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Boris Johnson’s cycling revolution “a gross deception”, says leading anti-obesity campaigner; “Don’t ride safely, ride like a bit of a tw*t”,says James May; Vigil for Deliveroo rider killed in hit-and-run; LTN conflicts continue + more on the live blog

Welcome to Thursday’s live blog, with Jack Sexty at the controls and Simon MacMichael checking in later tonight
  • by Jack Sexty
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  • Our 2020 Tour de France content is powered by Zwift
  • A school bus of bikes
  • Had any experience with the Fix Your Bike voucher scheme? We want hear from you
  • Tour de France stage 6: an early breakaway has formed
  • Cycling UK launch 'AA for cyclists', offering bike maintenance tips, directions and more
  • Deliveroo workers hold vigil for rider who was killed in hit-and-run
  • Worcester cyclist films head-on traffic driving towards him in cycle lane
  • "Don't ride safely, ride like a bit of a tw*t", says James May in brake maintenance video
  • TDF: Alexey Lutsenko is away
  • Lutsenko wins stage 6
  • Alaphilippe trolls the GC contenders by grabbing some extra seconds
  • "It didn't happen overnight": Is London going through what Amsterdam went through decades ago?
  • "Bring your bike": Extinction Rebellion protesters block Mayfair, Trafalgar Square and Lambeth Bridge
  • Boris Johnson's cycling revolution is a "gross deception", says leading anti-obesity campaigner
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3 September 2020, 10:06

A school bus of bikes

“It’s brilliant! Once you start you can’t stop. You’re hooked.”

Public school students in Ireland have replaced school buses and personal vehicles with a “school bus” of bikes. 🚲 📚

🎥 @rtenews pic.twitter.com/4hwrLEXavY

— Jonathan Berk (@berkie1) September 1, 2020

3 September 2020, 10:06

Had any experience with the Fix Your Bike voucher scheme? We want hear from you

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The voucher scheme hasn’t been without its teething problems according to numerous reports, so we’d like to hear from people who have experienced the scheme for themselves… so if you’ve had a bike repaired using a voucher, you want a voucher but didn’t get one or you’re a repairer signed up to it, do hit us up on info@road.cc to tell us more. 

3 September 2020, 10:06

Tour de France stage 6: an early breakaway has formed

The early breakaway:

L’échappée du jour :

🇫🇷 @remicav
🇧🇪 @GregVanAvermaet
🇪🇸 @jesushl90
🇮🇪 @nicholasroche
🇺🇸 @NPowless
🇮🇹 @Daniel87Oss
🇳🇴 @EBhagen
🇰🇿 @AlexeyLutsenko3 #TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/KT39IbrwSW

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 3, 2020

Some big names are in there including Greg Van Avermaet, Nicholas Roche and Edvald Boasson Hagen. 

3 September 2020, 10:06

Cycling UK launch 'AA for cyclists', offering bike maintenance tips, directions and more

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cycling uk pumped up (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

There’s no tow truck and no fee, but Cycling UK’s new service to improve the confidence of new cyclists will get more people back on the road, according to the cycling charity. The pilot Pumped Up service launched in Manchester and Birmingham today, with volunteers in the ‘Pumped Up Crews’ helping new cyclists feel more supported on the roads. 

The crew members can help with bike knowledge, maintenance and directions, and will be wearing bright t-shirts with the Pumped Up logo to make them easily identifiable. Cycling UK added: “The volunteer crews are in response to the huge increase in new cyclists since lockdown and aim to help the extra 1.3 million people who bought a bike since March feel more confident and happy on the roads.”

3 September 2020, 10:06

Deliveroo workers hold vigil for rider who was killed in hit-and-run

Crowds of Deliveroo workers gather at The Spire in Dublin in a vigil to Deliveroo delivery cyclist Thiago Cortes who died from injuries sustained in a hit-and-run incident in Dublin on Monday. pic.twitter.com/Pqxq0QfQX3

— Conor McCrave (@Conor_McCrave) September 2, 2020

Very large turnout at Dublin #justiceforthiago vigil/rally in honour of Thiago Cortes, who died after a hit-and-run in Dublin on Monday night.

The procession took almost 15 minutes to pass; Brazilian community and Deliveroo workers joined by Just Eat and Uber Eats colleagues. pic.twitter.com/4wDU1H5Aal

— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) September 2, 2020

Conor McCrave, a reporter for The Journal, added: “a colleague and friend of Thiago tells me he was a “friendly guy who would do anything for his community” – now his community want justice for their friend.”

Thiago Cortes was hit by a driver on Monday, and later died of his injuries in hospital. Newstalk report that the driver failed to stop at the scene, and the car was recovered by Gardaí a short distance away. 

The 28-year-old Brazilian had only started working for Deliveroo ten days before he was killed, and his fiancé Teresa Dantas has appealed for information in finding the driver responsible. 

She told Newstalk: “If you did it, please come forward, be brave to do this.

