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“This is a bike path, YOU go back!” Cyclist has no time for driver in cycle lane; Evans Cycles slammed over order delays; Sarah Storey “shocked” at police response to dangerous driving report; Hinault steps in to help ailing Mavic + more on the live blog
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Backlash continues on Evans Cycles social media pages, with customers complaining about order delays
ℹ️ | Please see an update from us below.
✍️ | For all order enquiries, please contact us via email or Facebook Messenger:
💻 Email: socialmedia@evanscycles.com
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— Evans Cycles (@EvansCycles) June 1, 2020
Since posting a statement on the 1st June, Evans Cycles now have over 1,000 comments on their Facebook page and hundreds on their Twitter account, mostly from customers complaining about delays to orders and being unable to contact Evans staff.
Evans say they can’t respond to order queries on Twitter and have advised customers to contact them via email or Facebook messenger; but a number of customers claimed they have been waiting weeks for a response. Like many other bike retailers, Evans have seen sales increase hugely during the lockdown cycling boom citing “unprecedented demand”, and say they are “doing everything we can” to get orders fulfilled in good time.
It’s not the first time Evans have been in hot water since the lockdown began, with the Sports Direct-owned retailer accused of taking advantage of an increased demand for turbo trainers back in March by inflating prices. They’re also not the only cycling retail business who are frustrating customers due to order delays, with Winstanleys Bikes receiving a flurry of negative reviews on TrustPilot due to missing orders, and delays; some also claimed their bikes were poorly set up and/or damaged when they did receive them.
London Congestion Charge rises to £15, with extended charging hours
Congestion Charge in London rises to £15 and has longer hours. This could cut car journeys by a third, reduce exhaust emissions by 11 per cent, and make walking and cycling safer.https://t.co/LLWPJyHdbr
— APPGCW (@allpartycycling) June 16, 2020
The All Party Parliamentary Group for Cycling & Walking say the rise could cut car journeys by a third and “make walking and cycling safer” in the capital.
Wiggle update: retailer promises all customers affected will be refunded in full, and details were accessed externally
road.cc have now received a statement from Wiggle regarding a number of their customers who were targeted by scammers – full story here.
South Yorkshire Police camera footage controversy: force confirm they are now looking to identify the driver
Following replies on Twitter from Inspector Kevin Smith (see further down the page), South Yorkshire Police also sent road.cc this statement:
“Enquiries are underway into reports of dangerous driving on Manchester Road in Crosspool, following reports of a cyclist being overtaken by a car on a double white line on Sunday 14 June.
“Officers are in contact with the rider and enquiries are on-going to identify the driver of the car. “
"This is a bike path, YOU go back!" Brisbane cyclist has no time for driver blocking the bike lane
In the clip, the cyclist filming is faced with the driver of a Hyundai van who has somehow managed to find himself driving down a segregated bike lane. While we can’t quite hear what the driver is saying, the cyclist claims he was arguing that he couldn’t go back and had to go forward to get off.
Standing his ground, the cyclist says: “No, you go back! I’m not going anywhere, you go back!”, before the driver sheepishly reverses to a crossing point: “When he was turning into the road, the people in the back of the van were calling me an assortment of crude names”, he added.
To add icing on the cake, as a traffic light turns green on the main carriageway the van looks to be inching out, so the cyclist then has to warn the driver to watch for the cars before re-joining.
16 June 2020, 08:45
16 June 2020, 08:45
16 June 2020, 08:45
New computers (sort of) from the GPS giants
Garmin adds ‘Plus’ models to the Edge 130 and Edge 1030 GPS cycling computers
Incremental updates announced for Garmin's Edge 130 and 1030 GPS cycling computers
16 June 2020, 08:45
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@mitsky Its another one of those things that makes no sense isn't it. Someone was saying in another thread that we need a harder driving test. I don't think we do. Everyone who has passed in the last 20 years has done a test that is more than happy to fail you for behaviour that 90% of drivers exhibit every time they get behind the wheel. The test is fine. The fact that getting your license seems to be considered some weird proof that you will continue to drive safely is the issue. The fact that when you prove that you cannot drive safely its not immediately revoked is the issue.
@Rendel Harris The issue with GPS chips, as everyone who has one of those black boxes will attest to, is that they are crap. They interpret heavy braking as poor driving rather than someone else forcing it. They see rapid acceleration where there is none. All we need is a much higher chance of people being caught and punished for their everyday shit driving. I'm sure as a cyclist that every single time you go out on your bike you will have a dozen or more times when you think "that would have been a nasty accident if someone was coming the other direction". Eventually, when bad behaviour suffers no consequences it becomes completely normalised. Then we struggle to treat it as anything but a normal, unavoidable accident when that bad behaviour does incur consequences.
