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Jeremy Vine red light cyclist crash
Jeremy Vine) (Image Credit: Twitter/Jeremy Vine)

Jeremy Vine collision “caused by a cyclist going through a red light”; Colnago’s new bike is a hymn, a quest and a work of art (apparently); Would you let an eight-year-old cycle here?; Bike shop owner’s £15,000 “kick in the teeth” + more on the live blog

It’s Thursday and Dan Alexander is in the hot seat for all your live blog needs
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Mar 02, 2023 09:14
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SUMMARY

  • Strade Bianche fever
  • A hymn, a quest that never stops, a work of art... Colnago's new bike (in their own words)...
  • "Would you let an eight-year-old cycle here?": Some classic British cycling infrastructure
  • Bike shop owner's £15,000 "kick in the teeth" break-in
  • Three years in jail for pedestrian convicted of manslaughter after cyclist's death
  • Strav-uh?
  • "Drugs (prescription) and make-up worked wonders": Dan Walker makes hosting reappearance a week on from cycling collision
  • The Ribble Collective: British brand sets up multi-discipline, multi-gender team (but not a team) of privateers
  • "We're going to need a bigger box"
  • Denim shorts?!
  • Jeremy Vine collision "caused by a cyclist going through a red light"
Jeremy Vine red light cyclist crash
Jeremy Vine) (Image Credit: Twitter/Jeremy Vine)
2 March 2023, 09:14

Strade Bianche fever

Everyone’s favourite race (and when I say ‘everyone’, I mean my favourite race) is two days away… maybe it’s the time of year, the start of the Classics season, spring almost in the air… maybe it’s just that it’s a bloody great race. I’m not the only one either, Strade Bianche fever is spreading…

Oh no. My friend’s wedding and Strade Bianchi are on at the same time. Should I ask them to move it? (the wedding, not the race).

— Belinda (@reallyspoketome) March 1, 2023

Riders who have finished 9th at Strade Bianche:

Fuglsang
Van der Breggen
Pinot
Van Vleuten
Van Avermaet
Niewiadoma
Poels
Lloyd#StradeBianche

— Daniel Lloyd (@daniellloyd1) March 2, 2023

Two days out means time for the inevitable debate: should Strade Bianche be a Monument? And while I’m a huge fan of the race and all for an extra ‘big one’ on the calendar… what is this blasphemy?

This is the hottest take I have ever seen in response to having Strade Bianche as a monument. 😂 https://t.co/oNZpWy3kMf

— Benji Naesen (@BenjiNaesen) March 1, 2023

2 March 2023, 09:14

A hymn, a quest that never stops, a work of art... Colnago's new bike (in their own words)...

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by COLNAGO (@colnagoworld)

 Colnago has a new bike out…

> Colnago introduces C68 Allroad for the “light off-road” market

Designed for both tarmac and light off-road use (as opposed to full-on gravel use), the C68 Allroad is, according to Colnago, “a hymn to this constant search for beauty”…

“A quest that never stops, not even when the asphalt ends. Fall in love with this new model, the first built to go smooth on both asphalt and light off-road.

“The pursuit of beauty is what drives us to ride our bikes, to lose ourselves in the streets outside the city, to seek out new routes and new landscapes. Beauty is also the emotion we seek in every single product we make. A bicycle for us is a work of art. We take care of its proportions, details, materials, and construction processes… and the C68 is the epitome of this concept.”

Just make sure you’ve got a spare €15,335 before you begin your quest…

2 March 2023, 09:14

"Would you let an eight-year-old cycle here?": Some classic British cycling infrastructure

The A34 in Stockport looks fun…

Classic British cycle lane – would you let an 8 year old cycle here? pic.twitter.com/7RkpwBHqmu

— Iain Roberts @slowbikeiain@urbanists.social (@slowbikeiain) March 1, 2023

Elsewhere…

The A34 has some whoppers… pic.twitter.com/W0CiLRppLt

— Nathaniel Cleland (@bellezzasolocle) March 1, 2023

But perhaps it’s a sign that things are (slowly) moving in the right direction regarding active travel infrastructure here in the UK that Stockport’s council has details on its website of upgrades to this route, including a 5.6km pedestrian and cycle route along the A34 corridor.