“You were driving a car, you hit someone and you left him there to die. Just please face what you did, come forward – and if you know something, if you have any information, please call the Guards.”

3 September 2020, 10:06

Worcester cyclist films head-on traffic driving towards him in cycle lane

@LA_Griffiths @myworcester @BikeWorcester Please could you tell me where I need to take my complaint to regarding taxi ranking at Foregate St Station? You’ll see from the video, taken by me on my bike, cars are forced to cross into the bus/cycle lane on the other side of the road pic.twitter.com/cDOgGSmk5J

— Andy Foster (@Wusster) August 29, 2020

The footage shows cars coming in the opposite direction, and dangerously close, to Andy Foster, which he says is being caused by illegal taxi ranking on the opposite side. According to Worcester News, taxi drivers who park outside of designated ranks causing them to overspill could be fined up to £500 in the city centre; but a lack of enforcement is allowing the situation to continue. 

Cycling advocacy group Bike Worcester described the area as “an accident waiting to happen”, adding: “The taxi rank system needs a review. It’s clearly not working.”

Mr Foster said yesterday that after his complaint, Worcester Regulatory Services have promised “an increase in the number of enforcement visits to this area, at various times of the day.”

3 September 2020, 10:06

"Don't ride safely, ride like a bit of a tw*t", says James May in brake maintenance video

The former Top Gear and current The Grand Tour presenter is considerably more bike-friendly than a certain colleague of his, and demonstrates further his love for the bicycle in this “boring bike maintenance” video for Drivetribe. It’s not actually that boring if you’re a fan of tinkering, as May explains to us rim brake aficionados how he believes setting your brake pads up so the front hits the rim first is preferable: “The leading edge of the block meets the rim first”, he says. 

“…and then as the rubber compresses and the brake flexes very slightly, the rest of the pad comes into contact. That gives you very nicely progressive, modulated braking and much better feel. 

“Bicycles of course are all about feel. Nothing communicates with its user quite as feverishly as a bicycle does.” 

He then shows us how to set your brakes up as he suggested, with the help of a British Airways Executive Gold membership card. May’s grand finale is this gem of a line: “Don’t ride safely, ride like a bit of a twat – it’s more fun.” 

3 September 2020, 10:06

TDF: Alexey Lutsenko is away

With 10km to go @AlexeyLutsenko3 leads solo with an advantage of 28 seconds!💪 GO! GO! GO! #AstanaProTeam #TDF2020
📷@GettySport pic.twitter.com/Ubg293iU8J

— Astana Pro Team (@AstanaTeam) September 3, 2020

🏁 5km to go for 🇰🇿 @AlexeyLutsenko3!

🏁 Plus que 5km pour 🇰🇿 @AlexeyLutsenko3 !#TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/IiDJqj56P9

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 3, 2020

The 27-year-old Astana rider looks like he’s away, more than three minutes up on the peloton and now over 30 seconds clear of Jesús Herrada in second with less than 5km to go – will Lutsenko avoid disaster to take a solo victory? 

3 September 2020, 10:06

Lutsenko wins stage 6

🏆 🇰🇿 @AlexeyLutsenko3 claims the win! 🏆

🏆 🇰🇿 @AlexeyLutsenko3 s’impose en solitaire ! 🏆#TDF2020 #TDFUnited pic.twitter.com/ZAyEyJkkqY

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 3, 2020

The Kazakh dominated the stage in his biggest professional win to date – full story here. 

3 September 2020, 10:06

Alaphilippe trolls the GC contenders by grabbing some extra seconds

Pas mal Julian Alaphilippe 👏 pic.twitter.com/LjFttMv9Va

— Papa Julian Alaphilippe 🇸🇳 (@PAlaphilippe) September 3, 2020

After getting a controversial 20 second penalty yesterday and losing the yellow jersey to Adam Yates, Alaphilippe got a little bit of revenge by sprinting away from the GC group with 150 metres to go. His effort gained him back a second on Adam Yates, Egan Bernal, Richard Carapaz and Bauke Mollema amongst others… definitely not eyeing up yellow then Julian? 

3 September 2020, 10:06

"It didn't happen overnight": Is London going through what Amsterdam went through decades ago?

From car-centric to cycle-centric:

It didn’t happen overnight, it didn’t come easy but Amsterdam in recent decades did a great effort and became more beautiful, more lively and safer.

Currently the Haarlemmerdijk is open for cyclists only.#bikeAMS #cycling #livablecities pic.twitter.com/S6tNm3Khu0

— Thomas Schlijper (@schlijper) September 2, 2020

With animosity continuing to build over Low Traffic Neighbourhood schemes in the capital, it’s interesting to look back at images from Amsterdam before their cycling revolution began. Like London now, people were not happy about it then either, but eventually things changed for the better. 

