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“This is a bike path, YOU go back!” Cyclist has no time for driver in cycle lane; Evans Cycles slammed over order delays; Sarah Storey “shocked” at police response to dangerous driving report; Hinault steps in to help ailing Mavic + more on the live blog
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Backlash continues on Evans Cycles social media pages, with customers complaining about order delays
ℹ️ | Please see an update from us below.
✍️ | For all order enquiries, please contact us via email or Facebook Messenger:
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— Evans Cycles (@EvansCycles) June 1, 2020
Since posting a statement on the 1st June, Evans Cycles now have over 1,000 comments on their Facebook page and hundreds on their Twitter account, mostly from customers complaining about delays to orders and being unable to contact Evans staff.
Evans say they can’t respond to order queries on Twitter and have advised customers to contact them via email or Facebook messenger; but a number of customers claimed they have been waiting weeks for a response. Like many other bike retailers, Evans have seen sales increase hugely during the lockdown cycling boom citing “unprecedented demand”, and say they are “doing everything we can” to get orders fulfilled in good time.
It’s not the first time Evans have been in hot water since the lockdown began, with the Sports Direct-owned retailer accused of taking advantage of an increased demand for turbo trainers back in March by inflating prices. They’re also not the only cycling retail business who are frustrating customers due to order delays, with Winstanleys Bikes receiving a flurry of negative reviews on TrustPilot due to missing orders, and delays; some also claimed their bikes were poorly set up and/or damaged when they did receive them.
London Congestion Charge rises to £15, with extended charging hours
Congestion Charge in London rises to £15 and has longer hours. This could cut car journeys by a third, reduce exhaust emissions by 11 per cent, and make walking and cycling safer.https://t.co/LLWPJyHdbr
— APPGCW (@allpartycycling) June 16, 2020
The All Party Parliamentary Group for Cycling & Walking say the rise could cut car journeys by a third and “make walking and cycling safer” in the capital.
Wiggle update: retailer promises all customers affected will be refunded in full, and details were accessed externally
road.cc have now received a statement from Wiggle regarding a number of their customers who were targeted by scammers – full story here.
South Yorkshire Police camera footage controversy: force confirm they are now looking to identify the driver
Following replies on Twitter from Inspector Kevin Smith (see further down the page), South Yorkshire Police also sent road.cc this statement:
“Enquiries are underway into reports of dangerous driving on Manchester Road in Crosspool, following reports of a cyclist being overtaken by a car on a double white line on Sunday 14 June.
“Officers are in contact with the rider and enquiries are on-going to identify the driver of the car. “
"This is a bike path, YOU go back!" Brisbane cyclist has no time for driver blocking the bike lane
In the clip, the cyclist filming is faced with the driver of a Hyundai van who has somehow managed to find himself driving down a segregated bike lane. While we can’t quite hear what the driver is saying, the cyclist claims he was arguing that he couldn’t go back and had to go forward to get off.
Standing his ground, the cyclist says: “No, you go back! I’m not going anywhere, you go back!”, before the driver sheepishly reverses to a crossing point: “When he was turning into the road, the people in the back of the van were calling me an assortment of crude names”, he added.
To add icing on the cake, as a traffic light turns green on the main carriageway the van looks to be inching out, so the cyclist then has to warn the driver to watch for the cars before re-joining.
16 June 2020, 08:45
16 June 2020, 08:45
16 June 2020, 08:45
New computers (sort of) from the GPS giants
Garmin adds ‘Plus’ models to the Edge 130 and Edge 1030 GPS cycling computers
Incremental updates announced for Garmin's Edge 130 and 1030 GPS cycling computers
16 June 2020, 08:45
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maybe we shouldn't be making cars so big and heavy?
It's worth noting that Fife (where Dunfermline is) started implementing 20's in 2005. By 2015 all residential zones and town centres had them. The additional new ones in Dunfermline reported above are just for a small number of remaining streets to meet the guidance from the SG. Fife Council used traffic calming and compliance is very good as a result. The vast majority of people support them.
