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Cyclist helps elderly man.PNG
Stolen penny-farthing (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Out of the ordinary STOLEN BIKE ALERT! Penny-farthing pinched from London cyclist; UAE Team Emirates rider goes off course during Dauphiné time trial; “We need physical barriers between motorists & cyclists” + more on the live blog

It’s Wednesday and Dan Alexander is back in the live blog hot seat for today’s dose of cycling news, reaction and more
  • by Dan Alexander
Wed, Jun 05, 2024 08:16
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SUMMARY

  • Cyclist-turned-actor? Peter Sagan stars in Slovakian beer advert
  • Dream or nightmare? JonnyMole's Dream Machine 2.5 is a gravel bike… but not as we know it
  • "We need physical barriers between motorists and cyclists": Parent highlights cycling safety issues families face just trying to get from A to B by bike
  • Dame Sarah Storey (and many others from across the cycling community) wish Kate Richardson speedy recovery after hit-and-run rules pro rider out of Tour of Britain
  • REVIEW: Scott Addict RC 30 2024
  • A Tale of Two (Cycling) Cities
  • Astana Qazaqstan budget will be one of three biggest in pro peloton if deal with Chinese partner agreed
  • Police release video of violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill which left victim seriously injured with punctured lung when masked thugs on motorbike kicked him off popular cycle path
  • Does a very long wait in the hot seat await Josh Tarling?
  • "This climb wasn't on today's menu": UAE Team Emirates rider Nils Politt goes off course during Dauphiné time trial
  • Remco removes Tarling from the hot seat
  • Remco Evenepoel wins Critérium du Dauphiné time trial, takes control of GC contest
  • The leaked Tour de France road bikes — new bikes from Trek, Pinarello, Canyon, Dare & Wilier
  • Are drones the future of close pass operations? Police in Canada to use drones as part of attempt to clamp down on dangerous driving around cyclists
  • A lifetime of cycling can lead to less knee pain, new study finds
  • Out of the ordinary STOLEN BIKE ALERT!
Cyclist helps elderly man.PNG
Stolen penny-farthing (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
5 June 2024, 08:16

Cyclist-turned-actor? Peter Sagan stars in Slovakian beer advert

If ever there was a way to get over failing to amass enough points to qualify for the cross-country mountain bike event at this summer’s Olympics, sunning yourself on a nice beach somewhere with a few beers would be right up there. And when you’ve already won almost everything possible on the road, becoming an international superstar in the process, cashing some nice cheques promoting a few products back in Slovakia must seem a pretty cushty arrangement. 

By the way in Slovakia we have Peter Sagan in new summer TV spot for ‘Zlatý Bažant’ beer. Here it is. 😁 pic.twitter.com/P8yUxBZwCk

— Lukáš Ronald Lukács (@lucasaganronald) June 4, 2024

He’s already famously auditioned for the Danny Zuko role in Grease, so maybe an acting career will follow?

Peter Sagan in Grease.JPG
Peter Sagan in Grease (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Peter Sagan in Grease.JPG
Peter Sagan in Grease (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

And who knows, maybe cycling-related beer ads will blow up and in the not too distant future we’ll see Cav being wheeled out to promote the ‘joys’ of sipping a pint of Carling on a summer’s afternoon? Something tells me Tom Pidcock won’t be getting the Amstel gig any time soon…

Tom Pidcock, 2024 Amstel Gold Race (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tom Pidcock, 2024 Amstel Gold Race (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Obviously we’ll have to get a few crates of the Zlatý Bažant delivered to the road.cc office for a review. Purely for important research and testing purposes, of course, although if possible we’d be after something a little bit stronger than the alcohol-free ones Sagan’s seen slugging. 

Maybe alcohol-free is for the best where the three-time world champion is concerned, considering this is the same Sagan who was last summer handed a three-month suspended prison sentence for drink driving.

Sagan was also banned from driving for three months after being caught “dangerously” riding his scooter the morning after a night out in Monaco in May 2023.

Officers reported spotting Sagan trying to park his scooter “in a space reserved for two-wheelers” and then “very quickly noticed the signs of the scooter driver’s drunkenness”. 

5 June 2024, 08:16

Dream or nightmare? JonnyMole's Dream Machine 2.5 is a gravel bike… but not as we know it

In case you were on the night shift and need a quick pre-bed look at a bicycle… 

2024 JonnyMole Dream Machine 2.5 - 1 (4)
2024 JonnyMole Dream Machine 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2024 JonnyMole Dream Machine 2.5 - 1 (4)
2024 JonnyMole Dream Machine 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Dream or nightmare? JonnyMole’s Dream Machine 2.5 is a gravel bike… but not as we know it

5 June 2024, 08:16

"We need physical barriers between motorists and cyclists": Parent highlights cycling safety issues families face just trying to get from A to B by bike

“It doesn’t matter how well trained he is or how well he cycles. Paint isn’t infrastructure and it won’t help him. We need physical barriers between motor traffic and cyclists. And no… clearly the pavement isn’t an option here or anywhere else.”

Those are the words of a road.cc reader who goes by the username AZB on Twitter/X and has highlighted the issues that face families that wish to cycle journeys in London and many other places.

Child and parent cycle on "particularly bad" route for cycling (@azb2019)
Child and parent cycle on "particularly bad" route for cycling (@azb2019) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Child and parent cycle on "particularly bad" route for cycling (@azb2019)
Child and parent cycle on "particularly bad" route for cycling (@azb2019) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[@azb2019/Twitter]

The road in question, heading southbound on Upper Tooting Road, is actually part of CS7, a major cycling route from the City to Colliers Wood in south London, but this section is “particularly bad” and one of Tooting’s numerous areas where AZB reports there is “literally nothing to keep cyclists safe”.

