on French TV after being turned back due to forest fires; Presenter Storm Huntley hit by driver; Vigilante arsonist?; Schrödinger's cyclist; Vuelta team news; LTN thoughts + more on the live blog

It's Wednesday and Dan Alexander is here to take you through the middle of the week on the live blog...
11 August 2021, 16:09
French TV shows 'leisure rider' stopped from passing due to forest fire...unaware it's Chris Froome

Poor Chris Froome. All it takes is a couple of bad years and now he's being mistaken for just a 'leisure cyclist' by a French TV report. Stopped by a marshall because of a risk of forest fires in the area near his Saint-Raphaël home on the Mediterranean coast, Froome was told he cannot pass in a clip caught on local news...the voiceover calls him "Ce randonneur à vélo", which we believe loosely translates to 'leisure rider'...

That randonneur has won four Tour de France titles, I'll have you know - all of which were broadcast on your TV channel. Perhaps it was the lack of Israel Start-Up Nation kit which threw France 2 off...or maybe the disc brakes...has Chris come round to the tech?

Froome did not seem too perturbed by the understandable road closure, giving a very French sounding "Okay". Earlier this week, French residents in at risk areas were warned to stay away from forests. 

It's not the first time Froome has been mistaken for an amateur rider...back in 2018 at the Tour de France a policeman called the then Team Sky rider to a halt as he descended back down the summit finish at Col de Portet. Maybe Start-Up Nation should make him a special 'I've won the Tour de France four times' hi-vis jersey?

11 August 2021, 15:09
Dolan Bikes named official partners of this year's Tour of Britain, Women's Tour and Tour Series
Joe Holt & Will Roberts from Wales Racing Academy (SWPix)

Lancashire-based Dolan Bikes have partnered with the Tour of Britain, Women's Tour and Tour Series to support the UK's biggest events in the domestic cycling calendar. As part of the deal, two fans will win a fully custom-built road bike worth £3,000 during the Tour of Britain (5-12 September) and Women's Tour (4-9 October). The lucky winners can choose between a Dolan Ares or Dolan Tuono with paint scheme overseen by Dolan Bikes' in-house team.

Dolan prides itself on offering bikes customised down to every component. The brand was founded in Liverpool in 1966 and supplied a series of pro teams, including ANC Halfords and Team Falcon Cycles who won six Kelogg's Tour and Milk Race events.

"Being a leading British bike brand and having supported our greatest on the road to success, we felt that supporting the biggest bikes races would celebrate the success of cycling in Britain," Terry Dolan, director of Dolan Bikes said.

11 August 2021, 14:24
Cable ties: The must-have jack of all trades
Forum post: Broken bolt cable ties

Over on the forum Brooksby asked for help getting a sheared mudguard bolt out...our favourite helpful suggestion was, "buy a new bike". That's the answer to everything, isn't it. 

As it turns out, a trip to the local bike shop and some cable ties were all that was required...

hirsuite remained unconvinced, preferring their new bike suggestion. Any other handy workshop uses for cable ties? 

11 August 2021, 14:03
Mario Cippolini takes a spin to the gun show

Legendary sprinter Mario Cippolini is 54 now, although you might not guess it looking at that bronzed physique...Cipo attracted amiring comments from his adoring fans on Instagram, including a certain Lance Armstrong. The look isn't really for us, we'll leave it to triathletes and good-looking Italians with 42 Giro stage wins...only a select few can pull that off.

Perhaps he's taken inspiration from Sir Bradley Wiggins' post-retirement modelling?

11 August 2021, 13:31
Three abreast road users selfishly hold up faster road users who need to get past...

I wonder what Angela Epstein would make of this? Presumably, based on yesterday's logic, these drivers should all pull over single file and allow the faster moving mode of transport to get to where they need to go...after all, what was it you said yesterday, Angela? Oh, that was it..."what gives them the right to block the road when there is a 30mph limit?" 

Somehow I don't think we'll be hearing her thoughts on this one...