“This includes a segregated cycle track and controlled crossings with connections to the wider Greater Manchester Cycle Bee Network and local public rights of way,” the council promises, and the drawings also show a 3m-wide cycleway between the roundabout and Etchells Road, along one particularly charming stretch of the A34 (below)…

A34 Stockport (Google Maps)
A34 Stockport (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
A34 Stockport (Google Maps)
A34 Stockport (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A34 Stockport (Google Maps)
A34 Stockport (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
A34 Stockport (Google Maps)
A34 Stockport (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 The major roundabout at the top of the route is to be made easier for cyclists and pedestrians to negotiate too, with improved crossings and shared-use paths, leading to the stretch of cycle lane mentioned previously and this…

A34 plan (Stockport council)
A34 plan (Stockport council) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
A34 plan (Stockport council)
A34 plan (Stockport council) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Fair enough, I’d let my imaginary eight-year-old cycle along that… even if they’ll probably be a teenager by the time anything like that’s built around here…

Let’s cross our fingers the completed project doesn’t end up back on the live blog for a sarcastic kicking when pictures of the botched project go viral among Twitter’s cycling community… c’mon Stockport Council, we’re all rooting for you…

2 March 2023, 09:14

Bike shop owner's £15,000 "kick in the teeth" break-in

Bridport Cycles website
Bridport Cycles website (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Bridport Cycles website
Bridport Cycles website (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A bike shop owner in Dorset has spoken out about the “unsettling” burglary which saw thieves make off with £15,000 worth of goods from Bridport Cycles last weekend. Robert Stobart told the Briport & Lyme Regis News the break-in is “another kick in the teeth” following a “slow winter”.

“All bike shops seem to get broken into eventually, but it was kind of the unexpected expected,” he said. “Coming off a slow winter and then for this to happen is another kick in the teeth. It is a bit unsettling, you kind of start double-checking everything and feeling insecure. Hopefully, it’s a one-off.

“They broke the padlock on an external door and the lock on the internal door. This is a quiet area, so no-one heard the alarm. Police have been really great. The forensic guy came out in a couple of hours and the police took a statement later that evening.”

The shop was broken into between 5pm on Friday 24 February and 2pm on Sunday 26 February, with parts, e-bikes and a turquoise Yeti SB150 mountain bike valued at around £6,000 taken.

“I would urge anyone who saw or heard any unusual activity in the area to please come forward,” police constable Jack White, of West Dorset police said.

“I understand a white van was seen acting suspiciously in the vicinity during the night on Saturday, February 2023 and I am keen to hear from anyone who may have captured either the van or anything of relevance on dashcam or CCTV footage. Also, I would like to speak to anyone who has seen one of the bikes matching the descriptions given for sale locally in unusual circumstances.”

Those with information are asked to contact Dorset Police at www.dorset.police.uk/contact or by calling 101, quoting occurrence number 55230030768.

2 March 2023, 09:14

Three years in jail for pedestrian convicted of manslaughter after cyclist's death

Celia Ward falls into path of car after being confronted by Auriol Grey (via Cambridgeshire Constabulary and BBC News)
Celia Ward falls into path of car after being confronted by Auriol Grey (via Cambridgeshire Constabulary and BBC News) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Celia Ward falls into path of car after being confronted by Auriol Grey (via Cambridgeshire Constabulary and BBC News)
Celia Ward falls into path of car after being confronted by Auriol Grey (via Cambridgeshire Constabulary and BBC News) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Three years in jail for pedestrian convicted of manslaughter after cyclist’s death

2 March 2023, 09:14

Strav-uh?

Strava recorded some night time activities. pic.twitter.com/XcKkGYEd4L

— Cybergibbons 🚲🚲🚲 (@cybergibbons) March 2, 2023

Too many childish jokes to be made here…

But “with someone who didn’t record?” takes the biscuit…

2 March 2023, 09:14

"Drugs (prescription) and make-up worked wonders": Dan Walker makes hosting reappearance a week on from cycling collision

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by Dan Walker (@mrdanwalker)

 Good use of a bracket there by Mr Walker, wouldn’t want to get the wrong idea about what goes on at awards nights…

If you were away on a desert island last week…

> Dan Walker “glad to be alive” after being hit by a driver while cycling

> Motorists blame crash victim Dan Walker for not riding on underpass cycle lane – described by locals as “filled with broken glass”

> Why is Dan Walker’s claim that a bike helmet saved his life so controversial?

2 March 2023, 09:14

The Ribble Collective: British brand sets up multi-discipline, multi-gender team (but not a team) of privateers

Ribble Collective
Ribble Collective (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ribble Collective
Ribble Collective (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Ribble has set up the Collective, its new athlete support model, months on from the end of the Ribble Weldtite Pro Cycling team. “Rather than a traditional cycling team,” Ribble explained. “This new multi-discipline, multi-gender, community of riders sees each member of the Ribble Collective compete as a privateer, albeit within the foundations of a traditional team structure.

“Each rider gains the support of their fellow cyclists, and the Ribble brand, yet is given complete flexibility to craft their own season.”

Ribble Collective
Ribble Collective (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ribble Collective
Ribble Collective (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“For 2023, we had the vision to look at the cycling landscape creatively and introduce this model, allowing us to work in close collaboration with each individual rider and support them to achieve their own riding goals. We are really excited about the future of the Ribble Collective and we feel we have built a strong, diverse and varied roster of riders for the 2023 season,” Neil Pinkawa, Ribble’s head of brand marketing said.

Riders can choose their own calendar and their own personal sponsorships but will be aboard the respective Ribble bikes, Ultra SL R, Endurance SL R, Gravel SL and Ultra Tri with a flash new colourway and in Collective-coloured kit.

