Jeremy Vine has criticised a London bus driver for making a right turn as the presenter approached, forcing him to brake to avoid a collision.
In the footage shared on Vine’s Twitter account — where he regularly uploads videos from his cycling travels around the English capital — the BBC and Channel 5 broadcaster can be seen riding along when the bus driver makes a right turn across the lane Vine is using, cutting across him and forcing him to slow to avoid a crash.
Vine asked his 790,000 followers, “Hey bus people what’s this about?”, and the clip has been viewed more than 4.3 million times since it was uploaded on Monday afternoon.
Hey bus people what’s this about? pic.twitter.com/pBI5HuZBmK
— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) February 27, 2023
In reply, one former bus driver suggested the manoeuvre would have been dangerous to stop, suggesting “once the bus is in a turn, it is very difficult to stop, without causing risk to passengers”.
“It seems from your video that the bus was already turning before you got close, and had to complete the manoeuvre,” the former driver added.
Vine replied: “He has to wait. That’s all there is to it.” He also dispelled any likely accusations that the driver would not have been able to see him.
Just getting ahead of all the “HE OBvioUSLy CoULDnT SEE YOu” replies, this was me leaving the house this morning pic.twitter.com/Tiw3tVK2vS
— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) February 27, 2023
Last week another London cyclist spoke out about the “bullyish” bus driving that prompted a Transport for London investigation after footage of the rider being squeezed towards the kerb by a passing driver was shared on social media.
The footage featured on our Near Miss of the Day series and prompted Transport for London’s head of bus operations Rosie Trew to tell road.cc that “driving that endangers cyclists or pedestrians is unacceptable and far from the required standard of our bus drivers”.
The cyclist involved, Lauren O’Brien said the dangerous driving happens “quite often” and described how often bus drivers put her in a situation where “I’m going to have to make a quick decision to brake, get out the way of the bus before I have a collision.”
“It just winds you up so much because it’s bullyish behaviour, you have no option but to brake or you’re goning to get hit by a bus, so they’re putting you in this horrible, impossible situation where you’ve got to just get out their way – which shouldn’t be the case at all,” she said.
“Sometimes you just want to, you know, go up to and be like, ‘Why are you doing this? Do you know how scary this is when you drive like that? You clearly don’t if you’re doing that, you clearly don’t understand why or you wouldn’t do it’.”
TfL told us that all London bus drivers are currently undertaking a Vision Zero training course, which aims to teach new skills in hazard perception and to provide them with a better understanding of the risks to cyclists, pedestrians, motorcyclists, and passengers, along with ways to prevent driver fatigue.
TfL says the course is “designed to create the safety culture and attitudes” that will help the body achieve Vision Zero for London.
82 thoughts on ““He has to wait, that’s all there is to it”: Jeremy Vine slams bus driver for near miss”
**Jeremy Vine trying to make
**Jeremy Vine trying to make something out of nothing shocker**
The honest reason: bus
The honest reason: bus drivers, like most motorists,. DGAF about cyclists.
Vine should be completely
Vine should be completely disowned and pilloried by everyone on this website for being a publicity seeking nobhead who actively tries to make the general public at large hate cyclists.
I always give a polite wave and smile to other cyclists, but if I saw him out and about he’d be getting the big two fingers, the bloke makes me fume!
Good job road.cc doesn’t
Good job road.cc doesn’t support polls. If we put muting him vs you I wonder who would win. ?
I disagree with maybe 1 in 10 of his videos. But then I’m not cycling in and triggered by daily London commuting.
As the most high profile celebrity cyclist at least by frequency in the UK I think he does more good than harm by a long chalk.
Just waiting ’till they start
Just waiting ’till they start citing “top lawyer and road safety expert Nick Freeman” then it’s bingo!
It is well known that
It is well known that accountants live in a cul de sac.
Possibly in leafy Essex.
Possibly in leafy Essex. Although not far enough from camera vigilantes seeking clicks for cash…
Although I’ve heard that some live below the
bridgeline on the internet.Maybe Jeremy could do a ride
Maybe Jeremy could do a ride along with a London bus driving instructor? He might become a bit more willing to compromise and make relatively trivial adjustments* to his own forward progress if he understood the inherent difficulties of driving a bus in a busy urban environment.