“They often have those soft little wands (many of which have been hit by drivers) but loads of parts of CS7 are like this and make cycling there really hard,” they explained. “I cycle with my children really often but rarely go through the CS7 with them riding independently because it’s not wide enough to ride side by side and I simply don’t trust drivers to see him and not turn across and hit my children.

“I can’t count the number of times a driver has failed to see or failed to give way to me on my bike so I just know they won’t see or give way to him. It’s the main cycle route for us from Kingston into central London and although we very very rarely cycle all that way independently, we often take smaller journeys along the CS7 and most of it is pretty bad for safe cycling.”

Journeys to school are better as “it’s quiet roads and when we get to the busier roads, he’s able to ride on the pavement there”.

> “Currently, it is not safe for some children to cycle to school”: Sustrans’ Head of Behaviour Change on “fostering a culture of active travel” in schools

Last August, a video of a five-year-old having to navigate traffic and a blocked bike lane while cycling to school with his father went viral, the child’s impressive bike-handling skills and the state of many British routes for vulnerable road users the main talking points.

5-year-old cyclist on the A10, London (Twitter)
5-year-old cyclist on the A10, London (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
5-year-old cyclist on the A10, London (Twitter)
5-year-old cyclist on the A10, London (Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

One of the child’s parents told road.cc: “When I speak to my friends with kids, the primary reason they don’t cycle with their kids is safety. I think driving behaviours affect kids riding as a form of transport as their parents are put off using a bike over the car due to safety.”

Just a couple of months ago, students, pupils, and teachers at a north London school aiming to encourage active travel have called on the local authority to install safety measures at a crossroads described as “unsafe and extremely intimidating”, after 11 incidents which saw pedestrians or cyclists hit by motorists in the past five years. 

It’s not the first time AZB has featured on road.cc with the issue of child cycle safety, a video in 2022 also going viral and prompting discussion on Jeremy Vine’s Channel 5 show, as well as criticism from two Conservative politicians (if you’d believe it?!) 

In the clip, a driver could be seen refusing to wait a few seconds for the parent and child to pass, continuing at speed past the pair as they cycled on a road narrowed due to parked cars.

Viral video debated on Jeremy Vine show (screenshot Twitter video/ @azb2019)
@azb2019) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Viral video debated on Jeremy Vine show (screenshot Twitter video/ @azb2019)
@azb2019) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Susan Hall, who failed in her bid to become London’s mayor, claimed: “Surely the issue here is that a 5-year-old should not be on the public highway riding a bike!” The comments were unsurprisingly widely criticised.

Conservative peer Baroness Foster — appointed to the House of Lords by then Prime Minister Boris Johnson in December 2020 — also argued: “A child that small should not be cycling on a road! A completely irresponsible decision along with your comments that puts the entire onus on the car drivers if/when something goes horribly wrong!”

Much of the discussion from cyclists centred around challenging the “car-centric” mindset of the politicians who refused to accept children should be making journeys by bike on roads, as well as featuring calls from many for more protected infrastructure to allow vulnerable road users safer journeys.

> “You couldn’t make it up”: Driver – in untaxed, SORN-registered car with expired MOT – mounts pavement on wrong side of the road… then chastises six-year-old for cycling on same footpath

5 June 2024, 08:16

Dame Sarah Storey (and many others from across the cycling community) wish Kate Richardson speedy recovery after hit-and-run rules pro rider out of Tour of Britain

Utterly dreadful news, hoping Kate makes a speedy recovery & after the physical injuries have healed she can manage the psychological impact. https://t.co/iuebEDsagn

— Dame Sarah Storey (@DameSarahStorey) June 5, 2024

Journalist and presenter at Sky Sports Sanny Rudravajhala also commented on the story…

We’re about to have an elite women’s road race in Britain and such is the current state of play, we’ve got a 4×4 driver nearly killing one of our British riders.

This is absolutely unhinged. @roadcc article link below. ⬇️ https://t.co/bNKIn2bjlO pic.twitter.com/nvEAwD31nA

— Sanny Rudravajhala (@Sanny_Rudra) June 4, 2024

There has been plenty of discussion given the high-profile nature of the incident, 
Tim Egan suggesting that “road violence and violence against people on bikes is normal in England”. I’m sure some of you in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland would edit that to the whole of the United Kingdom.

“My son races at under 16 level but does most of training on turbo trainer and in car free space, I now commute on canal, my wife rides on pavement and canal. Is totally lawless with no justice for victims,” he added.

Mark: “Depressing how outside of the cycling press this has also received zero coverage.”

Ross McGibbon: “Always use a camera. Let’s get the dangerous drivers caught for everyone’s benefit.”

Bev G-o: “Having been knocked hit by a car [driver] overtaking me and it then having a head-on collision with the car coming towards it, it terrifies me the number of drivers that make serious errors of judgement regarding overtaking cyclists.

“Cameras front and back are the way to get these people prosecuted for their reckless and dangerous driving. If it wasn’t for my camera, two drivers would have got away with this. Instead, they were both prosecuted for driving without due care and attention. No, my camera didn’t stop me being hit but it helped get justice and charges brought against those involved.

“I hope she’s okay, recovers quickly and this experience doesn’t stop her from doing the sport she loves.”

