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Bristol pedestrians to have immediate priority over vehicles at traffic light crossings

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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-pedestrians-immediate-priority-over-10030026

Pedestrians are set to be given priority over vehicles at traffic light crossings across Bristol, with the amber stop light for cars appearing immediately after someone presses the wait button.

City councillors are being advised to approve plans to re-programme all 100 pelican, puffin and toucan crossings so that if no one has approached one for 30 seconds, traffic is stopped and the green man appears the moment someone pushes the button.

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Dnnnnnn | 3 hours ago
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This is going to make some people cross.

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mdavidford replied to Dnnnnnn | 5 sec ago
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This is going to give cross people something else to hang their crossness on.

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chrisonabike | 4 hours ago
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What is the current behaviour (I don't know how these commonly work in the UK - I do know that often you seem to have to wait for some time...)?

I could imagine we have either "unless drivers have had at least x seconds of green, do not change signals" or "if a certain volume of traffic is detected, don't change signals (unless y seconds have passed)".

Conflicts over pedestrian crossing signals often make me wonder if the question should be "why do we need a signalised crossing here anywa?" Often the answer seems to be because "we are trying to combine 'flow' for motor vehicles with lots of pedestrians e.g. run a traffic artery / distributor through somewhere we also want to be a 'place' "  So effectively the issue is we've allowed too many motor vehicles through here / set speed limits too high / the road is too wide.

This is very common in the UK, due to the way our roads have "evolved" and we expect them to be multifunctional.  But that ends up being inefficient for drivers and unpleasant for pedestrians.  As opposed to the kind of organisation seen eg. here.

Of course, that's historic network-level problems and those can be several magnitudes more than 20K to fix!

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Bmblbzzz | 4 hours ago
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This is such a no-brainer it really should be standard practice worldwide. But as the world is, I wonder which will be seen first; this or a train station in Portishead?

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slc replied to Bmblbzzz | 2 hours ago
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Why stop there ? How about the crossings remaining green for pedestrians until a vehicle pulls up at the lights and waits 30 seconds? I guess it would be annoying on the bike but I reckon I could cope.

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chrisonabike replied to slc | 1 hour ago
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"Continuous Green for cyclists / active travel" signals exist in NL.  Not common yet, but e.g. Delft has someHaarlem already a good job using smart lights on its intersections but perhaps they could even do better with those?

Your idea sounds similar to another actual intervention - but this one is for making a particular route accessible to those who need but totally unappealing as a short-cut for drivers.  See here (there are some other good ideas as well).

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