Drivers regularly pull out in front of me and cause me to slam on the brakes or avoid them. Very often they have seen me and just assume I'm not going very fast or they assume I will slow down/stop (which I do). Too many drivers don't look for cyclists, hate giving way to them or expect the cyclist to be moving slowly and just pull out.
@Rendel Harris By the time someone is looking at prison time its too late. As has been proven time and time again, the severity of punishment is a poor deterrent to bad behaviour if people don't think its going to happen to them or they don't think they will be caught. Now I do think that there should be far more severe and immediate punishments for bad driving when drivers are caught but this would need to be coupled with a massive push to actually act on information/proof of bad driving. As anyone that submits footage to the police knows, its a crapshoot and certain police forces are anti-cyclist. This would try to essentially put people off misbehaving whilst driving before they cause an accident rather than getting the tired old excuse of "it was a single dangerous incident, they definitely don't do this all the time and their luck finally ran out". Perhaps it should go even further and if you have a history of speeding and you hurt someone speeding, that is looked upon in a very dim light.
Can we talk about “Washing up liquid contains a lot of salt – not a great idea to use a corrosive substance on a bicycle”? This is an urban myth. I have washed all of our many bikes using Fairy liquid or Ecover for decades. I’ve never found any evidence of corrosion, paint, laquer or decal wear, or any sign of anything. I regularly service forks and bearings, swapping a lot of gear, and everything has always been fine. Here’s far too much info below - long story short, Fairy liquid in 5L of hot water has a borderline-homeopathic amount of salt, it’s fine to use on a bike. ============ The honest answer is that neither Fairy nor Ecover publicly disclose the actual sodium chloride concentration in the consumer products I could find. The safety data sheets list hazardous ingredients above reporting thresholds, but sodium chloride is not reported for either product. However, we can put some realistic bounds on it. Fairy Original The SDS lists: Sodium laureth sulfate: 20-30% Lauramine oxide: 5-10% Alcohol: 1-5% No sodium chloride is declared. 15 In detergent formulations, sodium chloride is commonly used as a viscosity modifier (thickener) and is typically present at around 0.5-3%, sometimes lower. The absence of declaration suggests it is either not present or present at a low concentration that does not require reporting. This range is an informed formulation estimate, not a value stated by Fairy. Ecover The Ecover ingredient information lists: Sodium lauryl sulfate Lauryl glucoside Cocamidopropyl betaine Alcohol Lactic acid Sodium octyl sulphate Again, no sodium chloride is listed. Ecover's formulations tend to rely more heavily on plant-derived surfactants and may use little or no salt for thickening, but I could not find a published concentration. 63 What does this mean for bike washing? Let's assume a worst-case 3% salt content in Fairy. If you add: 10 mL Fairy to a 5-litre bucket Then salt introduced would be approximately: 10 mL × 3% ≈ 0.3 g salt Distributed through 5 L water ≈ 60 mg/L salt For comparison: Typical seawater: ~35,000 mg/L Lightly salted winter road spray: often hundreds to thousands of mg/L The wash bucket above: ~60 mg/L So even under a pessimistic assumption, the salt concentration is hundreds to thousands of times lower than the salt exposure your bike gets from winter roads. From a corrosion perspective, the quantity of salt introduced by washing-up liquid is essentially negligible compared with: Riding on salted roads Coastal spray Leaving winter grime on the bike Therefore my practical conclusion remains: ✅ Fairy or Ecover in a wash bucket is extremely unlikely to contribute any measurable corrosion risk. ✅ The important thing is rinsing and drying afterwards. ✅ Winter road salt is the real enemy, not washing-up liquid.
Another example of a driver's actions that would have been a straight fail in a driving test but is barely likely to lead to a disqualification... I'm wondering if having a driving licence is like a "Get out of jail free" card...
Yes indeed. I have a version of the R8100 and you definitively need ceramic for the socket.
@perce I'm not sure I agree with that. I think thats just confirming that he is take fully responsibility and recognises that the cyclist could have done nothing to mitigate it.
If we don't fight it now, we'll all end up forced to wear baggy shorts!
@Rendel Harris Agree, I am baffled that the 84 year old who is now banned from driving for year can then start driving again without a retest. We should be re-tested regularly.
