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Highway Code changes, riding two abreast, road tax & all the greatest anti-cycling hits — “depressing” reaction to “vile” Countryfile section on cycle safety; Van der Poel’s pizza; TT wheelies; Bike lane car park; Post-Giro blues + more on the live blog

The Giro is over…(how long until the Tour de France?)…Dan Alexander is back for the first of three road.cc live blogs this week before the long weekend…(thanks, Queenie!)
  • by Dan Alexander
Mon, May 30, 2022 08:10
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SUMMARY

  • Wheelieing a TT bike? That's a job for Mathieu...
  • Mathieu van der Poel celebrates finishing Giro d'Italia by eating pineapple pizza (and wheelieing his TT bike)
  • Post-Giro Monday...
  • "Three years later and RideLondon is back": Plenty of RideLondon positivity
  • Dan Martin out of retirement...according to this bookie
  • Fancy getting paid to ride your bike?
  • Yodel delivers almost half a million parcels by bike in the last six months
  • When he's not eating pineapple pizza and popping wheelies on a TT bike...
  • Why cyclists don't use the cycle lane #2,461
  • Post-race recovery done right 🍻
  • Rapha: We believe that all athletes should have the opportunity to race
  • It was worth a try
  • Peak road.cc
  • Reader reaction
  • Highway Code changes, riding two abreast, road tax & all the greatest anti-cycling hits — "depressing" reaction to "vile" Countryfile section on cycle safety
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30 May 2022, 08:10

Wheelieing a TT bike? That's a job for Mathieu...

If I tried this I would 100% break my neck 😬 gotta love the man and what he brings to cycling #Giro105 pic.twitter.com/yn01gHYBSf

— Peter. ✊🏻✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿🚴‍♂️ (@PBXscribes) May 29, 2022

As if the attacking racing and pineapple passion wasn’t entertaining enough…Mathieu van der Poel is also the first rider I’ve seen pull off a wheelie (kind of) on a TT bike…protect this man at all costs… 

30 May 2022, 08:10

Mathieu van der Poel celebrates finishing Giro d'Italia by eating pineapple pizza (and wheelieing his TT bike)

He’s done it again…

Heerlijk pic.twitter.com/HEz9YFUbTf

— Mathieu Van der Poel (@mathieuvdpoel) May 29, 2022

Captioned ‘lovely’, Mathieu took to Twitter to complete the Giro meme experience, giving the non-Italians what they’d waited all week to see — a robotic Dutchman committing a cuisine faux pas. It’s testament to how bloody brilliant Van der Poel is at riding bikes that an act even this heinous and inflammatory (almost) gets a pass…

The Giro started with ‘spaghettigate’ (the worst of the three crimes if you ask me) — ketchup sprayed liberally over plain pasta…Then, on the second rest day, a picture of a margherita pizza with a pineapple suggestive caption sent the cycling world into meltdown…and prompted the Italian fans to chase him up the final week’s climbs brandishing pineapples…

It has finally happened. pic.twitter.com/oACBAUrQYf

— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) May 27, 2022

In the midst of the madness it appeared the tropical fruit had special powers: Dries De Bondt, Van der Poel’s teammate, was handed one during stage 17…he won the next day…

Anyway, after a final week where the pineapple action was almost always more entertaining than the GC, Van der Poel delivered his grand finale…finishing third in the time trial and getting his snap…

Mathieu van der Poel pineapple pizza (Image: Mathieu van der Poel/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mathieu van der Poel pineapple pizza (Image: Mathieu van der Poel/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The Giro d’Italia social media team wagered the peloton’s great entertainer that he wouldn’t win a stage during the third week. Despite his heroic stage 17 efforts, and late dash in the TT, the 27-year-old could not find a second Giro stage win…and yet…

🍍 @mathieuvdpoel, you attacked so hard that, eventhough you didn’t get a second stage win, you won anyways and everyone who loves cycling won with you. We owe it to you (and let’s hope for the best). #Giro @AlpecinFenix pic.twitter.com/pAXOwqExFp

— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 29, 2022 

Who’s the real winner? 

30 May 2022, 08:10

Post-Giro Monday...

Post Giro day + Monday pic.twitter.com/D24yUD6ugC

— Cycling out of context (@OutOfCycling) May 30, 2022

How long until the Tour de France?

Tour de France

30 May 2022, 08:10

"Three years later and RideLondon is back": Plenty of RideLondon positivity

VAMOS!

Three years later and RideLondon is back 😍#RideLondon #WeRide pic.twitter.com/Q5eHnULDe1

— RideLondon (@RideLondon) May 29, 2022

We suspect there could be some bingo and TalkRADIO frothing about RideLondon appearing on the blog later…soooo, in the meantime let’s concentrate on the positives…

A few years ago, my girlfriend won her @CanyonUK bike from @roadcc. Today, she’s used it for her first century at #RideLondon. Thanks all! She might not have done it without you. pic.twitter.com/ge8pUlOYvB

— Mike Lawson (@mikelawson92) May 29, 2022

A lot of fun today on #RideLondon Big thank you to everyone who cheered us all on. I really made a difference. Essex was beautiful in the sunshine too. 🚲😎🤙✔️ pic.twitter.com/ZFtrRKGCt0

— James Phelps (@James_Phelps) May 29, 2022

Set off bright and early from central London today for the #RideLondon 100 mile event.