Driving in London is becoming stressful. Half the backroads have been blocked off, half the main roads have been reduced to one lane to accommodate cyclists and then half the other roads are full of temp lights that change back to red after 3 seconds. It’s beyond annoying

— 🇯🇲ShengYeng Sabz🇯🇲 #BLM✊🏾 (@Sabrina_tweets) September 1, 2020

It’s stressful. They don’t want us to drive yet they’re saying we should also avoid public transport unless it’s essential..

— Kamba (@DJ_Kamba) September 3, 2020

Yes. It’s mad. The road out my house is being cut in half and blocked off so you have to go a long way round. This doesn’t mean i don’t have to use the damn car, it means I’m gonna use it more for the xtra distance! 😡
So many roads as well. The cyclist lanes are a joke as well

— Mouneer El (@MounireljJ) September 2, 2020

Just on my way home and decided to take a short cut I know through Hither Green,
All the back roads are now blocked by planters putting traffic on the main roads at a standstill.
Lewisham Council are just as bat shit crazy as Islington,Camden,Wandsworth etc#gettheroadsopenagain

— Des Powell (@dpowell248) September 3, 2020

Comments such as those above show that Londoners aren’t going to change their driving habits overnight, with pressure groups such as OneWandsworth and OneOval springing up to protest against what they perceive as ‘road closures’, suggesting that LTNs are causing problems such as increased pollution and hindering the progress of emergency vehicles. It might be the case that congestion appears to have increased in some roads where LTNs have been implemented, but it’s perhaps inevitable when some are not prepared to reduce their car dependency.

Let’s surf TfL’s traffic cameras around the Oval #LowTrafficNeighbourhood where, according to some locals, the surrounding roads are gridlocked since the #LTN was installed.
Oh. pic.twitter.com/kYuFXURD6J

— always last (@lastnotlost) September 3, 2020

Plus, many of the schemes appear to be working just fine. Will Londoners be dragged kicking and screaming out of their cars, or are the LTN experiments destined to fail? Let us know your thoughts in the comments as always. 

3 September 2020, 10:06

"Bring your bike": Extinction Rebellion protesters block Mayfair, Trafalgar Square and Lambeth Bridge

Bring your bike, now occupying Lambeth Bridge #CriticalMass @CMassLondon @XRLambeth #ActNow This is a Climate and Ecological Emergency – see you in the streets #WeWantToLive pic.twitter.com/D8LzAv9XUV

— Extinction Rebellion UK 🌍 (@XRebellionUK) September 3, 2020

Netpol, a police monitoring network, are also reporting on their Twitter account that police have kettled a number of cyclists on Lambeth Bridge, making a number of arrests. 

If true, it would echo scenes during the London 2012 Olympics when over 100 cyclists were arrested on the outskirts of the Olympic Park following a scuffle between police and Critical Mass riders. Five were eventually found guilty of public order offences in 2013, with a further three discharged and one found not guilty. 

3 September 2020, 10:06

Boris Johnson's cycling revolution is a "gross deception", says leading anti-obesity campaigner

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Boris Johnson opens CS5 (Image Credit: Transport for London)

Dr Aseem Malhotra told iNews that the government is targeting the wrong things by telling the public simply to exercise to lose weight and continuing to “appease” the food industry. He says the focus should be on food if the UK’s growing waistlines are to be curtailed. 

“I would tell Boris: you can’t outcycle a bad diet and we’ve got another 18 months at least before a potential coronavirus vaccine arrives, which we don’t yet know how effective it will be”, says Dr Malhotra. 

“Our best defence to protect people’s health is improving metabolic health by changing diet. But there’s no money to be made from that, so there’s no focus on it.”

He also claims that you’d have to cycle “an unlimited amount” to lose weight, and shedding the pounds is all about diet: “One of the things people don’t realise is that exercise increases appetite. Even people who run marathons never lose any weight.

“Think of exercise as good for your physical and mental health, your bone structure, muscle mass, for your metabolic heath in general – but not for weight loss. The best way to lose fat is by changing diet.

“Boris needs to stop appeasing the food industry and stop these gimmicks where he’s focusing on exercising. Instead, he should be putting all his efforts saying this is a diet problem. 

“Yes, let’s get people more active, which is important for general health, but the really big elephant in the room is the fact that more than half of our diet is ultra-processed food. The Government should be taxing ultra-processed food and use that money to subsidise healthy food so everyone benefits from it.”

Do you agree with Dr Malhotra’s comments, or have you managed to successfully outcycle a bad diet? Your thoughts below as per usual! 

3 September 2020, 10:06

New integrated, disc-only aero road bling from Basso

Basso launches redesigned Diamante SV with a cleaner front end, disc-only frameset and bigger gaps for a claimed aero improvement

Basso launches redesigned Diamante SV with a cleaner front end, disc-only frameset and bigger gaps for a claimed aero improvement

The Diamante SV has been redesigned with compliance in mind. Basso’s race bike now comes with a slight more relaxed geometry too.