5 June 2024, 08:16

REVIEW: Scott Addict RC 30 2024

2024 Scott Addict RC 30 - riding 3.jpg
2024 Scott Addict RC 30 - riding 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2024 Scott Addict RC 30 - riding 3.jpg
2024 Scott Addict RC 30 – riding 3 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> REVIEW: Scott Addict RC 30 2024

5 June 2024, 08:16

A Tale of Two (Cycling) Cities

8.30am in London yesterday morning, as filmed by Rory McCarron a cycling lawyer at Leigh Day:

London 08:30am pic.twitter.com/udbQJL3fPD

— Rory McCarron (@CyclingLawLDN) June 4, 2024

8.45am in Paris this morning, as filmed by Brice Perrin:

Paris, rue La Fayette, ce matin à 8h45.

Sorti de l’usage anecdotique et militant, le vélo est devenu un mode de déplacement massif pour les trajets quotidiens.
Dans la capitale française, sa part modale est déjà presque trois fois supérieure à celle de l’automobile (11% VS 4%). pic.twitter.com/0uxHzEzTzr

— Brice Perrin (@briceperrin) June 5, 2024
 

Down(tube) and out in Paris and London didn’t make the cut for the headline, but seemed too tortured not to give a mention before I move on…

5 June 2024, 08:16

Astana Qazaqstan budget will be one of three biggest in pro peloton if deal with Chinese partner agreed

Astana Qazaqstan at 2023 Tour de France (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Astana Qazaqstan at 2023 Tour de France (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

L’Equipe has this morning reported that Astana Qazaqstan may be getting some new backing, a Chinese partner apparently interested in almost doubling the team’s budget. The French newspaper describes the potential deal as “XXL” and says a Chinese businessman is prepared to buy the team from the Kazakhs in 2025 in a five-year agreement.

The Astana name has been in the peloton since 2006, the team the first to be financed by government funds, a move that has since been repeated by Bahrain, UAE and Israel. L’Equipe says, if the deal comes together, the team would enjoy a significantly increased budget, placing them within the top three best backed outfits in the peloton.

5 June 2024, 08:16

Police release video of violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill which left victim seriously injured with punctured lung when masked thugs on motorbike kicked him off popular cycle path

Violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill (Surrey Police)
Violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill (Surrey Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill (Surrey Police)
Violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill (Surrey Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Police release video of violent attack on cyclist near Box Hill which left victim seriously injured with punctured lung when masked thugs on motorbike kicked him off popular cycle path

5 June 2024, 08:16

Does a very long wait in the hot seat await Josh Tarling?

The Critérium du Dauphiné time trial is underway, Ineos Grenadiers rider Josh Tarling the first to cross the line in Neulise. He wasn’t the first to start however, the Welsh powerhouse passing three riders on his way to the fastest time so far. He’ll now head to the hot seat where a quite lengthy wait will presumably commence, potentially all the way until about quarter to four when the final challenger will finish. 

⏱ 🇬🇧@Joshytarling donne le ton sur ce contre-la-montre avec le meilleur temps sur la ligne d’arrivée !

⏱ 🇬🇧@Joshytarling sets the fastest time!#Dauphine l @TISSOT pic.twitter.com/1Nhu23CK2a

— Critérium du Dauphiné (@dauphine) June 5, 2024

The noises out of the Tarling camp were that he won’t be at 100% today, having taken some time off after Paris-Roubaix, however he’s two and a half minutes quicker than anybody else so far. Around an hour until Remco Evenepoel rolls down the start ramp, and then Primož Roglič will get underway at 15:11. Can anybody beat Tarling?

5 June 2024, 08:16

"This climb wasn't on today's menu": UAE Team Emirates rider Nils Politt goes off course during Dauphiné time trial

‘Tight bend coming up, keep an eye on the exit of the corner, hold that speed through the turnnnnnn… bleep…’ 

⏱Cette montée n’était pas au programme du jour 🇩🇪 @PolittNils

⏱This climb wasn’t on today’s menu 🇩🇪 @PolittNils#Dauphine l @TISSOT pic.twitter.com/Uu4s9qzeqW

— Critérium du Dauphiné (@dauphine) June 5, 2024

“This climb wasn’t on today’s menu…” the official Critérium du Dauphiné account joked, the big German Nils Politt not looking too bothered by his U-turn detour. He certainly took it better than at last year’s Tour when he snapped his chain before performing a roadside bike fit amid neutral service blundering. Third time lucky…

Nils Politt neutral service nightmare (GCN/Eurosport)
Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Nils Politt neutral service nightmare (GCN/Eurosport)
Eurosport) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

By the time Politt crossed the line he had set the fourth fastest time, more than two minutes down on that set by a rampaging Josh Tarling at the start of the day. The GC favourites are preparing their efforts so it remains to be seen where Politt and Tarling end up, Remco Evenepoel setting the fastest time at the first checkpoint and Primož Roglič still warming up at the Bora-Hansgrohe bus. It could be an interesting next hour or so. Whatever you do, don’t copy Nils…

5 June 2024, 08:16

Remco removes Tarling from the hot seat

That could well be the stage. Part of me wonders if poor Josh Tarling is just relieved to be free from his hot seat incarceration… almost certainly not considering that would have been a massive win for the Ineos Grenadiers youngster. He’d probably have sat there until midnight if required.