Excited to pass through Woodford as Redbridge hosts RideLondon for the first time.

Good luck to everyone taking part today! pic.twitter.com/VbXIzK96Cr

— Jas Athwal (@Jas_Athwal) May 29, 2022

It wasn’t just about the sportive either. The final stage of the RideLondon Classique, the women’s WorldTour event, was won by Lorena Wiebes who made it a hat-trick after winning stages one and two as well…

> RideLondon-Essex riders halted for 30 minutes because of an incident

And beforehand, on the same central London closed roads, thousands of riders enjoyed the car-free city during the RideLondon FreeCycle…

FreeCycle Sunday > anything else 😍#RideLondon pic.twitter.com/wd3Uk988rz

— RideLondon (@RideLondon) May 29, 2022

30 May 2022, 08:10

Dan Martin out of retirement...according to this bookie

I like those odds

Clearly following the form guide. pic.twitter.com/02FHW4G4h4

— Dan Martin (@DanMartin86) May 30, 2022

“Money back as a free bet if your rider has been retired for seven months and has no chance of even being on the startline…”

30 May 2022, 08:10

Fancy getting paid to ride your bike?

Gloucestershire County Council has unveiled an active travel scheme which will see cyclists offered cash rewards for playing a mobile game which will reportedly help improve local cycling infrastructure.

The council has teamed up with Finnish software start-up Crowdsorsa to collect crowdsourced data of the county’s routes to survey the condition of infrastructure.

Cyclists are invited to record footage of cycle routes shown on the app (there are over 250 miles) which are covered with virtual fruit and berries. Each mile of the cycle route has around £2.50 worth of objects to collect.

Two abreast - cheltenham flyer tori and skardy 2
Two abreast - cheltenham flyer tori and skardy 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Two abreast - cheltenham flyer tori and skardy 2
Two abreast – cheltenham flyer tori and skardy 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“The game encourages players to explore the county and keep fit, while also earning money in the process,” a council spokesperson said.

“In a UK first, the council has teamed up with Finnish software startup, Crowdsorsa, to provide a crowdsourced data collection event to survey the condition of the county’s cycling infrastructure.

“The mobile game would allow riders to collect virtual fruits and berries worth money. These are collected by recording video footage of the cycle routes ridden.

“The survey will start at 10am on Thursday, 2 June, and anyone with a smartphone, bike and phone holder can take part.

“The game shows users over 250 miles of cycling routes on a map, all covered with virtual fruit and berries, and the more of these they collect – the more money they earn. Each mile of cycle route has around £2.50 worth of objects to collect.

“Anyone with a smartphone, a bike and a phone holder can take part in the survey.

“The Crowdsorsa mobile game can be downloaded for free from the App Store and Google Play. Within the app, there is a mission created for the Gloucestershire survey, which also features instructions for users.”

30 May 2022, 08:10

Yodel delivers almost half a million parcels by bike in the last six months

 
 
 
 
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 UK courier Yodel has delivered 492,000 parcels by bike over the last six months, the company has revealed. The news, reported by 365 Retail, means Yodel has surpassed its previous year’s record of 290,000, and hopes to hit 750,000 by the end of its financial year in July.

Yodel partnered with Urb-it, allowing couriers to deliver parcels via its e-cargo bike fleet, a partnership which was extended following a trial period and has expanded from just London to Glasgow, Bristol and Manchester as well. Birmingham, Liverpool and Edinburgh are touted as the scheme’s next locations.

“We’re extremely proud of what we have achieved with meeting key targets in our drive to deliver a more sustainable service for the future,” Mike Hancox, Yodel CEO said.

30 May 2022, 08:10

When he's not eating pineapple pizza and popping wheelies on a TT bike...

Legend status fully secured.

Context – this is in the middle of an alpine climb. What a Giro. What a champion for the people 🤌#GrazieMathieu #GrazieMVDP#GiroHero #MVDPstyle #MVDP #mathieuvanderpoel #alpecinfenix #Giro #GiroDItalia #Giro105 #Giro2022

Photo: @SarettaC_Photo pic.twitter.com/aw85KLY0MC

— Atlanta Rouleur Collection (@AtlantaRouleur) May 29, 2022

My Monday morning brain initially thought Mathieu might be offering a quick mid-stage headset adjustment…not simply signing an autograph…

Tell me you’re a cyclist without telling me you’re a cyclist…

30 May 2022, 08:10

Why cyclists don't use the cycle lane #2,461

The why cyclists don’t use the cycle lane series has been running for years…and shows no sign of slowing down. Today’s edition comes from Brighton…

Nothing says we’re serious about active travel more than building a big safe bike lane along the beach and then letting it be used as a car park at weekends. pic.twitter.com/kajGviaHj1

— Finn Hopson (@FinnHop) May 29, 2022

Adding to the “nothing says we’re serious about active travel” theme, Finn said: “See also, trying to look serious about tackling climate change while sanctioning events that encourage people to drive old polluting cars to the beach just for fun whilst deliberately preventing people getting around in healthier ways.”