3 September 2020, 10:06

Government launches consultation on pavement parking ban

Government launches consultation on pavement parking ban

Move welcomed by charities representing groups particularly affected by pavements being blocked by thoughtless drivers

3 September 2020, 10:06

The Times launches online tool to help cyclists find safest commutes

The Times launches online tool to help cyclists find safest commutes

Newspaper has compiled three decades of collision data and analysed it against Census commuting data

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  1. Compact Corned Beef
    September 3, 2020 at 10:22 am
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    Love love love the idea of

    Love love love the idea of cycling buses – if there’s anything that make the idea of more cycling, better infrastructure and a step change in driving mentality this should be it. 

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    • hawkinspeter
      September 3, 2020 at 10:33 am
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      Compact Corned Beef wrote:

      Love love love the idea of cycling buses – if there’s anything that make the idea of more cycling, better infrastructure and a step change in driving mentality this should be it. 

      — Compact Corned Beef

      We definitely need more of this.

      (However,  BooBoo would complain about all the congestion they’d cause with 5+ cyclists).

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      • Hirsute
        September 3, 2020 at 11:55 am
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        It is only the adult cyclists

        It is only the adult cyclists who cause congestion because the children’s bikes are smaller.

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        • hawkinspeter
          September 3, 2020 at 12:11 pm
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          hirsute wrote:

          It is only the adult cyclists who cause congestion because the children’s bikes are smaller.

          — hirsute

          They only make a *little* bump if you drive straight over them

          (Please don’t drive over them)

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        September 3, 2020 at 12:08 pm
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        Riding two abreast and not

        Riding two abreast and not pulling over to let the cars by….. tut tut.

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    • Sriracha
      September 3, 2020 at 10:50 am
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      Wish a Twitterer would put
      Wish a Twitterer would put the “Styo” twit back in his box, with his ‘research’ about travelling in the wake of exhaled covid plumes.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        September 3, 2020 at 12:02 pm
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        Did they reply to the bus

        Did they reply to the bus thread as I didn’t see it. However I did notice the one doubting thomas on it is a London Cabbie. What are the odds?

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      September 3, 2020 at 12:06 pm
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      Anyone know why the cycle

      Anyone know why the cycle lane on the bridge appears to be opposite priority then normal? Right hand side lane forward travel rather then left?

      Shouldn’t make a difference really but just strange to see on Left hand side roads. 

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      • OnYerBike
        September 3, 2020 at 1:38 pm
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        This is entirely speculative,

        This is entirely speculative, but could it something to do with entry and exit to the bike lane? The forward lane can fork off/merge seamlessly with the main carriageway, whilst the oncoming cycle lane will necessarily have to have more convoluted access points anyway and putting it on the “wrong” side doesn’t make this any worse (and retains the simplicity for the forward lane). 

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  2. eburtthebike
    September 3, 2020 at 12:53 pm
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    Andy Foster from Worcester

    Andy Foster from Worcester should take his complaint to the police; that is dangerous parking, which is a police matter.

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    • OnYerBike
      September 3, 2020 at 3:46 pm
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      eburtthebike wrote:

      Andy Foster from Worcester should take his complaint to the police; that is dangerous parking, which is a police matter.

      — eburtthebike

      I doubt you’d get the police interested. It is not dangerous parking in the sense that the parked cars are not posing an imminent threat; rather the danger is caused by other drivers avoiding the obstruction and thereby endangering other road users.

      Obstructing the highway is also a police matter and might be more pertinent here, although again I think you would struggle. After all, its perfectly possible for the drivers to avoid the obstruction by driving over the magic line of paint, and if there’s something squishy coming the other way that’s hardly a problem now, is it?

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      • eburtthebike
        September 3, 2020 at 4:41 pm
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        OnYerBike wrote:

        Andy Foster from Worcester should take his complaint to the police; that is dangerous parking, which is a police matter.

        — OnYerBike

        I doubt you’d get the police interested. It is not dangerous parking in the sense that the parked cars are not posing an imminent threat; rather the danger is caused by other drivers avoiding the obstruction and thereby endangering other road users.

        — eburtthebike

        I’m sure you are right, but that won’t be much consolation to the relatives of the dead cyclist.  I would argue very strongly that the drivers’ parking is creating the danger and the police should be taking action.

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  3. Crazyhorse
    September 3, 2020 at 1:04 pm
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    Re: Worcester cyclist. “The

    Re: Worcester cyclist. “The footage shows cars coming in the opposite direction, and dangerously close, to Andy Foster, which he says is being caused by illegal taxi ranking“
    Er, no, it is caused by drivers overtaking in the face of oncoming traffic. They can clearly see the cyclist approaching who has priority. They have the option to apply their brakes and actually stop to allow the cyclist to pass – but chose not to…

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    • Hirsute
      September 3, 2020 at 1:09 pm
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      But they were ‘forced’ to

      But they were ‘forced’ to overtake. Waiting was not an option.

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    • mdavidford
      September 3, 2020 at 2:05 pm
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      Also seems like that bus

      Also seems like that bus could’ve made a better job of pulling in, and not left it’s backside hanging out, which would have meant that the cars would have been able to pass it without swinging in to the bus/cycle lane.