*You know, like us cyclists expect from other faster, heavier road users.
As my mother used to say, if
As my mother used to say, if that’s the worst thing that happens to you today count yourself lucky…
JV’s not even entered the junction (white line) when the bus driver is at least halfway through the turn. I wouldn’t have complained even at the time, let alone bothered posting it.
I was on Jeremy’s side (the
I was on Jeremy’s side (the bus driver did go for gap in the oncoming traffic that wasn’t quite big enough, so it’s a bit naughty, although not a sacking offence) until I saw the follow-up video of his lighting setup as he leaves his house. Now I’m inclined to side with the bus driver, for the first time in my life. A blindingly-bright head torch is not the same thing as a proper (and legally mandated) handlebar-mounted front light. You need a steady beam, preferably with a cut-off, to judge what is coming towards you, and how quickly. Adding a helmet-mounted light can be useful, especially in urban settings, but it should be lower-powered than the fixed main beam. And the multi-coloured blinkers on his clothing will be either outshone by the head torch, or just add to the confusion (especially the green ones, as green means go.) For all the bus driver knew, it was someone swinging a torch about while walking a dog. Or some workmen doing emergency repairs to a manhole cover. By the time he sounded his horn, the bus was already making its turn, so it was pointless (and thus rather discourteous to the bus passengers and other people in the area.)
Nonsense.
Nonsense.
Classic. Not so much SMIDSY
Classic. Not so much SMIDSY as SMI thought you were walking a dog in the middle of a road at 6am.
It does surprise me that Vine
It does surprise me that Vine has a helmet light but not a light fitted to the bicycle. You’re correct that it is illegal to cycle between sunset and sunrise without lights affixed to the vehicle (bicycle); in accordance with RVLR 1989.
But the bus driver still should have seen Vine.
After recently spending a few
After recently spending a few days in Paris, and witnessing the truly shocking chaos and carnage on their streets, I have a new found perspective on city cycling (and driving) in the UK. Honestly, some of the stuff I saw/experienced as a pedestrian and a taxi passenger was, shall we say, rather eye opening. A lot of the videos we see of poor driving/riding here in the UK, would it seems be perfectly normal and acceptable behaviour in Paris. For a city that has apparently ’embraced cycling’ since the pandemic, I came away being glad that I don’t have to ride around it on a daily basis. Certainly this video here from Mr Vine would get absolutely no sympathy towards him from Parisian viewers!
But how was it *before* they
But how was it *before* they “embraced cycling” though (which I believe has been going on for about a decade)? I thought the point of the change in Paris was that previously it could be a seriously scary / stressful experience – even if you were in a car, and good luck pedestrians?
Without losing the JV thread entirely – “Carnage” – so how many RTCs did you witness and what was the body count? I’ve not been, the videos I’ve seen look rather “rough and ready” – but isn’t the point “doing something positive”? As opposed to eg. Kensington and Chelsea where cyclists are welcome … elsewhere.
Thankfully no ‘actual’
Thankfully no ‘actual’ carnage, but plenty of potential carnage. I may have been guilty of a bit of hyperbole there.
I have no idea what it was like before, but I was under the (perhaps misguided) impression that Paris was now a ‘cycling city’. Maybe it is a lot better now, and that is clearly a good thing, but there’s still plenty of scope for improvement. It just all felt very lawless and chaotic from the perspective of someone that doesn’t usually spend much time in a huge metropolis like Paris or London.
My main point was that whilst we understandably get upset by some of the attitudes towards cyclists from UK drivers, I feel we actually have it quite good compared to some other places, Paris being one of them.
Thanks for the explanation
Thanks for the explanation and reportage. I suspect, same as over here, there is no shortage of hyperbole from the Parisian planners. Given how radical the idea of doing anything that challenges the status quo of mass motoring is, it’s perhaps understandable people get a bit wild in what they say.