Wow, @EvenepoelRemco 👏#Dauphine pic.twitter.com/2km3RDAhGI

— Soudal Quick-Step Pro Cycling Team (@soudalquickstep) June 5, 2024

Evenepoel was one second down on the Brit at the second checkpoint but timed his effort perfectly, finishing 17 seconds clear after some monstrous closing kilometres. Looking at those left to finish, and their first time check efforts, Juan Ayuso may be the only person who can spoil the Belgian’s day. We hyped him up but Primož Roglič was 26 seconds down on Remco at that aforementioned checkpoint. It looks like Patrick Lefevere’s going to be a happy man this evening…

5 June 2024, 08:16

Remco Evenepoel wins Critérium du Dauphiné time trial, takes control of GC contest

In the end nobody could trouble Remco Evenepoel once he’d bested Josh Tarling’s early benchmark, the Belgian taking a dominant win and claiming the race lead from Derek Gee, who put in a respectable ride but ultimately fell short of defending the jersey.

A great day for our team concludes with @EvenepoelRemco in the #Dauphine yellow jersey 🙌

Photo: @GettySport pic.twitter.com/9VjCm8TGPg

— Soudal Quick-Step Pro Cycling Team (@soudalquickstep) June 5, 2024

Primož Roglič rallied to take third on the day but sits 33 seconds behind Evenepoel on GC. It was a grim day for the rest, Juan Ayuso, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Aleksandr Vlasov, Jack Haig and Jai Hindley all shipping time to the stage winner. It puts the Belgian press on notice for a pre-Tour frenzy should their man hold out through the second half of the week as the race passes into the mountains. The others will be hoping the disrupted preparation catches up with Remco, but so far it’s all looking very positive for the Soudal Quick-Step man…

5 June 2024, 08:16

The leaked Tour de France road bikes — new bikes from Trek, Pinarello, Canyon, Dare & Wilier

5 June 2024, 08:16

Are drones the future of close pass operations? Police in Canada to use drones as part of attempt to clamp down on dangerous driving around cyclists

York Regional Police close pass campaign with drone (York Regional police)
York Regional Police close pass campaign with drone (York Regional police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
York Regional Police close pass campaign with drone (York Regional police)
York Regional Police close pass campaign with drone (York Regional police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Are drones the future of close pass operations? Police in Canada to use drones as part of attempt to clamp down on dangerous driving around cyclists

5 June 2024, 08:16

A lifetime of cycling can lead to less knee pain, new study finds

2023 Bike fit Jamie laser specialized
2023 Bike fit Jamie laser specialized (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2023 Bike fit Jamie laser specialized
2023 Bike fit Jamie laser specialized (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> A lifetime of cycling can lead to less knee pain, new study finds

5 June 2024, 08:16

Out of the ordinary STOLEN BIKE ALERT!

Here’s a blast from the past for some of you readers who’ve been around for a while, the return of STOLEN BIKE ALERT! It’s being brought out of the cupboard, slightly dusty, for this bike theft with a difference…

Stolen penny-farthing
Stolen penny-farthing (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Stolen penny-farthing
Stolen penny-farthing (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Fellow penny-farthing lover Jeremy Vine shared the appeal saying: “Important we get this back. Red rear tyre will make it difficult to fence.”

Yep, I’m sure it’ll be that red rear tyre that’s making it hard to shift…

Just to help narrow it down! Let’s find Robert’s Penny! pic.twitter.com/C9Tf9NxEaU

— Matt Shaw (@_MattShaw) June 4, 2024

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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30 thoughts on “Out of the ordinary STOLEN BIKE ALERT! Penny-farthing pinched from London cyclist; UAE Team Emirates rider goes off course during Dauphiné time trial; “We need physical barriers between motorists & cyclists” + more on the live blog”

  1. Patrick9-32
    June 5, 2024 at 10:19 am
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    We only need physical

    We only need physical barriers because so many terrible, aggressive dangerous drivers are allowed to be on the road. 

    Lets improve cycling infrastructure AND remove as many dangerous drivers as possible from the road through serious punishment for dangerous driving and regular retesting of all drivers. This would improve safety for pedestrians, cyclists and drivers, not just for cyclists. 

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    • Patrick9-32
      June 5, 2024 at 10:24 am
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      How do you remove those

      How do you remove those dangerous drivers from the road? 

      Hand over the first step of dash cam reporting not to the police but to the DVLA, they could then remove the license from any driver who did something which would have been grounds for failing a driving test and forward anything which falls into the insanely high bar of the careless and dangerous driving laws to the police for proscecution. This would make queues for driving tests longer but that is literally the deterrant needed to stop people doing stupid shit to save a few seconds. “I could pull out in front of this cyclist but if they have a camera I can’t drive for 5 months while I wait for a test slot.” would be enough to stop most of the stuff that puts our lives at risk every day. The malicious violent drivers and the people who drive without a license wouldn’t be stopped…but they are already not being stopped so the situation isn’t worse. 

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      • Hirsute
        June 5, 2024 at 12:09 pm
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        Collars for motorists if they

        Collars for motorists if they get too close or use the cycle lane.

        “The collars play a tune to redirect the cattle when they come close to a boundary, and then give them a gentle shock if they do not divert.”

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/crggxxk28g6o

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  2. Cugel
    June 5, 2024 at 10:26 am
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    Is it possible, in densely

    Is it possible, in densely-built cities, to make full-separation cycling facilities? Part of the reason that murder strips exist is that it isn’t – not to mention hugely expensive in the short stretches where it is. 

    Why is separation of cyclists from other road users seen as desirable?  Because many of the other road users are intrinsically lethal, due to both the nature of their transport machines and the nature of themselves when using them (and sometiomes when not using them but just walking about).

    It isn’t ever going to be a practical solution to build fully separate cycling (or walking) infrastructure for every possible journey. The cost would be gigantic; the need to make vast amounts of compulsary purchases to tarmac or pave a complete inhibitor of the very idea.

    What to do, then?

    There are two basic solutions: ban the vulnerable from existing urban roadways (a la motorways) or ban the dangerous machines and drivers who make others vulnerable.