> Monday moaning: Why don’t cyclists use cycle lanes?

Time for some more why cyclists don’t use the cycle lane specials…

Another bad bike lane
Another bad bike lane (Image Credit: @geoffallard/Twitter)
Another bad bike lane
Another bad bike lane (Image Credit: @geoffallard/Twitter)

> “This has UK written all over it”: Another why cyclists don’t use the cycle lane classic

A12 cycle lane (via Georgina Wilcox/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
A12 cycle lane (via Georgina Wilcox/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> The ‘why cyclists don’t use cycle lanes’ cycle lane

Cycle lane portaloo (Al Ó Baoighill Facebook)
Cycle lane portaloo (Al Ó Baoighill Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cycle lane portaloo (Al Ó Baoighill Facebook)
Cycle lane portaloo (Al Ó Baoighill Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Plop-up cycle lane

30 May 2022, 08:10

Post-race recovery done right 🍻

After 3 hard weeks recovery is really important @giroditalia pic.twitter.com/z0Olm15s2q

— Nico Denz (@NicoDenz) May 29, 2022

30 May 2022, 08:10

Rapha: We believe that all athletes should have the opportunity to race

Transgender cyclist Emily Bridges insists she has no advantage over rivals

“We’re the current punching bag in the culture war,” says 21 year old in interview with DIVA magazinehttps://t.co/hmHRBvf9OD #cycling pic.twitter.com/ejzbaiTM2u

— road.cc (@roadcc) May 26, 2022

Rapha has joined the conversation under our link to the story about Emily Bridges’ DIVA magazine interview… 

Trans rights are human rights. We believe that all athletes should have the opportunity to race. We don’t have all the answers to how this should be actioned but we’re standing by our athletes and supporting them.

— Rapha (@rapha) May 30, 2022

30 May 2022, 08:10

It was worth a try

.@TrekSegafredo … Stopped by your mechanic’s bus yesterday in #London, cheekily asked for a service but apparently your guys were busy … 🙂 I got a ‘Chapeau!’ for my choice of bike, though 🙂 pic.twitter.com/WUncMiE5LK

— John O’Connell (@jdpoc) May 30, 2022

30 May 2022, 08:10

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Well, I don’t want to spoil anything, but boy do we have a story for you tomorrow morning…

Also would it be peak road.cc if it wasn’t all captured on Jeremy Vine’s 360-degree camera?

30 May 2022, 08:10

Reader reaction

Almost 24 years on this planet and I’ve just found out it’s a segue not a segway?! Next you’ll be telling me it’s not ‘see I to I’ or ‘ends meat’… Journalists aren’t as good as they used to be, are they? My own personal ramblings out the way, here’s what you’ve been saying about Countryfile’s chaotic cycling episode…

Odd piece wasn’t it, especially as @tomheapmedia would appear to be the most bike friendly presenter. 🤷‍♂️

— Jason Giller (@JasonGiller) May 30, 2022

so many lowlifes commenting so horrendously on an article about someones husband. father & son dying, no empathy or humanity. I hope that poor lady isn’t on twitter to see it all

— Susanne Reid (@SusanneReid68) May 30, 2022

30 May 2022, 08:10

Highway Code changes, riding two abreast, road tax & all the greatest anti-cycling hits — "depressing" reaction to "vile" Countryfile section on cycle safety

Strap yourselves in for this one… Countryfile did cycling last night, with the segment on the BBC One show since being described as “vile”, “disgraceful” and an “utter shitshow triggering anti-cycling hatred” by disgruntled viewers.

Conversely, the usual frothing section of social media reacted to the episode, which included an interview with the widow of a cyclist killed by a speeding driver, crying foul about January’s Highway Code changes, two abreast riding and all the other anti-cycling bingo favourites…

The comments about cyclists are every bit as depressing as you thought they might be. #countryfile

— Keeping my mask on. I stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦🕷️😷💙💚 (@alswifejacky) May 29, 2022

Warning: none of the following is particularly pretty…

First things first, let’s outline what was broadcast. Last night’s episode featured a ten-minute segment on cycle safety as “Tom Heap investigates the increase in cycling deaths on our rural roads”.

During the section he spoke with the widow of Anthony Satterthwaite — a cyclist killed in a collision with a driver speeding at 59mph on a 40mph country road (although presenter Heap narrated the incident as: “Anthony was hit by a car on a lane” before later outlining more details of the driver’s wrongdoing).