11 August 2021, 12:55
Brutal pre-season forces Watford goalkeeper Ben Foster to ease off the two-wheeled training
Ben Foster Garmin partnership.JPG

Watford goalkeeper Ben Foster has eased of the cycling in recent times as he prepares for another shot at the Premier League. The Hornets begin their top-flight campaign against Aston Villa on Saturday and have been putting in the hard graft to be ready for the big kick-off.

Foster, who has built a following on YouTube as the Cycling GK and regularly documents his travels by bike, has said the bike hasn't received as much love as usual during the gruelling prep phase...

"[Pre-season training] has been brutal this year, absolutely brutal,” he told the Evening Standard. "It’s been double session after double session. I come back home and see my bike and say, ‘Sorry, babe, I can’t take you out tonight. I’ve got to get in bed because I am shattered’."

Back in March, Foster told us on Drink at Your Desk Live! that he wishes a pro cyclist could come into the training ground to show just how hard they train. Catch the full episode here, if you missed it...

11 August 2021, 11:35
Laura and Jason Kenny set to become dame and knight after Tokyo success
Laura Kenny and Katie Archibald win Madison gold in Tokyo (Copyright Alex Broadway, SWpix.com).JPG

Husband and wife duo Laura and Jason Kenny are set to become dame and knight after winning their record-breaking golds in Tokyo. According to the Independent, the pair are at the top of the list to receive honours. Laura became the first female British athlete to win gold at three different Olympic Games, while Jason became GB's most successful Olympian after winning his seventh gold with an audacious attack in Sunday's keirin.

A royal source at the Sun has said the pair absolute certainties to be at the top of the list come the end of the year. Arise, Sir Jason and Dame Laura...

11 August 2021, 10:40
Jeremy Vine presenter Storm Huntley hit by driver - urges cyclists to wear helmets

TV presenter Storm Huntley, who co-hosts Channel 5's Jeremy Vine show, was hit by a driver as she cycled home from work in London on Monday. Huntley told the programme on Tuesday that she hit her head on the pavement after the driver collided with her - cracking her helmet on impact. The driver reportedly cut across her to make a left turn.

"If I wasn't wearing that, that crack wouldn't be on my helmet, it would be on my skull, so I would not be here this morning," Huntley said. "The driver was shaken, there was no aggression, there was nobody being competitive on the road, it was an accident. Accidents happen, please put your helmets on, and even if you think you're a good driver, double check."

The broadcaster said her partner has encouraged her to give up cycling after seeing the damage to her bike and helmet. Huntley's co-host Jeremy Vine said people should not be put off cycling, adding the motorist is "a shocking driver" who "shouldn't be on the road." 

In a tweet, Huntley urged others to wear a helmet: "I’m sad to say I was knocked off my bike cycling home from work by a car turning left who hadn’t seen me. My helmet is cracked but at least it wasn’t my skull! If I wasn’t wearing my helmet this could have been a very different story. Please wear a helmet!"

Some have questioned the presenter's helmet comments...Pompey Cyclist said: "Very unlikely that your skull would crack from an impact that merely did that to your helmet. Your skull is around 10 times stronger than a polystyrene hat. It’s a bit like wrapping a brick in a tissue to protect it. People like you stating anecdote as if it’s fact is dangerous."

11 August 2021, 10:12
Schrödinger's cyclist
11 August 2021, 09:18
Vuelta a España team news: British rider Matt Holmes selected for Lotto-Soudal

We're up to five Brits at the Vuelta a España now: Tom Pidcock and Adam Yates for Ineos Grenadiers, Scott Thwaites with Grand Tour newbies Alpecin-Fenix, James Knox for Deceuninck-Quick-Step and now Matt Holmes with Lotto Soudal. Add Hugh Carthy to the list once EF Education-Nippo announce their line up and we should have six home riders to cheer on over the next three weeks.

What odds a Yates/Carthy one-two and a couple of stage wins between the rest? Let a man dream...