TBH I think the only country where all cities are “cycling cities” is NL. Scandinavia has some good examples (maybe in reach of the UK although 2nd rate compared to NL). Not sure about Germany but some places may be getting towards the Scandinavian level. Central Seville. Then there’s a gap (a few exceptions like Cambridge) then probably places like Paris, the UK (3rd rate in the good places but not yet in the running mostly).
Dicklexic wrote:
I’ve told you a thousand times, don’t exaggerate
I don’t doubt your experience
I don’t doubt your experience but it doesn’t accord with my own at all: every time I cycle in Paris I am very pleasantly surprised by how much better Parisian drivers are around cyclists compared to London, how much better the infrastructure is and how much safer the streets in general feel. I wonder if that has anything to do with having a different perspective when on holiday? I think there are one or two posters on here who live in Paris, do they feel the same, i.e. that London is safer?
Rendel Harris wrote:
That’s a fair point. I was walking around Paris with my wife and two children (7 & 12) so that will almost certainly have skewed my perspective. Had I been on my own, and me being a confident and experienced cyclist, I probably would’ve happily rented one of the many ebikes or escooters available. It just seemed to me watching other riders that there were a lot moments that would’ve seen me submitting close pass footage had it occurred back home, yet the riders I saw barely reacted!
Yes, I think also one
Yes, I think also one develops a totally different attitude on holiday; when I’m cycling in Paris I am generally drifting from place to place, under no time pressures, never having to take shortcuts through busy roads, and loving everything I see, so I’m definitely in a state of mind where I would be less likely to notice bad driving and even if I do I probably shrug it off as “Oh, so typically French!”
Just like us, they have not
Just like us, they have not arrived yet,
But pointing to the bits they have done is a provocative self-flagellation exercise by people who want to express their dislike of the UK.
On London vs Paris, I think London are doing better strategically, with some way to go especially in Outer London. Here’s an assessment of how far they have got so far (TFL 2021). I think it’s one of those things that is snail’s pace until we look back after a longer time period.
In Paris when you fall off the edge of velo-Paris, you know about it.
Dicklexic wrote:
and this is why the UK has some of the safest roads in the world, despite nearly zero effort in policing bad drivers.
Jeremy when he sees a
Jeremy when he sees a potential incident.
It’s amazing how he
It’s amazing how he accelerated… to a stop.
That’s what generally happens
That’s what generally happens when you get somewhere quicker than you would have done if you’d have held your speed or *shock horror * decelerated slightly after anticipating what the bus driver is halfway through doing.
NotNigel wrote:
Which is the exact opposite of what you are trying to portray in the picture.
Also, you cannot anticipate something which is already happening.
You are very confused.
Erm, no confusion here apart
Erm, no confusion here apart from to your responses.
NotNigel wrote:
Is it from or to? You are very confused.
You are very dull.
You are very dull.
Oh dear! All that can save
Oh dear! All that can save us now is a kitten fight!
Yeah, there’s been too many
Yeah, there’s been too many occasions an incident could be avoided, but he can’t as he has poor roadsense, or he’strying to prove a point. I’m sure he started off meaning well, but now it looks as if he’s looking for issues.
I’m reminded of a saying “make a possible incident, a non-incident”. Nobody is perfect, so help rectify others mistakes…..
The bus driver commences a
The bus driver commences a dangerous turn across oncoming traffic without first ensuring it is safe to do so. It’s pretty simple.
Lots of people here getting their knickers in a twist about someone posting a clip of said bad driving… and yet somehow trying to blame the cyclist who has documented that bad driving. The mental gymnastics of lunatics knows no bounds.
But it’s not dangerous. It
But it’s not dangerous. It wasn’t good – but it wasn’t dangerous.
It wasn’t lawful, for sure.
It wasn’t lawful, for sure.
Neither Chris B200SX nor I
Neither Chris B200SX nor I said it was.
Lots of things aren’t lawful. They aren’t automatically dangerous.
Dnnnnnn wrote:
Veering a bus into a vulnerable road users direct path so they have to brake to avoid a collision… isn’t dangerous. Really??
In this case… really.
In this case… no. Really.
Dnnnnnn wrote:
I note that you cannot argue in good faith as you use “in this case” as a caveat to your truthful answer which is yes it is dangerous, but you simply cannot admit it and appear wrong.