Writing on his blog, one of the riders involved, Joe Laverick, sought to address if his new ‘team’, which includes former Ribble Weldtite pro and YouTuber Cameron Jeffers, is “just a bunch of influencers, or a group of privateers who are racing to win?” and quite amusingly said it’s not just another gravel group trying to sound cool.

“Away from kit, wheels are another area where the Collective has ‘partners’, not sponsors,” he explained. “I will be riding Mavic wheels this year, who are a partner of the Collective. However, Cam Jeffers is using Halo Wheels, Maddy Nutt is using Parcours.

“The freedom that this project gives us riders is refreshing. Ribble could quite easily have contractually obliged us to use company X, Y or Z and locked us into those deals. Yet, they wanted to do it different and give us freedom.”

Just a bunch of influencers, or a group of privateers who are racing to win?

My latest Substack goes into detail about the @RibbleCycles Collective and what it’s all about.

cc. @BritishConti @VeloUK @Monument_HQ https://t.co/voqiOvG6aS

— Joe Laverick (@JoeLavo) March 2, 2023 

2 March 2023, 09:14

"We're going to need a bigger box"

8:30am. 02 March 2023 – 2 degrees. We’re going to need a bigger box… pic.twitter.com/7KycM4TatV

— Rory McCarron (@CyclingLawLDN) March 2, 2023

2 March 2023, 09:14

Denim shorts?!

Apologies for the somewhat sparse live blog this afternoon, turns out there’s big news elsewhere…

AG2R Rosti denim bib shorts (Pauline Ballet/ AG2R Citroën)
AG2R Citroën) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
AG2R Rosti denim bib shorts (Pauline Ballet/ AG2R Citroën)
AG2R Citroën) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[Pauline Ballet/ AG2R Citroën]

> AG2R Citroën to race Strade Bianche in denim bib shorts

2 March 2023, 09:14

Jeremy Vine collision "caused by a cyclist going through a red light"

Following on from yesterday’s story, we’ve got some more Vine for you on today’s live blog…

My first collision of the year, and it’s caused by a cyclist going through a red light. pic.twitter.com/H9oRrpdJpE

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 1, 2023

In the footage the presenter and another rider can be seen getting in a tangle after stopping suddenly when a third cyclist continued through a red light as they tried to cross. And while seeing the video instantly filled us with a sense of dread heading into the comments, for the most part they were less… what’s the word? Heated? Divided? Toxic? Whatever the word is, there was far less of that than usual…

In fairness to all involved, the lawbreaking cyclist posed no real danger; the impact was minor; and I made a new friend. If this had been three drivers coming together, there would have been a fist-fight, an insurance claim, and a jam at Marble Arch backing up to Victoria.

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 1, 2023

That was the most polite collision I’ve ever seen. Glad no one was hurt.

— Lisa (@cowphilosopher) March 2, 2023

And although the stats are hardly perfect, Beyond The Kerb notes the similar figures when looking at red light jumping — a Direct Line Survey suggesting 14 per cent of drivers jump a red light at least twice a month, while a Sunday Times operation put the percentage of cyclists who jump red lights at 10 per cent. Those figures are admittedly somewhat outdated now, coming from 10 years ago, but a 2018 survey by uSwitch found that a fifth of motorists versus a quarter of cyclists admitted to running a red light in the year previous.

Of course, there is also the question of risk, as while in Vine’s case a cyclist jumping a red light did cause a collision, the amount of serious injuries caused by cyclists jumping red lights is low. Here are the wider pedestrian casualty figures for 2016 to 2021, broken down by secondary vehicle type, which suggests cyclists pose considerably less risk to pedestrians than most other road users…

Pedestrian casualty figures 2016-2021 (Department for Transport)
Pedestrian casualty figures 2016-2021 (Department for Transport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Pedestrian casualty figures 2016-2021 (Department for Transport)
Pedestrian casualty figures 2016-2021 (Department for Transport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

2 March 2023, 09:14

Colnago introduces C68 Allroad for the “light off-road” market

Colnago introduces C68 Allroad for the “light off-road” market

New model based on the C68 Road comes with endurance geometry and space for 35mm tyres

2 March 2023, 09:14

Business owner claims active travel schemes will "kill trade" as council considers closing roads to motor traffic

Business owner claims active travel schemes will "kill trade" as council considers closing roads to motor traffic

Sheffield City Council published its plans for better bike lanes and less traffic this week

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  1. ChuckSneed
    March 2, 2023 at 10:45 am
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    Cycle lanes should not be on
    Cycle lanes should not be on A roads. They just encourage inexperienced cyclists to go on them. Everyone is allowed to ride on the A road, so just leave it to the more confident cyclists who aren’t afraid of being bullied by cars when taking the primary in the middle of the lane.

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    • Boopop
      March 2, 2023 at 11:18 am
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      I wish we had more like this.