11 August 2021, 09:15
Biking in Brighton

I was just waiting for the lane to come to an abrupt halt, chucking riders out into the path of oncoming traffic... 

11 August 2021, 09:00
Where would you rather live?

Kirsty could be on to something here, surely Netflix will soon be on the phone for a three-part utopia/dystopia Black Mirror-esque drama. Jeremy Vine's poor 360-degree camera wouldn't be able to keep up with the action as he rides through B-side...the live blog would be on fire for weeks...and CyclingMikey, presumably living on A-side, would have nobody to catch.

11 August 2021, 07:48
The work of a vigilante arsonist? Mystery over flaming SUV blocking Denver bike lane

What do we have here? Vigilante cyclists setting light to bike lane blockers? Or was the flaming SUV moved into the cycle lane to get it 'out of the way'? Or, was it already there when it caught fire another way? The cyclists of Denver, Colorado, have been speculating if they have a vigilante arsonist in their midst. One dubbed it "justice via flames"... 

And while of course we can't recommend setting vehicles alight, regardless of where they're parked, the visual karma is strong in this one. Denver Bike Lanes, a page supporting cycle infrastructure in the city, replied to reporter Chase Woodruff's video calling it "SUV-towing-SUVs-parked-in-bike lane karma". While an LA-based photographer went for "The Beginnings of the Bike Lane Uprising".

Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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Apparently sometimes cable ties don't work...

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/speeding-biker-faulty-ma...

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A speeding motorcyclist on a faulty bike ploughed into a cyclist like a missile and left him seriously hurt.

Paul Crossland was riding his powerful 900cc Kawasaki ZX9 sports bike at an estimated 60mph on Two Mile Hill Road in May last year.

Bristol Crown Court heard he ricocheted off of a car before hurtling into cyclist Aurimas Minevicius.

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An expert vehicle examiner found the Kawasaki had a rear brake bracket which was sheared off and re-attached with a cable tie, loose steering and an under-inflated front tyre.

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hawkinspeter replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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brooksby wrote:

Apparently sometimes cable ties don't work...

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/speeding-biker-faulty-ma...

At least that motorcyclist is unlikely to do that again as:

Miss Evans defending wrote:

"He recognises the harm he caused to that gentleman.
He indicated regret and remorse in interview.
Miss Evans said her client would welcome a lifetime driving ban.
She added: "He won't be able, mentally or physically, to return to the road in any event."

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mdavidford | 2 years ago
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I'm imagining a DMZ along the border, with the Evil Cycling Lobby using loudspeakers to play pro-cycling propaganda across it into zone A.

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Organon | 2 years ago
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Mario's new skinsuit is amazingly detailed, incredible how technology has come on in the last 10 years.

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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"Any other handy workshop uses for cable ties?"

broken wtb rims according to wtjs !

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hawkinspeter replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Don't forget snow tyres (not recommended for rim brakes)

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AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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I don't know if the cars should have moved over for him but Ren deserves some punishment for filming a video off a computer screen. Lucky for him it wasn't in portrait otherwise it would have been a capital punishment offence. 

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Rendel Harris replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 2 years ago
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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

I don't know if the cars should have moved over for him but Ren deserves some punishment for filming a video off a computer screen. Lucky for him it wasn't in portrait otherwise it would have been a capital punishment offence. 

Sorry! I tried to pull it off the SD card yesterday morning but the computer kept saying it couldn't save it, so as I was in a hurry I filmed it with my phone. If I'd have known it would get 28,000 views I would have taken more time on it!

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Hirsute replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Quite enjoyed that thread.
"Some have even left their cars cluttering up the road whilst they go off for brunch. They should stick to race tracks and car parks."

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wtjs | 2 years ago
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The Kennys deserve it- I can't decide which of them is more superhuman, but Laura is such a tiny nuclear furnace of a powerhouse that for me she just wins it by a hair. They, like Hoy, Cav, and all the other heroes, have inspired and thrilled us over the years. Well done, all of you!