The driver got a suspended sentence and during a segue (thanks, hirsute) to the next part of the report, Heap noted Anthony was one of nearly 100 cyclists killed on Britain’s roads in 2018 before saying: “until the pandemic the number of cyclists killed on Britain’s roads had been falling, but with the lockdown came a biking boom, and more cyclists meant more deaths”.

“More cyclists mean more deaths”#countryfile Disgraceful sentence. Dangerous driving means more deaths !@Chris_Boardman @BBCCountryfile

— Don’t lie ! (@ironmatewife) May 29, 2022

The reporter then spoke to Dame Sarah Storey, Britain’s most successful Paralympian and recently announced Greater Manchester active travel commissioner, and after hearing her call for reduced speed limits and greater vigilance from drivers, asked: “let’s face it, cyclists can be occasionally dangerous and occasionally full of themselves as well, can’t they?”

Heap’s segment ended with driver vox pops in the Peak District, during which the Highway Code changes and two abreast riding were addressed in such glowing terms as “infuriating”, “crazy” and “aggravating”.

So, what did cyclists think of the segment?

A depressing watch…

— Binstedman 🚴🌱 (@binstedman) May 29, 2022

I’m trying to reflect on @BBCCountryfile cycling segment. @tomheapmedia basically got people on bikes killed tonight. Tom interviewed drivers and asked them how they felt about obeying the Highway Code!🤷‍♂️The underlying cyclist hatred Tom exhibited was vile. #countryfile

— Adam Reynolds (@awjre) May 29, 2022

And how about the usual suspects? Get your bingo cards ready…

You literally tweeting this after watching Countryfile and learning about the devastating impact the death of someone killed on a bicycle has. Unbelievable https://t.co/E97ZGU3jVW

— Rory McCarron (@CyclingLawLDN) May 29, 2022

Dame Sarah Storey on #countryfile saying 60mph on country roads is not appropriate. No, and neither is 10mph while stuck behind a bike

— 🥴 (@ohdomeafavour) May 29, 2022

#countryfile what a load of wallop. Maybe if cyclists actually decided to ride on quieter roads, not main driving routes and moved over so cars could pass (although most cyclists feel like they’re the only person on that road) then they wouldn’t get hit as much.

— Speaking The Truth (@Speakin01361423) May 29, 2022

Here’s an idea, stop riding your fucking bikes two and three abreast on narrow lanes. Arrogant twats #countryfile

— Carl Draper (@explodingwalrus) May 29, 2022

My head hurts… 

30 May 2022, 08:10

Bike at Bedtime: An Italian beauty from 1949, the Frejus Campionissimo

Bike at Bedtime: An Italian beauty from 1949, the Frejus Campionissimo

Currently Bike of the Month at the Upcycle bike cafe in the northern Italian city

30 May 2022, 08:10

We hate that everything is so expensive in cycling

We hate that everything is so expensive in cycling

When did bikes get so expensive and why have prices for everything from sportives to nutrition products gone up?

30 May 2022, 08:10

You (almost) couldn't make it up

Parked cars block cycle lane – while their owners ride static bikes in park

Parked cars block cycle lane – while their owners ride static bikes in park

Local resident says issue highlights lack of safe cycling provision in Edinburgh

30 May 2022, 08:10

Near Miss of the Day 775: Two videos highlight inconsistency in close pass enforcement

Near Miss of the Day 775: Two videos highlight inconsistency in close pass enforcement

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Gloucestershire

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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38 thoughts on “Highway Code changes, riding two abreast, road tax & all the greatest anti-cycling hits — “depressing” reaction to “vile” Countryfile section on cycle safety; Van der Poel’s pizza; TT wheelies; Bike lane car park; Post-Giro blues + more on the live blog”

  1. brooksby
    May 30, 2022 at 10:16 am
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    So did anyone notice if that

    So did anyone notice if that farm shop was open, the owners of which were complaining about Ride London a couple of weeks ago? 😉

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      May 30, 2022 at 11:04 am
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      Wrong ride. That is the ToC

      Wrong ride. That is the ToC one which is two weeks away. 

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      • brooksby
        May 30, 2022 at 11:19 am
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        Ooops! My mistake 

        Ooops! My mistake 

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  2. HarrogateSpa
    May 30, 2022 at 1:27 pm
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    Peak road.cc will be reached

    Peak road.cc will be reached when:

    1. Mathieu van der Poel makes an “Everesting” attempt in the Dutch Alps
    2. He doesn’t wear a helmet
    3. He refuels with pineapple pizza on the way up
    4. He is close-passed by a Near Miss of the Day driver just before the summit
    5. Unethical Dutch lawyer Nicolaas Vrijman says it’s all Mathieu’s fault

    Road.cc will then have to admit they will never truly be happy again, and close down.

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    • ktache
      May 30, 2022 at 2:02 pm
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      Riding with L shaped cranks

      Riding with L shaped cranks

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      • chrisonabike
        May 30, 2022 at 2:39 pm
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        Made by Shimano using a

        Made by Shimano using a clever weight-saving bonding method…

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      • captain_slog
        May 30, 2022 at 2:40 pm
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        Wearing Rapha. On a gravel

        Wearing Rapha. On a gravel bike. With one rim brake and one disc brake.