      I wish we had more like this. Always look to the Netherlands! Cambridgeshire has some pretty good shared use paths (which rarely have walkers anyway) next to busy trunk roads but they’re not quite as good as the above N204 example from my limited experience. Cyclists should absolutely be able to use the same direct routes as drivers, they just need to be well separated from traffic.

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      • HoarseMann
        March 2, 2023 at 11:30 am
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        These cycle paths in the

        These cycle paths in the Netherlands are like small roads alongside the main road, they are great and work really well, catering to mopeds as well as farm traffic, tractors etc.

        This makes the main road safer, because now that slower traffic has it’s own road, there’s less need for overtaking – so it’s banned, with roads like this having a double white line down the centre.

        Coupled with a low speed limit of 60kph (37mph), the chances of a collision are vastly reduced for all road users.

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    • nosferatu1001
      March 2, 2023 at 12:05 pm
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      That isn’t a cycle lane, it’s

      That isn’t a cycle lane, it’s a painted murder strip. 
      I agree they shouldn’t be there, on any road ideally. 

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      • The Accountant
        March 2, 2023 at 12:16 pm
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        It isn’t a murder strip, stop
        It isn’t a murder strip, stop it with the ridiculous over-emotional meltdown. It’s all ill-advised piece of infrastructure at worst.

        As I’ve already said, councils should prioritise potholes over these silly virtue-signalling cycling projects. It’s no surprise to see this one on Chris Boardman’s (the ineffective and terminally wrong “cycling tzar”) former stomping ground.

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        • the little onion
          March 2, 2023 at 12:18 pm
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          Nope. It’s definately a

          Nope. It’s definately a murder strip. It’s:

          -a painted lane with no physical (bollards etc) or distance segregation

          -exceedingly narrow (handlebar width or less

          -on a busy and fast (50mph) road

          Pretty much the definition of murderstrip there.

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        • lesterama
          March 2, 2023 at 3:31 pm
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          It is a murder strip. Its

          It is a murder strip. Its design will lead to deaths. Simple.

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        • nosferatu1001
          March 2, 2023 at 8:14 pm
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          The Accountant wrote:

          It isn’t a murder strip, stop it with the ridiculous over-emotional meltdown. It’s all ill-advised piece of infrastructure at worst. As I’ve already said, councils should prioritise potholes over these silly virtue-signalling cycling projects. It’s no surprise to see this one on Chris Boardman’s (the ineffective and terminally wrong “cycling tzar”) former stomping ground.

          — The Accountant

          it’s mere preeence provably increases the risk of death and injury for cyclists by a material amount. 
           

          your failure to give a shit about cyclists is noted.  Kindly fuck off 

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    • mattw
      March 2, 2023 at 12:22 pm
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      We have good guidelines in

      We have good guidelines in place in England, which need to be followed.

      Scotland, -ish but less good.

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    • wycombewheeler
      March 2, 2023 at 2:16 pm
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      Obvious troll is obvious
      Obvious troll is obvious

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    • EraserBike
      March 2, 2023 at 4:12 pm
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      Agree – Painted cycle lanes

      Agree – Painted cycle lanes are worse than useless in 90% of cases. This is definitely part of that majority.

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  2. the little onion
    March 2, 2023 at 12:03 pm
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    Update on killer pedestrian

    Update on killer pedestrian Auriol Grey, whose aggression led to the death of 77-year old Celia Ward

     

    Grey has been sentenced to 3 years in prison:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-64824436

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    • mattw
      March 2, 2023 at 12:22 pm
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      That’s a classic of cyclist

      That’s a classic of cyclist and pedestrian lobbies forced to scrabble over the scraps from the motor table.

      Cycles, tricycles etc as mobility aids, which are far less disruptive than mobility scooters. and their appropriate use as mobility aids on pavements, and cycle tracks as suitable routes for mobility scooters if properly designed, need to be big themes in the current “accessible transport” select committee enquiry.

      Well covered in the latest road.cc podcast.

      You have until 20 March to submit evidence.

      https://committees.parliament.uk/work/6805/accessible-transport-legal-obligations/

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      • Nagai74
        March 5, 2023 at 9:57 am
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        Should mobility scooter

        Should mobility scooter riders wear hi-viz, be insured, have registration plates and pay ‘road tax’?

        I saw this on my commute home a few weeks ago. ? https://youtu.be/XLFOIx4QAKA

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    • brooksby
      March 2, 2023 at 12:37 pm
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      Quote:

      Miranda Moore KC, who said in mitigation for Grey that “she does not pose a risk or danger to the public”, stated she would be making an appeal against the sentence.

      Is that, “unless the public are riding a bike”? 

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      • muhasib
        March 2, 2023 at 1:25 pm
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        To be accurate the KC should

        To be accurate the KC should have added the word ‘anymore’ at the end of her statement and even that would be an aspiration based on the evidence.