It’s a binary answer to the question, there is no separate “in this case”… and you know it 🙂
Lol… we’ve all had enough
Lol… we’ve all had enough with context! Context can go to hell; its either black or white, right or wrong… nothing, and I mean nothing sits between the two…
Good luck with that.
ChrisB200SX wrote:
I think there is a big difference between has to slow from 15 to 12mph to avoid a collision and has to slam the anchors on and stop within 5m to avoid a collision, which your generalisation misses.
ChrisB200SX wrote:
I’d ratehr we saved the internet outrage for dangerous dricing rather than rude driving. Honestly If I had a dash cam in my car I could pust an incident like this every 20 miles or so. But what would be the point.
All it is is chaff that hides the truly dangerous driving videos
IMHO, Vine risks an element
IMHO, Vine risks an element of the boy who cried wolf by treating his cycling videos like his TV and Radio shows, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him confronting a driver trying to blame them for a puncuture.
I think Vine is wrong here.
I think Vine is wrong here. Firstly, the road was more or less clear when the bus started over. A large vehicle takes time to clear a junction, especially when it cannot accelerate harshly and has to keep speed low in case of further obstructions. Also, buses are given an element of priority.
So, as everything was obvious, all Vine had to do was ease off slightly as soon as they saw the potential conflict. Here he seems to be pedalling into the bus. It would be interesting if his 360 camera could show the timing of his actions in relation to the bus coming across the lane.
If buses had to clear junctions in London with certainty that they were never going to cause a minor delay to other road users, the bus service would grind to a halt. The bus driver was not aggressive nor, as far as I can tell, deliberately ignoring Vine.
Another for the Vine causing trouble for cyclists notch.
Excactly this…if this is
Excactly this..he’s not doing himself or other cyclists any favours with this….if this is the worst thing that’s happened to him since the last video that was posted on here I don’t think he’s doing too bad.
That’s the thing that
That’s the thing that surprises me about his content, I’m sure I could turn out regular weekly videos of “near misses” worse than that, so howcome that’s the worst he experiences on his daily rides ? Is it just everyone is still in bed when he’s on the road ?
“A large vehicle takes time
“A large vehicle takes time to clear a junction”
And therefore has to wait for a larger gap in traffic.
“buses are given an element of priority”
No, they’re not.
The crux of it is that bus drivers should wait for a point where they can turn without turning across other road users who have priority. The reality is that they sometimes don’t. And more often with cyclists.
You know, there have been
I agree with you on this.
But, you know, there have been people on This Very Site who have said that we should all be willing to give way (cede priority) to buses as they are providing a Very Good Public Service…
Indeed. I even remember the
Indeed. I even remember the claim that each bus takes “hundreds” of cars off the road. It seemed likely that the father of Britain’s newest cello prodigy had never actually seen the inside of a bus.
brooksby wrote:
To be fair, the Highway Code does say you should give priority to buses when you can do so safely.
Steve K wrote:
JV had right of way. Did he cede right of way? No. You could say he should have (but note the HWC does not even say he ‘should’), but the fact is, he didn’t.
I notice a lot of the twits
I notice a lot of the twits are excusing it because the van blocked the drivers view, they seem to think it is ok to start a manoeuver if you can’t see it is clear to do so!
Beat me too it. If the van
Beat me too it. If the van was blocking the bus driver’s view, the bus driver should not have proceeded.
I don’t think Vine has the
I don’t think Vine has the priority there, and whats the phrase Ashley Neal uses, priority is given not automatic, Vine hasn’t even gone through the ASL box and the bus is already committed to turning
Awavey wrote:
Do you think that someone already in a junction has priority over people who have not yet passed the ASL on their side of the junction?
Rule 180 is clear and the bus driver did not comply with it.
Well I would argue rule 180
Well I would argue rule 180 has a distance limitation on it by implication of determining what a safe gap is, & I don’t feel the bus driver contravened the spirit of that rule, technically its a ding because it would force another road user to adapt, but the bus had a sufficient gap when they committed to the maneuver and i dont feel what they did was particularly dangerous, especially not to an experienced road cyclist.