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  3. zeeridesbikes
    May 30, 2022 at 2:24 pm
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    Really great to see the

    Really great to see the locals cheering us on during RL yesterday. The atmosphere was good and I though it was really well organised. Route was a bit dull and the amount of littering was really disappointing. Other than that I really enjoyed it although won’t be signing up for 2023. 

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  4. bobbinogs
    May 30, 2022 at 2:43 pm
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    Just gotta love Rapha with

    Just gotta love Rapha with their shameless virtue-signalling. 

    • We support all atheletes…blah, blah, blah. 
    • Know how to get ex-blokes racing fairly against women without being unfair to the women? 
    • Err, nope! 
    • Thanks for your input
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    • mdavidford
      May 30, 2022 at 3:30 pm
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      bobbinogs wrote:

      Just gotta love Rapha with their shameless virtue-signalling.

      — bobbinogs

      That’s somewhat unfair. What the item above doesn’t show is that they were simply responding to someone who had specifically tagged them in to the thread.

      • We support all atheletes…blah, blah, blah. 
      • Know how to get ex-blokes racing fairly against women without being unfair to the women? 
      • Err, nope! 
      • Thanks for your input

      — bobbinogs

      Well it seems like a more honest and well-considered contribution than 99.99% of the ‘debate’ around this issue.

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    • sparrowlegs
      May 30, 2022 at 4:24 pm
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      To be fair to Rapha they just

      To be fair to Rapha they just say they are standing by their athletes and just saying they should be able to compete. How they are able to compete they don’t say.
      As long as that means it doesn’t impact womens sports then I agree with that. Emily should have the right to compete, how that can be done fairly to everyone is still to be decided. 

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  5. Hirsute
    May 30, 2022 at 3:37 pm
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    SEGUE

    SEGUE

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    • OnYerBike
      May 30, 2022 at 4:00 pm
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      I haven’t watched the show

      I haven’t watched the show but I like to imagine the presenter was riding a Segway(tm) around the locations of the incidents discussed whilst narrating the piece, perhaps to illustrate some of the dangers faced by vulnerable road users.

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      • Hirsute
        May 30, 2022 at 4:22 pm
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        That would be illegal unless

        That would be illegal unless on private land. They were on bikes though.

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  6. nniff
    May 30, 2022 at 3:39 pm
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    I switched the TV on last

    I switched the TV on last night and got “……..(big number) of cyclists die on our roads every year…”  I thought, “No.  …..(big number) of cyclists are killed on our roads every year”. That’s a different other thing, and so I pressed a button, which seems like a good call.  

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  7. tigersnapper
    May 30, 2022 at 4:31 pm
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    Seeing John O’Connell’s tweet

    Seeing John O’Connell’s tweet, I went up to London yesterday with the wife to tootle around on the FreeRide.  It was great to see so many people of all ages and abilities on their bikes.  I also noticed the team members of the parked up team buses stood clapping those of us chugging along past them which I thought was a real encouragement to keep people riding.

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  8. Oldfatgit
    May 30, 2022 at 4:45 pm
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    Reading comments that
    Reading comments that regularly appear on here make me so glad that I’m not on twitter
    There’s only so much piss to boil, and it would be gone in seconds.

    So, thank you, Road.cc for the unintended consequence of keeping me relatively healthy … and off Twitter

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    • PRSboy
      May 30, 2022 at 6:06 pm
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      Indeed. You couldn’t win. As

      Indeed. You couldn’t win. As Mark Twain once said “Don’t argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” 

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      • eburtthebike
        May 30, 2022 at 11:16 pm
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        PRSboy wrote:

        Indeed. You couldn’t win. As Mark Twain once said “Don’t argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” 

        — PRSboy

        Oh yes we will.

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  9. Awavey
    May 30, 2022 at 5:32 pm
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    post giro monday ?  why wait

    post giro monday ?  why wait till the TdF for your next pro cycling fix, theres only 7 days till the Women’s Tour.

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  10. eburtthebike
    May 30, 2022 at 6:17 pm
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    Well, having read some of the

    Well, having read some of the comments on here, I was fully expecting to burst a blood vessel while watching Country File, but it wasn’t that bad.  OK, it could have been a hell of a lot better and they made several mistakes e.g. the number of cyclists deaths supposedly falling before covid, and commenting that cycling groups thought that the problem is that country roads are “…narrow, with tight bends, no cycle lanes…”  I don’t know any cycling groups that think that, but fortunately Dame Sarah put him right that it’s the drivers.

    The introduction was spectacularly bad “Tom investigates why cycling on rural roads is dangerous.”  It isn’t; driving is dangerous.

    Then, about a new cycle route, there was “At a cost of £5m, it hasn’t come cheap.”  Just wait until they find out the cost of a motorway junction.

    Then they ask the ridiculous question “Will our cities continue to get the lion’s share?” 