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        • brooksby
          March 2, 2023 at 1:38 pm
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          I do wonder how often, “My

          I do wonder how often, “My client does not pose a risk or danger to the public any more” is used in manslaughter cases where it’s not Pedestrian vs Cyclist….

          (edit) and if it ever works.

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    • carlosdsanchez
      March 2, 2023 at 1:36 pm
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      That looks to be a longer

      That looks to be a longer sentance than had she been driving a car, mounted the pavement and killed the cyclist.

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      • chrisonabike
        March 2, 2023 at 2:08 pm
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        I believe there are cases of

        I believe there are cases of people killing pedestrians by driving on the footway which have not resulted in a custodial sentence (someone else can fish out the links?)  So driving into a cyclists on the footway (or even what may be a “shared space”) is even less likely to be an issue.

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        • Rendel Harris
          March 2, 2023 at 4:13 pm
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          chrisonatrike wrote:

          I believe there are cases of people killing pedestrians by driving on the footway which have not resulted in a custodial sentence (someone else can fish out the links?) 

          — chrisonatrike

          Sadly there was one settled just yesterday in Scotland, killed a 60-year-old community worker and seriously injured three others from a family walking to their Boxing Day meal on the pavement. “Momentary lapse of attention”. 100 hours community service and a 12 month ban.

          https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/scottish-news/23356565.range-rover-driver-caused-death-pedestrian-avoids-jail/

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          • wtjs
            March 2, 2023 at 4:55 pm
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            “Momentary lapse of attention

            “Momentary lapse of attention”. 100 hours community service and a 12 month ban.

            This confirms what we and all the shyster defence lawyers already know: be a toff and work on your presentation of remorse, and you’re off! In this case she added ‘does not intend to drive again’, an undertaking she will obviously break after a while with ‘at the time I didn’t intend to drive again’.

        • ktache
          March 2, 2023 at 7:42 pm
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          There was one where a lorry

          There was one where a lorry driver was parking on the pavement and ran over a little girl wearing pink on a scooter in front of her mother.

          Got off Scott free if I recall.

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    • wycombewheeler
      March 2, 2023 at 2:26 pm
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      Quote:

      The trial was told that police could not “categorically” state whether the pavement was a shared cycleway

      What?

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  3. cdl
    March 2, 2023 at 1:13 pm
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    As a Stockport resident

    As a Stockport resident living close to the A34, I’m somewhat apprehensive about the proposed plans. Not so much about the scheme itself but the potential for the Council to screw it up, like this one which somehow won an award

    🚲 🚶 The MCF-funded Bramhall Park to A6 walking and cycling scheme was a winner at the national ‘Highways Awards’ that took place last week.

    The scheme picked up the ‘Active Travel Scheme of the Year’ award.

    cc @OfficialTfGM pic.twitter.com/dD5ZyJSR4k

    — Stockport Council (@StockportMBC) October 27, 2022

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  4. Owd Big 'Ead
    March 2, 2023 at 1:18 pm
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    Jeremy Vine talking bollocks
    Jeremy Vine talking bollocks again.
    “If this had been three drivers coming together, there would have been a fist-fight, an insurance claim, and a jam at Marble Arch backing up to Victoria.”
    Fist-fight?
    Why does he feel the need to talk utter crap?
    If he’s such a clairvoyant I’d better ask him for tomorrow’s Euromillions numbers.
    Do people really fall for this claptrap?

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    • NotNigel
      March 2, 2023 at 1:49 pm
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      …

      …

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    • Safifi
      March 2, 2023 at 3:05 pm
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      Owd Big ‘Ead wrote:

      Jeremy Vine talking bollocks again. “If this had been three drivers coming together, there would have been a fist-fight, an insurance claim, and a jam at Marble Arch backing up to Victoria.” Fist-fight? Why does he feel the need to talk utter crap? If he’s such a clairvoyant I’d better ask him for tomorrow’s Euromillions numbers. Do people really fall for this claptrap?

      — Owd Big 'Ead

      Because he is a gobshite

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  5. Dbloke
    March 2, 2023 at 1:41 pm
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    I cycle round Manchester A

    I cycle round Manchester A LOT, we have a load of questionablie cycle lanes, Ashton new road is a fun one. They like to give us sharp turns with no actual room to turn
    Heading towards Ashton right near Snipe we have a sharp left turn that you will miss as its hidden, miss it and your in the tramlines.
    Just after Droyseden shopping center is a good un
    To avoid the tram lines (its a thing) you come off the road round the back of the tram station then the off part has a whooping great piller on the off ramp meaning you cant look for traffic you have to keep tabs on that.
    Town center?
    Feck no, unless you like having to cross busy buss lanes

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  6. wycombewheeler
    March 2, 2023 at 2:06 pm
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    Quote:

    A bike shop owner in Dorset has spoken out about the “unsettling” burglary which saw thieves make off with £15,000 worth of goods

    Why did they only take one or two bikes?