    I’m for the latter. Motorised vehicles of vast weight and speed driven by any old human are not just killing and maiming millions worldwide per year but poisoning everywhere they go. They’re a major deleterious factor in a large range of current damages and ills around the planet.

    Most will poh-pooh the idea that cars et al can be done away with. That’s just their lack of imagination, really. 

    It’s probably going to happen fairly soon all by itself. The problem is that cyclists, pedestrians, most humans and most other living organisms are likely to be done away with too. One major do-away-with-’em factor will be motorised transport – until it all disappears up its own fundamental orifice.

     

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    • hawkinspeter
      June 5, 2024 at 10:35 am
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      Cugel wrote:

      Is it possible, in densely-built cities, to make full-separation cycling facilities? Part of the reason that murder strips exist is that it isn’t – not to mention hugely expensive in the short stretches where it is.

      — Cugel

      Yes it most certainly is possible. Where the roads are narrow, it’s a simple case of making them one-way for motorised traffic.

      I would argue that it’s far more expensive to not have separated cycling facilities as that impacts the health of the population (more sedentary and effects of tyre/exhaust pollution).

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      • Rendel Harris
        June 5, 2024 at 11:47 am
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        I would argue that it’s far more expensive to not have separated cycling facilities as that impacts the health of the population (more sedentary and effects of tyre/exhaust pollution).

        — hawkinspeter

        Netherlands spends €500 million a year on cycling infrastructure and gets €18 billion of benefit in return in terms of reduced cost to their health service, reductions in workplace lateness and absenteeism and so on. €36 back for every €1 spent and yet we are told that it’s not practical/cost-effective to do the same in the UK.

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        • hawkinspeter
          June 5, 2024 at 1:10 pm
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          Rendel Harris wrote:

          Netherlands spends €500 million a year on cycling infrastructure and gets €18 billion of benefit in return in terms of reduced cost to their health service, reductions in workplace lateness and absenteeism and so on. €36 back for every €1 spent and yet we are told that it’s not practical/cost-effective to do the same in the UK.

          — Rendel Harris

          It is a little known fact that the Dutch pioneered genetic engineering. Back in the 80s they had genetically engineered a strain of grain that ended up making musical tones when the wind blew across it. They trademarked it as Holland Oats.

          The United Nations refused to recognize the trade mark, saying “I can’t go for that, no can do.”

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          • Rendel Harris
            June 5, 2024 at 1:19 pm
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            It is a little known fact that the Dutch pioneered genetic engineering. Back in the 80s they had genetically engineered a strain of grain that ended up making musical tones when the wind blew across it. They trademarked it as Holland Oats.

            The United Nations refused to recognize the trade mark, saying “I can’t go for that, no can do.”

            — hawkinspeter

            Say It Isn’t So? Could that not be Just Your Imagination? Ah well, Who Said the World Was Fair?

    • Pub bike
      June 5, 2024 at 11:03 am
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      In Richmond Park in South

      In Richmond Park in South West London parts of the park are closed to unauthorised vehicles with more parts closed at weekends.  In the closed sections authorised vehicles are expected to drive at 10mph with hazard warning lights flashing*.  

      Similar restrictions could/should be applied to roads where the roads are too narrow for a car to pass a cyclist either because of adjacent buildings or parked cars.

      Ultimately cars are going to have to have power-to-weight ratio limits (as was done for motorcyclists decades ago) and location-based speed restrictions that also activate warning lights and other safety devices.

      Given how difficult it is to get drivers to obey 20mph (and any other) speed restrictions I don’t see this happening for a very long time, but how else to curb the enormous number of road casualties every year?

      * few obey this regulation however

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      • Rendel Harris
        June 5, 2024 at 1:27 pm
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        Pub bike wrote:

        In Richmond Park in South West London parts of the park are closed to unauthorised vehicles with more parts closed at weekends.  In the closed sections authorised vehicles are expected to drive at 10mph with hazard warning lights flashing*. 

        * few obey this regulation however

        — Pub bike

        I agree most of the permitted vehicles don’t follow this rule (parents of children at the Royal Ballet School in their SUVs are particularly bad) but I was riding there on Sunday and coming down Sawyers Hill towards Roehampton Gate there was a car following the rules to the letter, 10 mph and hazards on, and the behaviour of certain cyclists around it was ridiculous. They were approaching from behind at speeds in excess of 30 mph and skimming the car so close that I was worried that the slightest flinch from the driver would cause a potentially fatal accident. A couple of the people doing this were making “wanker” signs to the driver as they passed. They were doing all this into the face of heavy oncoming cyclist traffic going up the hill, with a number of those riders having to swerve out of the way for the big brave men (yes, they were all men) to come through. It was really disappointing to see a small minority behaving so dangerously and inconsiderately towards someone who was actually sticking to the rules that have been implemented to protect cyclists.

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    • chrisonabike
      June 5, 2024 at 2:04 pm
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      Cugel wrote:

      Is it possible, in densely-built cities, to make full-separation cycling facilities?

      — Cugel

      From: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2018/10/09/cycling-in-the-hague/

      Highest population density city in NL = The Hague (true in 2019 and AFAIK still the case)

      Apparently quite a bit less cycling than e.g. Amsterdam – it’s on the low side for NL.  The difference seems to be filled by greater public transport usage.  Apparently they’re making efforts to improve matters.