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wtjs | 2 years ago
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I am conflicted! I always wear a helmet, but I would not be taking any advice from some woman called Storm who is an 'influencer' on a Channel 5 programme that I wouldn't watch if it was the last TV programme on Earth. However, I strongly disagree with the barmy idea that a cracked helmet is no indication that the underlying brain would have been adversely affected by the impact because 'the skull is stronger than expanded polystyrene (or whatever it is)'. You can certainly damage the brain with an impact that does not fracture the skull, but the importance of a skull fracture is as an indication that the trauma was pretty bad so there probably is a traumatic brain injury, and may even be an extradural or subdural bleed.

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IanGlasgow replied to wtjs | 2 years ago
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The helmet almsot certainly reduced her injuries. That's a good thing and a good reason to wear a helmet.

But, promoting helmets is  - weridly - actively harmful. It promulgates the myth that transport cycling is dangerous (it isn't) resulting in fewer people cycling.
It also distracts from things that actually can make a significant difference; better infrastructure, better law enforcement, more ever penalties for those who break traffic laws.
In this case it's distracting from the actual cause of the accident - an, at best, careless driver. If the driver had been better trained, better skilled, more aware of cyclists the accident wouldn't have happened at all and arguments about helmets wouldn't be happening.

I'm off to comment on the Twitter thread - expressing sympathy for her injuries and anger with the careless driver who caused this. I won't be saying anything about helmets. I suggest we all do the same and flood the thread with people completely ignoring the ridiculous helmet arguments.

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Captain Badger replied to IanGlasgow | 2 years ago
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IanGlasgow wrote:

The helmet almsot certainly reduced her injuries. That's a good thing and a good reason to wear a helmet.

But, promoting helmets is  - weridly - actively harmful. It promulgates the myth that transport cycling is dangerous (it isn't) resulting in fewer people cycling.
It also distracts from things that actually can make a significant difference; better infrastructure, better law enforcement, more ever penalties for those who break traffic laws.
In this case it's distracting from the actual cause of the accident - an, at best, careless driver. If the driver had been better trained, better skilled, more aware of cyclists the accident wouldn't have happened at all and arguments about helmets wouldn't be happening.

I'm off to comment on the Twitter thread - expressing sympathy for her injuries and anger with the careless driver who caused this. I won't be saying anything about helmets. I suggest we all do the same and flood the thread with people completely ignoring the ridiculous helmet arguments.

I agree with everything you said, except for your first sentence.

We just aren't in a position to say that. The damage to the lid looked to me (on the picture that I saw) to be so minor as to be trivial, and not even definitely attributable to the collision - of which we know nothing, or next to nothing at most.

like I said, broad agreement, but teh prevailing culture of victim-blaming seems to put all of us on the defensive of lid efficacy, even when we are broadly sceptical.

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eburtthebike replied to IanGlasgow | 2 years ago
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IanGlasgow wrote:

The helmet almsot certainly reduced her injuries. That's a good thing and a good reason to wear a helmet.

You're right, it probably did.  But it probably prevented only superficial injuries, as helmets don't prevent concussion or brain injury, and they can exacerbate the most dangerous brain injuries, rotational.

There is only one reliable metric for helmets; the death rate, and that does not fall as helmet wearing rates increase, so despite all the "helmet saved my life" stories, they don't save lives.

The rest of your post is spot on though, especially the emphasis given to the helmet supposedly protecting her, when the most important thing is the driver knocking her off, which barely gets a mention.

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TheBillder replied to eburtthebike | 2 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

The rest of your post is spot on though, especially the emphasis given to the helmet supposedly protecting her, when the most important thing is the driver knocking her off, which barely gets a mention.

I came here for an argument and that's barely even a contradiction.

This site has gone so downhill.

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Hirsute replied to TheBillder | 2 years ago
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Don't worry it will be ok on Saturday !