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  7. The Accountant
    March 2, 2023 at 3:49 pm
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    Why is Road.cc publishing

    Why is Road.cc publishing dodgy statistics pretending that red light jumping is as common amongst motorists as cyclists?

    Just stand at any junction, anywhere in the country (especially London where Vine was filming), where there is any kind of volume of cycling and motoring traffic and you’ll immediately see that red light jumping is far more prevalent and blatent amongst cyclists than any other mode of transport.

    Pretending otherwise will undermine other serious issues, as people don’t believe statistics once they’ve been presented with fabricated or spurious data.

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    • Daveyraveygravey
      March 2, 2023 at 3:53 pm
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      Bollocks.  Are you a troll? 

      Bollocks.  Are you a troll?  Or just another blinkered driver?

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      • Rendel Harris
        March 2, 2023 at 4:08 pm
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        Hey, don’t go pigeonholing

        Hey, don’t go pigeonholing him – he can easily be both.

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        • Browsie
          March 3, 2023 at 10:21 am
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          Quite easily!, It would, I
          Quite easily!, It would, I guess be dependent on which one of his two brain cells were engaged at any particular moment .

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      • chrisonabike
        March 2, 2023 at 4:12 pm
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        Well, we can’t *know* if that
        Well, we can’t *know* if that account is used by a blinkered driver, but …

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      • chrisonabike
        March 2, 2023 at 4:16 pm
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        The stats could as usual do
        The stats could as usual do with some explanation (the coding of “involved in collision”). Some kind of *rate* is useful to know as well, and finally this will then lead to more questions of course and a desire for more detailed data. Plus of course “what might happen if you change things”?

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    • Bigfoz
      March 2, 2023 at 5:00 pm
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      Scope out any set of lights

      Scope out any set of lights around the country and watch how many car drivers go through after the amber goes red.  If you think this is a mainly cyclist problem, you;tre very much mistaken. 

      Cyclists may do more blatant “in the middle of the red” forays, but just after a light goes red is a dangerous time on British roads. My favourite (I was in my van), was the guy #6 in the queue of red light jumpers, who when I tooted him (half way through my green and still unable to move) went absolutely ballistic in his little car. Should have driven over him.
       

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    • perce
      March 2, 2023 at 6:36 pm
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      Yawn yawn, yawnie yawn yawn,

      Yawn yawn, yawnie yawn yawn, yawn yawn. Yawnie mcyawn, yawn. Times infinity. Cubed

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    • Rich_cb
      March 2, 2023 at 7:34 pm
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      I don’t think the statistics
      I don’t think the statistics are dodgy.

      They’re not showing how likely a vehicle is to jump a red light but how likely a vehicle is to injure someone whilst doing so.

      Bicycles caused 0.6% of fatalities and 2% of total injuries whilst cycling made up 2% of trips and 1% of miles (2018).

      So bicycles appear to be less likely to kill pedestrians than other RLJing vehicles but more likely to injure them.

      Given the physics involved it stands to reason that cyclists are probably disproportionately involved in collisions with pedestrians due to RLJing.

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    • giff77
      March 2, 2023 at 9:08 pm
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      The junction below my old

      The junction below my old flat would see motorists jumping the red light on any leg with impunity. One leg was particularly bad where you would see up to half a dozen at a time.  Some accelerating hard to speeds of 50 mph  the council in their infinite wisdom extended the double yellows “to aid visibility and increase the amount of road available to moving vehicles”  All they did was facilitate two lanes of light jumping motorists. This is not the only problematic junction in the area.  Many others suffer from this blasé attitude towards traffic lights.  

       

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      • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
        March 2, 2023 at 7:30 pm
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        giff77 wrote:

        The junction below my old flat would see motorists jumping the red light on any leg with impunity. One leg was particularly bad where you would see up to half a dozen at a time.  Some accelerating hard to speeds of 5mph  the council in their infinite wisdom extended the double yellows “to aid visibility and increase the amount of road available to moving vehicles”  All they did was facilitate two lanes of light jumping motorists. This is not the only problematic junction in the area.  Many others suffer from this blasé attitude towards traffic lights.  

         

        — giff77

        Junction by us (last crumb for the locals) has the motorists from Peppard Rd into Caversham jump the lights Every. Single. Time. They speed up to do it. I’ve been beeped multiple times by drivers for not jumping them when the driver behind wants to go through on red and me stopping also stops them (both on the bike and when driving).

        The worst thing about this is that the lights are not phased for pedestrians despite being between a school and a park. Apparently it’s too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it’ll make drivers angry).

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        • Secret_squirrel
          March 2, 2023 at 7:43 pm
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          JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote

          . Apparently it’s too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it’ll make drivers angry).

          — JustTryingToGetFromAtoB

          Matt Rodda’s picked this up as an issue so there might be some movement on it soonish….

          Theres also a great oppportunity there to create a cycle link from Westfield road park to Balmore Walk  & NCN5 if done right.

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          • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
            March 2, 2023 at 7:51 pm
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            Secret_squirrel wrote:

            . Apparently it’s too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it’ll make drivers angry).