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  3. Hirsute
    June 5, 2024 at 1:11 pm
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    I feel this is an oxymoron

    I feel this is an oxymoron

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPT0-rdXAAEdYYd?format=jpg&name=small

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    • brooksby
      June 5, 2024 at 2:24 pm
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      Everyone knows that there is

      Everyone knows that there is no such thing as a tailwind, only a headwind 

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  4. Hirsute
    June 5, 2024 at 1:19 pm
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    More collective

    More collective responsibility

    Dave Hill: London’s cyclists must improve their attitude

    ” Go to Copenhagen, so often cited as an example London ought to follow, and be astonished by the civility of cyclists there compared to the casual rule-breaking and extreme sport mentality prevalent here. “

    Anyone been to Copenhagen and able to comment ?

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    • mitsky
      June 5, 2024 at 1:30 pm
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      Thanks for that link.

      Thanks for that link.
      A very amusing read. 😀

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    • hawkinspeter
      June 5, 2024 at 1:36 pm
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      Hirsute wrote:

      More collective responsibility

      Dave Hill: London’s cyclists must improve their attitude

      ” Go to Copenhagen, so often cited as an example London ought to follow, and be astonished by the civility of cyclists there compared to the casual rule-breaking and extreme sport mentality prevalent here. “

      Anyone been to Copenhagen and able to comment ?

      — Hirsute

      I have. It’s notable that red lights are held in much greater regard over there (including amongst pedestrians) which may have something to do with their two-phase left turns and the sheer amount of traffic using the separated infrastructure (not as much opportunity to misbehave if you’re travelling in a large group of cyclists). I did notice quite a number of cyclists/scooterists using their mobile phones whilst travelling which I believe is illegal over there, so I don’t think they’re necessarily any more well behaved than people over here.

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      • chrisonabike
        June 5, 2024 at 1:54 pm
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        Must pay it a visit.

        Must pay it a visit.

        This chimes with my (brief, now old) observations in e.g. NL.  Actually while some rules seem more scrupulously observed if you look there’s plenty of lawbreaking, not just of the “technical” kind.

        Yes, people do differ a bit in their general attitude to compliance with authority.  But they definitely vary around specific rules. (And not just in places where the policing’s such that if you do it, you’d be very lucky to be able to do it again…)

        I think the UK’s unexamined ideal of Good Cyclists (if they exist) confuses things.  We’ve probably all internalised it.  So Good Cyclists are like cycle-monks – they scrupulously keep all the “rules”, written and customary, and are highly skilled riders who are somehow far more considerate than the mass of the walking, driving public.  (We all know what Bad Cyclists are…)

        Noting that in the UK even in places where there is a “lot of cycling” (a few places in London) I’m not sure it’s full “mass cycling” yet (though it’s encouraging).  So there’s still probably a skew away from the normal spread of the population (in terms of age, socioeconomic categories etc.)  That also goes for the one place where there may be sufficient cyclists to count – Cambridge.

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      • I love my bike
        June 5, 2024 at 2:18 pm
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        The infrastructure is also

        The infrastructure is also designed for cyclists, so probably much less ‘need’ to break the rules to make steady progress?

        In UK many/most signal controlled junctions don’t sense cycles, so what is one to do if there are no motor vehicles? Also no green waves etc etc.

        Also, if there was no separated infrastructure in NL DK cities, motor traffic would be swamped & grind to a halt.

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    • Mr Hoopdriver
      June 5, 2024 at 2:18 pm
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      “The London cycling

      “The London cycling demographic contains heavy over-representation of white males from higher-income households.”

      Couldn’t the same be said for cars ?

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      • marmotte27
        June 5, 2024 at 4:19 pm
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        Mr Hoopdriver wrote:

        “The London cycling demographic contains heavy over-representation of white males from higher-income households.”

        Couldn’t the same be said for cars ?

        — Mr Hoopdriver

        This fact is in itself revealing of the discriminating nature of motor dominated road traffic, it largely excludes all sorts of “weaker” demographics, children, the elderly, women… Not that the author of that piece would recognise that, given that his aim, after a few paragraphs where he pretends to be really interested in cycling, is to disparage cyclists.

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  5. gad905@gmail.com
    June 5, 2024 at 1:38 pm
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    The Sagan advert is actually
    The Sagan advert is actually for Zlaty Bazant 0.0% Radler (“cycling beer”, basically a wheat beer shandy that’s supposedly an isotonic), so pretty appropriate actually.

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  6. brooksby
    June 5, 2024 at 2:35 pm
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    https://metro.co.uk/2024/06

    Seven children seriously hurt after car crashes into cyclists in holiday hotspot

    At least seven children have been seriously injured after a motorist smashed into a group of leisurely cyclists at a French holiday hotspot this morning.

    Three of the 12-strong group are in critical condition after the 83-year-old driver ploughed into the group as they cycled in single file along Avenue de Coligny in La Rochelle, Western France.

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    • mitsky
      June 6, 2024 at 7:54 am
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      Interesting to read the (as

      Interesting to read the (as usual, badly written) headline state “car crashes into” only to be followed by “a motorist smashed into”…

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  7. mitsky
    June 5, 2024 at 3:26 pm
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    “Man (on electric motobrike)

    “Man (on electric motobrike) admits snatching 24 phones in an hour…
    Stringer also admitted dangerous driving and driving without insurance.”

    Will be interesting to see what sentence it gets.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd116nk2p30o

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  8. mitsky
    June 5, 2024 at 3:58 pm
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    “Ban fossil fuel ads to save

    “Ban fossil fuel ads to save climate, says UN chief”

    Does this mean British Cycling has to drop Shell?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22vl99vwro

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    • wycombewheeler
      June 6, 2024 at 8:55 am
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      mitsky wrote:

      “Ban fossil fuel ads to save climate, says UN chief”

      Does this mean British Cycling has to drop Shell?