    I’ve never heard of the group “More Than a Cyclist” so who are they, how many members do they have, do they claim to represent cyclists?

    Also, they would have been better advised to get a spokesperson from CUK instead of a racing cyclist from BC, good as Dame Sarah was.

    Every cyclist featured was, of course, wearing a helmet, but the presenters took them off when walking, so they clearly don’t know that the death rate of pedestrians is the same as cyclists for distance travelled.

    Overall, 5/10.

     

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    • Hirsute
      May 30, 2022 at 6:42 pm
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      Sustrans lady didn’t even
      Sustrans lady didn’t even wear it properly.

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    • IanMSpencer
      May 30, 2022 at 6:50 pm
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      More Than a Cyclist does not
      More Than a Cyclist does not seek to represent cyclists, rather their aim is a simple one, to persuade road users that cyclists are not anonymous obstacles but human beings. It was set up as a result of the death of a friend of hers who was driven through by a Range Rover with no plausible excuse.

      They are hoping to get organisations running large numbers of vehicles to carry posters reminding drivers that cyclists are first and foremost human beings.

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    • Awavey
      May 30, 2022 at 7:15 pm
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      tbf Dame Sarah has been

      tbf Dame Sarah has been active travel commissioner for South Yorkshire for the past 3 years, and is now active travel commisioner for Greater Manchester, Chris Bs old job,so shes not just a racing cyclist even if thats how they presented her.

      and I wasnt as annoyed about the segment, but maybe the Suffolk Punch bit afterwards lightened my mood, as I thought Id be watching it.

      but it was still the same nonsense we see all the time from MSM coverage of cycling the checkbox list of lycra, othering “serious cyclists”, the weird drivers anectdotes left unchallenged, incorrect stats, why cant we just all get along, presenter guy clearly not getting it and almost wipes out in the group ride I wouldnt be comfortable riding alongside him like that and hmm I wonder what Mr safe driver who slowed down with a cheery wave,actual view ahead of the cyclists was, maybe a big sign say “slow filming in progress” perhaps…cynical arent I, I guess I just expect to be disappointed now so cant really get that angry about it anymore.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        May 30, 2022 at 7:39 pm
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        Yep I did think that was a

        Yep I did think that was a poor representation of Sarah by Eburt although was that his impression because of the programme? She has even been on Op close Pass rides with Inspector Kev so like Boardman, seems to have developed more into a safety spokesman then some other ex-racers. 

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        • Awavey
          May 30, 2022 at 9:17 pm
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          well the average Countryfile

          well the average Countryfile viewer probably doesnt know any of that and if you are only going to be introduced as a 17 time gold medal winning paralympian, whilst wearing you world champion rainbow jersey, and Im sure there are sponsor reasons for that, but it doesnt exactly shout active travel commissioner being interviewed here.

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      • eburtthebike
        May 30, 2022 at 11:13 pm
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        Awavey wrote:

        tbf Dame Sarah has been active travel commissioner for South Yorkshire for the past 3 years, and is now active travel commisioner for Greater Manchester, Chris Bs old job,so shes not just a racing cyclist even if thats how they presented her.

        and I wasnt as annoyed about the segment, but maybe the Suffolk Punch bit afterwards lightened my mood, as I thought Id be watching it.

        but it was still the same nonsense we see all the time from MSM coverage of cycling the checkbox list of lycra, othering “serious cyclists”, the weird drivers anectdotes left unchallenged, incorrect stats, why cant we just all get along, presenter guy clearly not getting it and almost wipes out in the group ride I wouldnt be comfortable riding alongside him like that and hmm I wonder what Mr safe driver who slowed down with a cheery wave,actual view ahead of the cyclists was, maybe a big sign say “slow filming in progress” perhaps…cynical arent I, I guess I just expect to be disappointed now so cant really get that angry about it anymore.

        — Awavey

        I think I agreed with that, well, as much as I could decipher, anyway.

        https://www.grammarly.com/?q=punctuation&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=10520839432&utm_content=447678014637&utm_term=punctuation%20checker&matchtype=e&placement=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjw1tGUBhDXARIsAIJx01kQQ0r7isx61gkBfaE_e2bn9LTBNYmmaG56t0E7r-Pr6d0i1JJ9rMkaAlbIEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

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        • Awavey
          May 31, 2022 at 8:04 am
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          Now who’s doing the snarky
          Now who’s doing the snarky backhandedest of all backhanded compliments ever

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    • giff77
      May 30, 2022 at 7:36 pm
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      eburtthebike wrote:

      Then, about a new cycle route, there was “At a cost of £5m, it hasn’t come cheap.”  Just wait until they find out the cost of a motorway junction.

      — eburtthebike

      30 million per mile according to this article. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-13924687

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    • HoarseMann
      May 30, 2022 at 8:29 pm
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      That smirk sent a shiver down

      That smirk sent a shiver down my spine when Tom said “let’s face it, some cyclists can be dangerous and full of themselves”. Well done Dame Sarah for calmly rebuffing it.