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    • Butty
      September 3, 2020 at 2:21 pm
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      A 30cm high concrete curb

      A 30cm high concrete curb should pursuade drivers not to cross into the bike lane.

       

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    • TheColster
      September 3, 2020 at 3:10 pm
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      I came here to say exactly

      I came here to say exactly this.

      Andy says “You’ll see from the video, taken by me on my bike, cars are forced to cross into the bus/cycle lane on the other side of the road”. This is only true if cars are not forced to stop by their drivers when it would be dangerous to continue.

      Not a dig at Andy at all, and I agree it’s worth following up with the taxi firm. But those drivers were breaking the law by driving across the solid white line into a mandatory cycle lane, worsened by the fact that Andy was there and they still did it. They should be reported and the police should do something about those drivers.

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  4. poppa
    September 3, 2020 at 4:39 pm
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    The Olympic swimmer Michael
    The Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps famously ate what, for most people, would be a terrible diet, and highly calorific too (12000/day?), yet was not obese. So yes, clearly you can out exercise a bad diet.

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    • Cargobike
      September 3, 2020 at 6:45 pm
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      Not all of us have the time

      Not all of us have the time to train that Michael Phelps will have had while training for his Olympic medals, life sort of gets in the way, going to work, looking after the kids etc.

      I’ve cycled all my life yet still managed to balloon to nearly 330lbs only a year ago, while now I am under 240lbs.

      Have I managed to dramatically increase the distance and intensity of my cycling, or have I embraced a far healthier eating regime?

      I don’t think the Dr was specifically looking to undermine the benefits of cycling or any other physical activity, but if you don’t focus on the calories in, then the exertion required to burn excess calories increases dramatically.

      So no, the vast majority of us can’t outrun a bad diet, especially as we get older, but a healthy diet combined with a liberal sprinkling of exercise can work wonders.

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    • NZ Vegan Rider
      September 3, 2020 at 8:44 pm
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      He was in good shape while

      He was in good shape while doing all that training and eating that high calorie diet.

      What we don’t know is what that type of food was doing to his long term health.

      Some foods are bad and should not be eaten.

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  5. eburtthebike
    September 3, 2020 at 4:50 pm
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    From Wikipedia:

    From Wikipedia:

    “Aseem Malhotra is a “celebrity” doctor based in the United Kingdom, known for his controversial views on diet. He is best known as a promoter of a fad diet called the Pioppi diet and as one of the founders of Action on Sugar.  Maholtra’s views on diet and health have been criticised by the British Heart Foundation as “misleading and wrong”, and his public questioning of the need ever to use statins has been condemned as a danger to public health.[4] His diet, the “Pioppi diet” was named by the British Dietetic Association as one of the “top 5 worst celeb diets to avoid in 2018″.[1]”

    Like so many people obsessed with diet, he can’t see any other cause or cure for obesity than diet, despite all the evidence to the contrary.  Not so much a “leading anti-obesity campaigner” as someone obsessed by diet to the exclusion of all else.

    The real problem is the msm, which almost universally blames all weight problems and obesity on diet, and refuses to mention active travel as the most beneficial way to tackle them.  For instance “Inside Health” on R4 has an archive going back many years, and I recently trawled through them all to find mentions of cycling; I think it was three; and those three weren’t exactly gushing about the benefits of cycling, more a brief aside.

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    • Secret_squirrel
      September 3, 2020 at 7:02 pm
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      Thank you for comfirming my

      Thank you for comfirming my suspicions that he was a publicity seeking self serving shill.

      I shan’t waste any more of my precious typing time on him.

      Losing weight is simply about using more energy  that you take in and exercise plus watching your calories is the best way of achieving that.  What you eat is essentially irrelevant for weight management.  Most diets only work because they help you limit your calorie loading, and they have to be relatively similar to your long term food choices if you aren’t to backslide unless you are ferociously self disciplined.
      Long term health management may be a different issue with some foods if you are eating deep fried mars bars every day…

      Look at TCR and endurance riders.  They eat trash and none of them are lardies.

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  6. FlyingPenguin
    September 3, 2020 at 4:56 pm
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    Dr Malhotra’s comments seem
    Dr Malhotra’s comments seem mostly fair.

    I’ve lost about 35 kilos through cycling (BMI of 33 down to 23) and am living proof you can outrun a bad diet, but that’s been achieved by going from zero to about 10 hours of structured and outdoor training a week. I won’t make any grand claim about speed, but I’m certainly substantially stronger than when I started.

    Your average utility cyclist is nowhere near that level of exertion and structure. Yes the more committed may see moderate gains, but to properly lose significant weight through cycling requires both consistency and intensity, neither of which are on most people’s mind when they are just riding down to the shops for some groceries.

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    • Sriracha
      September 3, 2020 at 5:27 pm
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      Dr Malhotra’s comments seem
      Dr Malhotra’s comments seem mostly self-serving – he is in the business of pushing diets.