24 thoughts on ““This is a bike path, YOU go back!” Cyclist has no time for driver in cycle lane; Evans Cycles slammed over order delays; Sarah Storey “shocked” at police response to dangerous driving report; Hinault steps in to help ailing Mavic + more on the live blog”
How tragic that such a
How tragic that such a pathetically intrasigent force such as SYP actually has to be publically shamed into action by another police force
Will they really look? I
Will they really look? I wonder if he’ll have the decency to follow it up on social media.
I appreciate what Andy Cox is doing but it’s seems it’s like one man vs the rest.
Apparently Ant Middleton has
Apparently Ant Middleton has now deleted his tweet above, and apologised if anyone misconstrued his tweet and took offence…
He’s a liar.
He’s a liar.
Kinda wondering how a tweet
Kinda wondering how a tweet that directly equates BLM to the EDL can be mis-construed. He’s basically saying that people who just want to be treated equally are the same as wannabe Nazi’s.
Yes, but bear in mind he is
Yes, but bear in mind he is the sort of retard that went to Afghanistan to shoot people for their own benefit in the first place.
Servicemen and women go where
Servicemen and women go where they’re sent. I don’t think anyone who served there would have really wanted to go, but that’s the job.
Agreed
Agreed
Of course he’s deleted it.
Of course he’s deleted it. Everyone should know by now that critising BLM shall not be tolerated. There is a free speech vacuum around that organisation. Any negativity wrt BLM will result in a forced grovelling apology/cancellation/firing from your job etc.
Its laughable and terryfing in equal measure, though not surprising from that end of the political spectrum.
You’re dead right.
You’re dead right.
The Left has highjacked free speech and the commercial media and the BLM protests are proof of that.
BLM – is that the same as the
BLM – is that the same as the ‘Lloyd George bandwagon’ that you mentioned in one of your previous post? LOL.
You still haven’t told me what the ‘Lloyd George bandwagon’ is – can I join? Do i need to be a Liberal and support Irish Home rule? Should I grow a mustache to join?
NZ Vegan Rider wrote:
So: you are using the BLM protests and reporting of the same all over the media, and the anti-BLM protests and reporting of that all over the media, as evidence that there is no freedom of speech?
Alrighty then…
I’m glad you didn’t mention
I’m glad you didn’t mention how much of the media is controlled by Murdoch’s News Corp which is listing so far to the right it’s almost capsized, that might have made his head explode…
What you need to remember is
What you need to remember is that with free speech comes with a responsibility to moderate what you say, such as the difference between “Black Lives Matter” and “get out of MY country”, think about that sheep worrier <irony>
You have just criticized BLM.
You have just criticized BLM. So what exactly is your real point?
Lukas wrote:
Lol. That’s always the problem with rightwing racists – are there any other? – a lack of self-awareness and perspective.
Freedom of speech is a right that carries with it responsibilities. If they can’t abide by the second then expect the adults in the room to at times curtail their use of the first.
billymansell wrote:
…and written without a hint of irony.
Remind me which party is currently being investigated by the EHRC?
srchar wrote:
The Labour Party. The EHRC decided not to proceed with their own one against the Conservative Party only after the latter agreed to an indepedent investigation into complaints. Both should be looked at, no-one should really think any of the parties are spot-less angels and the rest demons but that appears to be the case all too frequently, always has… perhaps the John Cleese clip posted the other day could be introduced as a Public Information Film….
I’m posting it again: https:/
I’m posting it again: https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1271535485467283457
hawkinspeter wrote:
Wow. History never repeats, but it does rhyme…
fukawitribe wrote:
Exactly. The left won’t get back into government until they realise that they have to actually bring along some of the more centrist Tory voters over to their side. Simply calling anyone to the right of oneself “racist” won’t do this. And labelling whole swathes of not-racist people like this gives feelings of legitimacy to the genuine racists who do need to have their attitudes changed.
Is Dave looking for child
Is Dave looking for child care, or is he after an eye test??.
Regarding the Mavic story, If
Regarding the Mavic story, If Bernard Hinault can assist in getting them up and running again, may I suggest an idea for continued success. Return to building quality wheel sets again instead of the shit they have produced in recent years.
The cycle lanes that are
The cycle lanes that are ‘popping up’ around central London are really good – or at least the ones I have used. Some of them are looking quite permanent and are being introduced under an ETO (emergency traffic order) which means the consultation will be post implementation – in 12 to 18 months time. By which time the filtering and infrastructure will be part of the environment and accepted. Unfortunately not all boroughs in London are using the available funding or the ETOs and are doing ‘nada’.