      He might have a point if hundreds of drivers were being killed by cyclists, flaunting them to death with their entitlement.

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      • NOtotheEU
        May 30, 2022 at 8:48 pm
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        HoarseMann wrote:

        flaunting them to death with their entitlement.

        — HoarseMann

        That’s a thing? I can’t wait to cause total carnage on my ride to work tomorrow!

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        • Backladder
          May 30, 2022 at 9:57 pm
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          I think I need to practice

          I think I need to practice that in the mirror a bit more because it isn’t working for me at the moment 😉

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      • brooksby
        May 31, 2022 at 10:41 am
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        HoarseMann wrote:

        That smirk sent a shiver down my spine when Tom said “let’s face it, some cyclists can be dangerous and full of themselves”. Well done Dame Sarah for calmly rebuffing it.

        He might have a point if hundreds of drivers were being killed by cyclists, flaunting them to death with their entitlement.

        — HoarseMann

        I have to admit, the interviewer came across as a bit of an @rse.

        Let’s run a piece about the dangers to cyclists on rural roads, illustrated with an interview with the widow of someone who died through the actions of a speeding motorist and through nothing he could have controlled, but every time we talk to an actual cyclist we’ll smirk (practically a wink to camera) and go on about how cyclists are all entitled, red light jumping, danger-magnets.

        Nothing about how rural roads are bad because so many people using them are locals who feel they’re safe to go a bit faster because they know the roads.

        I think Sarah Storey had been asked not to start a fight, because there were all sorts of ways she could have replied rather than just take a deep breath and not bite on his bait.

        I found the whole programme very frustrating.

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        • HoarseMann
          May 31, 2022 at 11:10 am
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          Yep, it was a cringe fest.

          Yep, it was a cringe fest. The opening gambit from a couple of wobbly riders on borrowed bikes, “how can we accommodate cyclists without destroying nature?”, really set the tone.

          To be fair to Countryfile, they just surfaced views about cyclists that I’m sure many country (and city!) dwellers harbour. Can’t hold them to the same journalistic rigour than, say, Panorama.

          But the bit about rural roads being dangerous because they’re narrow and twisty; if that was the case, then all those narrow and twisty bike paths must be lethal! Best stick to the motorway!

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  11. quiff
    May 30, 2022 at 8:05 pm
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    LiveBlog wrote:

    The driver did got a suspended sentence and during a segue (thanks, hirsute)…

    — LiveBlog

    “Segway” duly corrected, but “did got” seems to have passed unnoticed! 

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    • mdavidford
      May 30, 2022 at 10:10 pm
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      Not unnoticed, but I like to

      Not unnoticed, but I like to leave a few for other people to pick up.

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      • eburtthebike
        May 30, 2022 at 11:09 pm
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        mdavidford wrote:

        Not unnoticed, but I like to leave a few for other people to pick up.

        — mdavidford

        Surely un-noticed?

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        • quiff
          May 31, 2022 at 8:33 am
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          Un-likely

          Un-likely

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Merseyrail to ban all non-folding e-bikes citing safety risks — plus NJ e-bike licensing continues to confound, Lime gets dumped down under + more
Merseyrail to ban all non-folding e-bikes citing safety risks — plus NJ e-bike licensing continues to confound, Lime gets dumped down under + more
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Skarper eBike Drive System
Skarper eBike Drive System
Clean, simple-to-fit motor system for nearly any disc-braked bike
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Genesis adds e-bike model to its classic Croix de Fer gravel range
Genesis adds e-bike model to its classic Croix de Fer gravel range
The Croix de Fer 60 costs £4,499 and features Mahle's 2.6kg XS motor system - this is the first time Genesis has added e-assistance to its classic steel do-anything bike
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Tern unveils new HSD electric cargo bike with updated geometry, automatic shifting and new drive options
Tern unveils new HSD electric cargo bike with updated geometry, automatic shifting and new drive options
Top of the range bike gets the new 3x3 NINE hub gear with automatic shifting
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Volkswagen launches “next generation” high-tech e-bikes… while planning to cut 100,000 jobs
Volkswagen launches “next generation” high-tech e-bikes… while planning to cut 100,000 jobs
Corporate greenwashing, a distraction technique, or just terrible timing? The German car giant Volkswagon's surprise entry into the e-bike market comes with plenty of technology, and some very weird optics…
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E-bikes to get ‘verified’ trust tags to identify they’re safe and legal so “customers can buy with confidence”
E-bikes to get ‘verified’ trust tags to identify they’re safe and legal so “customers can buy with confidence”
The safety marks are supported by several major brands but businesses warn government needs to do more to tackle illegal electric motorbikes
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Liberal Democrat MP Layla Moran has new e-bike stolen “first time she took it to town”… then told there’s no CCTV available despite filming numerous cameras
Liberal Democrat MP Layla Moran has new e-bike stolen “first time she took it to town”… then told there’s no CCTV available despite filming numerous cameras
It's not the first time Thames Valley Police have attracted the ire of cyclists
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Pub bike 2 hours ago