      People can choose to eat what they will, but if they want/need to cycle anywhere they have little choice about the infrastructure.

      So I’m with Boris on this one – to each as they are able; let the government look to the infrastructure whilst people look out for their own diets. Nanny can stay out of it.

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      • FlyingPenguin
        September 3, 2020 at 5:37 pm
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        There are a heap of other
        There are a heap of other reasons other than weight loss to have more cycling and cycling infrastructure, but when positioned as a public health intervention (e.g. Prescribing cycling on the NHS), it’s a pretty poor one.

        One of the biggest risk factors for covid is obesity, if we want to do anything about that at a public health/nanny state level (delete as applicable to meet your political leaning), cycling is actually of limited impact for most people unless combined with major dietary changes.

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        • Rich_cb
          September 3, 2020 at 6:08 pm
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          There are a lot of studies
          There are a lot of studies showing that active commuting leads to long term weight loss.

          There was also a recent study showing that cycle commuters almost halved their risk of cancer, stroke and heart disease compared to non active commuters.

          If we could get more people cycle commuting (or cycling an equivalent ammount) the public health benefits would be enormous.

          Cycling mortality study here:
          https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.j1456

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          • FlyingPenguin
            September 3, 2020 at 6:26 pm
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            I’m familiar with that study,
            I’m familiar with that study, but the issue is the selection bias that comes with measuring cycle commuting, never mind the data set used (which is actually acknowledged in the study).

            In a covid context you’re not really worried about those with maybe a few pounds to lose, it’s those much further up the scale. Yes cycle commuting is awesome, should be encouraged, but those most likely to benefit significantly from the weight loss are those least likely to embrace it sufficiently to make a dent. For that cohort, diet and (at the top end) surgical interventions are what is required.

          • NZ Vegan Rider
            September 3, 2020 at 8:38 pm
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            I totally agree.

            I totally agree.

            Dietary changes make more difference to one’s health than exercise.

            Both are ideal.

          • TheBillder
            September 3, 2020 at 9:53 pm
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            You totally agree with
            You totally agree with FlyingPenguin and so do I, but I don’t agree with you… To be healthy one should be a sensible weight but also have a reasonable level of cardiovascular fitness. I lost 25 kg through dietary changes and then got fit by cycling. Doing it the other way round or simultaneously would have been really difficult as the fat to muscle changes would have reduced the rate of weight loss and hence my motivation.

            I must say as well, riding up the same hill before and after losing 25 kg is quite an eye-opener.

          • Sriracha
            September 4, 2020 at 6:41 am
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            NZ Vegan Rider wrote:

            I totally agree.

            Dietary changes make more difference to one’s health than exercise.

            Both are ideal.

            — NZ Vegan Rider

            But I don’t need Boris to tell me what to eat; I can fix my own diet. However I can’t fix the cycling infrastructure, for that I do need Boris. It’s not that I disagree necessarily with Malhotra on diet, although he seems to be more interested in the opportunity to make money out of it.

          • Rich_cb
            September 3, 2020 at 9:28 pm
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            The extreme cohort aren’t
            The extreme cohort aren’t really going to benefit from anything other than surgery and we just don’t have the capacity to meet even a fraction of the demand.

            Active travel isn’t a silver bullet for the obesity crisis, nothing is, but it does bring demonstrable benefits in terms of weight loss and disease prevention.

            Changing the diet of the country en masse will be incredibly difficult, the potential benefits are, I agree, huge but it’s questionable how achievable those benefits will be.

        • eburtthebike
          September 3, 2020 at 7:31 pm
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          FlyingPenguin wrote:

          There are a heap of other reasons other than weight loss to have more cycling and cycling infrastructure, but when positioned as a public health intervention (e.g. Prescribing cycling on the NHS), it’s a pretty poor one. One of the biggest risk factors for covid is obesity, if we want to do anything about that at a public health/nanny state level (delete as applicable to meet your political leaning), cycling is actually of limited impact for most people unless combined with major dietary changes.

          — FlyingPenguin

          You are Dr Malhotra and ICMFP.

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  7. kil0ran
    September 3, 2020 at 5:35 pm
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    That pavement parking

    That pavement parking consultation, like most transport-related consultations, heavily biased towards maintaining the status quo. The fact is that pavement parking is already an offence – “You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency” and they’re consulting to, at most, enforce that law. They seem to think new law is required…

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    • eburtthebike
      September 3, 2020 at 7:30 pm
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      kil0ran wrote:

      That pavement parking consultation, like most transport-related consultations, heavily biased towards maintaining the status quo. The fact is that pavement parking is already an offence – “You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency” and they’re consulting to, at most, enforce that law. They seem to think new law is required…

      — kil0ran

      Yes, but the vital word in there is “drive”.  It doesn’t say you mustn’t park.  Now you and I both know that a car parked on the pavement didn’t just materialise there, it was driven there, but unless a police officer witnesses it being driven, there is no offence.