            — Secret_squirrel

            Matt Rodda’s picked this up as an issue so there might be some movement on it soonish….

            Theres also a great oppportunity there to create a cycle link from Westfield road park to Balmore Walk  & NCN5 if done right.— JustTryingToGetFromAtoB

            I signed the petition… though I heard it got stick at the budget for scoping the issue I’m not holding out much hope. It could pay for itself if they put cameras on the junction to catch the RLJs.

        • nosferatu1001
          March 2, 2023 at 8:02 pm
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          JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote

          The junction below my old flat would see motorists jumping the red light on any leg with impunity. One leg was particularly bad where you would see up to half a dozen at a time.  Some accelerating hard to speeds of 5mph  the council in their infinite wisdom extended the double yellows “to aid visibility and increase the amount of road available to moving vehicles”  All they did was facilitate two lanes of light jumping motorists. This is not the only problematic junction in the area.  Many others suffer from this blasé attitude towards traffic lights.  

           

          — JustTryingToGetFromAtoB Junction by us (last crumb for the locals) has the motorists from Peppard Rd into Caversham jump the lights Every. Single. Time. They speed up to do it. I’ve been beeped multiple times by drivers for not jumping them when the driver behind wants to go through on red and me stopping also stops them (both on the bike and when driving). The worst thing about this is that the lights are not phased for pedestrians despite being between a school and a park. Apparently it’s too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it’ll make drivers angry).— giff77

          oh that’s a terrible junction. That who,e road down to Waitrose is knackered, and the cycling provision over the bridge is shocking

          yoir post the other day reminds me I need to do the Hardwick house loop again though, that downhill to the mill is lovely. 

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          • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
            March 2, 2023 at 8:10 pm
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            nosferatu1001 wrote:

            The junction below my old flat would see motorists jumping the red light on any leg with impunity. One leg was particularly bad where you would see up to half a dozen at a time.  Some accelerating hard to speeds of 5mph  the council in their infinite wisdom extended the double yellows “to aid visibility and increase the amount of road available to moving vehicles”  All they did was facilitate two lanes of light jumping motorists. This is not the only problematic junction in the area.  Many others suffer from this blasé attitude towards traffic lights.  

             

            — nosferatu1001

            Junction by us (last crumb for the locals) has the motorists from Peppard Rd into Caversham jump the lights Every. Single. Time. They speed up to do it. I’ve been beeped multiple times by drivers for not jumping them when the driver behind wants to go through on red and me stopping also stops them (both on the bike and when driving). The worst thing about this is that the lights are not phased for pedestrians despite being between a school and a park. Apparently it’s too difficult to make it safe for pedestrians (which translates as it’ll make drivers angry).

            — JustTryingToGetFromAtoB

            oh that’s a terrible junction. That who,e road down to Waitrose is knackered, and the cycling provision over the bridge is shocking

            yoir post the other day reminds me I need to do the Hardwick house loop again though, that downhill to the mill is lovely. 

            — giff77

            I think that was Ktache rather than me, but I know it well!

            Edit: a must for Sabbath fans

        • giff77
          March 2, 2023 at 9:16 pm
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          It’s actually terrifying when

          It’s actually terrifying when you’re stopping and you can here the car behind start to skid. It got to a stage for me to take a quick shoulder check and pull to the left in the middle of the junction to avoid being hit. Other times I’ve dealt with the close pass as the motorist swerves pass me and I’ve stopped. And then I have to read our two DFLs pontificate about cyclists jumping lights. ???

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    • andystow
      March 3, 2023 at 4:01 am
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      The Accountant wrote:

      Why is Road.cc publishing dodgy statistics pretending that red light jumping is as common amongst motorists as cyclists?

      Just stand at any junction, anywhere in the country (especially London where Vine was filming), where there is any kind of volume of cycling and motoring traffic and you’ll immediately see that red light jumping is far more prevalent and blatent amongst cyclists than any other mode of transport.

      Pretending otherwise will undermine other serious issues, as people don’t believe statistics once they’ve been presented with fabricated or spurious data.

      — The Accountant

      It’s simple geometry. If twenty cyclists get to a red light, and five want to run it, five will run it.

      If twenty motorists get to a red light, and nineteen would run it but the first one in the queue stops, zero will run it. They’re not law abiding, they’re just stuck.

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      • Rendel Harris
        March 3, 2023 at 6:44 am
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        andystow wrote:

        It’s simple geometry. If twenty cyclists get to a red light, and five want to run it, five will run it. If twenty motorists get to a red light, and nineteen would run it but the first one in the queue stops, zero will run it. They’re not law abiding, they’re just stuck.

        — andystow

        Very good point, I’m sure many readers ride out early on quiet Sunday mornings and have experience of the way in which many motorists approach red lights when the opportunity to jump them is available.

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        • ktache
          March 5, 2023 at 10:34 am
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          It would be interesting to

          It would be interesting to find out how far some of them are driving over the speed limit too.