@Robert Hardy The lady was standing on a traffic island in the road giving every appearance of waiting for the cyclists to go by. She then, according to independent eye witnesses, for unknown reasons, stepped out in front of the rider when he was two metres away. Even at 15mph two metres takes 0.30 of a second; the baseline reaction time as employed by the guidance in the Highway Code is 0.67 seconds. To have had that amount of time to react (that's to even start pulling the brakes) the rider would have had to be travelling at 7.5mph. The lady's death was, sadly, caused by her own actions in stepping straight in front of a cyclist who had no chance to stop and would not have done even if he had been going at one third of his actual speed. That's why no criminal proceedings were taken against the cyclist. Just for your information, as you seem to think "it was a road in a public park" is somehow damning, the Outer Circle marks the outer perimeter of the park, and it is a very busy standard London road. The Daily Mail and The Evening Standard tried this "cyclists thundering through a public park" line with pictures of locations in the park where cyclists are banned, it has no validity.
@mdavidford I think we're conflating two different things here. 1. That the throttle did not cut off at 25kph. We can assume it will never cut out. 2. That the bike is capable of 58mph. Not a valid test with no load. I still hold firm on the nads, though.
@Robert Hardy indeed, just because its rated for 2 kW doesn't mean it's putting that out under no load. They probably looked up the model number.
I.e. that wasn't determined as a result of the 'pick it up and rev it' test. It may just mean they got back to the station and looked it up on the internet, or even that it advertised the output on the motor itself.
It was a road in public park and the spot where she was killed was in close proximity to warning signs to traffic of the need for caution as regards pedestrians. If they had been cycling with due caution it is much more likely that they could have stopped in time and very much less likely she would have been killed.
Cycles are better than cars per urban mile travelled in terms of injuries contributed to, but not by as much as to justify complacently dismissing the issue. I don't think it unreasonable for cycles to be expected to keep below 20mph in 20mph zones. That is a fair lick by any standards on a bike and considerably faster than the vast majority of other cyclists on the road.
Not quite sure how he determined the 2kW thats pretty close to the heat output of a 3 bar electric fire, if it wasn't moving to generate sufficient airflow it wouldn't take long to be glowing red! Certainly the motor couldnt demand and output that kind of power without the resistance of the road against the weight of rider and bike and some frighteningly aggressive acceleration.
@mattw "I think we already have a “safety system” on our roads – that interventions are evidence based." Partially. We can - for example motorway design/rules are a fairly good example of a broader "safety first" approach. (Possible exceptions being the removal of some the hard shoulders to add capacity - more on "capacity" later). BUT contrast what happens on other roads. Particularly our "multi-function" urban roads which act as both "places" (parking, lots of pedestrians about) and "routes" (motorists wanting to pass through). Under e.g. the Dutch system that would be a fundamental conflict of interests which would need to be resolved (streets / roads should serve a single function). There is a fundamentally different starting point: the Dutch system starts from "*everyone* can travel *safely*". But baked into the UK system is the notion of "flow of *motor* traffic" being at least as important as safety. Thus it ends up making it OK to provide for vulnerable road users effectively as an afterthought - and particularly at the expense of their convenience, because that motor traffic capacity is one of the most important things. (In the machinery of local government we have all kinds of metrics related to this which ensure that happens e.g. "journey time reduction" etc. which is what Chris Boardman et al. were looking at). This also helps explain why "our roads are relatively safer than other places in Europe in that context" We have achieved safety by literally driving the vulnerable road users off the streets! As many streets have effectively become roads it then becomes logical to all that they are "for" motor traffic, and people should just get in the car. That has become self-reinforcing. And for anyone left who can't / won't it's "well ... take your chances; or use the narrow footway, wait several minutes to cross the road at the lights or descend into the occasional unpleasant and socially unsafe pit of an underpass..." Note that NL road safety is still very good *despite* having a sizeable fraction of the population cycling, including the rather young and old. (Cycling is (in isolation) probably inherently a little more risky that walking - I don't have numbers though). And IIRC it's safer specifically for *pedestrians* there (despite all those dangerous cyclists...)
24 thoughts on ““This is a bike path, YOU go back!” Cyclist has no time for driver in cycle lane; Evans Cycles slammed over order delays; Sarah Storey “shocked” at police response to dangerous driving report; Hinault steps in to help ailing Mavic + more on the live blog”
How tragic that such a
How tragic that such a pathetically intrasigent force such as SYP actually has to be publically shamed into action by another police force
Will they really look? I
Will they really look? I wonder if he’ll have the decency to follow it up on social media.