      A few years ago I came across a PCSO doing her rounds in my neighbourhood, and pointed out that a car was blocking the pavement, and she agreed to have a word with the driver to ask them to move it.  If she had done so and then witnessed the car being driven over the pavement, she could have arrested the driver, and I’m not sure why the police don’t adopt this tactic.

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      • David9694
        September 7, 2020 at 7:35 am
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        Because Mr Loophole – the

        Because Mr Loophole – the friend of the little man – will appear and say “ah-ha!”.

        Pavement parking is a symptom of the pressure the roads are under from the excess car use we’re now seeing. 

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  8. Rome73
    September 3, 2020 at 7:40 pm
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    ‘Driving in London is

    ‘Driving in London is becoming stressful. Half the backroads have been blocked off, half the main roads have been reduced to one lane to accommodate cyclists and then half the other roads are full of temp lights that change back to red after 3 seconds. It’s beyond annoying’

    what a dumb tweet. It’s not even true. 50% of roads have been reduced to 1 lane to accommodate cyclists? Where’s that? Dumb comment. 

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    • OldRidgeback
      September 4, 2020 at 8:55 am
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      Lukas wrote:

      ‘Driving in London is becoming stressful. Half the backroads have been blocked off, half the main roads have been reduced to one lane to accommodate cyclists and then half the other roads are full of temp lights that change back to red after 3 seconds. It’s beyond annoying’

      what a dumb tweet. It’s not even true. 50% of roads have been reduced to 1 lane to accommodate cyclists? Where’s that? Dumb comment. 

      — Lukas

      Driving in London has been stressful for all of the 30 years I’ve lived here. I’ve owned a car for about 20 of these, but only use it when I have to. I’d much rather be on two wheels.

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  9. MattieKempy
    September 4, 2020 at 5:54 am
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    Everything about Boris

    Everything about Boris Johnson is a gross deception. Why would a cycling policy with his name attached be any different?

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    • eburtthebike
      September 4, 2020 at 7:56 am
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      MattieKempy wrote:

      Everything about Boris Johnson is a gross deception. Why would a cycling policy with his name attached be any different?

      — MattieKempy

      It’s just that the eternal optimists amongst us are hoping against hope that this time he’s telling the truth.  OK, the evidence of the past thirty years tends to confound that hope, but there’s always a first time.

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  10. wycombewheeler
    September 4, 2020 at 10:19 am
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    I eat the same crap diet all
    I eat the same crap diet all the time, if anything I eat more when I’m cycling more. But cycling more tends to lead to lower weight. But this is the difference between 50 and 20p miles a week. 4 miles a day of commutting isn’t going to make a massive difference to anyone.

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    • LetsBePartOfTheSolution
      September 7, 2020 at 5:50 am
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      I agree …. for me there is

      I agree …. for me there is a basal mileage of cycling which keeps my weight level, and there’s an extended mileage that will affirmatively achieve mild weight-loss. I can make plans with complete certainty. For example I know that an upcoming 2-week holiday will lose me 2 kilos. This is due to having the time and enthusiasm to extend my daily mileage for that period. And I know in winter roughly what weight I will gain, due to lower mileage. My diet remains absolutely constant throughout – and is measured to be so. The only variable is the mileage.

       

       

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      • CyclingInGawler
        September 7, 2020 at 10:16 am
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        Back in the days when I

        Back in the days when I normally commuted via a combination of the train and an 9-mile each-way cycle, my weight would remain steady until accident or injury put me off the bike, when I’d put on a stone (6.5 kg, if you prefer) and that would be my new weight until the next interruption, when the process would repeat. The only time I’ve lost weight through cycling was one spring/summer when I regularly skipped the train and commuted the whole 25 miles, either one way or both ways. My weekly average mileage went from around 90 fairly-flat miles to around 200 undulating miles (into east Lancashire). But as with most forms of exercise-based weight loss, it is extremely difficult to sustain it for longer than a couple of years at most (and I speak here from repeated experience). So you can out-exercise a moderately-bad diet for a while, but not really long term.

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  11. LetsBePartOfTheSolution
    September 7, 2020 at 5:36 am
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    LTNs:  Please could motorists

    LTNs:  Please could motorists out there just stop complaining about their own congestion and pollution. Some motorists will need to continue driving for mobility reasons, lack of public transport capacity, or ( debatably) for the purposes of delivering microwave ovens. For the rest, please could they understand that they need to reduce: car use, car ownership, oversized cars, ICEs, idling. LTNs are incentivising that switch to active travel. Pressure on the remaining non-LTN road space is not an unintended consequence of LTNs. It is there to disincentivise car use further. They should take the nudge, and reduce their car use. Happily, their/our alternatives of walking or cycling will become more and more attractive – in relationship with every individual car journey that is deleted

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    • mdavidford
      September 7, 2020 at 5:58 am
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      LetsBePartOfTheSolution wrote

      for the purposes of delivering microwave ovens.