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22vl99vwro

      — mitsky

      there is no has to because the UN is suggesting banning advertising it hasn’t yet been banned (nor is it likely to).

      Personally I can’t see how banning fossil fuel ads achieves anything. People Aren’t weighing up travelling by train or travelling by car before being swayed by a shell advert and choosing to drive.

      People are using fossil fuels for their convenience, so advertising is about increasing market share. I don’t believe the advertising creates any desire to use more petrol or deisel in a way that is comparable to advertising alcohol or smoking.

      The most pressing concern with fossil fuels is to stop all new licences for new wells and mines, let the price rise due to supply/demand and leave market forces to drive the move away from carbon fuels as they become more expensive than renewables and are left only for those uses which cannot be decarbonised.

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  9. brooksby
    June 5, 2024 at 4:01 pm
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    https://www.bristol247.com

    https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/fiasco-festival-way-closed-diversion-route-criticised/

    The stretch of Festival Way next to the White City allotments – a much-used walking and cycling path between the city centre and Ashton Court – is now shut until January 2025 in order to facilitate the building of new homes by Vistry Group.

    But the closure and the diversion put in place has been called a “fiasco”, with Bristol’s new transport boss, Green councillor Ed Plowden, taking personal responsibilty to improve the situation “and to try to make sure something like this doesn’t get signed off again”.

    and

    Sustrans’ founder John Grimshaw has suggested his own diversion route, saying that the current diversion “is not a cycling diversion if you are forced to walk along a narrow pavement”

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  10. ktache
    June 5, 2024 at 7:55 pm
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    I must say that I like the

    I must say that I like the cut of Robert’s jib and hope he gets his bike back.

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    • Cyclo1964
      June 6, 2024 at 7:53 am
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      Totally agree looks a very

      Totally agree looks a very cool dude ! 

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  11. john_smith
    June 5, 2024 at 10:25 pm
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    Nice crunch from Politt’s

    Nice crunch from Politt’s gears.

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Tango and Cash: Can the all new Orange Phase e-MTB live up to its price tag?
UK brand Orange has become one of the latest to jump on the Avinox hype train. Despite the high price, Andi reckons the all new Phase could be a winner based on his first ride review
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Shimano unveils updated Deore groupset promising better durability and shifting under load, plus refined braking power
Shimano unveils updated Deore groupset promising better durability and shifting under load, plus refined braking power
Shimano brings its Deore mechanical family to the modern age, promising a host of improvements and refined performance
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Bell’s three-quarter helmet, a dynamo light and a back protector designed to replace backpack: We check out the Bell 3Qtr Air and more!
Bell’s three-quarter helmet, a dynamo light and a back protector designed to replace backpack: We check out the Bell 3Qtr Air and more!
Your weekly fill of Five Cool Things, and the best stories of the week
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Anti-pedal kickback devices may just be a sticky plaster slapped onto high-engagement freehubs
Anti-pedal kickback devices may just be a sticky plaster slapped onto high-engagement freehubs
Devices designed to reduce pedal kickback are all of the rage right now, but Liam reckons they're merely fixing a negative biproduct of modern freehubs
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Bombtrack Hook gravel bike
Bombtrack Hook gravel bike
Solid tourer or commuter, but narrow wheels and slightly heavy, uninvolving ride may disappoint
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Is Avinox’s super powerful motor too much for gravel? The Megamo Along e-gravel bike boasts the drive system everyone is talking about, plus clearance for 50mm tyres
Is Avinox’s super powerful motor too much for gravel? The Megamo Along e-gravel bike boasts the drive system everyone is talking about, plus clearance for 50mm tyres
Megamo has brought the very latest Avinox drive systems to gravel with its new Along e-gravel bike. But might this be too much for humbler gravel riding?
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I was hit by an illegal e-biker who ran a red light. Tougher regulation can’t come soon enough
I was hit by an illegal e-biker who ran a red light. Tougher regulation can’t come soon enough
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Free update for Yamaha e-bikes, Lime increases fleet for US footie fans, Voi weighs in on London parking debates + more
Free update for Yamaha e-bikes, Lime increases fleet for US footie fans, Voi weighs in on London parking debates + more
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Barcelona to ban private bike share schemes from 2027, as mayor slams e-bike parking “mess”
Barcelona to ban private bike share schemes from 2027, as mayor slams e-bike parking “mess”
The decision to expel the likes of Lime and Voi from the Catalan capital, which is set to host the start of this year’s Tour de France, comes as Barcelona expands its public Bicing service – which is not available to tourists
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Megamo launches dedicated e-road bike powered by super-powerful Avinox motor
Megamo launches dedicated e-road bike powered by super-powerful Avinox motor
The new Megamo Upon is designed from the ground up as an e-road bike, pairing a carbon frame and integrated 600Wh battery with Avinox’s powerful M2S motor system
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“Most cargo bikes are built to haul stuff. Levo 4 X is built to haul ass”: The Specialized Levo 4 X goes bikepacking
“Most cargo bikes are built to haul stuff. Levo 4 X is built to haul ass”: The Specialized Levo 4 X goes bikepacking
If there's not already enough versions of Specialized's Levo 4 around, the brand has unveiled another and it's primed for bikepacking adventures and yes, it's a Levo 4 but with racks
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E-bike operators including Lime and Forest slapped with £210,000 in fines for sloppy parking, plus Mercian is making an e-bike, Bosch launches certification system + more
E-bike operators including Lime and Forest slapped with £210,000 in fines for sloppy parking, plus Mercian is making an e-bike, Bosch launches certification system + more
We've heavy fines for Lime and Forest, but a lighter bike from Tenways for you in this week's round-up of all things e-bike
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“A serious risk of injuries”: recall for Specialized Turbo Como SL e-bikes announced in the UK due to failing fork steerer tubes – months after US recall notice
“A serious risk of injuries”: recall for Specialized Turbo Como SL e-bikes announced in the UK due to failing fork steerer tubes – months after US recall notice
The Office for Product Safety and Standards says affected Turbo Como SL bikes pose a serious injury risk after a fault was identified that could cause the fork to fail; Specialized first announced a problem in January
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The next big thing in bike manufacturing? Flit claims adhesive bonding helped it to make a lighter and tighter folding e-bike
The next big thing in bike manufacturing? Flit claims adhesive bonding helped it to make a lighter and tighter folding e-bike
Flit has unveiled what it claims is the first folding e-bike to use adhesive bonding rather than traditional welds. So, is the future of bike building looking stickier? Flit's managing director certainly thinks so
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eburtthebike 5 minutes ago