           

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  8. PRSboy
    March 2, 2023 at 4:43 pm
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    Oi Vine!  That’s double

    Oi Vine!  That’s double standards, considering the videos of non-events involving cars/buses he puts on Twitter.  That cyclist most definitely posed a danger to the pedestrians who might have walked out in front of her, not to mention causing Mr Vine to collide with the bloke next to him.

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  9. Vo2Maxi
    March 2, 2023 at 5:11 pm
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    Funny how the idiot Vine will
    Funny how the idiot Vine will stop to confront errant motorists, often riding right up to their bumper in a provocative way and calling them out loudly. But when he almost collides with a red-light jumper on a bike, he actually apologises! Duh! Vine could do a lot of good in his privileged high profile position, but he just pees off drivers everywhere with his holier than thou attitude, and riding down the middle of the road unnecessarily. Yes, we all know we’ll see the same car at the next red light, but you don’t ride along telling people how to drive and blocking them. It just makes them angry and then I have to deal with that.

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    • Seagull2
      March 2, 2023 at 5:35 pm
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      Not sure you were paying

      Not sure you were paying attention, he didn’t apologise to the offending cyclist  . .  perhaps take a look at it again  

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    • Clem Fandango
      March 2, 2023 at 6:21 pm
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      Yet a growing number of

      Yet a growing number of drivers seem to think it’s OK to drive along telling me how to ride (“get off the effin’ road”, “use the effin’ cyle path”, “you’re not allowed in the middle of the road,” “f*** off you***” etc etc) and blocking / threatening / trying to intimidate me.   Weird.

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    • Secret_squirrel
      March 2, 2023 at 7:35 pm
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      Vo2Maxi wrote:

      blah blah blah

      — Vo2Maxi

      A one post wonder joins to criticise Vine.  Which one of the resident trolls do you think it is? ?

       

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  10. Oldfatgit
    March 2, 2023 at 5:15 pm
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    That bloody camera Vine has
    That bloody camera Vine has just makes me feel ill.

    Given up watching it.

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  11. cmedred
    March 2, 2023 at 5:23 pm
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    So did the red light-running

    So did the red light-running cyclist in the Vine video run a red light at road intersection or is that the traffic-controlled intersection where a cycleway crosses the road?

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  12. HoarseMann
    March 2, 2023 at 7:29 pm
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    Not a terrible pass from this

    Not a terrible pass from this chap today, not sure they should be driving though:

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    • JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
      March 2, 2023 at 7:49 pm
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      HoarseMann wrote:

      Not a terrible pass from this chap today, not sure they should be driving though:

      — HoarseMann

      I refuse to believe that that driver is anything other than the goodest boy*, and will not a hear a word against him**.

      *or girl
      **or her

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      • HoarseMann
        March 2, 2023 at 8:02 pm
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        They were giving the road

        They were giving the road ahead their full attention, not a mobile phone in sight. A lot of drivers could learn from their example.

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    • chrisonabike
      March 3, 2023 at 10:40 am
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      Why not? Nothing to see here
      Why not? Nothing to see here – it doesn’t say that when using the carriageway *drivers* should keep their dogs on a short lead.

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  13. alansmurphy
    March 3, 2023 at 2:14 pm
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    The red light jumping stats

    The red light jumping stats ref the JV video – pretty sure in that clip alone the ration is 3:1 cars v cyclist!

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  14. Fignon's ghost
    March 5, 2023 at 5:15 am
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    Bridport cycles. Seriously.
    Bridport cycles. Seriously. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. And of course better locks. Get a good locksmith in to advise you.
    There’s no doubt these scumbags had browsed your premises and knew the challenges. Don’t remain as low hanging fruit.

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    • mark1a
      March 5, 2023 at 8:38 am
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      Fignon’s ghost wrote:

      Bridport cycles. Seriously. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. Also add in several alert mobile keyholders. And of course better locks. Get a good locksmith in to advise you. There’s no doubt these scumbags had browsed your premises and knew the challenges. Don’t remain as low hanging fruit.

      — Fignon's ghost

      Will you also be advising that the owner should also have been wearing a helmet and hi-viz clothing?

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    • perce
      March 5, 2023 at 9:01 am
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      Some nice victim blaming

      Some nice victim blaming there. Well done.

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jaymack 5 minutes ago

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Rendel Harris 16 minutes ago

The 20 mph encouraging people to use their phones concept reminds me of possibly my favourite ever Private Eye cartoon, two muggers standing over their senseless victim going through his wallet and one saying to the other, "There's bound to be crime when idiots persist in carrying this sort of money around…" If drivers are admitting that they will break the law if they are given the opportunity to do so then clearly that is openly stating that giving them a licence to drive is about as sensible as giving a drug addict a pharmacist's licence.

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Pub bike 23 minutes ago

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But also So it's OK for people to be driving while on their phones around schools, but not anywhere else?

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