But if we’re citing HC rules why is Vine not following rule 146 or rule 147 ?
Awavey wrote:
I’m often critical of JV’s cycling. He clearly could slow down earlier and prevent a conflict. But that does not excuse the bus driver for turning when it was not safe. When the bus driver started the turn they could not even see that the way was clear because of the van, notwithstanding the oncoming cyclist.
If you think that turning across a junction despite not seeing that the way is clear, and continuing to do so despite an incoming cyclist is in ‘the spirit’ of rule 180; i.e. that it is waiting until the is a safe gap between you and any incoming vehicle, you’re not safe to be on the road.
Thanks, that’s an eminently
Thanks, that’s an eminently sensible comment
Should the bus driver have
Should the bus driver have waited… probably. Is that how city centre commuting works in practice… not at all.
The move was a bit rude and caused a mild inconvenience, nothing more.
Worth a shout and maybe an arm wraggle, but otherwise, move on.
I’m struggling to see it even
I’m struggling to see it even as a bit rude to be honest. That bloody camera of Vine’s again makes it hard to judge distances and I may be doing him a dis-service, but that seems a wide junction and it took Vine quite a long time to come into conflict. The offset junction design including road markings actually seems to encourage essentially driving on the wrong side of the road, and the conflict was visible for 5 or 6 seconds. There is another issue that the cycle lane effectively puts Vine more into conflict with the bus than if there were no cycle lane – a car would actually be less impeded by the bus.
I know I get slightly irritated when lorries head onto roundabouts when they can see I am coming and I have to halt while I admire their load, but the reality is that at times, it is virtually impossible for large vehicles to pass through junctions without hindering other vehicles. As long as this is done knowingly and without forcing someone into sudden evasive action, I think it is something road users live with. I also apply the London factor, where traffic, and cyclists, can often be unrelenting and sheer weight of traffic leads to an element of push and shove – regardless of whether the Highway Code approves, it is a factor in urban traffic. Having driven into Brum yesterday, I observed all sorts of novel interpretations of lane use which as a driver I am told to accept and not react to.
Agree. There are situations
Agree. There are situations to be upset about, but this is not one of them. There was plenty of distance and opportunity for Jeremy to back off a little and let the bus complete the turn.
The bigger issue is the vehicle following through behind the bus, they could have blindly followed the bus in making the turn, without being able to see the oncoming cyclist.
Also, Vine should stop wearing such a bright helmet light. That could have made him appear further away than he actually was.
I think it’s the hypocrisy.
I agree that this isnt the worst thing ive seen.
I think it’s the hypocrisy. Drivers expect cyclist to adapt to their potentially dangerous driving; but are not willing to do the bare minimum to ensure the safety of cyclists.
I think that’s unfair in this
I think that’s unfair in this case on that bus driver, he wasn’t causing anyone any danger by what he did, Vine, who must end up following his rides very angry & stressed all the time if stuff like that winds him up, is simply exploiting a situation 1000s of cyclists experience daily with no fuss, for his gain, again.
There’s the old proverb of the boy who cried wolf, I forget what the lesson was.
Awavey wrote:
“I channel my aggression, that’s what I do;
Every day I ride the Tour de F- You!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgCqz3l33kU
Quite, Vine is currently
Quite, Vine is currently embroiled in another marginal one where he takes the lane when it is at least arguable he could have let the no handed, inattentive, mobile phone-using white van man by. Oddly, few seem to want to argue that there is an obligation to take care around cyclists, and to allow them to clear junctions from the ASL.
It’s alot less marginal than
It’s alot less marginal than the bus, though it raises alot of interesting points about interaction of multiple road users & distraction. Really he needs to adopt the Frozen attitude sometimes, Let it Go.
I’d cut the bus driver some
I’d cut the bus driver some slack; its maybe not that polite a manoeuvre but it’s not a life threatening near miss. I rather have a bus operating smoothly and efficiently than 30 odd private cars.