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Captain Badger replied to TheBillder | 2 years ago
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TheBillder wrote:

I came here for an argument and that's barely even a contradiction.

This site has gone so downhill.

No you didn't, and yes there is.
No it hasn't.

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wycombewheeler replied to Captain Badger | 2 years ago
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Captain Badger wrote:
TheBillder wrote:

I came here for an argument and that's barely even a contradiction. This site has gone so downhill.

No you didn't, and yes there is. No it hasn't.

thats not an argument, thats just repetitive denial.

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Captain Badger replied to wycombewheeler | 2 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:
TheBillder wrote:

I came here for an argument and that's barely even a contradiction. This site has gone so downhill.

No you didn't, and yes there is. No it hasn't.

thats not an argument, thats just repetitive denial.

Well you would say that wouldn't you

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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I see JV is coming up with examples to demonstrate Schrodinger's Cyclist...

edit: just realised that the Live Blog headline was that very same comment! 

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brooksby | 2 years ago
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Are you sure that's laura and jason on that photo? 

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Geoff Ingram replied to brooksby | 2 years ago
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I'm more concerned about the actual honours. Surely should be same for both. Either both knighted or both damed.

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wycombewheeler replied to Geoff Ingram | 2 years ago
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Geoff Ingram wrote:

I'm more concerned about the actual honours. Surely should be same for both. Either both knighted or both damed.

by this logic should Elizabeth be King Elizabeth?  Since Dame is just the female version of Knight

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Hirsute | 2 years ago
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"wearing a helmet to prevent head injury is just common sense"

I guess we should all be wearing them, all the time then !

What is common sense then? When I come across it, it is used to mean 'this is something I know that you don't know'.

Presumably 'common sense' would include a full assessment of all the risks, how to mitigate them, a review of all consequences and a behavioural review.

Let's have another debate (not)

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Awavey replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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I cant help read those "Its just common sense" lines not in a Chris Morris Brass Eye or Simpsons Troy McClure voice style...its just good science  3

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yourealwaysbe replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

Presumably 'common sense' would include a full assessment of all the risks, how to mitigate them, a review of all consequences and a behavioural review.

This is somehow exactly what "common sense" is not. To put it positively, common sense is what everyone can see, even if they're not an expert. More negatively (and more fun and usually not intended), it's what people think when they have no expertise.

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IanMK replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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Apart from the Helmet debate Storm Huntley thinks that being knocked off her bike by a car turning left was an accident. If she actually said this on the BBC as a BBC employee I think it would breach reporting guidelines. I think cycling can do without Storm as a spokesperson. 

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Simon E replied to IanMK | 2 years ago
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IanMK wrote:

Apart from the Helmet debate Storm Huntley thinks that being knocked off her bike by a car turning left was an accident.

No suggestion that the driver should behave more responsibly; it's just "an accident".

She then repeated her advice to cyclists about how they should wear a polystyrene hat, as if it might prevent drivers hitting them. Not clever. surprise

Yesterday morning I was nearly hit by a driver on a mini-roundabout because she was going too fast and wasn't looking out for anything smaller than a car. My bright yellow jersey obviously wasn't big enough.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Simon E | 2 years ago
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Yep, tweeting advice out on the helmet, stating it was only an accident and then also stating her BF now stops her riding at all and she would have done the same for him if the same had happened, so essentially has been scared off the roads. 

So essntially perpetuating the myth that cycling is very dangerous whilst not blaming the reason for why it might be seen that way, and then deciding she is never going to cycle again for commuting purposes instead of asked for better infra / rules / enforcement so she could. 

As for the "Accident" and the pic, I'm trying to understand how she cracked the back right of her helmet if knocked off by a left turning car. Did she go right over the bonnet? Was she cycling off a pavement/ along a two way cycle path and was hit by left turning car into junction which pushed her right? Either way, still can't understand why she just wants to treat it like an accident.

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sheridan replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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How have I never noticed Helmet Row?  It's only a couple of roads past Look Mum No Hands!

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