Would he have performed better on his normal bike?

in: “Good for the f*** all training I do on this bike”: Tom Pidcock loses time on “scary” descent but happy with “best TT I’ve ever done” at Tour de France
wtjs 3 hours ago

the National Bus and Rail Union told the Oireachtas (Irish Parliament) the following month, saying the requirements (making the cyclist scum wear helmets and HiViz) would, “make the roads a safer place, as it would make potential hazards easier to spot.” Nothing to do with driver behaviour then? Stagecoach is even putting intimidating threats against cyclists on the side of the buses now! ttps://upride.cc/incident/px60beo_stagecoach41-closepass/

in: “Fewer people cycling or scooting does not make roads safer”: Minister criticised for suggesting Irish Government would consider mandatory hi-vis and helmets for all cyclists
eburtthebike 3 hours ago

.......the government was focused on the “enormity of the e-scooter problem” Just wait until they find out how absolutely effing gigantic the car problem is. The whole thing is just motornormativity at government level, and while Ciarán Cannon talks sense, Seán Canney is fecking eejit.

in: “Fewer people cycling or scooting does not make roads safer”: Minister criticised for suggesting Irish Government would consider mandatory hi-vis and helmets for all cyclists
Rendel Harris 5 hours ago

40% of fatal road incidents (70 deaths p.a.) in Ireland involve excess alcohol. Pass a law mandating compulsory alcohol interlocks for all motor vehicles and see what that does for road safety first.

in: “Fewer people cycling or scooting does not make roads safer”: Minister criticised for suggesting Irish Government would consider mandatory hi-vis and helmets for all cyclists
Rendel Harris 7 hours ago

@mitsky I didn't say it was applicable in this case or that I thought it should be, I was simply answering your question as to whether anyone had ever shot someone and been charged with anything other than murder or attempted murder, to which the answer is yes.

in: Pro boxer Hannah Rapp killed while cycling by road rage driver who deliberately reversed into her, police in Texas say
Rendel Harris 7 hours ago

@perce The new troll, my friend, is solely piss and wind, the new troll is solely piss and wind.

in: Police seize and destroy delivery cyclist’s legal e-bike hired through council-funded scheme after “bogus” test – but officers claim rider didn’t have insurance
Xenophon2 7 hours ago

Very correct price for a basic, no-frills frameset. Older and wiser -after a warranty case on a '100 year' Ti frameset that lasted 5 years before a drive side chain stay weld said sayonara- I'll never again purchase a really high cost Ti frame. If the replacement -3999 Euro at retail but I paid 800, which is what it took for them to +- honour the warranty- fails, I'm done. Firstly because they do fail. Titanium is very finicky where welding conditions are concerned and good luck with that warranty, better read the wording very carefully. Secondly, often the price is justified with 'it's a frame for life'. Errrr....yes, unless you decide you want something different after 5 years, it breaks or technology evolves to a point where your frameset becomes aa anachronism and after 10 years you can start hunting for spares(UDH and disc brakes, anyone?). Third: I'm getting a bit tired reading about these so-called 'magical' properties of Ti. The only magical thing about it is the corrosion resistance. All that absorbing of vibrations etc is mainly function of frame design/geometry. If you want vibration damping: larger tires, lower pressure, done.

in: Gloria All Gravel Titanium SRAM Force
darnac 7 hours ago

True,but I can't count thé number of times I've seen him on TV as an invited expert for comments since

in: Judge signed off on Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard’s nighttime doping tests due to “serious suspicions” before Tour de France, according to reports
MaxiMinimalist 8 hours ago

"...there was enough suspicion to warrant an out-of-hours knock on the door for the Tour’s then-top two." A generic statement that sounds like a cover-your-arse mumbling. Can they be more specific? Nope. Good to see Vaughters join Lefevere to add up some controversy to the very politically correct pro peloton. In the late 1990s and early noughties, when cycling was becoming a global phenomenom, officials, race organisers and team managers turned a blind eye on doping. Nobody wanted to slay the goose with golden eggs.

in: Skoda renames Peak District ‘Peaq District’ and offers free cycle hire to celebrate launch of 2.5 tonne “ultimate SUV”; Vaughters: 2am drug tests would have saved cycling; Mass Tour de France rest day tests; McNulty hit by driver + more on the live blog
mctrials23 8 hours ago

Am I missing something. Pogacar would be firm favourite no matter what you did unless you made it a very flat edition which no one would want. Outside of Pogacar its all up for grabs. You can't build a good multi-week race with Pogacar in the form he is in. Take Pogacar out and this would be fine.

in: This year’s Tour de France route does the race organisers no favours

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3. Skoda renames Peak District ‘Peaq District’ and offers free cycle hire to celebrate launch of 2.5 tonne “ultimate SUV”; Vaughters: 2am drug tests would have saved cycling; Mass Tour de France rest day tests; McNulty hit by driver + more on the live blog

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