It’s not a well designed
It’s not a well designed junction. The bus driver almost certainly can’t see Vine (no matter how brightly lit he was) when he starts to turn, due to the van that’s trying to turn right. The bus driver isn’t in the right, but it’s an easy mistake to make. By the time that he could see Vine, doing an emergency stop would probably have done more harm than good, as the former bus driver says.
When I was a learner I was
When I was a learner I was always taught that you should cross behind the car coming towards you, I presume because of the visibility. As traffic increased we’ve seen far more of these junctions where the drivers cross in front. I understand why but it wouldn’t be done based on any coherent risk based thinking.
I think Vine comes across as
I think Vine comes across as a self-entitled middle class twunt at times.
This was one of those times.
It’s all well and good being lit up like a Xmas tree, but you’ve got to be able to read the traffic too.
It doesn’t take much to ease on the brakes for a few seconds, but then again how do you keep your social media “followers” agog otherwise?
The bullish behavior is the
The bullish behavior is the bus-driver norm. To stay on schedule, they’re used to forcing their way into traffic and daring others to hit them. The bus driver would have done the same with a car coming in this case, I’m sure. So the big question is: Should bus drivers be expected to treat vulnerable road users differently, or should vulnerable road users be expected to cycle or walk defensively to protect themselves from buses?
We all seem to be castigating
We all seem to be castigating JV here as it didn’t appear too close but I’m thinking that his camera is doing him no favours as it appears to be doing an anti-Father Ted. We must get some perspective here!
If it’s wide angle then, as American mirrors have written on them, “objects may appear further away than they are”. I may be wrong with the exact words but I’m not Meatloaf….
If the bus appeared twice as far away as it really was, it would appear that there’s plenty of space. However, that space would be consumed at an apparent double speed so it looks like he hasn’t slowed down but actually sped up as it’s an illusion caused by the camera.
If you have a reversing camera on your car it looks like you are miles away from objects behind but when you get out and look or just look through the rear window, you are actually really close!
Try it on your camera on the phone, most will now go below zero on the zoom and his camera is effectively at something like 0.3 to 0.5. Not a lens expert so please correct me if I have it wrong but the point is that it isn’t showing the images as we see it with our own eyes. Most of us with a camera will have suffered what we feel is a close or dangerous pass but it doesn’t look anywhere near as bad on the camera footage.
all I would say to that is as
all I would say to that is as an experienced road & commuting cyclist until Im in the center of the junction, Im not expecting anyone to cede priority to me and I ride accordingly
drivers wont cede to you approaching on a junction like that at all, they think you are too slow, especially if youve not even crossed the ASL.
and to be frank I wouldnt actually expect them to either.
I don’t think I would have
I don’t think I would have been concerned about this as I try to give way to buses anyway. They are keeping a lot of cars of the road and the passengers should expect to progress at least as quickly as a car. Had it been a car I may think differently.
The issue for me is that if JV had to brake to avoid a collision the driving is at least inconsiderate and he has a right to complain. As I see it the more motorists get away with inconsiderate driving the more they push it and the possibility of it ending badly for the cyclist increases. Taking steps to deter it before it gets to this stage makes sense to me which is why I am usually disappointed with police responses on NMOTD. A warning letter should suffice. It would take little time and would help to make future tragedies less likely.
Did he even have to brake or
Did he even have to brake or just simply freewheel ? ok the bus driver doesn’t know if he’s riding a fixie, but it wasn’t an omg I must grab all the braking I’ve got to avoid this moment, it was just moderate your speed a notch, drop your cadence a bit,work with the flow of traffic everyone can negotiate this junction without drama if we want it be that way
Maybe its just me but I can’t imagine a ride where I don’t have to do something like slow abit or not ride as fast into a situation like that and don’t have a problem with it.
because most of my rides will often involve situations that are way beyond inconsiderate driving and are bordering dangerous driving and every so often are where I’m left thankful to still be alive.
Let’s deal with the really bad stuff first, then we can have a conversation about the inconsiderate
I did say IF he had to brake.
I did say IF he had to brake. It’s not obvious to me from the footage whether or not he did but having had a car pull across the road heading towards me at speed recently, I slammed on the anchors. The severity of the braking really didn’t come across in the helemt cam video. The rear bike mounted camera showed it much better.