I appreciate what Andy Cox is doing but it’s seems it’s like one man vs the rest.
Apparently Ant Middleton has
Apparently Ant Middleton has now deleted his tweet above, and apologised if anyone misconstrued his tweet and took offence…
He’s a liar.
He’s a liar.
Kinda wondering how a tweet
Kinda wondering how a tweet that directly equates BLM to the EDL can be mis-construed. He’s basically saying that people who just want to be treated equally are the same as wannabe Nazi’s.
Yes, but bear in mind he is
Yes, but bear in mind he is the sort of retard that went to Afghanistan to shoot people for their own benefit in the first place.
Servicemen and women go where
Servicemen and women go where they’re sent. I don’t think anyone who served there would have really wanted to go, but that’s the job.
Agreed
Agreed
Of course he’s deleted it.
Of course he’s deleted it. Everyone should know by now that critising BLM shall not be tolerated. There is a free speech vacuum around that organisation. Any negativity wrt BLM will result in a forced grovelling apology/cancellation/firing from your job etc.
Its laughable and terryfing in equal measure, though not surprising from that end of the political spectrum.
You’re dead right.
You’re dead right.
The Left has highjacked free speech and the commercial media and the BLM protests are proof of that.
BLM – is that the same as the
BLM – is that the same as the ‘Lloyd George bandwagon’ that you mentioned in one of your previous post? LOL.
You still haven’t told me what the ‘Lloyd George bandwagon’ is – can I join? Do i need to be a Liberal and support Irish Home rule? Should I grow a mustache to join?
NZ Vegan Rider wrote:
So: you are using the BLM protests and reporting of the same all over the media, and the anti-BLM protests and reporting of that all over the media, as evidence that there is no freedom of speech?
Alrighty then…
I’m glad you didn’t mention
I’m glad you didn’t mention how much of the media is controlled by Murdoch’s News Corp which is listing so far to the right it’s almost capsized, that might have made his head explode…
What you need to remember is
What you need to remember is that with free speech comes with a responsibility to moderate what you say, such as the difference between “Black Lives Matter” and “get out of MY country”, think about that sheep worrier <irony>
You have just criticized BLM.
You have just criticized BLM. So what exactly is your real point?
Lukas wrote:
Lol. That’s always the problem with rightwing racists – are there any other? – a lack of self-awareness and perspective.
Freedom of speech is a right that carries with it responsibilities. If they can’t abide by the second then expect the adults in the room to at times curtail their use of the first.
billymansell wrote:
…and written without a hint of irony.
Remind me which party is currently being investigated by the EHRC?
srchar wrote:
The Labour Party. The EHRC decided not to proceed with their own one against the Conservative Party only after the latter agreed to an indepedent investigation into complaints. Both should be looked at, no-one should really think any of the parties are spot-less angels and the rest demons but that appears to be the case all too frequently, always has… perhaps the John Cleese clip posted the other day could be introduced as a Public Information Film….
I’m posting it again: https:/
I’m posting it again: https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1271535485467283457
hawkinspeter wrote:
Wow. History never repeats, but it does rhyme…
fukawitribe wrote:
Exactly. The left won’t get back into government until they realise that they have to actually bring along some of the more centrist Tory voters over to their side. Simply calling anyone to the right of oneself “racist” won’t do this. And labelling whole swathes of not-racist people like this gives feelings of legitimacy to the genuine racists who do need to have their attitudes changed.
Is Dave looking for child
Is Dave looking for child care, or is he after an eye test??.
Regarding the Mavic story, If
Regarding the Mavic story, If Bernard Hinault can assist in getting them up and running again, may I suggest an idea for continued success. Return to building quality wheel sets again instead of the shit they have produced in recent years.
The cycle lanes that are
The cycle lanes that are ‘popping up’ around central London are really good – or at least the ones I have used. Some of them are looking quite permanent and are being introduced under an ETO (emergency traffic order) which means the consultation will be post implementation – in 12 to 18 months time. By which time the filtering and infrastructure will be part of the environment and accepted. Unfortunately not all boroughs in London are using the available funding or the ETOs and are doing ‘nada’.