      — LetsBePartOfTheSolution

      And, presumably, custom kitchens, refrigerators, and colour TVs?

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      • Captain Badger
        September 7, 2020 at 8:25 am
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        Should have learned to play

        Should have learned to play the guitar, if you ask me….

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  12. Rick_Rude
    September 7, 2020 at 8:54 am
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    Diet IS key. You’re wasting

    Diet IS key. You’re wasting your time taking up exercise for weight loss and eating crap. Ok you may get fitter and stronger but you’ll still look like crap with a stubborn layer fat. The only way you’re eating crap and losing weight is clenbuterol or something else.

    Think of how much exercise you have to do to burn that muffin off. DON’T EAT THE MUFFIN FATSO!!

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mdavidford 3 hours ago

Ralph McTell must figure in there somewhere.

in: Lime and moped riders force cyclist off road and steal bike in “deeply unsettling” attack as London bikejacking reports on the rise
chrisonabike 3 hours ago

@jackcycles And making it much worse is when you import the reckless ideology of billionaires from overseas... My vote for who has wrought more misery on the streets of London than anyone in the history of UK politics is for Boudica, the Queen of the Iceni. Although those behind "Roads For Prosperity" might be up there, had that succeeded. (For the opposite I'll go with Sir Joseph William Bazalgette - I know he doesn't really qualify in the "politics" part though but it's not just socialists who appreciate a sewer) Anyone else any other ideas?

in: Lime and moped riders force cyclist off road and steal bike in “deeply unsettling” attack as London bikejacking reports on the rise
chrisonabike 4 hours ago

@This Wreckage haven't we done this before? You're quite correct about the last part - "in the days of steam shovels we all walked 5 miles to the factory and back every day..." Leaving aside some difficulties with people's self-reported reasons why they don't do things they don't do (sometimes they've simply never thought about it and make stuff up)... ... and assuming we're not simply happily unhappy with the status quo... ... we could ask "what needs to be true" for change and "how do we make that true?" Kids think what most other kids (or the cool kids) do is cool. What's that? It's the stuff the adults they know and respect do. Plus of course what they're being sold... So why don't adults cycle (and indeed why aren't the adults happy to let their kids cycle on their own)? For the answer to that (not necessarily the only / best answer, but just the one we can get to from here): is there anywhere in Europe where a large proportion of adults cycle sometimes (and indeed also a very large proportion of children)? What makes that possible?

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wtjs 6 hours ago

@wtjs Even more interesting! Frames built by Five Land Bikes near Livingston. Impressive website, tempted to have them modify my Merlin titanium for disc brakes, but it's 25 years old. Maybe the over-locknuts wheel widths are too small. Not the sort of business I was expecting to find in the UK! Good luck to them - we need UK manufacturing.

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Mmitb 6 hours ago

@Rendel Harris so it can happen! Maybe I’ll start using it after all…

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Rendel Harris 12 hours ago

In the case of the particular nutter in question, I'm afraid long experience of him under his many different aliases (I think he's been banned under fourteen different names thus far, and those are just the ones I can remember) has demonstrated that he doesn't go away if ignored, indeed if anything he tends to increase his postings, starts to behave as if he is some sort of respected figure on the site and, most tiresomely, draws in other nutters of the same kidney (Martin 73, thisismyusername et al). The only thing that gets rid of him is a ban; site admin are aware of his presence and will ban him when he inevitably steps over the line once again. Until then, I'm afraid it's my personal opinion that his racist, xenophobic alt-far-right filth and lies should not be allowed to go unchallenged. I know others subscribe to the "ignore him and he'll go away" school of thought, and I respect your opinion, but I don't agree.

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belugabob 13 hours ago

@jaymack "what’s AI going to do to people’s ability to think when it ‘relieves’ us of the need to exert some brain power to solve a problem or make a decision?" I feel that this is already underway. Ironically, in an era where most people have a device in their pocket that gives them access to previously unavailable levels of information, the levels of disinformation are truly shocking. At the core of this, is an apparent lack of critical thinking skills - just as having a calculator doesn't provide basic mathematics skills, having information at your disposal doesn't provide the skills necessary to distill that information. AI is just an acceleration of that process

in: AI is destroying the personality that cycling thrives on
wtjs 14 hours ago

Well! Here's cause for thought. I have been on here less recently because of various technical factors on the site and because of the nutters and people holding them here by responding to them. However, I have to look occasionally to find out about cyclist killers and the largely joke suspended penalties. I don't spend much time on the latest 36" wheel or new BB and shoe cleat type trends, or the £12,000 carbon bikes with £4000 wavy profile carbon wheels. I had decided on a Fairlight Secan for next year, but this admirable bike requires much study. This is why we need the site.

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platy 15 hours ago

@cy.cotic great thanks for letting me know

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perce 16 hours ago

@jackcycles Gosh. Sadiq Khan occupies so much room in your head there's little room for anything else. How sad.

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