If inconsiderate driving were dealt with quickly with a warning letter from the police to the registered owner I believe it would have an effect in the long term, with minimal expenditure of police time. It may take a while but I would be quite happy to spend my retirement sending in clips if the police would be more proactive. I wouldn’t blame anyone for not reporting though, it is a time consuming and often frustrating activity.
I can see your point of view but in my opinion letting the little things slip makes it much more difficult to deal with the really bad stuff.
One last thing, I don’t like seeing bullies get away with it, which is basically what inconsiderate driving is.
Most of us with a camera will
Most of us with a camera will have suffered what we feel is a close or dangerous pass but it doesn’t look anywhere near as bad on the camera footage
I have been pondering whether the veracity of this statement depends on the model of camera and I suspect it doesn’t: if you film on ‘wide angle’, passes look closer and your own speed looks greater. Initially, I did ponder remaining on wide-angle, but the ‘appearance’ is never going to make any difference to the police, who operate on the ‘cyclist not dead = no offence’ principle. I am an admirer of JV, although not of Radio 2, because he keeps hammering away at keeping the matter of cyclists in the public eye. He has the widest of wide-angle cameras, but it’s difficult to know what happens after the processing that extracts the view he wants. My suspicion is that the video displayed shows the crossing bus about as close as it could be showed, and that JV is perfectly aware of his brakes and was in no danger from the bus. The point he is making is that drivers in general, bus drivers in particular and the police have no intention of taking seriously any HC guff about ‘priority to cyclists’.
if you film on ‘wide angle’,
if you film on ‘wide angle’, passes look closer and your own speed looks greater
This UpRide video illustrates this, and has just been accepted. It was accidentally filmed on ‘wide’ (the non-magnified version of GoPro’s normal field of view), whereas the others shown on the UpRide map along this stretch of road are ‘magnified’ (= smallest field of view), shown on the APC van incident below
https://upride.cc/incident/fh16fhz_golf_closepass/
https://upride.cc/incident/md68fwc_apcovernight_whitelinecross/
I’m a cycling fanatic. But I
I’m a cycling fanatic. But I don’t get Jeremy Vine.
I watched his show this am. His Yorkshire viewers were complaining that they were witnessing MOTORISTS driving 100+ MPH through their village In a 30mph zone.
The title to Vine’s QnA segment…. Should all 30mph villages have speed cameras??
WTF???
After having to listen to the awful public feedback that had been allowed to filter through. I was incensed. No one. Including Lord Vine. Had brought up the suggestion of SPEED BUMPS.
WTAF!
SPEED BUMPS ARE THE ONLY INSTANT DETERRENT THAT CAN AND WILL SAVE THE LIVES OF YOUNG CHILDEREN.
Speed bumps will also lessen cyclist road deaths.
Jeremy Vine. Are you an apologist for the shit system????
Courtesy of Viz:
Courtesy of Viz:
I’m no Alex Belfield. But
I’m no Alex Belfield. But Lord Vine needs to get off his arse and start doing some good by promoting speed bumps. Stop the shitchatting.
SPEED BUMPS ARE THE ONLY WAY TO FLY.
COME ON VINE. DO SOME PROPER WORK.
Every day, another example of
Every day, another example of JV being an arse. He has all the gear and no idea. That bus driver was already turning when he’d have had view of Vine. Once again, Vine doesn’t look ahead and properly anticipate potential hazards, he motors on until he has to slam on the brakes. And then starts whining. It’s all about his ‘rights’. Fools like Vine give ME a bad name and make me a figure of hate for some bad drivers. It would have been more dangerous for the bus to slam on the anchors, and he’d have still ended up blocking Vine’s progress. Vine is unnecessarily confrontational, and in a way, a perfect representation of woke, whining about your ‘rights’ whilst being oblivious to the bigger picture. He’s behaving like an arrogant narcissist.
For the record, I’ve ridden a bike for 43 years, raced to a high level, completed 100,000s miles and lost three good mates to bad drivers (Hook, Negus, Carr, I think about you guys every time I put my leg over the top tube). For heaven’s sake Jeremy, get off your high horse and GROW UP.