@chrisonabike HS2 was merely the biggest in a long line of transport investment failures, just the most spectacular. It was an ego project which never had an economic case, as all the independent analyses showed, but it still went ahead. Just imagine what kind of cycle network we'd have if that £100bn had been used for cycling.

in: “Bad policy as well as bad politics”: Wes Streeting slams “extraordinary” timing of £4.5bn cycling and walking investment after defence secretary’s resignation over funding
eburtthebike 8 minutes ago

@mitsky "I can’t remember the figures, but I believe there is a significant return on investment when active travel is well funded and good infrastructure is put in place." Generally taken to be 20:1, and even the Ministry for cars says it's about 5:1, so way in excess of any other transport investment, and any government spending.

in: “Bad policy as well as bad politics”: Wes Streeting slams “extraordinary” timing of £4.5bn cycling and walking investment after defence secretary’s resignation over funding
ktache 10 minutes ago

But what we can say is that Gove was crossing on a red man and really wasn't paying attention.

in: “You’re on a red light, you idiot!” Cyclist almost crashes into Michael Gove on crossing, slamming politician for “ignoring Highway Code”; Driver with “observational skills of garden gnome” doors cyclist; Pidcock Tour plans changed + more on the live blog
quiff 13 minutes ago

I've just spent far too long pondering whether "turn right (except cycles)" and "no left turn (except cycles)" both amount to the same thing in this case, which probably reinforces your point. To further confuse things, it looks like those no entry signs across the road are waiting to unveil "except cycles" modifiers.

in: “You’re on a red light, you idiot!” Cyclist almost crashes into Michael Gove on crossing, slamming politician for “ignoring Highway Code”; Driver with “observational skills of garden gnome” doors cyclist; Pidcock Tour plans changed + more on the live blog
MaxiMinimalist 31 minutes ago

@tomlew All-rounder is new buzz word. Like gravel three/five years ago. Each brand must have one in their catalogue even if they don't sell.

in: Bianchi’s updated Specialissima is its lightest ever, with aero gains designed to make it “the ultimate all-rounder”
rjfrussell 39 minutes ago

never tried, but would a group voice chat like disqus or even whatsapp, and a single ear bud not provide full functionality?

in: Milo Action Communicator
mdavidford 48 minutes ago

The signage there is pretty confusing - it's not immediately obvious which sign the 'Except cycles' is meant to be modifying - the turn right, or the no left turn. On closer inspection, it turns out that they both effectively mean the same thing, because the route straight ahead is no entry, but that sign is across the road, and in itself is slightly obscured by potential confusion with the adjacent tube station signs. Any signage that requires you to look in multiple places and solve a logic problem to interpret it isn't really doing its job as a sign very well.

in: “You’re on a red light, you idiot!” Cyclist almost crashes into Michael Gove on crossing, slamming politician for “ignoring Highway Code”; Driver with “observational skills of garden gnome” doors cyclist; Pidcock Tour plans changed + more on the live blog
momove 58 minutes ago

@ktache Good grief, that is bad "reporting". It basically starts with "a study by a consultancy, which we're not going to link to..." And then moves on to talk about "cyclist casualty rate" which in Reading is 29% and in The City is 48%, making it the most dangerous place for cyclists, apparently. As the study isn't provided, I'm left to assume they haven't controlled for the number of cycle journeys, with the earlier item on road.cc showing the number of cycle journeys are more or less even with car journeys in The City.

in: “You’re on a red light, you idiot!” Cyclist almost crashes into Michael Gove on crossing, slamming politician for “ignoring Highway Code”; Driver with “observational skills of garden gnome” doors cyclist; Pidcock Tour plans changed + more on the live blog
quiff 1 hour ago

I won't be visiting X to check, but I hope someone pointed out to "Somerset-based Conservative councillor Lucy Trimnell" that what the sign actually clearly says is "no left turn - except cycles".

in: “You’re on a red light, you idiot!” Cyclist almost crashes into Michael Gove on crossing, slamming politician for “ignoring Highway Code”; Driver with “observational skills of garden gnome” doors cyclist; Pidcock Tour plans changed + more on the live blog
Pub bike 1 hour ago

@quiff Not all 3D plates are legal. Obviously I was referring to the illegal non-compliant ones. That wasn't the main point of my post though was it?

in: “You’re on a red light, you idiot!” Cyclist almost crashes into Michael Gove on crossing, slamming politician for “ignoring Highway Code”; Driver with “observational skills of garden gnome” doors cyclist; Pidcock Tour plans changed + more on the live blog

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